When I was touring in the mid 90s I had a MESA Boogie Trem-O-Verb 2x12. In its flight case it was impossible for one person to lift. When I was transporting the amp to our touring van, which used to belong to Ocean Colour Scene, I had to remove it from the flight case to physically get it in my vehicle and put it back in the case before putting it in the van! 😂. Love my QC!
@andrxi.h I am extremely happy with it. I purchased on pre-order before release so was an early adopter. I have ditched all my analogue and other pedals too from my board, apart from a Peterson Mini Strobostomp. I play mainly edge of breakup these days and usually centre around Matchless type voicings. The only valve amp I have now is a low powered Cornford Carrera, which actually gets little use at home. I mainly use IEMs on stage but have 3 Atomic Amplifire CLR FRFRs which I can use when necessary. I tend to create patches for each individual song and work through scenes which have individual BPMs set on delays etc, so no more tapping. I use a Temple Audio board powered by a CIOKS which includes an expression pedal and my Shure wireless. XLRs, TRSs, Powercon connector etc modules on the side of the board. I have USB outs on the board for recharging my wireless stuff too. I have had no issues with the QC and play constantly live, transporting the board in a flightcase. I love the fact that I never need to use a PC. All software updates, downloads, cloud backups, scenes creation etc etc can be actioned from the unit itself. Works for me and sounds great. Live Audio engineers I work with love it. Kind Regards.
I had a similar experience, though my preferred amp was Marshall, then Port City. Now, a bad back and silent stages led me to Fractal (too complicated) and QC (I love it!). Loading in/out is a breeze, and the crowd doesn't complain.
I thought I had everyone on my side, But I went and blew it all sky high, And now, she won’t even spare a passing glance, All just because I, ripped my pants 😂😂😂
Gigged with a Twin for years, have come across and played through a few Voxes and Marshalls. Now a proud 6 year owner of Helix and I don't miss them one bit. Hated sounding different from place to place and sound guy to a sound guy every day and night, hated lugging around a 30 pound pedal board, hated having to play loud just to get into the sweet spot for the right tone, hated not knowing how my tone actually comes across like to the audience, and many more disadvantages that come with real gears. Helix and any highend modelers fix all of them.
I went on a tour in Germany with one of my previous bands... I had a Peaver modeler 1x12 combo, the other guitarist hada tube amp with 4x12 and bass player a big tube amp with 8x10 tower. Both of their amps broke at some point during the tour xD mine survived. That cemented my trust in digital gear. Yes, digital can also break, but tubes are super fragile and both their amps broke just by driving the van over a bump or something.
I like that digital offer some good flexibility in terms of what I can offer to whoever is hearing the guitar, be it myself, an audience, or a producer. I have found that having limitations to what I can do has been invaluable to my creativity. Only having instant access to a chorus or phaser that I set up ahead of time in my Specular Tempus, and only having the cab options I've already set up in my Captor X gives me enough flexibility to always offer something useful, but doesn't allow me to get lost in the options and stay focused on the music. To me digital flexibility is its biggest drawback, and why I'll never go fully digital. At the same time, I hate not being able to have blues, greenbacks, Fanes, and V30s on hand for every situation and not needing a cab, so I'll never go back to fully amplified. To me, the future is digital/analog integration, not all digital.
I've worked in Electronics, A/V, IT, and Telecommunications for about 20 years now. I know Murphy's Law far too well and I don't like to gamble with my tube amps or other precious gear. If one of my Tonex units fail, it can be replaced same-day and I just reload it in seconds and good to go. My tube amps stay at home with security cameras and armed security. The digital stuff is what leaves the house.
Great video My friend just had a tooth pulled lol one thing I was going to talk about maybe you can are old strings with no coatings and different amounts of Metals like Pickup windings guitar cables made different mics made different will never get exact amp or old vintage sounds exact even picks ! Conditions and materials need to made exactly same thanks ! I watched this twice I enjoyed it so much lol
You know what man, I’ve been watching your vids every day for about a week. I was aware of you but I’m not a digital guy so I wasn’t following what you are doing. I’ve gotta say I think you and I are probably quite opposite as people, I’m liberal, atheist amp and band guy. And I could be wrong but I get the impression you are kind of the opposite to those things .(apologies if I have mistaken you) and I really enjoy your content. And think you are a really smart measured reasonable dude. The point I make is that social media says I shouldn’t be a fan. It’s just such nonsense. Thx for all the great content man.
My reason for never going back to tube amps is a number of things. 1. weight 2. lack of tone at the volumes I'm allowed to play at. 3. space restrictions on small stages. 4. I get better tones, and can carry more amps with digital. I'm of the opinion for me my Tonex One can carry 20 amps, but hey I got 20 overdrive pedal at my disposal, so just give me a good clean base tone. It works for me.
I do like being able to point my amp at me and let the rest of the band hear it that way. If you point your amp any other direction you’re only going to encourage your drummer to play louder. Having a drummer that can adjust to the room is priceless. It’s all baked in the cake. Joe Bonamassa said something about understanding guitar tones and how they change when you’re surrounded by a band in a big room.
@dananthony6258 I'm doing the same thing. Like the pushback the amp gives. Using a Kemper Stage to a Boss Katana Artist as an FRFR facing me. Will never go back to tube amps. Still have them but will never gig with them unless its needed..
The difficulty in re-dialing in the exact settings I had spent a lot of time to create on analog gear made me switch to digital. I've never looked back. Not having to deal with so many cables and analog noise is a big plus.
@ I have actually heard that in nashville one side of the street Clubs do not allow AMPS, and the other side of street DO, imagine that? Church's I am not even seeing BASS amps. much anymore, Drummers are last Hold out, they tried at my Church back 20 years ago to use Electronic Drums, but only did it for a short time. I have only heard one drummer who knew how to use those and he actually sounded really Good.
I'd like to see amp-less solutions get away from trying purely to mimic amps, to some small degree. Like, go back to first principles and just try to design the most pleasing sound with a fresh perspective, as much as that is possible considering we're all so steeped in classic amp tones. Currently every new modeller is motivated by, and judged by, how much it sounds like something else. I get it, but I refuse to believe that classic amps are THE perfect sonic phenomenon for all time... surely as tube amps gradually become more and more anachronistic to modern music, if only for mundane practical reasons, expectations and sensibilities will change and the sounds we want to hear from guitars will evolve. It would be nice if companies and consumers just slightly dialled down the obsession with sounding 'realistic'. All sounds are real in their own right, maybe some are better than famous tube amps? I guess first we'd need to stop calling them 'modellers', to reset our brains!
consistency is a big plus for digital options as well. Like you said, you know it will sound the same from show to show. And even from unit to unit. Like, if you take a borrowed/ rented Helix (or whatever) and load your backup file onto it, IT will sound the same as the original as well. You can't say that about amps. Even if it is the same amp (Deluxe Reverb, or whatever your poison is), tube amps will sound a bit different from one to the next.
That guitar sounds so good and it’s so pretty✨ I smiled so big when you mentioned the Taco Bell after show ritual. I constantly worried about a wardrobe malfunction. It couldn’t happen all the time but I tried to wear different clothes for load in. But yeah, I busted many pairs of leggings.
I can’t “push air” in my apartment besides farting, lol. So my little Yamaha THR30ii amp works well for my situation. I don’t think playing through a tube amp with headphones would make much sense either. Thanks for the video 👍🏻
When wives let their husbands do the laundry...the get clothing the color of that guitar. Question: Have you ever considered your videos in stereo, especially with some of the modeler patches that really lend themselves to that format?
Yeah I should probably do that… I’m using a kemper kab in the room so I don’t think about it much because I’m listening in mono, but an extra cable makes it stereo for these videos.
But isnt the risk of ripping your pants much higher if your pants are 50 years old? I think the moral of the story is if you choose to lug an Orange 4x12 wear fresh pants.
Hey man. So you have a modeler for live gigs. But what do you play through at home? Tube amp? Modeler connected to small power amp then to either a guitar cab or FRFR speaker? Or do you only play hooked up to a computer? Also, I know you live in Nashville where every venue has a decent PA, but what would you recommend doing if you play at a crappy place with a PA that’s only going to be used for vocals? Combo amp? Head and 212? Modeler and bring your own PA? Everyone says there’s no better time than now to be a guitarist (at least from a gear perspective), but I feel overwhelmed and have total “analysis paralysis” if you get what I’m throwing down. Thanks in advance for your advice (and for anyone else who chimes in).
Every solution is viable in its own way, every way has benefits and drawbacks. No one can tell you what your goals are or what you connect with, or what products you will create with these tools. That's what you have to determine. I'm an engineer. I'm left brained, analytical, and have worked in tech my whole career. Therefore I can't get enough of digital solutions and the limitless potential and scalability of these products. I enjoy software engineering and therefore I enjoy playing with various software for the intrinsic joy of mastering interfaces. I like the analog gear, but they can only get me so far especially considering that I play many many genres and live stream. Others only do one tone their whole lives or 1 clean and 1 dirty tone. Well they probably should just get a tube amp with as few knobs as possible to make it easier. That being said, you have to do what you connect with and then master and expand on what you have.
You do you, but I will never get rid of my tubes amps… for me the future of amps are Digitally controlled full analog & tube amps, such H&K GrandMeister or Diezel VHX…
How about Companys that make Modeling Amps Design New Modeling Amps with Special Designed FRFR Speakers that sound more Amp like and have a good Variety of Cab Sims And User IR's that you could load into the amp?
Why would you need this? You don't need an FRFR speaker that sounds like a cabinet speaker, you can just turn your modeler's cab sim simulation, plug it into a power amp and plug that into a real cab. It won't be much more expensive.
yeah thats fair i dont like playing with other people so the weight thing just isnt a factor for me, but i get it why haul around a 100lb amp when you can get 99 percent of the tone from a pedal
As someone who's old enough to have had to lug those heavy-ass amps and cabs around before, I'm fully behind using digital. If you get a good unit, the difference is so minute it's indiscernible, and even that small amount of differential is worth the convenience of not having to lug all that heavy kit around 🤣 Don't get me wrong, amps are still cool. But for touring? I can't imagine a scenario where I would personally choose to load and unload all that stuff when I could just go FOH...
In a mix or stage situation? Sure. But recording? You can still hear the difference. Now is that difference worth paying for it, and dealing with the other problems that come with amps? That’s an individual decision.
I've been saying it for a while now: Modelers are better than amps in every way that matters. "But what about the feeeeeel maaaaaan" I don't know what that even means. I never needed this magical "amp feel" thing that you guys are clutching to.
@ToneJunkieTV I started out on the Digitech RP series of multi-effects, then I went hard into full analog pedals and amps for many years, and now I've come full circle with a PC based live rig that uses NAM and mostly free plugins. Playing professional gigs and loving it. I'm sure if I ever get to play a real DC-30 turned up loud in a room, it'll be a special experience. But I've never ever needed to "feel it" to play music.
@seancuomo7762 Whatever that magic is, I have never missed it. The rest of the band doesn't care, and the audience doesn't care, so why should I? I'm here to play music, not bask in the "ampness."
Although of course i do love tube amps.....but traveling with gear with tubes n etc is completely retarded these days especially since small units can provide 99.7 percent of your tone.....and just 3years ago id say it was 95 percent of tonee..in 3 years amps will be obsolete matter of fact you be lucky to be playing through anything other than your phone 🤳🏻 watch and see if im right 💯
I gave up after hearing your ripped pants story for over 12 minutes. Isn't this a guitar channel with a thing about tube amps? Is this a clothing channel? 12 minutes and the story's not even over? That's over 1/2 the video's total length. Call me when you're ready to talk about tube amps. Good luck with the pants.
@@ToneJunkieTV Not on the net but I'll come back and check out your channel another time. You seem like a nice person. But pants for most of the video lol. Maybe that's just not for me. I'll try another of your videos.
there is no replacement for the sustain and feedback from standing in front of a real amp. "i will never go back to amp modelers" 💀 "joyo" tube preamps and class-D power is a nice alternative to carrying around a heavy tube amp ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
The sustain is inherent to whatever amp is being modeled. I have plenty of patches on my QC where my guitar will sustain for days. The preamp and power amp are still being modeled, as is speaker distortion. The only thing you're not getting is the physical air movement.. which get fan, like nobody in your audience cares about that or was feeling it in the first place with tube amps.
Okay. What use does that feedback have in any of modern music? And you can get literally the same thing with a floor monitor speaker with a modeler going into it. lol
Says “Im never going back to tube amps” sitting in front of 100k of tube amps. Hahaha
You got me there! 😂
@ love ya. You do you, and do it well.
In fairness they are “behind him”.
@ well played
Beat me to it.
Plus, let’s not kid ourselves. The sound that all these modelers and profilers are trying to replicate is that of that of tubes.
Thanks for the "You are hearing" graphic. Good addition to these!
You have soo many great tales to tell I’ll let you know the next time I go camping.
When I was touring in the mid 90s I had a MESA Boogie Trem-O-Verb 2x12. In its flight case it was impossible for one person to lift. When I was transporting the amp to our touring van, which used to belong to Ocean Colour Scene, I had to remove it from the flight case to physically get it in my vehicle and put it back in the case before putting it in the van! 😂. Love my QC!
how is the qc treating you, im saving up for one and I'm about 400 dollars short, is it worth it ?
@andrxi.h I am extremely happy with it. I purchased on pre-order before release so was an early adopter. I have ditched all my analogue and other pedals too from my board, apart from a Peterson Mini Strobostomp. I play mainly edge of breakup these days and usually centre around Matchless type voicings. The only valve amp I have now is a low powered Cornford Carrera, which actually gets little use at home. I mainly use IEMs on stage but have 3 Atomic Amplifire CLR FRFRs which I can use when necessary. I tend to create patches for each individual song and work through scenes which have individual BPMs set on delays etc, so no more tapping. I use a Temple Audio board powered by a CIOKS which includes an expression pedal and my Shure wireless. XLRs, TRSs, Powercon connector etc modules on the side of the board. I have USB outs on the board for recharging my wireless stuff too. I have had no issues with the QC and play constantly live, transporting the board in a flightcase. I love the fact that I never need to use a PC. All software updates, downloads, cloud backups, scenes creation etc etc can be actioned from the unit itself. Works for me and sounds great. Live Audio engineers I work with love it. Kind Regards.
I had a similar experience, though my preferred amp was Marshall, then Port City. Now, a bad back and silent stages led me to Fractal (too complicated) and QC (I love it!). Loading in/out is a breeze, and the crowd doesn't complain.
Yep. Tube amps need to address the weight and the sound level issues.
But they are doing that…
I thought I had everyone on my side, But I went and blew it all sky high, And now, she won’t even spare a passing glance, All just because I, ripped my pants 😂😂😂
Gigged with a Twin for years, have come across and played through a few Voxes and Marshalls. Now a proud 6 year owner of Helix and I don't miss them one bit.
Hated sounding different from place to place and sound guy to a sound guy every day and night, hated lugging around a 30 pound pedal board, hated having to play loud just to get into the sweet spot for the right tone, hated not knowing how my tone actually comes across like to the audience, and many more disadvantages that come with real gears.
Helix and any highend modelers fix all of them.
Exactly 💯
I went on a tour in Germany with one of my previous bands...
I had a Peaver modeler 1x12 combo, the other guitarist hada tube amp with 4x12 and bass player a big tube amp with 8x10 tower.
Both of their amps broke at some point during the tour xD mine survived. That cemented my trust in digital gear.
Yes, digital can also break, but tubes are super fragile and both their amps broke just by driving the van over a bump or something.
Did you mean to say you had a Peavey Modeling 1x12 Combo?Was it a Peavey Vypyr maybe the Original Vypyr Combo Amp?
@@jimsimmons2674 Yeah, I forgot the name it was a Vypyr :D
I like that digital offer some good flexibility in terms of what I can offer to whoever is hearing the guitar, be it myself, an audience, or a producer. I have found that having limitations to what I can do has been invaluable to my creativity. Only having instant access to a chorus or phaser that I set up ahead of time in my Specular Tempus, and only having the cab options I've already set up in my Captor X gives me enough flexibility to always offer something useful, but doesn't allow me to get lost in the options and stay focused on the music. To me digital flexibility is its biggest drawback, and why I'll never go fully digital. At the same time, I hate not being able to have blues, greenbacks, Fanes, and V30s on hand for every situation and not needing a cab, so I'll never go back to fully amplified. To me, the future is digital/analog integration, not all digital.
Yeah, I guess that's the beauty of the hybrid approach.
I've worked in Electronics, A/V, IT, and Telecommunications for about 20 years now. I know Murphy's Law far too well and I don't like to gamble with my tube amps or other precious gear. If one of my Tonex units fail, it can be replaced same-day and I just reload it in seconds and good to go. My tube amps stay at home with security cameras and armed security. The digital stuff is what leaves the house.
Next Kemper pack will entirely consist of profiles of solid state amps and other modelers
The new slogan for amp modelers, “You’ll never rip your pants out picking up a modeler!” Wink, wink 😉
Les Paul Signature, man I miss that guitar, had a beauty and it slipped away
Great video
My friend just had a tooth pulled lol one thing I was going to talk about maybe you can are old strings with no coatings and different amounts of
Metals like
Pickup windings guitar cables made different mics made different will never get exact amp or old vintage sounds exact even picks ! Conditions and materials need to made exactly same thanks ! I watched this twice I enjoyed it so much lol
You know what man, I’ve been watching your vids every day for about a week. I was aware of you but I’m not a digital guy so I wasn’t following what you are doing. I’ve gotta say I think you and I are probably quite opposite as people, I’m liberal, atheist amp and band guy. And I could be wrong but I get the impression you are kind of the opposite to those things .(apologies if I have mistaken you) and I really enjoy your content. And think you are a really smart measured reasonable dude. The point I make is that social media says I shouldn’t be a fan. It’s just such nonsense. Thx for all the great content man.
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My reason for never going back to tube amps is a number of things.
1. weight
2. lack of tone at the volumes I'm allowed to play at.
3. space restrictions on small stages.
4. I get better tones, and can carry more amps with digital.
I'm of the opinion for me my Tonex One can carry 20 amps, but hey I got 20 overdrive pedal at my disposal, so just give me a good clean base tone. It works for me.
Well said!
I do like being able to point my amp at me and let the rest of the band hear it that way. If you point your amp any other direction you’re only going to encourage your drummer to play louder. Having a drummer that can adjust to the room is priceless. It’s all baked in the cake. Joe Bonamassa said something about understanding guitar tones and how they change when you’re surrounded by a band in a big room.
@dananthony6258 I'm doing the same thing. Like the pushback the amp gives. Using a Kemper Stage to a Boss Katana Artist as an FRFR facing me. Will never go back to tube amps. Still have them but will never gig with them unless its needed..
@I’m a fan of digital but it’s got to be a really good amp sim product.
SAY HAY TO sooze FOR me!!!!
I love the headstock on that guitar.
The difficulty in re-dialing in the exact settings I had spent a lot of time to create on analog gear made me switch to digital. I've never looked back. Not having to deal with so many cables and analog noise is a big plus.
Gotta respect the click bait game. Amps will be like classic cars, always around and good for enjoying as an enthusiast, less and less practical live.
Yeah coming from a Fellow named HW with a Room surrounded by Amps. I knew it was CLICK Bait!!!!
I only use modelers these days BUT I would never use one live. Tried modelers with a band a few times rehearsing. No thank you.
@ I have actually heard that in nashville one side of the street Clubs do not allow AMPS, and the other side of street DO, imagine that? Church's I am not even seeing BASS amps. much anymore, Drummers are last Hold out, they tried at my Church back 20 years ago to use Electronic Drums, but only did it for a short time. I have only heard one drummer who knew how to use those and he actually sounded really Good.
Ripppp. All good. Now you'll be known as Mr Tone Junk henceforward.
😂
I'd like to see amp-less solutions get away from trying purely to mimic amps, to some small degree. Like, go back to first principles and just try to design the most pleasing sound with a fresh perspective, as much as that is possible considering we're all so steeped in classic amp tones. Currently every new modeller is motivated by, and judged by, how much it sounds like something else. I get it, but I refuse to believe that classic amps are THE perfect sonic phenomenon for all time... surely as tube amps gradually become more and more anachronistic to modern music, if only for mundane practical reasons, expectations and sensibilities will change and the sounds we want to hear from guitars will evolve. It would be nice if companies and consumers just slightly dialled down the obsession with sounding 'realistic'. All sounds are real in their own right, maybe some are better than famous tube amps? I guess first we'd need to stop calling them 'modellers', to reset our brains!
This is exactly how I feel
Absolutely 💯 indeed 😂😂😂😂😂🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
consistency is a big plus for digital options as well. Like you said, you know it will sound the same from show to show. And even from unit to unit. Like, if you take a borrowed/ rented Helix (or whatever) and load your backup file onto it, IT will sound the same as the original as well. You can't say that about amps. Even if it is the same amp (Deluxe Reverb, or whatever your poison is), tube amps will sound a bit different from one to the next.
That guitar sounds so good and it’s so pretty✨ I smiled so big when you mentioned the Taco Bell after show ritual. I constantly worried about a wardrobe malfunction. It couldn’t happen all the time but I tried to wear different clothes for load in. But yeah, I busted many pairs of leggings.
You need to use two 'amps' for your looper set up. So the loop has its own mix, slightly separated. Use an a/b switch.
I can’t “push air” in my apartment besides farting, lol. So my little Yamaha THR30ii amp works well for my situation. I don’t think playing through a tube amp with headphones would make much sense either.
Thanks for the video 👍🏻
😂
So what are you using live? Your Kemper Stage? Are you using an FRFR or just going through the board?
9:48 Spongebob Season 1, Episode 2 moment
That was HW’s best jam so far. 👍🏻
When wives let their husbands do the laundry...the get clothing the color of that guitar.
Question: Have you ever considered your videos in stereo, especially with some of the modeler patches that really lend themselves to that format?
Yeah I should probably do that… I’m using a kemper kab in the room so I don’t think about it much because I’m listening in mono, but an extra cable makes it stereo for these videos.
But isnt the risk of ripping your pants much higher if your pants are 50 years old? I think the moral of the story is if you choose to lug an Orange 4x12 wear fresh pants.
😂 That is a valid point.
Hey man. So you have a modeler for live gigs. But what do you play through at home? Tube amp? Modeler connected to small power amp then to either a guitar cab or FRFR speaker? Or do you only play hooked up to a computer? Also, I know you live in Nashville where every venue has a decent PA, but what would you recommend doing if you play at a crappy place with a PA that’s only going to be used for vocals? Combo amp? Head and 212? Modeler and bring your own PA?
Everyone says there’s no better time than now to be a guitarist (at least from a gear perspective), but I feel overwhelmed and have total “analysis paralysis” if you get what I’m throwing down. Thanks in advance for your advice (and for anyone else who chimes in).
Every solution is viable in its own way, every way has benefits and drawbacks. No one can tell you what your goals are or what you connect with, or what products you will create with these tools. That's what you have to determine. I'm an engineer. I'm left brained, analytical, and have worked in tech my whole career. Therefore I can't get enough of digital solutions and the limitless potential and scalability of these products. I enjoy software engineering and therefore I enjoy playing with various software for the intrinsic joy of mastering interfaces. I like the analog gear, but they can only get me so far especially considering that I play many many genres and live stream. Others only do one tone their whole lives or 1 clean and 1 dirty tone. Well they probably should just get a tube amp with as few knobs as possible to make it easier. That being said, you have to do what you connect with and then master and expand on what you have.
I have been wondering what looper you use for your intro's? You even come out of the intro talking about using a looper as I am writing this🤣
You do you, but I will never get rid of my tubes amps… for me the future of amps are Digitally controlled full analog & tube amps, such H&K GrandMeister or Diezel VHX…
I had a Bogner Shiva. Supertone! Superweight………..
💯💯
How about Companys that make Modeling Amps Design New Modeling Amps with Special Designed FRFR Speakers that sound more Amp like and have a good Variety of Cab Sims And User IR's that you could load into the amp?
Why would you need this? You don't need an FRFR speaker that sounds like a cabinet speaker, you can just turn your modeler's cab sim simulation, plug it into a power amp and plug that into a real cab. It won't be much more expensive.
yeah thats fair
i dont like playing with other people so the weight thing just isnt a factor for me, but i get it
why haul around a 100lb amp when you can get 99 percent of the tone from a pedal
As someone who's old enough to have had to lug those heavy-ass amps and cabs around before, I'm fully behind using digital. If you get a good unit, the difference is so minute it's indiscernible, and even that small amount of differential is worth the convenience of not having to lug all that heavy kit around 🤣 Don't get me wrong, amps are still cool. But for touring? I can't imagine a scenario where I would personally choose to load and unload all that stuff when I could just go FOH...
In a mix or stage situation? Sure. But recording? You can still hear the difference.
Now is that difference worth paying for it, and dealing with the other problems that come with amps?
That’s an individual decision.
4:45 when he starts talking about the video title.
Who even cares? The topic isn't even the point.
@@calebneff5777people who are curious when the topic title starts and would like a time stamp.
I've been saying it for a while now: Modelers are better than amps in every way that matters. "But what about the feeeeeel maaaaaan" I don't know what that even means. I never needed this magical "amp feel" thing that you guys are clutching to.
You said it!
@ToneJunkieTV I started out on the Digitech RP series of multi-effects, then I went hard into full analog pedals and amps for many years, and now I've come full circle with a PC based live rig that uses NAM and mostly free plugins. Playing professional gigs and loving it. I'm sure if I ever get to play a real DC-30 turned up loud in a room, it'll be a special experience. But I've never ever needed to "feel it" to play music.
Really. There is a feel and sound that modelers can’t get. Period. I have both and to a seasoned player they are worlds apart.
@seancuomo7762 Whatever that magic is, I have never missed it. The rest of the band doesn't care, and the audience doesn't care, so why should I? I'm here to play music, not bask in the "ampness."
Is Guitar Friends dead?
No, we had a little hiatus because of some scheduling stuff but it shall return.
@ 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻
Although of course i do love tube amps.....but traveling with gear with tubes n etc is completely retarded these days especially since small units can provide 99.7 percent of your tone.....and just 3years ago id say it was 95 percent of tonee..in 3 years amps will be obsolete matter of fact you be lucky to be playing through anything other than your phone 🤳🏻 watch and see if im right 💯
I’ll never go modeler live. No thanks. Great we have choices.
Everyone's got their preferences!
focus.....man.
I gave up after hearing your ripped pants story for over 12 minutes. Isn't this a guitar channel with a thing about tube amps? Is this a clothing channel? 12 minutes and the story's not even over? That's over 1/2 the video's total length.
Call me when you're ready to talk about tube amps. Good luck with the pants.
sure thing! Leave your phone number in the comments and I'll give you a call.
@@ToneJunkieTV Not on the net but I'll come back and check out your channel another time. You seem like a nice person. But pants for most of the video lol. Maybe that's just not for me. I'll try another of your videos.
@@miamibeachshadowthanks!
love my Helix and Tonex. No desire to go to "real" amps....
there is no replacement for the sustain and feedback from standing in front of a real amp. "i will never go back to amp modelers" 💀 "joyo" tube preamps and class-D power is a nice alternative to carrying around a heavy tube amp ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
The sustain is inherent to whatever amp is being modeled. I have plenty of patches on my QC where my guitar will sustain for days. The preamp and power amp are still being modeled, as is speaker distortion. The only thing you're not getting is the physical air movement.. which get fan, like nobody in your audience cares about that or was feeling it in the first place with tube amps.
I agree. I’ve been using digital since the 90’s. I use to use a Digitech 2101 and I can get sustain for ever and controlled feedback anytime
Okay. What use does that feedback have in any of modern music?
And you can get literally the same thing with a floor monitor speaker with a modeler going into it. lol
@@Eric-dd8bk imagine playing thru a floor monitor 💀
@ that "Digitech 2101" is really nice gg!
What did you finally buy a fractal and a real Les Paul? I just bought a Dual Rectifier to go along with my FM9 and my Gibson Les Pauls. Kemper sucks.
Fractals sound fine, if you’re playing metalz … Same for Rectumfriers …
On an aside, your flag is backwards. Stars on the left. I’m not a flag nazi 😆 and I will never go back to tube amps either.
Well, you’re half-right, then … 😉
@ 😆
Why would you . Modelers sound better
A model sounds better than the thing it's modeling? OK.
They sure don't have the feel like the real thing though.
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