Oops, 2 things: Zappa's 2nd house is 8000 ft not 800 and the Whiskey A Go Go was the 1rst concert in LA. But their very first shows were at the Filmore in San Francisco, CA.
Oh no! I did say that! Thanks for pointing that out, sometimes thing like that can slip by. I need to get a second person to review my videos before I put them out so I can catch that before releasing it.
the 800 sqft one is for short stays only. It's where he kept the Toads of the Short Forest, which was in the backyard. The little tree on the edge of the little mountain is named Ethel.
Another fascinating detailed bio video from you. I honestly didn't know much about Frank Zappa going into this, though I was vaguely familiar with him. Thanks for sharing this talented musician's story with us!
If there's someone that is more musically diverse than Zappa please let me know, I don't thank they exist. This was a nice retrospect of him. Keep it up!
Thank you so much, I do try to take my time and get everything right. Unfortunately , when you look up , frank zappa's cabin , that's the house that pops up all over the internet. It's kind of strange how wrong information can spread like wildfire on google. Thank you for watching.
Amazing you didn't mention the guy who showed up to the log cabin unannounced with a gun! Zappa talked the guy into dropping his gun in the "pond" and after told Gail to look for another house. I never had seen photos of the cabin and i grew up in Laurel Canyon, thanks for those pictures. For a great read on what day to day life was like at the Cabin check out, "Freak Out! My Life with Frank Zappa" By Pauline Butcher....And if you hadn't already read "The Frank Zappa Book by the man himself......never mind. haha Oh yeah, The New Moon Unit book is pretty good too!
Hey, thanks for watching. My main prepose is to show where Zappa lived and a tour of other key places throughout LA. I try not to get too bogged down into too many life derails; just enough to accompany the tour.
Yes, the video contains small inaccuracies, but it is not easy to stand up to Zappa fans. We do not forgive beginners. Thanks for the video. Liked and subscribed! Why? Because you didn't ask me to 😁
not a beginner, I've been listening for over 20 years. However I am new to the area and that was my first time there. Thanks for watching, I do appreciate it, even if it came with a little grilling😜
Thank you for acknowledging information from my memoir but one more correction is necessary. There were no parties at the log cabin while Frank Zappa was in residence. Except for the rehearsals every night in the basement by the Mothers and a couple of jam sessions, it was more like a monastery while Frank worked morning till night at his desk or piano, and the rest of us tiptoed round him.
Yeah, I did mention the rehearsals but it ended up on the cutting room floor. I usually talk a lot when I film and end up editing it down not to bore anyone.
Great video but a couple small corrections. He didn't spend his last years touring the world. His last tour was in 1988. He did play a few one off shows after that but not a tour. He spent most of his remaining years at home & working from there. And in her book Moon said he told her he had cancer 1989 which was a surprise to me because in a bio they said he was diagnosed in 1991 which I now know is wrong.
yeah, a lot of sources say so many different things. I'm sure if I did another video just like this today, it would have different info. He did go one a tour after the diagnose of cancer according to the concert achieves. Thanks for watching.
The first 2 pictures of the 'cabin' you showed is actually the guest house which is still there! its just passed the abandoned pools of the left side of the lot, more up on lookout mountain side of the property. a lot of people post those pictures of the cabin but its actually the wrong house! The log cabin was much longer and theres some pictures in franks assistants Pauline's book.
No worries! Awesome video nonetheless, just wanted to clarify that :) heres a link to Franks personal assistants channel where it shows what the house looked like before the fire at the start of this video: th-cam.com/video/kPDPDb0cQ0A/w-d-xo.html @@gregsvlogshow
Actually, you are partly correct in saying those photos are not of the log cabin but of the house next door. The house next door was never a guest house, nor part of the log cabin. Over and over this mistake is repeated in rock videos all over the websites. I would like to post a correct photo of the log cabin, but it's not possible here which will show how wrong those photos are. I lived there with Frank Zappa and nine other people during his stay from May 5th to September 5th 1968 and have written a memoir of the three years I worked for him, 'Freak Out! My Life with Frank Zappa, Laurel Canyon'.
How was Frank able to make money considering he seemed to always keep a large band together? Did his albums sell that many that he was able to live rather well? Under my senior yearbook picture is the usual things then, "Who are the Brain Police? (1967- almost nobody knew what it meant.
Frank was the kind of conductor who took young, aspiring talents under his wing. He was a phenomenon who had a large crowd of fans from the beginning, but he was also apparently a ruthless employer. Remember that the music industry was very different in the 60s and 70s.
They toured a lot and made most of their money that way. He also was not under any garbage contract with the big music industry/engineers. He was pretty self made and did everything himself. He was a good businessman. Yeah, if you know then you know. I'm sure most people didn't know of Zappa in the mid 60s.
@@gregsvlogshow You've omitted one other source of income which was probably the most important which was his publishing of sheet music which he owned completely. He advised Steve Vai to do the same.
What you have as house #1 is actually house #2. His first house was less than a mile away. He lived there until he met Gail. TH-camr MemoryField has house #1 in his video on Zappa and the Laurel Canyon scene in the 60s.
The whole part about his last performance at UCLA is incorrect. Zappa's last public performance in LA county was Oct 10, 1986 at Cal State Northridge. His last tour was 1988 which was east coast and europe.
I wasn't talking about concerts outside of LA, I was only talking about his last LA concert specifically. According to Concert Archives, the info in this vid is correct. Thanks for watching
One more point. When Frank bought the Woodrow Wilson house in 1968 it had only two bedrooms, two bathrooms, living room, study and kitchen. and the 'basement' which was actually the ground floor at the front and ran the full length of the house was Frank's working area. There was a guest house in the garden with a bathroom and a pool house which was used as a crash pad. You are of course talking about the house as it was by the time it was sold.
just for the record, I have to keep videos flowing, getting too involved with every minute detail could get too bogged down for the majority of TH-cam's audience. Thanks for your input.
Another error. THERE WERE NO PARTIES AT THE LOG CABIN WHEN FRANK ZAPPA LIVED THERE. He hated parties, and he hated people coming by after the first few weeks of fun. It was like a monastery.
@@paulinebutcherbird parties don't always mean drugs were involved it could just be a gathering. I think you already said something about that in the past you might want to reread all your comments you left on this video already
@@gregsvlogshow Apologies if I'm repeating myself but I was hoping you might edit this video. Re the gatherings, yes there were jam sessions, about three or four over the four months and when they were over, everyone left. There was no sitting around in groups. Visitors came singly, ie Mick Jagger and Marianne Faithful, Joni Mitchel and David Crosby, Eric Clapton, and others you mention, but in the end, no one came as Frank showed little interest. He did not socialise except toward the end.
@@gregsvlogshow As good as Moon Unit's book is I was dismayed why there was no mention of you in the book. It kind of made me feel what else could I not trust her about her story. Why did she leave you out Pauline?
The picture supposedly of the log cabin, is not the log cabin. I'm not able to post the correct picture here, but that house he shows that burned down is next door and is still there!!!! I am so tired of people doing videos about Frank's house and getting it wrong. I lived there with Frank and nine others during his stay, May 5 - September 5 1968 and a memoir of my experience is published in 'Freak Out! My Life with Frank Zappa 1968-1971 Laurel Canyon''. It gives Frank's daily life not shown in other books, from getting up to going to bed, composing and rehearsing with the Mothers, visiting rock stars, freaks, family squabbles, and more.
@MaritDikkanen lol, yeah, this is youtude not CBS. I'm one guy looking up things online. That cabin is already obscure, having burnt down in the 80s. So I look forward to your perfect Flawless yt videos in the future. You want perfect go find a documentary that has money behind it. Thanks for watching
It's erroneous to say he didn't want treatment. Zappa said himself, in several interviews, that his cancer was beyond treatment, because he was diagnosed too late. This was due to a mistake made by a doctor who should have caught it. He absolutely didn't refuse treatment and choose to die. He refused treatment, because the prognosis was that he would die anyway, and all he could do was try to buy more time. What would his quality of life be after being ravaged by chemo? Cancer treatment is hellish now, can you imagine what it was like in the early 90s? Also, by the eighties, he *hated* touring, and only did it out of necessity. He hated the rehearsal, the difficulty of having to employ musicians (see his experience with Jeff Berlin, or his last tour with the famous 'mutiny' incident). After that final tour, he said he was done, no more. So it's not that he loved touring, but that it was an income stream. Earlier on, he may have felt differently, but he was very vocal about being disgusted and fed up with touring by the 80s.
Yes I'm sure he grew tired of it, took a break and went back to it. Of coerce.🤷 As a musician that has toured, I know all about it. I didn't mean it as he didn't GET treatment. WTF? lol
In Zappa's later life he did several compositions and albums on the Synclavier. The Synclavier is an early digital synthesizer, polyphonic digital sampling system, and music workstation. Zappa liked the Synclavier, because he could write compositions on it that would be difficult for musicans to play, and he did not have to bother with musicians. One of the reasons I remember this, is because I saw demos of the Synclavier at an audio engineering trade show, so later when I heard that Zappa was using the Synclavier I knew about the Synclavier, and what it was capable of doing. The Synclavier that Zappa used, was a later more advanced version of the Synclavier, than the Synclavier demo that I saw.
Oops, 2 things: Zappa's 2nd house is 8000 ft not 800 and the Whiskey A Go Go was the 1rst concert in LA. But their very first shows were at the Filmore in San Francisco, CA.
With 7 bathrooms, I doubt this house is 800 ft sq.
your@@yahwea you're right, 8000 not 800.
Oh no! I did say that! Thanks for pointing that out, sometimes thing like that can slip by. I need to get a second person to review my videos before I put them out so I can catch that before releasing it.
the 800 sqft one is for short stays only. It's where he kept the Toads of the Short Forest, which was in the backyard. The little tree on the edge of the little mountain is named Ethel.
OOPS, It's spelled Fillmore; NOT filmore in San Francisco
Yes without doubt the 20th Century's greatest composer in my opinion.. just class!!
100%. Thanks for watching🎸
And guitar player
Great look at Zappa’s life 😎👍
Thanks
Zappa is king of cool! He was an amazing talent. RIP F. Zappa
he really is.
Another fascinating detailed bio video from you. I honestly didn't know much about Frank Zappa going into this, though I was vaguely familiar with him. Thanks for sharing this talented musician's story with us!
My pleasure!
Great job. 🎉
@@scandalinbohemia thank you .
If there's someone that is more musically diverse than Zappa please let me know, I don't thank they exist. This was a nice retrospect of him. Keep it up!
idk of one😊 Thanks
Brian Jones?
Bowie?
Ween
Really Really interesting to hear about Zappa. He had a recording studio business before 1966.
he was early DIY. Thanks for watching.
Fantastic video. Thank you.
You're welcome. Thanks for watching
Great video
Sir!!! Thank yiu
Thank you, I appreciate that!
I finally got to the end of the video and it's a nice tribute to the man. Thank you.
Thank you so much, I do try to take my time and get everything right. Unfortunately , when you look up , frank zappa's cabin , that's the house that pops up all over the internet. It's kind of strange how wrong information can spread like wildfire on google. Thank you for watching.
@@gregsvlogshow Does TH-cam not allow you to edit the photos once you've posted. I think that's the problem, ie no one can edit their videos.
@@gregsvlogshow Your enthusiasm is infectious throughout the video.
@@paulinebutcherbird Thank you, I love Zappa, his music and lore. I wish I was there like you, that must have been a magical 4 months!
@@gregsvlogshow Thanks. I have described it all in my memoir, listed in comments below. It was magical, bitchy, frightening and changed my life.
Again a very nice video of you. It was very interesting to watch. Many greetings 😀
✌️
Zappa Rules 🎸🎶🎶🎶
100% true!🎸🎹🎼🎵 Thanks for watching!
New to you channel but I love it. Check out my channel Vinny Roth guitar. I have a cool interview with Ike from Frank’s band.
Amazing you didn't mention the guy who showed up to the log cabin unannounced with a gun! Zappa talked the guy into dropping his gun in the "pond" and after told Gail to look for another house. I never had seen photos of the cabin and i grew up in Laurel Canyon, thanks for those pictures. For a great read on what day to day life was like at the Cabin check out, "Freak Out! My Life with Frank Zappa" By Pauline Butcher....And if you hadn't already read "The Frank Zappa Book by the man himself......never mind. haha Oh yeah, The New Moon Unit book is pretty good too!
Hey, thanks for watching. My main prepose is to show where Zappa lived and a tour of other key places throughout LA. I try not to get too bogged down into too many life derails; just enough to accompany the tour.
Yes, the video contains small inaccuracies, but it is not easy to stand up to Zappa fans. We do not forgive beginners. Thanks for the video. Liked and subscribed! Why? Because you didn't ask me to 😁
not a beginner, I've been listening for over 20 years. However I am new to the area and that was my first time there. Thanks for watching, I do appreciate it, even if it came with a little grilling😜
Thank you for acknowledging information from my memoir but one more correction is necessary. There were no parties at the log cabin while Frank Zappa was in residence. Except for the rehearsals every night in the basement by the Mothers and a couple of jam sessions, it was more like a monastery while Frank worked morning till night at his desk or piano, and the rest of us tiptoed round him.
Yeah, I did mention the rehearsals but it ended up on the cutting room floor. I usually talk a lot when I film and end up editing it down not to bore anyone.
Great video but a couple small corrections. He didn't spend his last years touring the world. His last tour was in 1988. He did play a few one off shows after that but not a tour. He spent most of his remaining years at home & working from there. And in her book Moon said he told her he had cancer 1989 which was a surprise to me because in a bio they said he was diagnosed in 1991 which I now know is wrong.
yeah, a lot of sources say so many different things. I'm sure if I did another video just like this today, it would have different info. He did go one a tour after the diagnose of cancer according to the concert achieves. Thanks for watching.
The first 2 pictures of the 'cabin' you showed is actually the guest house which is still there! its just passed the abandoned pools of the left side of the lot, more up on lookout mountain side of the property. a lot of people post those pictures of the cabin but its actually the wrong house! The log cabin was much longer and theres some pictures in franks assistants Pauline's book.
It's what google gives people, sorry for that. I try my hardest to get the proper info. I think overall the info is correct. Thanks for watching
No worries! Awesome video nonetheless, just wanted to clarify that :) heres a link to Franks personal assistants channel where it shows what the house looked like before the fire at the start of this video: th-cam.com/video/kPDPDb0cQ0A/w-d-xo.html
@@gregsvlogshow
@@Cpen5311 cool, i'll check it out.
Actually, you are partly correct in saying those photos are not of the log cabin but of the house next door. The house next door was never a guest house, nor part of the log cabin. Over and over this mistake is repeated in rock videos all over the websites. I would like to post a correct photo of the log cabin, but it's not possible here which will show how wrong those photos are. I lived there with Frank Zappa and nine other people during his stay from May 5th to September 5th 1968 and have written a memoir of the three years I worked for him, 'Freak Out! My Life with Frank Zappa, Laurel Canyon'.
@@Cpen5311 Thank you, Cpen5311 for mentioning my posts. I wrote my rather cross response to the video before I saw yours. Nice to meet you here.
How was Frank able to make money considering he seemed to always keep a large band together? Did his albums sell that many that he was able to live rather well? Under my senior yearbook picture is the usual things then, "Who are the Brain Police? (1967- almost nobody knew what it meant.
Frank was the kind of conductor who took young, aspiring talents under his wing. He was a phenomenon who had a large crowd of fans from the beginning, but he was also apparently a ruthless employer. Remember that the music industry was very different in the 60s and 70s.
They toured a lot and made most of their money that way. He also was not under any garbage contract with the big music industry/engineers. He was pretty self made and did everything himself. He was a good businessman.
Yeah, if you know then you know. I'm sure most people didn't know of Zappa in the mid 60s.
@@gregsvlogshow You've omitted one other source of income which was probably the most important which was his publishing of sheet music which he owned completely. He advised Steve Vai to do the same.
What you have as house #1 is actually house #2. His first house was less than a mile away. He lived there until he met Gail. TH-camr MemoryField has house #1 in his video on Zappa and the Laurel Canyon scene in the 60s.
@augustusbetucius2931 oh really? okay thank you. I'll check it out at some point.
@@gregsvlogshow I think there were at least 2 FZ residences in Laurel Canyon before the Tom Mix cabin on Laurel and Lookout Mt.
Dweezil ripped my flesh!! I dig weird too... whattaya think about Thing Fish? Haha! Cheers, man!
Alice Cooper played at the first house. “Pretties for You” days.
that's awesome.
The whole part about his last performance at UCLA is incorrect. Zappa's last public performance in LA county was Oct 10, 1986 at Cal State Northridge. His last tour was 1988 which was east coast and europe.
I wasn't talking about concerts outside of LA, I was only talking about his last LA concert specifically. According to Concert Archives, the info in this vid is correct. Thanks for watching
One more point. When Frank bought the Woodrow Wilson house in 1968 it had only two bedrooms, two bathrooms, living room, study and kitchen. and the 'basement' which was actually the ground floor at the front and ran the full length of the house was Frank's working area. There was a guest house in the garden with a bathroom and a pool house which was used as a crash pad. You are of course talking about the house as it was by the time it was sold.
ok
just for the record, I have to keep videos flowing, getting too involved with every minute detail could get too bogged down for the majority of TH-cam's audience. Thanks for your input.
@@gregsvlogshow Understand. Would you like me to take my comment off?
The landmark was bought by Gaga's blind Trust for thi reason.
good to know. thanks
800 sq ft-"ok family, when I say move, everybody move to your left."-FZ
yo, read the notes in the comments.
btw, there was only 3 of them. lol zappa, wife and baby. it was a small house when he moved in and they added to it over time.
Another error. THERE WERE NO PARTIES AT THE LOG CABIN WHEN FRANK ZAPPA LIVED THERE. He hated parties, and he hated people coming by after the first few weeks of fun. It was like a monastery.
@@paulinebutcherbird parties don't always mean drugs were involved it could just be a gathering. I think you already said something about that in the past you might want to reread all your comments you left on this video already
@@gregsvlogshow Apologies if I'm repeating myself but I was hoping you might edit this video. Re the gatherings, yes there were jam sessions, about three or four over the four months and when they were over, everyone left. There was no sitting around in groups. Visitors came singly, ie Mick Jagger and Marianne Faithful, Joni Mitchel and David Crosby, Eric Clapton, and others you mention, but in the end, no one came as Frank showed little interest. He did not socialise except toward the end.
@@gregsvlogshow As good as Moon Unit's book is I was dismayed why there was no mention of you in the book. It kind of made me feel what else could I not trust her about her story. Why did she leave you out Pauline?
where Frank Zappa lived with the rest is the main reason that that area is now off limits to everyone but The Wealthy 💰
Probably
@@gregsvlogshow do you live in Los Angeles? if so, try to buy or rent something in Laurel Canyon. 💰💰💰
The picture supposedly of the log cabin, is not the log cabin. I'm not able to post the correct picture here, but that house he shows that burned down is next door and is still there!!!! I am so tired of people doing videos about Frank's house and getting it wrong. I lived there with Frank and nine others during his stay, May 5 - September 5 1968 and a memoir of my experience is published in 'Freak Out! My Life with Frank Zappa 1968-1971 Laurel Canyon''. It gives Frank's daily life not shown in other books, from getting up to going to bed, composing and rehearsing with the Mothers, visiting rock stars, freaks, family squabbles, and more.
I may have gotten a photo or two wrong , but that is where frank zappa property was. My main point of that part was the show the property he lived on.
Keep in mind that I'm 1 person. And I don't have a team of fact-checkers.
wrong pics of the log cabin, amateurish.
@MaritDikkanen lol, yeah, this is youtude not CBS. I'm one guy looking up things online. That cabin is already obscure, having burnt down in the 80s. So I look forward to your perfect Flawless yt videos in the future. You want perfect go find a documentary that has money behind it. Thanks for watching
Zappa smoked like a fiend so any house he lived in, would’ve smelled horribly of cigarette smoke.
lol
Lou Ayres is pronounced Lou AIRS.
Oh no it's not I'm always right and it's pronounced Lou Ayres. How do I know this you asked? because I'm always right.🤪
It's erroneous to say he didn't want treatment. Zappa said himself, in several interviews, that his cancer was beyond treatment, because he was diagnosed too late. This was due to a mistake made by a doctor who should have caught it. He absolutely didn't refuse treatment and choose to die. He refused treatment, because the prognosis was that he would die anyway, and all he could do was try to buy more time. What would his quality of life be after being ravaged by chemo? Cancer treatment is hellish now, can you imagine what it was like in the early 90s? Also, by the eighties, he *hated* touring, and only did it out of necessity. He hated the rehearsal, the difficulty of having to employ musicians (see his experience with Jeff Berlin, or his last tour with the famous 'mutiny' incident). After that final tour, he said he was done, no more. So it's not that he loved touring, but that it was an income stream. Earlier on, he may have felt differently, but he was very vocal about being disgusted and fed up with touring by the 80s.
Yes I'm sure he grew tired of it, took a break and went back to it. Of coerce.🤷 As a musician that has toured, I know all about it. I didn't mean it as he didn't GET treatment. WTF? lol
In Zappa's later life he did several compositions and albums on the Synclavier. The Synclavier is an early digital synthesizer, polyphonic digital sampling system, and music workstation. Zappa liked the Synclavier, because he could write compositions on it that would be difficult for musicans to play, and he did not have to bother with musicians. One of the reasons I remember this, is because I saw demos of the Synclavier at an audio engineering trade show, so later when I heard that Zappa was using the Synclavier I knew about the Synclavier, and what it was capable of doing. The Synclavier that Zappa used, was a later more advanced version of the Synclavier, than the Synclavier demo that I saw.