Minor Update for Re-roll (september) Housing + life skill related to building a house, (at around October) An minor update that fixies the "quality" in game, making them mean something like Perfect food last longer than Good food (November/December) Cyber Ninja as part of an anniversary major Update at Janauary and announce new road map for 2023 (hopefully something about main story quest rework)
I played Zenith on Launch day and even got my friends to join me, but it didn't take long for us to stop playing. I wanted to wait until things were fixed, changed, and added so that it could feel refreshing when we returned and so far they haven't done much. It's great that there was end-game content added but end-game content will not keep people playing for long. It might not make sense to some, but you need to make it so people are literally able to waste hours in the game. I want to be able to spend hours a day working on a cooking skill so that I can make 5-course meals and feel like a traveling food vendor, I want to be able to experience branching storylines with random npcs and grow attach to them as I learn more about their background, I want to be able to be rewarded for exploring by finding villages or towns and discovering the little quirks about it (right now the game feels very very linear). As you said, the world feels so empty and you don't really notice until you hang around the starting area and just see npcs standing around doing nothing. The one thing MMOs should get right before everything else is making sure their world feels lived in and alive. Something that a lot of people don't really notice the first time around when watching SAO is that the game itself is very bland & simple, but it's the immersion and interaction with the world that draws people in. Playing Zenith was very fun and I loved the fact that you'd be able to cook, but as soon as I started cooking I instantly realized the game failed at a more basic level. The fact that your in-game hands don't properly grab things and it feels like you're pinching items as you pick them up is immersion breaking for me. I know they had to cut some corners to make it more accessible to all platforms, but I felt less like a Chef and more like a toddler playing with an easy bake oven. I do hope that one day the game becomes more than it is now and fulfills the potential it has though.
@@kaydenlee4384 Had they not taken the time to add those cooking mechanics and just made it so you bought food items then I'd agree. However, you should never half-ass a feature in a game you make. They literally added pets and a capturing system, but I could argue that this game isn't a pokemon game so why focus on that. At the end of the day, all I'm asking is for it to be a bit more robust. You don't really need to be able to open a restaurant or serve people, but I just can't help but be taken out of immersion when it looks like I'm grabbing items like a toddler.
Bro, I rarely read game reviews, but this one gave me genuine insight on the game. Thanks for this review, and I hope you enjoy new-era gaming as a whole at some point.
This! Wholeheartedly agree with Your points because my friends and I are in the exact same boat but we did still enjoy yelling at each other in goofy combat. So we are going back, prolly not to too many changes but still.
This was a super handy video for people like me that haven’t played since January. Thank You so much for the great transitions and straight to the point facts about each update. Along with your own personal insights from having engaged with the game. My friends and I are about to give it another go after not playing since January so wish us luck.
January 27th was the best day of my year so far. The first time I launched the game, heard the music for the first time, it was an experience I haven't felt since the first time I tried a VR headset. I loved it.
I was busy with work all summer but being back at university ive got alot of time again. Wanted to jump back in a just play a new character, this was great to see how things have been. Thanks for the video, I Would LOVE more rp in this game.
If housing really becomes a thing and I can customize my own house I would LOVE this game. The more this is like sao the more obsessed I’d be. The game does feel empty when it comes to npcs. Have them talk to each other! Have a whole list of conversations that they could talk about. The more lively this game feels the more immersive it’ll be.
I came in alpha, and got lv 40 on day 3 post release. I'm coming back now for Celestial Throne, but you're absolutely right. I don't have much of a reason to stay after, besides just getting max armor
I remember the day this game launched and it was something incredible. There were no tutorials or anything like that and the servers were full of people ready to go explore. That is something truly worth experiencing and so far it is probably the best moment in VR I have experienced to this day. The game itself was decent, at first I loved the gameplay but when I unlocked all abilities, it started getting pretty boring so I stopped playing it after a few days. I have not played it since but maybe some day again, who knows...
When zenith first released I played on opening night and for the next few days ended up like 10-15 levels above most people that I met on the game. I do think the game has a lot of potential but I think I’m gonna wait a bit before fully coming back to the game.
I bought the game a long time ago, and as an mmorpg player (elder scrolls online, Tibia, Diablo, etc etc etc) it feels like the game is lifeless and needs improvement. They need to pay attention in crafting skills and create more npc´s, stores, and more. But it´s a worth game, I know that in 5 years is going to be a very complete game.
When zenith came out on 1/27/22 i was so hyped I was playing the game none stop but after playing it for almost 3 months it started to get boring there was nothing else to do and there wasn’t a lot of players around either it kind of started to feel empty as if I was the only one playing the game. I stopped playing zenith for 1 month then I came back on June because I heard there was some new mini updates and patches, I played it for few days then it just got boring again 😂 Now it’s been 5 months well it’s going to be 6 months now in a few weeks that I haven’t touched zenith. I heard that there’s going to be a huge update along with the new class and I can’t wait to jump in again. I hope it’s better than before.
i got my quest 2 just for this game! haven't played since a few weeks after the celestial throne update and am honestly a lil anxious abt coming back. still i'm about to log in now so wish me luck 🗡😁🗡
The day zenith came out me and my friend couldn't get in for hours, I had school the next day so I tried to get it that night, I didn't have much time but then I did dude, it was so cool but then it got boring after a month then I got off for 6-5 months but now it's actually fun
As someone who literally just started playing right before the cyber ninja is about to drop, I’ll let you know how I feel about this in a few months. 😂 First jumping into this game rn is magical.
I enjoyed Zenith, but I couldn't get passed the gliding. I loved gliding when the glitch was available that allowed you to fly very quickly, and even upward. Allowing people more freedom when flying was one of the most requested things, yet they refused; and they even patched that one glitch that everyone loved. Until they change the gliding, I will not be touching the game again.
Still waiting for their promised race, and a fix for the Index controllers. Accidently casting spells while just simply walking or trying to grab something... is not fun. Index controllers kind of need you to at least have your hand on the grip, and humans naturally curl our fingers around something we hold, or just are loose... bbut still sometimes I might curl my fingers on accident and then OOPS, there goes another spell and my MP I didn't mean to cast! ... so annoying. I'd say that's my MAIN reason I havn't played and still waiting for that fix. Also if they add the race, and I have to start all over? I'd rather not waste time on a character I'm not going to main.
The amount of times Ive casted a spell trying to climb is insane I hope they find a fix for it soon, and yeah if they add the new class it'll have to be a new character, so it's a matter of how much you want to commit to playing the game again depending on how fun the class is.
I played during release day I think it was okay not the best but decent... I honest just want more content more classes to be exact but zenith is okay just not really for me.
Been following Zenith for a while, havent played it though. As a mmo player I looked at the game as a mmorpg and not ''OMG MMO ON VR HYPE" and it looked pretty bad and empty. I am dissapointed to see they still havent improved on the socials. Social mechanics and pvp are indeed exactly what I was thinking. If you would take orbus guild and housing into zenith and add some pvp, then itll be a fun game :)
Pvp In zenith would be an absolute nightmare it'd just be filled with mages and everyone would get one shot people deal more than 2x their health in dmg even as blade master (lvl 12) I deal 1k damage on a good slice and 2k with a skill like scythe
Generally everyone hovers to one or two shards, regardless of region. It does seem like nearly all the others have 0, as me and some others joined a low population server (not bottom) and it shot up the list in total population, so I think at least half the servers are empty
I was playing Orbus before Zenith launched. I switched to Zenith on launch and quickly realized that the gameplay loops (trade skills/dungeons/open world bosses) were severely lacking or were completely non-existent, especially compared to Orbus. But Now both games are pretty much dead so i guess ill go back to non-VR mmos.
I played on launch and got kinda annoyed after reaching the pirate bay.The lack of art direction the weird fighting etc my biggest problem is that the game just doesn't feel good for melee. Then the quests feel rather ugh aswell. I mean iremember when there was a quest where there was IN THE QUEST DESCRIPTION "use your imagination" because they didn't add any zenithians to safe so you just hovered your hand in the air. Then a really big problem for me aswell was that the classes are just "melee or mage" and the underclasses are just slight reflavors of an ability. Tanks healers etc all look and feel the same the only diffrence is what the abilitys do. Imagine if the druid in ESO would just be a normal mage with other damage types. Edit: also guess which class still isn't here ? Jup cyberninja and it's 2023
He thing i hate about zenith is thay players are leaving cause the fast flight is gone…..like it was a glitch i know they are upset that it was fun but they gotta deal with it just because one things gone you dont have to go
Is this game worth spending money on? Does this game have a proper story? If there is no story, at least some proper action? The majority of games on VR are wave/horde shooters. I've bought games from the VR TH-camrs' recommendations, and all of them were bland and boring. I lost trust in VR TH-cam reviewers, they seem to recommend everything. Kayak VR Song in the smoke Carve (snowboarding) Resident Evil 4 (easy to finish once you obtain the infinite rocket launcher) Phantom covert ops Maybe because the VR catalogue does have not much to choose from? The only VR games I loved so far are HL Alyx Red Matter 2 on Quest 2 is good. It looks almost indistinguishable from the desktop version. Fallout 4 VR ==>> Needs controls and interaction with objects sorted out, then it would be a remarkable VR game. Stormland Asgard Wrath I love VR, but it's like someone who loves cats but allergic to cats. You some much want to love it but made it almost impossible to do so.
I kinda don't want PVP. It messes up balancing and changes the community. There are plenty of PVE games that keep players coming back constantly, like Path of Exile and Warframe. There are ways to do this with PVE
this game looks awful i never trust when these indie games get investors.. that's just the developers basically telling us that they're out of ideas and are giving up. if they had a path forward and were convinces that their game was going to be successful they wouldn't have taken the investment. the game looks awful because it has no clear design choice it just looks random..something you'd make at your first year in art school. i honestly couldn't tell you what this game was about if i looked at it. you can tell what other games are about even those awful ubisoft games.
What should Zenith add in the next update?
Minor Update for Re-roll (september)
Housing + life skill related to building a house, (at around October)
An minor update that fixies the "quality" in game, making them mean something like Perfect food last longer than Good food (November/December)
Cyber Ninja as part of an anniversary major Update at Janauary and announce new road map for 2023 (hopefully something about main story quest rework)
I would Love a voice acting patch, and housing! That mainly, but im also still wanting to do a playthrough with cyberninja
More & bigger zone quests.
New class
PvP
I played Zenith on Launch day and even got my friends to join me, but it didn't take long for us to stop playing. I wanted to wait until things were fixed, changed, and added so that it could feel refreshing when we returned and so far they haven't done much. It's great that there was end-game content added but end-game content will not keep people playing for long. It might not make sense to some, but you need to make it so people are literally able to waste hours in the game. I want to be able to spend hours a day working on a cooking skill so that I can make 5-course meals and feel like a traveling food vendor, I want to be able to experience branching storylines with random npcs and grow attach to them as I learn more about their background, I want to be able to be rewarded for exploring by finding villages or towns and discovering the little quirks about it (right now the game feels very very linear). As you said, the world feels so empty and you don't really notice until you hang around the starting area and just see npcs standing around doing nothing. The one thing MMOs should get right before everything else is making sure their world feels lived in and alive. Something that a lot of people don't really notice the first time around when watching SAO is that the game itself is very bland & simple, but it's the immersion and interaction with the world that draws people in. Playing Zenith was very fun and I loved the fact that you'd be able to cook, but as soon as I started cooking I instantly realized the game failed at a more basic level. The fact that your in-game hands don't properly grab things and it feels like you're pinching items as you pick them up is immersion breaking for me. I know they had to cut some corners to make it more accessible to all platforms, but I felt less like a Chef and more like a toddler playing with an easy bake oven. I do hope that one day the game becomes more than it is now and fulfills the potential it has though.
I agree with the main idea but it’s not a chef game those are their own games mmorpg’s are mainly about action, but i understand what you mean.
@@kaydenlee4384 Had they not taken the time to add those cooking mechanics and just made it so you bought food items then I'd agree. However, you should never half-ass a feature in a game you make. They literally added pets and a capturing system, but I could argue that this game isn't a pokemon game so why focus on that. At the end of the day, all I'm asking is for it to be a bit more robust. You don't really need to be able to open a restaurant or serve people, but I just can't help but be taken out of immersion when it looks like I'm grabbing items like a toddler.
Bro, I rarely read game reviews, but this one gave me genuine insight on the game. Thanks for this review, and I hope you enjoy new-era gaming as a whole at some point.
This! Wholeheartedly agree with Your points because my friends and I are in the exact same boat but we did still enjoy yelling at each other in goofy combat. So we are going back, prolly not to too many changes but still.
This was a super handy video for people like me that haven’t played since January. Thank You so much for the great transitions and straight to the point facts about each update. Along with your own personal insights from having engaged with the game.
My friends and I are about to give it another go after not playing since January so wish us luck.
January 27th was the best day of my year so far. The first time I launched the game, heard the music for the first time, it was an experience I haven't felt since the first time I tried a VR headset. I loved it.
January 27th 2020... a date many will remember and a date that ultimately changed the economy. :)
@@goqsane ?
@@goqsane u mean 2022?
@@KadenFinity 21*, yes…
I was busy with work all summer but being back at university ive got alot of time again. Wanted to jump back in a just play a new character, this was great to see how things have been. Thanks for the video, I Would LOVE more rp in this game.
If housing really becomes a thing and I can customize my own house I would LOVE this game. The more this is like sao the more obsessed I’d be. The game does feel empty when it comes to npcs. Have them talk to each other! Have a whole list of conversations that they could talk about. The more lively this game feels the more immersive it’ll be.
I came in alpha, and got lv 40 on day 3 post release. I'm coming back now for Celestial Throne, but you're absolutely right. I don't have much of a reason to stay after, besides just getting max armor
Super underrated channel
It’s seriously been six months? Wow time’s gone fast!
I remember the day this game launched and it was something incredible. There were no tutorials or anything like that and the servers were full of people ready to go explore. That is something truly worth experiencing and so far it is probably the best moment in VR I have experienced to this day. The game itself was decent, at first I loved the gameplay but when I unlocked all abilities, it started getting pretty boring so I stopped playing it after a few days. I have not played it since but maybe some day again, who knows...
When zenith first released I played on opening night and for the next few days ended up like 10-15 levels above most people that I met on the game. I do think the game has a lot of potential but I think I’m gonna wait a bit before fully coming back to the game.
i want to see ground/flying mounts!
I pre-ordered it years ago in kickstarter haven't played it still.
I bought the game a long time ago, and as an mmorpg player (elder scrolls online, Tibia, Diablo, etc etc etc) it feels like the game is lifeless and needs improvement. They need to pay attention in crafting skills and create more npc´s, stores, and more.
But it´s a worth game, I know that in 5 years is going to be a very complete game.
for the next six months they should at least finish the skills and figure out if we are getting the staff
When zenith came out on 1/27/22 i was so hyped I was playing the game none stop but after playing it for almost 3 months it started to get boring there was nothing else to do and there wasn’t a lot of players around either it kind of started to feel empty as if I was the only one playing the game. I stopped playing zenith for 1 month then I came back on June because I heard there was some new mini updates and patches, I played it for few days then it just got boring again 😂
Now it’s been 5 months well it’s going to be 6 months now in a few weeks that I haven’t touched zenith. I heard that there’s going to be a huge update along with the new class and I can’t wait to jump in again. I hope it’s better than before.
i got my quest 2 just for this game! haven't played since a few weeks after the celestial throne update and am honestly a lil anxious abt coming back. still i'm about to log in now so wish me luck 🗡😁🗡
How did it go?
If zenith added more stuff to make it like sao that’d be fucking awesome
I hope they improve the story mode and add some cutscenes too
We need more video like this man 😤👏
Need them runeScape skills
The day zenith came out me and my friend couldn't get in for hours, I had school the next day so I tried to get it that night, I didn't have much time but then I did dude, it was so cool but then it got boring after a month then I got off for 6-5 months but now it's actually fun
As someone who literally just started playing right before the cyber ninja is about to drop, I’ll let you know how I feel about this in a few months. 😂 First jumping into this game rn is magical.
The cyber ninja is confirmed it is coming
I think the cyber ninja might come out near the psvr 2 launch
pog editing
totally agree with the ASO comment
Where did the 31 million go?
I enjoyed Zenith, but I couldn't get passed the gliding. I loved gliding when the glitch was available that allowed you to fly very quickly, and even upward. Allowing people more freedom when flying was one of the most requested things, yet they refused; and they even patched that one glitch that everyone loved.
Until they change the gliding, I will not be touching the game again.
I would've played it more often, but I had controller drift
This game still active and fun for new players to join?
Very much so! Most people have gravitated towards 1-2 servers, but they hold a lot of people!
Still waiting for their promised race, and a fix for the Index controllers. Accidently casting spells while just simply walking or trying to grab something... is not fun. Index controllers kind of need you to at least have your hand on the grip, and humans naturally curl our fingers around something we hold, or just are loose... bbut still sometimes I might curl my fingers on accident and then OOPS, there goes another spell and my MP I didn't mean to cast! ... so annoying.
I'd say that's my MAIN reason I havn't played and still waiting for that fix. Also if they add the race, and I have to start all over? I'd rather not waste time on a character I'm not going to main.
The amount of times Ive casted a spell trying to climb is insane I hope they find a fix for it soon, and yeah if they add the new class it'll have to be a new character, so it's a matter of how much you want to commit to playing the game again depending on how fun the class is.
I played during release day I think it was okay not the best but decent... I honest just want more content more classes to be exact but zenith is okay just not really for me.
a Hack / sign game like when?
I wanted to open a bar in zenith I thought if I maxed out my level I could o boy was I wrong was super depressed when I learned I couldn't lol
I tought this was a terraria zenith lore
Been following Zenith for a while, havent played it though.
As a mmo player I looked at the game as a mmorpg and not ''OMG MMO ON VR HYPE" and it looked pretty bad and empty.
I am dissapointed to see they still havent improved on the socials.
Social mechanics and pvp are indeed exactly what I was thinking.
If you would take orbus guild and housing into zenith and add some pvp, then itll be a fun game :)
Pvp In zenith would be an absolute nightmare it'd just be filled with mages and everyone would get one shot people deal more than 2x their health in dmg even as blade master (lvl 12) I deal 1k damage on a good slice and 2k with a skill like scythe
what video editing software do you use friend?
Davinci Resolve
Im trying to figure out, it the game dead?!
I didnt see a single person for an hour...
Generally everyone hovers to one or two shards, regardless of region. It does seem like nearly all the others have 0, as me and some others joined a low population server (not bottom) and it shot up the list in total population, so I think at least half the servers are empty
Also many people are grinding dungeons and raids so you won't see them
I was playing Orbus before Zenith launched. I switched to Zenith on launch and quickly realized that the gameplay loops (trade skills/dungeons/open world bosses) were severely lacking or were completely non-existent, especially compared to Orbus. But Now both games are pretty much dead so i guess ill go back to non-VR mmos.
Jesus, I was sure that when the game was launching that they had planned to bring a new class fairly soon...this appears to be false.
I agree with a everything
I played on launch and got kinda annoyed after reaching the pirate bay.The lack of art direction the weird fighting etc my biggest problem is that the game just doesn't feel good for melee. Then the quests feel rather ugh aswell. I mean iremember when there was a quest where there was IN THE QUEST DESCRIPTION "use your imagination" because they didn't add any zenithians to safe so you just hovered your hand in the air.
Then a really big problem for me aswell was that the classes are just "melee or mage" and the underclasses are just slight reflavors of an ability. Tanks healers etc all look and feel the same the only diffrence is what the abilitys do.
Imagine if the druid in ESO would just be a normal mage with other damage types.
Edit: also guess which class still isn't here ? Jup cyberninja and it's 2023
He thing i hate about zenith is thay players are leaving cause the fast flight is gone…..like it was a glitch i know they are upset that it was fun but they gotta deal with it just because one things gone you dont have to go
No lie they took them $30 and dipped lmao
Wow. Surprised this game is alive. Bought it on launch. Hated it, refunded it.
I despise PVP so if they implement I would love it to be optional, if its made mandatory to progression they will have lost me.
Yay still no change to blademasters sense pre alpha so much like sao when you can't even use swords variably besides dumb duel blades
when 1 guy showed up for the only world boss u know the game is kinda dead lol
Quit playing when they removed fast flight.
same
Cheh
Is this game worth spending money on?
Does this game have a proper story?
If there is no story, at least some proper action?
The majority of games on VR are wave/horde shooters.
I've bought games from the VR TH-camrs' recommendations, and all of them were bland and boring.
I lost trust in VR TH-cam reviewers, they seem to recommend everything.
Kayak VR
Song in the smoke
Carve (snowboarding)
Resident Evil 4 (easy to finish once you obtain the infinite rocket launcher)
Phantom covert ops
Maybe because the VR catalogue does have not much to choose from?
The only VR games I loved so far are
HL Alyx
Red Matter 2 on Quest 2 is good. It looks almost indistinguishable from the desktop version.
Fallout 4 VR ==>> Needs controls and interaction with objects sorted out, then it would be a remarkable VR game.
Stormland
Asgard Wrath
I love VR, but it's like someone who loves cats but allergic to cats. You some much want to love it but made it almost impossible to do so.
We will see if that 35 million matters. Right now the game feels like a very basic MMO set in VR.
I think people played zenith way too much some people beat the game insanely fast and thats not good for any games
Hey that’s Fortnite
I kinda don't want PVP. It messes up balancing and changes the community. There are plenty of PVE games that keep players coming back constantly, like Path of Exile and Warframe. There are ways to do this with PVE
Is dead
this game looks awful
i never trust when these indie games get investors.. that's just the developers basically telling us that they're out of ideas and are giving up.
if they had a path forward and were convinces that their game was going to be successful they wouldn't have taken the investment.
the game looks awful because it has no clear design choice it just looks random..something you'd make at your first year in art school.
i honestly couldn't tell you what this game was about if i looked at it. you can tell what other games are about even those awful ubisoft games.
I hate this game