When I was in the car with my parents today we talked about the energy crisis (because that's the kind of smalltalk my family has), and I rounded off the discussion by playing this song
"The city was a marvel of engineering an Eighth Wonder of the world Except for one small, troubling problem It was inhabited by actual human beings". -Disgruntled Civil Planner
That, and the energy crisis... Fusion, when... But that'll spur space exploration, I guarantee it. Easiest place to find deuterium is Venus, after all.
@@Ultrawup the easiest way to fix the worlds energy crisis is to cordon off a piece of the Sahara desert and just place a giant square of solar panels but still that would be supremely expensive and tedious. we could go full nucellar but yea that would take years of convincing people that its safe and working opposite of antagonistic activists and finding a place to put the waste we do make.
@@spacecorpse3212 we already have places we aren't using where we could put the nuclear waste, though in the end the bigger problem is even nuclear energy is finite compared to any form of renewable source
you see, there's only one way to go, but this is less about how do we keep the economy right, and instead, "We are living on a timebomb, everywhere is a timebomb, but, if we spread out across several thousand light years of timebombs, we'll eventually re-colonize the old dead worlds before the places far flung from those worlds die" Like, I'd like to get to a point where a nova that takes out earth can't take out all of our outposts, even if what lives there is human only in the sense that they inherited their knowledge and useless bits of dna from us.
The world's real problems aren't Malthusian, they're moral and social. Colonizing space may solve our material worries, but the real crisis is the one in our hearts.
I'd argue that most of our current problems come from people not having enough room, countries vying for every mile of territory/ natural resources, and social problems with different groups of people not getting along, crowded into cities. Space colonization could help
I agree. The material worries are only there _because_ of us, and what actions humans as a whole have been taking. If we'd just been more considerate of Earth, climate change and over population wouldn't be as much of a crisis--or at least, they would be much less of one. If we went to the moon and beyond, wouldn't we just ruin that eventually, too? Like you were saying. It's human nature to want more, more, more; and if we continue to expand, how much farther could we go--and how much harm could we cause?
@@AnthemAnimation no, a lot of these problems have been around for longer than modern civilization. war and conquest, ethnicities not getting along, competition for resources or territory, those have existed since recorded history, and probably before, when there was a lot more of it to go around per person.
The "real crisis in our hearts" would be a lot easier to solve if people weren't starving to death at a rate of millions per year. It's a lot easier to fix moral and social issues when we no longer have material worries.
It's hilarious that the song lists a ton of problems caused by unrestrained capitalism and suggests that the obvious solution to insatiable greed is to harvest more resources.
Here's the thing. There are over 8 billion of us. I want all of those 8 billion and their descendants to enjoy at least the standard of living I currently enjoy, or preferably a much better standard. Regardless of economic system, that requires resources. That isn't greed, nor is it a capitalistic phenomenon. Certainly, there are a lot efficiencies we could leverage by getting rid of capitalism, but not enough to make the difference. So we are still left with the choice: expand our available resources or accept a shittier existence (or the capitalist option: force most people to live a really shitty existence so that a few people can enjoy insane luxuries).
If we adopted socialism we would have the same problems, I am anti-capitalist but its either we go back or go out, nobody is ever gonna accept going back, but we can go out
@@eggisfun4217 the problem isn't a lack of resources, it's a class of wealthy despots commodifying everything they can get their claws in. We've been moving backwards for generations
When I was in the car with my parents today we talked about the energy crisis (because that's the kind of smalltalk my family has), and I rounded off the discussion by playing this song
An excellent conclusion to such a discussion
So many decades later and this is still relevant 😢
"The city was a marvel of engineering an Eighth Wonder of the world
Except for one small, troubling problem
It was inhabited by actual human beings". -Disgruntled Civil Planner
Douglas Adams?
@@carmensparkles Comment from the designers of Brazil's capital
someone asked me how to fix all the worlds problems I just pointed up at the moon
That, and the energy crisis... Fusion, when...
But that'll spur space exploration, I guarantee it. Easiest place to find deuterium is Venus, after all.
@@Ultrawup the easiest way to fix the worlds energy crisis is to cordon off a piece of the Sahara desert and just place a giant square of solar panels but still that would be supremely expensive and tedious. we could go full nucellar but yea that would take years of convincing people that its safe and working opposite of antagonistic activists and finding a place to put the waste we do make.
@@spacecorpse3212 that might destroy Earth's ecology
@@spacecorpse3212 we already have places we aren't using where we could put the nuclear waste, though in the end the bigger problem is even nuclear energy is finite compared to any form of renewable source
@@willparry530 i never said the nuclear option was permanent or the Sahara dessert idea was a good one
Underrated music.
for teh algorithm because this album slaps ass
you see, there's only one way to go, but this is less about how do we keep the economy right, and instead, "We are living on a timebomb, everywhere is a timebomb, but, if we spread out across several thousand light years of timebombs, we'll eventually re-colonize the old dead worlds before the places far flung from those worlds die" Like, I'd like to get to a point where a nova that takes out earth can't take out all of our outposts, even if what lives there is human only in the sense that they inherited their knowledge and useless bits of dna from us.
Sometimes the only thing you can do is appreciate a really good pun.
The world's real problems aren't Malthusian, they're moral and social. Colonizing space may solve our material worries, but the real crisis is the one in our hearts.
The city was a marvel of engineering an Eighth Wonder of the world
Except for one small, troubling problem
It was inhabited by actual human beings
I'd argue that most of our current problems come from people not having enough room, countries vying for every mile of territory/ natural resources, and social problems with different groups of people not getting along, crowded into cities. Space colonization could help
I agree. The material worries are only there _because_ of us, and what actions humans as a whole have been taking. If we'd just been more considerate of Earth, climate change and over population wouldn't be as much of a crisis--or at least, they would be much less of one. If we went to the moon and beyond, wouldn't we just ruin that eventually, too? Like you were saying. It's human nature to want more, more, more; and if we continue to expand, how much farther could we go--and how much harm could we cause?
@@AnthemAnimation no, a lot of these problems have been around for longer than modern civilization. war and conquest, ethnicities not getting along, competition for resources or territory, those have existed since recorded history, and probably before, when there was a lot more of it to go around per person.
The "real crisis in our hearts" would be a lot easier to solve if people weren't starving to death at a rate of millions per year. It's a lot easier to fix moral and social issues when we no longer have material worries.
It's hilarious that the song lists a ton of problems caused by unrestrained capitalism and suggests that the obvious solution to insatiable greed is to harvest more resources.
The law of conservation of mass is not a capitalist invention.
it’s not like Marxist countries have done it any better, it’s not exclusive to capitalism
Here's the thing. There are over 8 billion of us. I want all of those 8 billion and their descendants to enjoy at least the standard of living I currently enjoy, or preferably a much better standard. Regardless of economic system, that requires resources. That isn't greed, nor is it a capitalistic phenomenon. Certainly, there are a lot efficiencies we could leverage by getting rid of capitalism, but not enough to make the difference. So we are still left with the choice: expand our available resources or accept a shittier existence (or the capitalist option: force most people to live a really shitty existence so that a few people can enjoy insane luxuries).
If we adopted socialism we would have the same problems, I am anti-capitalist but its either we go back or go out, nobody is ever gonna accept going back, but we can go out
@@eggisfun4217 the problem isn't a lack of resources, it's a class of wealthy despots commodifying everything they can get their claws in. We've been moving backwards for generations