My father when I was a kid, always told me of the Triumph Dolomite that he wanted in the 1930s. They were the bee's knees apparently for a young man about town as he was then! I don't recall that he ever told me he actually owned one though. In the 1960s and 1970s I had a TR3A, then a TR4A and finally a Triumph Vitesse 2 litre. They were all bought used and were all decent machines, quite reliable with good performance for the day. "Like your first love you never forget your first Spitfire" says the video advert! Dead right. In my case that first Spitfire was loaned to me for a few days by a friend, who appeared one day claiming he had just bought it. So I am driving it all around the place only to discover later - thankfully after I had returned the loaner - that my friend had stolen it "for a bit of fun", the mad bastard! The cops arrested him, interviewed me but left me alone!
History of Triumph but no mention of the six cylinder 2000 series! A quality car in saloon and estate versions they were very popular and developed through the 2500 PI and TC versions to end with the 2500S. Killed off by Rover interests in Leyland who thought everyone was going to be driving around in their low slung fast back car. But Triumph 2000/2500 series were bought by older people who didn't want a low slung car, hard to get in and out of, so they went off and bought the Volvo 244 and 246 in great numbers instead! Not to forget the Triumph 1300, 1500, Dolomite 1850 and Dolomite Sprint too.
Excellent video, Triumph the brand was iconic. Allowing it to die was criminal. Am i biased? of course I am! Ive driven and ridden many Triumphs, all were a delight. My current Triumph is a T-120 1200HT., Wonderful!
Great video, Tirumph has been an iconic brand almost from the start. Poor management coursed the brand to die, (as David say's criminal). I am also biased? I have owned and driven Triumphs since the early 70's, starting a Vitesse convertible, then a Dolomite followed by Heralds a TR and now a Stag which I have owned for 41 years. All these Triumphs, were a fun to own and drive. Cheers Bob
Triumphs were always entertaining to drive. Several Triumph innovations for mid priced mass market cars of the era included front disc brakes, full access bonnets, and independent suspension. Unfortunately poor management slowly destroyed the customer base by not addressing dangerous handling characteristics, shoddy built quality, and obsolete underpinnings. These problems could have been solved. At 60,00 miles the Spitfires and GT6 models really began to fall apart. The competing MG models were not quite as quick but handled much better and had far fewer unexpected breakdowns. The Datsun Fairlady, introduced in 1959, really showed the way forward for the low priced sports car.
garth I couldn't have put it better; I'd still own a GT6 again in a heartbeat, with its lovely woodgrain dash and sweet six (upgraded to the 2.5 PI engine, of course!); but I'd put in a complete 240Z rear end somehow! All the Triumphs were good ideas, incompletely engineered.
@@branon6565 Actually Garth is correct. He's referring to the original Datsun Sports and called the Fairlady on the Japanese and Australian markets; this was introduced in 1959. The Datsun 240Z to which you refer was introduced in 1969.
Interesting film but a whole piece of the Triumph story was skipped over. After Sir John Black bought the Triumph name a series of cars were built that owed much of their design and technology to the pre-war era these included the Triumph 1800 that became the Triumph 2000 that became the Triumph Renown along with the quaint but hopelessly outdated Triumph Mayflower. The Mayflower was the loves child of Sir John and Triumph and was produced for the American market as a ‘small luxury car’, can you see the problem? Triumph sold just 503 in North America and the rest of the 34,000 production run sold either in the UK or across the Commonwealth. Now, before anyone starts shouting at me about my Mayflower comments, I own a 1953 example and my family and I love ‘Mildred’ but we agree that this car was outdated before it left the factory for the first time in 1949. Working on my own car I have discovered just how rudimentary the Mayflower was. Despite it’s 1949 London Motor Show debut and the marketing ploy of singing the praises of its first class engineering and modern design, I have to say that many of the parts look like they were made by men in sheds (although having just wrote that, I have to acknowledge that today’s men in sheds are producing far superior things). As I said, I love my Mayflower but also acknowledge it was not the car it was commissioned to be. However, those early Sir John Black cars built under the Triumph name should have been mentioned in this film but have been totally ignored. If a book or a film is produced about the history of an automobile manufacturer it should be a warts and all reality and not sweep under the carpet the white elephants. I think it should be noted that the 1800 & 2000 models were relatively successful but the restyled Renown offered nothing new and the Mayflower was an out and out dinosaur.
Boot, bonnet, hood instead of trunk, hood, roof. Spanner instead of wrench. Petrol instead of gas. Saloon instead of sedan. "Coo-pay" instead of "coop." Tyre instead of tire. To-MAY-to, to-MAH-to, po-TAY-to, po-TAH-to. It's all the same as long as it gets you down the road. Who's to say which is right and proper?
Well, "Estate Car" has a certain ring to it, implying that one uses it to swan about one's thousand acre estate in the countryside. Station Wagon however - is that a truck used to cart stuff to the rail station then?
@@stewartw.9151 Australia, being the egalitarian nation that we like to think of ourselves, we don't have those massive estates that useless aristocratic "twats" like to drive around on to show how important(?) they are and how wealthy(?), which they are not! When the station wagon car body style was introduced in Australia, we called it that quite independently of the Americans, but the body style that was the station wagon incorporated the passenger space of a saloon(sedan) and combined it with load carrying capabilities of a panel van(by folding down the rear passenger seat). I drive a station wagon, and, even without folding down the rear seat, I have a lot more room for my "stuff" than I would in an ordinary sedan, and not necessarily to cart off to any railway station.
My boss had a Triumph Stag in 1978. He let me drive it to the bank every few days to bank the takings. I was VERY NAUGHTY! Thankfully, I never had an accident but, boy oh boy, was it exhilarating 😉
May I have permission to post this to my company website, The Roadster Factory? Before I just "share" things I like to get permission. The Roadster Factory is a parts supplier to the Triumph TRs and MGB and we are located in Armagh PA. www.the-roadster-factory.com
If I have received a windfall I could show you guys so much I would love to be monetized on TH-cam also though for this one because I could buy these old school cars from over in different countries which are not readily seen on the streets in America at all The kicker is I purchased a brand new roller chassis with a LS engine swap and put the old school foreign car body on the rolling new chassis American made and have the luxurious ride of her Mercedes-Benz yes for sale will turn to forsold cooktown prices so affordable you will say you stole it yeah my logo Turn sell, into soul-Sold...
Presumably, bearing in mind the number of lost working days, the Labour Party and the Unions can be blamed for the final nail in the coffin at Triumph? Hardly a Triumph in the end, just a disappointment for a company which ultimately lead the world is stylish and practical sports cars!
The front end of the Triumph Dolomite is SO UGLY, makes me want to run outside and throw up! It's as ugly in its day as the Lexus is today(2019). The only thing uglier was the boot end(back) of a Leyland P-76.... AND THAT WAS F***ING UGLY!!!(Stuff of nightmares!(.
My father when I was a kid, always told me of the Triumph Dolomite that he wanted in the 1930s. They were the bee's knees apparently for a young man about town as he was then! I don't recall that he ever told me he actually owned one though.
In the 1960s and 1970s I had a TR3A, then a TR4A and finally a Triumph Vitesse 2 litre. They were all bought used and were all decent machines, quite reliable with good performance for the day.
"Like your first love you never forget your first Spitfire" says the video advert! Dead right.
In my case that first Spitfire was loaned to me for a few days by a friend, who appeared one day claiming he had just bought it. So I am driving it all around the place only to discover later - thankfully after I had returned the loaner - that my friend had stolen it "for a bit of fun", the mad bastard!
The cops arrested him, interviewed me but left me alone!
I feel cheated = no mention of my favourite Triumph, the Mayflower.
Very nicely done video. Cheers.
History of Triumph but no mention of the six cylinder 2000 series! A quality car in saloon and estate versions they were very popular and developed through the 2500 PI and TC versions to end with the 2500S. Killed off by Rover interests in Leyland who thought everyone was going to be driving around in their low slung fast back car. But Triumph 2000/2500 series were bought by older people who didn't want a low slung car, hard to get in and out of, so they went off and bought the Volvo 244 and 246 in great numbers instead! Not to forget the Triumph 1300, 1500, Dolomite 1850 and Dolomite Sprint too.
Had two Triumph 2000 and and done me well....,my Herald succumbed to rust alas.
aeroearth absolutely spot on... my dad went for the Volvo estates, buying around eight during his lifetime after his 1976 2500s estate
All you need to know about Triumph Motor Company: th-cam.com/video/heIx58ZH_bg/w-d-xo.html
The Triumph Acclaim is worth money today just because it's an old Honda
Excellent video, Triumph the brand was iconic. Allowing it to die was criminal. Am i biased? of course I am! Ive driven and ridden many Triumphs, all were a delight. My current Triumph is a T-120 1200HT., Wonderful!
Loved my Dolomite Sprint, so good to see it covered here.
Great video, Tirumph has been an iconic brand almost from the start. Poor management coursed the brand to die, (as David say's criminal). I am also biased? I have owned and driven Triumphs since the early 70's, starting a Vitesse convertible, then a Dolomite followed by Heralds a TR and now a Stag which I have owned for 41 years. All these Triumphs, were a fun to own and drive. Cheers Bob
I loved my GT6 Mk2.......
My triumph herald 1200 covertable was my favorite car I ever owned . Put twin s u carbs on her and she was very fast .drum brakes wher a problem.
Triumphs were always entertaining to drive. Several Triumph innovations for mid priced mass market cars of the era included front disc brakes, full access bonnets, and independent suspension. Unfortunately poor management slowly destroyed the customer base by not addressing dangerous handling characteristics, shoddy built quality, and obsolete underpinnings. These problems could have been solved. At 60,00 miles the Spitfires and GT6 models really began to fall apart. The competing MG models were not quite as quick but handled much better and had far fewer unexpected breakdowns. The Datsun Fairlady, introduced in 1959, really showed the way forward for the low priced sports car.
garth I couldn't have put it better; I'd still own a GT6 again in a heartbeat, with its lovely woodgrain dash and sweet six (upgraded to the 2.5 PI engine, of course!); but I'd put in a complete 240Z rear end somehow! All the Triumphs were good ideas, incompletely engineered.
garth lundquist.... *Datsun 240Z....
@@branon6565 Actually Garth is correct. He's referring to the original Datsun Sports and called the Fairlady on the Japanese and Australian markets; this was introduced in 1959. The Datsun 240Z to which you refer was introduced in 1969.
7:30 That little car, looks like a kiddie's pedal car....a toy!
I have the pleasure to own a spitfire 1500 and is my British treasure!
Who sings the song in the credits?
Interesting film but a whole piece of the Triumph story was skipped over. After Sir John Black bought the Triumph name a series of cars were built that owed much of their design and technology to the pre-war era these included the Triumph 1800 that became the Triumph 2000 that became the Triumph Renown along with the quaint but hopelessly outdated Triumph Mayflower. The Mayflower was the loves child of Sir John and Triumph and was produced for the American market as a ‘small luxury car’, can you see the problem? Triumph sold just 503 in North America and the rest of the 34,000 production run sold either in the UK or across the Commonwealth. Now, before anyone starts shouting at me about my Mayflower comments, I own a 1953 example and my family and I love ‘Mildred’ but we agree that this car was outdated before it left the factory for the first time in 1949. Working on my own car I have discovered just how rudimentary the Mayflower was. Despite it’s 1949 London Motor Show debut and the marketing ploy of singing the praises of its first class engineering and modern design, I have to say that many of the parts look like they were made by men in sheds (although having just wrote that, I have to acknowledge that today’s men in sheds are producing far superior things). As I said, I love my Mayflower but also acknowledge it was not the car it was commissioned to be. However, those early Sir John Black cars built under the Triumph name should have been mentioned in this film but have been totally ignored. If a book or a film is produced about the history of an automobile manufacturer it should be a warts and all reality and not sweep under the carpet the white elephants. I think it should be noted that the 1800 & 2000 models were relatively successful but the restyled Renown offered nothing new and the Mayflower was an out and out dinosaur.
Triumph,as endorsed by Moses, after all he rode down the valley in one 😉
I miss my TR3 :-(
Me too !
And me. Liked my TR3A better than the TR4A I later owned.
Err, what about the TR8? 2,715 units made (roughly). Fastest TR, arguably the best TR, and not a mention! Odd.
TR7 the car with no face.
So, what about the TR8? Surely that was the last real Triumph, and not the TR7? I am amazed at the oversight.
Do you know how many they actually built ?
Wish you Brits would use the more familiar name, "STATION WAGON" over the term, "Estate Car". (13:00)
Boot, bonnet, hood instead of trunk, hood, roof. Spanner instead of wrench. Petrol instead of gas. Saloon instead of sedan. "Coo-pay" instead of "coop." Tyre instead of tire. To-MAY-to, to-MAH-to, po-TAY-to, po-TAH-to. It's all the same as long as it gets you down the road. Who's to say which is right and proper?
"Who's to say which is right and proper?"@@richardreed2688? Well, as the English language originated in England........
Well, "Estate Car" has a certain ring to it, implying that one uses it to swan about one's thousand acre estate in the countryside.
Station Wagon however - is that a truck used to cart stuff to the rail station then?
@@stewartw.9151 Australia, being the egalitarian nation that we like to think of ourselves, we don't have those massive estates that useless aristocratic "twats" like to drive around on to show how important(?) they are and how wealthy(?), which they are not! When the station wagon car body style was introduced in Australia, we called it that quite independently of the Americans, but the body style that was the station wagon incorporated the passenger space of a saloon(sedan) and combined it with load carrying capabilities of a panel van(by folding down the rear passenger seat). I drive a station wagon, and, even without folding down the rear seat, I have a lot more room for my "stuff" than I would in an ordinary sedan, and not necessarily to cart off to any railway station.
Oh Gosh! That’s fighting talk😉
My boss had a Triumph Stag in 1978. He let me drive it to the bank every few days to bank the takings. I was VERY NAUGHTY! Thankfully, I never had an accident but, boy oh boy, was it exhilarating 😉
One of those use to be good car makers...
The oldest Car Manufactur! Even in the Bible stands written: and Jesus went in Triumph to Heaven!
May I have permission to post this to my company website, The Roadster Factory? Before I just "share" things I like to get permission. The Roadster Factory is a parts supplier to the Triumph TRs and MGB and we are located in Armagh PA. www.the-roadster-factory.com
If I have received a windfall I could show you guys so much I would love to be monetized on TH-cam also though for this one because I could buy these old school cars from over in different countries which are not readily seen on the streets in America at all
The kicker is I purchased a brand new roller chassis with a LS engine swap and put the old school foreign car body on the rolling new chassis American made and have the luxurious ride of her Mercedes-Benz yes for sale will turn to forsold cooktown prices so affordable you will say you stole it yeah my logo
Turn sell, into soul-Sold...
No self-respecting maker of British or Australian built cars SHOULD EVER HAVE THEIR PRODUCT SEEN AS LEFT-HAND-DRIVE!
Presumably, bearing in mind the number of lost working days, the Labour Party and the Unions can be blamed for the final nail in the coffin at Triumph? Hardly a Triumph in the end, just a disappointment for a company which ultimately lead the world is stylish and practical sports cars!
TR7.... Uglier things have been seen, but not by reliable witnesses.
The front end of the Triumph Dolomite is SO UGLY, makes me want to run outside and throw up! It's as ugly in its day as the Lexus is today(2019). The only thing uglier was the boot end(back) of a Leyland P-76.... AND THAT WAS F***ING UGLY!!!(Stuff of nightmares!(.