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That was thought. Hopefully the society and people can be better prepared next time. The storms, floods and other climate disasters will be more frequent and severe onwards
It's a shame you couldn't afford a generator here in Connecticut where I live. They're pretty well standard equipment if you own a home because we lose power a lot during winter storms and sometimes the weak Hurricanes that come up here. I've lost power for 8 days. Back from hurricane sandy and again in the hurricane that hit us in twenty seventeen, and then i've lost it for anywhere from a few hours to 3 or four days, probably on average, once a month for the last ten or fifteen years that we've lived up here so they're basically necessary and for the record.I live within sixty miles of manhattan or new york city.If you prefer
What no grill...lived over a decade in Bell County. Only worry about lack of power was well water, maybe. Had a fireplace, no issue smoking up the meat in the freezer.
Sam, the wind in Texas between Port Lavaca and Rockport along the coast near Highway 35, The wind is so strong, dogs only grow hair on their downwind side
It's even better than pure market forces, because the Texas Legislature subsidizes fossil fuels. But renewables+batteries makes so much economic sense that investors are still choosing them over fossil fuels.
Just adding. Batteries for power storage are part of the Solar Tax Credits here in the USA. Any American seeing this should not hesitate to get a LifeP04 or those packaged Power Stations made by Ecoflow, Jackery, Bluetti or whoever is cheaper, and put the receipts on your tax returns. Win win considering how cheap they are now.
I'm fascinated by what this increased energy resilience at both individual/state and country level is going to do for local, national and international politics. It seems to me that so much of our world is held together by shared reliance on energy systems. What happens when societies can just go their own way and not have to worry about importing energy? Return of the Greek city states?
The largest impact will be the defunding of oil producing nations. Russia, the Middle Eastern countries. The end of oil wars. The next big impact will be huge health improvements for those who suffer from ailments caused by air pollution. The US spends about $820 billion per year on fossil fuel caused problems. And then there's the great boost for low wealth countries who now spend large amounts of their funds to import fuel. They will have more money to build their countries.
We need some of these batteries here in the United Kingdom!! The problem is that the government is too stupid to invest in them. We also need more different electric vehicles over here in the Small Country!!
Home batteties will solve this problem. You don't need a grid with home batteries. It's the cheapest solution. Wind turbines cannot be put where the energy is being consumed.
There are pint-sized wind power machines, a mini power plants. You have them so small that you can put them on roofs either on flat roofs or on the roof ock as a horizontal wind plant. Do some Google searches and searches here on TH-cam for small rooftop wind and you will find more information than I can write in this moment. I hope you find more goodies.
Grid scale batteries and solar are WAY WAY cheaper to install due to economies of scale, but energy companies price gouge customers to increase profits... So home batteries and solar are the best option if you want to be independent of the system and not get price gouged down the road.
@@BlindedByLogicAgreed California's PG&E killed affordable solar in California by lowering the rates they pay homeowners for excess solar. So, solar with battery storage is essential for homeowners to prevent them from being ripped off by the greedy electric utility companies.
Hopefully these large installs are managed within the grid. Big producers and consumers (since these are both) can wreak havoc on a grid if one or three decide to go offline for upgrades without coordination. Texas tends to not like that 'group managed' concept.
Can someone explain to me why Australia is still cannot meet baseload energy requirements with renewables, when we could easily build massive battery farms to offset peak load conditions?
I assume part of the answer to your question is that it takes time to build out the required solar+battery power stations. It has been only 7 years since the first Tesla megapack was installed in Australia.
Mate in W.A. two big battery farms are still being built out. Its takes time and battery production can't keep up with the growth required. The Kwinana and Muja power stations sites are being used. They already have expansion plans for both. Telsa's software is considered the best and Tesla is also building a another Mega Pack factory in China and have more factories planned. Can't just click your fingers.
a) NIMBYism and ill-informed opposition to various components of renewables energy systems? Those two issues are causing delays to a significant queue of projects in the pipe line. b) Battery infrastructure, which obviously is an integral system component of complete renewable energy systems, is coming from way way behind and trying to play catch up to already installed wind and solar generation infrastructure scale. c) Some batteries take a very long time to build and bring online than other types. For example Snowy Hydro 2.0, pumped hydro project.
Tesla cannot come close to meeting grid-scale battery demand - it’s all about unleashing manufacturing capacity - which they are masters at - the future looks good
Love your presentations and info . . but . . IMO it is best not to use percentages as they can be very misleading. Use real numbers whenever possible. Better for everyone.
Why not put these batteries below grade or underground. As for the solar panels, why not elevate them so that the land beneath become great for certain crops. Also, why not install mechanism to protect the panels against excessive wind such as a hurricane such as with some well placed removable baffles.
More net zero homes that can heat and cool themselves without expensive AC systems is also needed in Texas. More solar with battery storage also is needed for more apartments and condominiums in Texas.
This is why I find using percent is very misleading, if I have one battery in my workshop and then by 25 more for new tools I have bought over time, I then increased my battery stock by 2500%, sounds such a huge number now, rather than 25 items. I have well over 100 batteries these days as I use rechargeables for everything in my Home as well as for my Grand Children's toys and equipment. Using titles like Skyrocket is a little fan boyish but it does sound a lot better than saying, Texas bought 25 new batteries to expand their current amount of one ;). I am sure they had more than one, but it wouldn't have been hundreds and now tens of thousands. It's also why Politicians use percent of increase rather than the actual percent rise. If an item costing ten cents is raised by one cent, it doesn't sound like much, but say an item was increased by ten percent, that sounds way more and gets a better result. I used to have to tell my Father that the pay rise they just spent six weeks on strike for was only $1.56 and not the great 6% they just lost almost $200 in wages fighting for, that was an example and not the exact amounts as it was so silly at the time, to go on strike for an amount they will never recover in lost wages. When I was 16, I was earning $18 a week working for Russel Smith Holden in Cleveland as a Salesclerk, had they not sacked me just before I turned 17, I would have received a huge pay rise of 300% or $36 and back then that was a huge increase for me, but would have been a 36% increase for my Father and a 16% increase for one of my Brothers and so on, this means that percentages are far more misleading then they are useful.
People should look at ERCOT hour by hour prices and see how high the cost of electricity can soar when peakers are brought online. Not only do peakers require high prices, all other suppliers during that pricing period get the same high price due to the way prices are set.
Texas is a bit like Australia in that for the longest time fossil interests counted on and made-happen power deficits during peak periods in order to goose wholesale electricity pricing. Aided and abetted by the state government. Wind was able to squeeze in despite that, but batteries had a hard time up until the Great Texas Freeze almost took down their entire grid. So in almost exactly the same way, it took some serious grid failures to loosen the quid-pro-quo between the government and the fossil industry and give battery storage the foot-hold it needed. Some bright investors realized they could install grid-scale battery storage to take advantage of the pricing differentials. The result is, true to Texas form, a great deal of momentum and probable over-building of energy storage in the state. Pricing differentials between off-peak and on-peak (wholesale) rates have already moderated significantly and will probably moderate further. And just like in Australia, the highly-distributed nature of having many smaller "generators" on grid instead of a fewer number of larger generators means that it is much more difficult to game the system by intentionally turning off generation. All that happens is that wholesale prices go up slightly (instead of a lot), and other generation takes the place of the one that went off-line more or less instantly. -Matt
According to the Center for Research on Energy and Clean Air, the economic and health costs of air pollution due to fossil fuels cost the U.S. $820 billion per year. We now have technology to let us get off fossil fuels and save those hundreds of billions of dollars. Plus we get cheaper electricity and cheaper transportation.
Yes, it was a winter / ice storm about 1,000 miles wide. It froze natural gas, nuclear, coal, and wind turbines. Since a storm like this only happens once per 120 years, most of the wind turbines were not winterized (which costs $60,000 extra per wind turbine and last about 10 to 12 years... so there was an 11/12 chance the winterizing wouldn't matter). Likewise, natural gas pressure dropped because the tanks weren't insulated (which costs money and *must* be removed every summer). Likewise one of the nuclear cooling intakes froze. Likewise, the ice froze the open air piles of coal into solid blocks. The trade off was years of electricity at 11 c/kwH and now it's 13c/kwH (or higher) with all the extra precautions. We lost about 280 people including children. It's going to cost the public about $240 per year for the extra power security. Every year from now on. It's difficult call. That's about 2.4 billion dollars higher cost of living. That's about $8,571,428 dollars per life saved.
I have seen research that says batteries cannot respond to peak demand like a generator. Some countries are installing electric motors to drive generators to provide the inertia you get from a generator.
wtf are you reading? Batteries are more than up to the job. "installing electric motors to drive generators to provide the inertia you get from a generator." do you actually understand what you just said? Tip, its not 1930 anymore.
@andyfreeze4072 I am an engineer & I understand the concepts discussed. I have no reason to doubt what I have seen on other videos. Just imagine a system based on the climate, solar & wind, when the future of the climate is unknown. China has built big on hydro, but the water has gone? This is not Bitcoin we are talking about here. Battery manufacture needs to be de-carbonised.
Nice to see all the battery backup. Too bad the first ice storm will make them mostly irrelevant. It's always an ice storm that does all this infrastructure in.
Texas has the best land area for renewables in the entire country, also has the best regulations for business. This does not surprise me. Texas is doing what makes sense in Connecticut, but we don't get enough Sun and we don't have a lot of wind so it doesn't make sense for us to use renewables up here. At least not yet, maybe, if the solar panels get better, but not today and for what it's worth, I am an athletical engineer and I have made solar panels as a college class so I have a better than average understanding of the technology, Connecticut is just not very good. It's too cloudy, that's why nuclear makes more sense up here. Power lines from the Midwest war offshore bend in the Northeast. The problem is that kills a lot of birds so you know, and apparently it's a threat to whales from some of the environmentalist groups in the area is that's what they were saying, so it's not an easy decision, but again, texans don't really care so. They'll just do what works, it's a great story. It's great for texas.And maybe they'll make the technology cheaper by the volume that they're doing to make it viable in the rest of the country
Texas doesn't have too many public parks so forget about sitting under trees and this is a better alternative to coal power plants that make living near them a health hazard
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I lived through that storm. I had no power for 7 days, and didn't eat anything for 4 days. Brutal.
That was thought. Hopefully the society and people can be better prepared next time. The storms, floods and other climate disasters will be more frequent and severe onwards
In Louisiana my electricity was blinking on and off but I had a huge amount of firewood from a magnolia tree the hurricanes had knocked down.
It's a shame you couldn't afford a generator here in Connecticut where I live. They're pretty well standard equipment if you own a home because we lose power a lot during winter storms and sometimes the weak Hurricanes that come up here. I've lost power for 8 days. Back from hurricane sandy and again in the hurricane that hit us in twenty seventeen, and then i've lost it for anywhere from a few hours to 3 or four days, probably on average, once a month for the last ten or fifteen years that we've lived up here so they're basically necessary and for the record.I live within sixty miles of manhattan or new york city.If you prefer
What no grill...lived over a decade in Bell County. Only worry about lack of power was well water, maybe. Had a fireplace, no issue smoking up the meat in the freezer.
And the CEO of centerpoint energy gets $7M for his incompetence and desire to keep raising electricity rates.
Sam, the wind in Texas between Port Lavaca and Rockport along the coast near Highway 35,
The wind is so strong, dogs only grow hair on their downwind side
Good one!
Ted will arrange for all the Texans to go to Cancun for the next power outage.
LOL is he brave enough to do that?
Thanks for the positive news feed. Texas installing the most batteries in the US. Thats pure market forces.
Glad you enjoyed it!
It's even better than pure market forces, because the Texas Legislature subsidizes fossil fuels. But renewables+batteries makes so much economic sense that investors are still choosing them over fossil fuels.
@@krakken- Apparently God loves Oil, But the rest of us are into progress and long term energy independence.
Happy Bday, Sam. What better way to celebrate it than for Ford's CEO to admit he drives a Xiaomi EV? Hope to see you report on it soon m8.
Financial investment sense yes. But also consider the massive potential for vast reductions in the price of electricity.
Just adding. Batteries for power storage are part of the Solar Tax Credits here in the USA. Any American seeing this should not hesitate to get a LifeP04 or those packaged Power Stations made by Ecoflow, Jackery, Bluetti or whoever is cheaper, and put the receipts on your tax returns. Win win considering how cheap they are now.
Wait really?? THANK YOU for sharing this news, been eyeing an Ecoflow for a while now
The reason there is so much wind reliability in Texas is all the politicians who are full of wind.
Nope. It's the beans.
Electricity may become so cheap, people will want to retrofit their boats and trucks and ships. Add solar and they can charge themselves.
thats my plan!
I doubu Calufornia is standing still.
I'm fascinated by what this increased energy resilience at both individual/state and country level is going to do for local, national and international politics. It seems to me that so much of our world is held together by shared reliance on energy systems. What happens when societies can just go their own way and not have to worry about importing energy? Return of the Greek city states?
The largest impact will be the defunding of oil producing nations. Russia, the Middle Eastern countries. The end of oil wars. The next big impact will be huge health improvements for those who suffer from ailments caused by air pollution. The US spends about $820 billion per year on fossil fuel caused problems. And then there's the great boost for low wealth countries who now spend large amounts of their funds to import fuel. They will have more money to build their countries.
if battery fields become very large
then they could build solar cells on roof above batteries
I haven't seen anyone doing that yet, but it seems to make sense. Batteries would be cooler if they lived in the shade.
We need some of these batteries here in the United Kingdom!! The problem is that the government is too stupid to invest in them. We also need more different electric vehicles over here in the Small Country!!
Home batteties will solve this problem. You don't need a grid with home batteries. It's the cheapest solution. Wind turbines cannot be put where the energy is being consumed.
There are pint-sized wind power machines, a mini power plants. You have them so small that you can put them on roofs either on flat roofs or on the roof ock as a horizontal wind plant. Do some Google searches and searches here on TH-cam for small rooftop wind and you will find more information than I can write in this moment. I hope you find more goodies.
Neil, agreed! Now we need someone to manufacture an affordable, 50 kWh, home storage battery!
Grid scale batteries and solar are WAY WAY cheaper to install due to economies of scale, but energy companies price gouge customers to increase profits... So home batteries and solar are the best option if you want to be independent of the system and not get price gouged down the road.
We are far from affordable battery home storage in Texas. It is a luxury now.
Part of the problem is high installation costs and permit delays.
@@BlindedByLogicAgreed California's PG&E killed affordable solar in California by lowering the rates they pay homeowners for excess solar. So, solar with battery storage is essential for homeowners to prevent them from being ripped off by the greedy electric utility companies.
What we need is a large loft in our homes to accommodate batteries to power the house and charge the car and do all the things we need to do.
Take a look at the Tesla Powerwall. It's not that large. It can be installed inside or outside.
Hopefully these large installs are managed within the grid. Big producers and consumers (since these are both) can wreak havoc on a grid if one or three decide to go offline for upgrades without coordination. Texas tends to not like that 'group managed' concept.
Saves lives !
Can someone explain to me why Australia is still cannot meet baseload energy requirements with renewables, when we could easily build massive battery farms to offset peak load conditions?
I assume part of the answer to your question is that it takes time to build out the required solar+battery power stations. It has been only 7 years since the first Tesla megapack was installed in Australia.
Mate in W.A. two big battery farms are still being built out. Its takes time and battery production can't keep up with the growth required. The Kwinana and Muja power stations sites are being used. They already have expansion plans for both. Telsa's software is considered the best and Tesla is also building a another Mega Pack factory in China and have more factories planned. Can't just click your fingers.
a) NIMBYism and ill-informed opposition to various components of renewables energy systems? Those two issues are causing delays to a significant queue of projects in the pipe line.
b) Battery infrastructure, which obviously is an integral system component of complete renewable energy systems, is coming from way way behind and trying to play catch up to already installed wind and solar generation infrastructure scale.
c) Some batteries take a very long time to build and bring online than other types. For example Snowy Hydro 2.0, pumped hydro project.
Tesla cannot come close to meeting grid-scale battery demand - it’s all about unleashing manufacturing capacity - which they are masters at - the future looks good
In Louisiana my electricity was blinking on and off but I had huge amounts of firewood from a magnolia tree the hurricanes had knocked down.
When we switch to electric vehicles charging on a smart grid, there will be little need for large scale energy storage.
Love your presentations and info . . but . . IMO it is best not to use percentages as they can
be very misleading. Use real numbers whenever possible. Better for everyone.
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Why not put these batteries below grade or underground. As for the solar panels, why not elevate them so that the land beneath become great for certain crops. Also, why not install mechanism to protect the panels against excessive wind such as a hurricane such as with some well placed removable baffles.
2500% growth isn’t a lot. Starting number was minimal.
More net zero homes that can heat and cool themselves without expensive AC systems is also needed in Texas. More solar with battery storage also is needed for more apartments and condominiums in Texas.
With freezing temperatures do the batteries have a way to heat themselves up?
This is why I find using percent is very misleading, if I have one battery in my workshop and then by 25 more for new tools I have bought over time, I then increased my battery stock by 2500%, sounds such a huge number now, rather than 25 items.
I have well over 100 batteries these days as I use rechargeables for everything in my Home as well as for my Grand Children's toys and equipment.
Using titles like Skyrocket is a little fan boyish but it does sound a lot better than saying, Texas bought 25 new batteries to expand their current amount of one ;).
I am sure they had more than one, but it wouldn't have been hundreds and now tens of thousands.
It's also why Politicians use percent of increase rather than the actual percent rise.
If an item costing ten cents is raised by one cent, it doesn't sound like much, but say an item was increased by ten percent, that sounds way more and gets a better result.
I used to have to tell my Father that the pay rise they just spent six weeks on strike for was only $1.56 and not the great 6% they just lost almost $200 in wages fighting for, that was an example and not the exact amounts as it was so silly at the time, to go on strike for an amount they will never recover in lost wages.
When I was 16, I was earning $18 a week working for Russel Smith Holden in Cleveland as a Salesclerk, had they not sacked me just before I turned 17, I would have received a huge pay rise of 300% or $36 and back then that was a huge increase for me, but would have been a 36% increase for my Father and a 16% increase for one of my Brothers and so on, this means that percentages are far more misleading then they are useful.
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When they finish off the peaker plants, or just before, the peak electricity prices will drop so profits will be down but mission accomplished
People should look at ERCOT hour by hour prices and see how high the cost of electricity can soar when peakers are brought online. Not only do peakers require high prices, all other suppliers during that pricing period get the same high price due to the way prices are set.
Texas is a bit like Australia in that for the longest time fossil interests counted on and made-happen power deficits during peak periods in order to goose wholesale electricity pricing. Aided and abetted by the state government. Wind was able to squeeze in despite that, but batteries had a hard time up until the Great Texas Freeze almost took down their entire grid.
So in almost exactly the same way, it took some serious grid failures to loosen the quid-pro-quo between the government and the fossil industry and give battery storage the foot-hold it needed. Some bright investors realized they could install grid-scale battery storage to take advantage of the pricing differentials.
The result is, true to Texas form, a great deal of momentum and probable over-building of energy storage in the state. Pricing differentials between off-peak and on-peak (wholesale) rates have already moderated significantly and will probably moderate further.
And just like in Australia, the highly-distributed nature of having many smaller "generators" on grid instead of a fewer number of larger generators means that it is much more difficult to game the system by intentionally turning off generation. All that happens is that wholesale prices go up slightly (instead of a lot), and other generation takes the place of the one that went off-line more or less instantly.
-Matt
According to the Center for Research on Energy and Clean Air, the economic and health costs of air pollution due to fossil fuels cost the U.S. $820 billion per year. We now have technology to let us get off fossil fuels and save those hundreds of billions of dollars.
Plus we get cheaper electricity and cheaper transportation.
Really? That is paltry. Why don't you find out what the likes of VATL are doing.
Yes, it was a winter / ice storm about 1,000 miles wide. It froze natural gas, nuclear, coal, and wind turbines. Since a storm like this only happens once per 120 years, most of the wind turbines were not winterized (which costs $60,000 extra per wind turbine and last about 10 to 12 years... so there was an 11/12 chance the winterizing wouldn't matter).
Likewise, natural gas pressure dropped because the tanks weren't insulated (which costs money and *must* be removed every summer).
Likewise one of the nuclear cooling intakes froze.
Likewise, the ice froze the open air piles of coal into solid blocks.
The trade off was years of electricity at 11 c/kwH and now it's 13c/kwH (or higher) with all the extra precautions.
We lost about 280 people including children. It's going to cost the public about $240 per year for the extra power security. Every year from now on. It's difficult call. That's about 2.4 billion dollars higher cost of living. That's about $8,571,428 dollars per life saved.
2:54 why is this “exciting”? The governor blames renewables for the grid collapse. Yes he’s wrong. He’s a moron. But that’s what he does.
I have seen research that says batteries cannot respond to peak demand like a generator. Some countries are installing electric motors to drive generators to provide the inertia you get from a generator.
wtf are you reading? Batteries are more than up to the job. "installing electric motors to drive generators to provide the inertia you get from a generator." do you actually understand what you just said? Tip, its not 1930 anymore.
@andyfreeze4072 I am an engineer & I understand the concepts discussed. I have no reason to doubt what I have seen on other videos. Just imagine a system based on the climate, solar & wind, when the future of the climate is unknown. China has built big on hydro, but the water has gone? This is not Bitcoin we are talking about here. Battery manufacture needs to be de-carbonised.
Bollocks
Nice to see all the battery backup. Too bad the first ice storm will make them mostly irrelevant. It's always an ice storm that does all this infrastructure in.
Texas has the best land area for renewables in the entire country, also has the best regulations for business. This does not surprise me. Texas is doing what makes sense in Connecticut, but we don't get enough Sun and we don't have a lot of wind so it doesn't make sense for us to use renewables up here. At least not yet, maybe, if the solar panels get better, but not today and for what it's worth, I am an athletical engineer and I have made solar panels as a college class so I have a better than average understanding of the technology, Connecticut is just not very good. It's too cloudy, that's why nuclear makes more sense up here. Power lines from the Midwest war offshore bend in the Northeast. The problem is that kills a lot of birds so you know, and apparently it's a threat to whales from some of the environmentalist groups in the area is that's what they were saying, so it's not an easy decision, but again, texans don't really care so. They'll just do what works, it's a great story. It's great for texas.And maybe they'll make the technology cheaper by the volume that they're doing to make it viable in the rest of the country
So much air conditioning and no tree shade. A barren land of steel containers. We have learned nothing.
Probably a fire risk
Texas doesn't have too many public parks so forget about sitting under trees and this is a better alternative to coal power plants that make living near them a health hazard
They could have used solar canopies at least.
Solar panels would save on cooling costs and help charge the batteries.