Next time I need to get a stray balloon off my turntable I will know exactly what to do. I hate when a balloon just floats into my house and attaches it to my turntable like that when I am trying to play a record! Just kidding! This is a good demonstration! I think I have been using mine incorrectly. Still, I can't seem to squeeze or let go of the trigger without the click! Good video! Thumbs up!
Finally! Looked at the doc and several videos. No one explained the technique to making this work or what the Ion Indicator is for. The big takeaway for me is that: 1) The trigger should be pressed slowly so as NOT to click. Clicking = Failure, do over. 2) How to use the ion indicator to verify the unit is working. I tried it and my results are much better now. I do get better results holding the record off the turntable. Using the gun with the record on the turntable does work, but it seems less effective. It takes many more trigger pulls. I'll check out your site. Thanks!
Hey Bernie, thanks for the most comprehensive explanation of the Milty Pro ZeroStat 3 I have ever seen. And great advice on using the ion indicator tip as a safety cover. Even though you didn't mention it, if tiny fingers get in the discharge hole, they can damage the pin as well. Didn't know you couldn't use the ZeroState when the LP was on the turntable, but as you proved, it was incorrect information in the first place.
Thanks for this helpful video. One question, if you aren't supposed to hear the gun click, how come I heard the click during your tests? Is it ok if it click's at the end of the 5 second trigger pull?
Good video. I make LP to digital transfers and have used the Milty Gun for 15 years. There is no doubt in my mind it helps to reduce but not eliminate static. It saves a lot of time in the remastering in the number of pops and clicks I have to fix. I think the best reason to use one is that it make brushing off of the record more effective. Certainly if you just spin a record for you own pleasure, and it is a record that is in good shape, and not that old (e.g. from 70s or 80s) - you may not have to use one of these. Most listeners will just tune out the noise. But if you want to reduce pops and clicks on a 70 year old LP, along with cleaning the record, it is about the best thing you can use. Plus if you live in colder climates where houses get super dry in winter, static charges build up easily. I use mine a lot in winter.
One of the most in depth videos I've seen ! Really makes sense of the use and it's full potential, just one thing I've noticed which I'd like to clear up before adding it to the kit.. There seem to be a Zerostat 3 Milty and Milty Pro.. does anyone perhaps know of a difference, if one is better than the other, or completely the same ? Thanks once again for walking us through ! Cheers !
Very useful thanks. I just bought one, its a shame that it costs £50 but comes with two sentences of instructions. Consensus says that if it clicks you are squeezing too fast and damaging the piezo thing. I mention this as yours clicks several times, but works.. Mine barely registers the red LED, unless it clicks. Super confused. Any ideas? Will contact milty obvs, but real world info is always helpful too.
Scratch that. I rewatched your video, you have your finger on the tip, mine now matches yours. I though it gave a shock so wasnt looking to put my finger in the way!!! Thanks again
There is a of of mystery around the anti-stat gun. Yes, the idea is to squeeze slowly because if the piezo clicks the ions aren't flowing properly. I've never heard that it damages the crystal and I would doubt that to be the case but i suppose anything is possible. Milty is the authority on this matter as you've mentioned and to be 100% sure as to the operational 'do's and don'ts' they would be the one to contact. Sorry we couldn't be of more help. Perhaps if we designed the thing... :)
Bags Unlimited Inc. i also found the video at goldring (owners of milty i think) useful. They say to repeat the trigger squeeze To make four times in total. More voodoo :-)
It works both on and off the turntable. However, there are those who advise against using it on a turntable because it may affect delicate electrical components.
Would using the mat and the anti-static brush not be enough to reduce static (and also cleaning a record with anti-static cleaning fluid)? Is the gun still needed then? I use an anti-static mat and brush on one turntable, and a anti-static mat with cork spots on the other turntable. All my vinyl is cleaned using a recordcleaner machine with anti-static fluid. Never have any problems with my vinyl. Also i use anti-static innersleeves.
It all depends on your environment and whether or not your turntable is setup and grounded properly. In a lot of cases one may not need or find use for an anti-stat gun. There will be occasions however that people would find it very useful. If you are one of those who is having no issues with static with your current method of playing and listening then you're in good shape!
Anti static products such as brushes and sleeves only don't create static they don't remove the static. For the most part you don't need this gun only if you hate getting Zapped when you touch the tonearm or your mat is sticking to your records from static cling. I have saved a couple records though that were unplayable from static hit him with a gun and sounded great again but this is very far and few between
Hey Bernie - I have the original gun I think I bought it in 1976, I guess I could do a test like the balloon thing you just did, but, what is the life expectancy of this thing?
Too many clicks when demonstrating the Zerostat. They are clearly audible. Just got a like new one on Ebay for $40. but no tip which does not concern me.
Yes. One thing we've recently learned is that you don't need to squeeze the trigger back very far for the Zerostat to be effective. It will discharge with a half depress.
@@BagsUnlimitedRochester The distance the trigger is squeezed has nothing to do with creating the clicks. Going too fast creates the clicks. Go sloooowwww (zen like) and practice getting no clicks and hence a full stream of positive then negative ions. Good info on grounding. th-cam.com/video/kgQLMBG-eQs/w-d-xo.html
I haven't observed the consensus 4:29 that you cannot use the zero-stat when the record is already on the turntable. The only mention I ever heard of it is th-cam.com/video/IoARgc8YdpM/w-d-xo.htmlm46s th-cam.com/video/IoARgc8YdpM/w-d-xo.htmlm10s
That can actually damage many turntables. of course it will work by removing the charge. But shooting ions at turn tables that have certain sensors in them will misalign the calibration of the sensors, or ruin them. An example would be one of my turntables, the Mitsubishi LT - 20. Per the manufacture this gun will harm the turntable to the point where it will need to be brought to a certified technician for sensor repair. (Tracking sensors in my case)
@@BagsUnlimitedRochester I've been playing records since the 70s as a young teenager and still do as an old fart and never used one of these stat guns. Seriously, what a piece of crap preying on those that will believe in this con!
@@Stringbean421, if you've never used one then you probably don't know how well they work. Perhaps you've been missing out all these years.Maybe you should give it a try and make your record listening experience all the better.
@@BagsUnlimitedRochester Um,..No , I won't try one because I've not been missing out on anything after 40 years of playing records with zero problems regarding static. This is a gadget that is money for old rope and I feel genuinly sorry for those that fall for this scam!!
, Scam is a pretty inflammatory word. Perhaps you should try one before making such accusations. You'd probably be surprised by what it's capable of. Thanks for your comments.
What specifically would you like us to talk about, Michael? We don't really have hands on experience with products we do not sell. Let us know. Thanks.
What a horrendous pain in the ass to listen to a record!! This is why CDs won over people!! The best turntable systems sound the best but this is too much!!!
All of these steps aren't necessary every time one listens to a record. Ideally, once the record has had an initial proper cleaning, only minimal maintenance is needed with each consecutive listen. There can be quite a few steps when listening to vinyl but it's a labor of live.
I still have the old red classic of this gun that I bought over 30 years ago. Still working great!
Next time I need to get a stray balloon off my turntable I will know exactly what to do. I hate when a balloon just floats into my house and attaches it to my turntable like that when I am trying to play a record! Just kidding! This is a good demonstration! I think I have been using mine incorrectly. Still, I can't seem to squeeze or let go of the trigger without the click! Good video! Thumbs up!
Finally! Looked at the doc and several videos. No one explained the technique to making this work or what the Ion Indicator is for. The big takeaway for me is that:
1) The trigger should be pressed slowly so as NOT to click. Clicking = Failure, do over.
2) How to use the ion indicator to verify the unit is working.
I tried it and my results are much better now. I do get better results holding the record off the turntable. Using the gun with the record on the turntable does work, but it seems less effective. It takes many more trigger pulls.
I'll check out your site. Thanks!
Hey Bernie, thanks for the most comprehensive explanation of the Milty Pro ZeroStat 3 I have ever seen. And great advice on using the ion indicator tip as a safety cover. Even though you didn't mention it, if tiny fingers get in the discharge hole, they can damage the pin as well. Didn't know you couldn't use the ZeroState when the LP was on the turntable, but as you proved, it was incorrect information in the first place.
Thanks a lot for the comment and props! Glad you found it valuable.
best explanation so far, thanks !
Glad to help!
Thanks so much for showing how the zero stat works, have been shown many wrong was of using it.
Glad we can help!
Finally someone testing it with live examples.
Hope you found this info valuable.
Here is a brand new video that shows that it works on dissipating static. th-cam.com/video/Y7h89Y1tlRE/w-d-xo.html
Thanks for this helpful video. One question, if you aren't supposed to hear the gun click, how come I heard the click during your tests? Is it ok if it click's at the end of the 5 second trigger pull?
Good video. I make LP to digital transfers and have used the Milty Gun for 15 years. There is no doubt in my mind it helps to reduce but not eliminate static. It saves a lot of time in the remastering in the number of pops and clicks I have to fix. I think the best reason to use one is that it make brushing off of the record more effective. Certainly if you just spin a record for you own pleasure, and it is a record that is in good shape, and not that old (e.g. from 70s or 80s) - you may not have to use one of these. Most listeners will just tune out the noise. But if you want to reduce pops and clicks on a 70 year old LP, along with cleaning the record, it is about the best thing you can use. Plus if you live in colder climates where houses get super dry in winter, static charges build up easily. I use mine a lot in winter.
Love me some Bags U. My entire album collection is in their poly bags.
One of the most in depth videos I've seen !
Really makes sense of the use and it's full potential, just one thing I've noticed which I'd like to clear up before adding it to the kit..
There seem to be a Zerostat 3 Milty and Milty Pro.. does anyone perhaps know of a difference, if one is better than the other, or completely the same ?
Thanks once again for walking us through !
Cheers !
Thank goodness for your video...nothing in the package said what the heck the “tip” was for! 🤪
Huh... that’s odd. Glad we could help!
That would be a NEON bulb
Thanks for the info.
Great video man. Off to ebay to get a anti static gun.
They work pretty well when used properly!
faut il enlever le bouchon?
Everyone shows that it actually works. NOBODY shows the correct way to use it on your records
Very useful thanks. I just bought one, its a shame that it costs £50 but comes with two sentences of instructions. Consensus says that if it clicks you are squeezing too fast and damaging the piezo thing. I mention this as yours clicks several times, but works.. Mine barely registers the red LED, unless it clicks. Super confused. Any ideas? Will contact milty obvs, but real world info is always helpful too.
Scratch that. I rewatched your video, you have your finger on the tip, mine now matches yours. I though it gave a shock so wasnt looking to put my finger in the way!!! Thanks again
There is a of of mystery around the anti-stat gun. Yes, the idea is to squeeze slowly because if the piezo clicks the ions aren't flowing properly. I've never heard that it damages the crystal and I would doubt that to be the case but i suppose anything is possible. Milty is the authority on this matter as you've mentioned and to be 100% sure as to the operational 'do's and don'ts' they would be the one to contact. Sorry we couldn't be of more help. Perhaps if we designed the thing... :)
Bags Unlimited Inc. i also found the video at goldring (owners of milty i think) useful. They say to repeat the trigger squeeze
To make four times in total. More voodoo :-)
Wait, it does or does not work when the LP is on the turntable? It seemed to work in your demo (the balloon rolled off after a couple of squeezes).
It works both on and off the turntable. However, there are those who advise against using it on a turntable because it may affect delicate electrical components.
Would using the mat and the anti-static brush not be enough to reduce static (and also cleaning a record with anti-static cleaning fluid)? Is the gun still needed then?
I use an anti-static mat and brush on one turntable, and a anti-static mat with cork spots on the other turntable. All my vinyl is cleaned using a recordcleaner machine with anti-static fluid. Never have any problems with my vinyl. Also i use anti-static innersleeves.
It all depends on your environment and whether or not your turntable is setup and grounded properly. In a lot of cases one may not need or find use for an anti-stat gun. There will be occasions however that people would find it very useful. If you are one of those who is having no issues with static with your current method of playing and listening then you're in good shape!
Anti static products such as brushes and sleeves only don't create static they don't remove the static. For the most part you don't need this gun only if you hate getting Zapped when you touch the tonearm or your mat is sticking to your records from static cling. I have saved a couple records though that were unplayable from static hit him with a gun and sounded great again but this is very far and few between
I thought it wasn’t supposed to click? It clicked and worked.
If it clicks, you can just reset it y releasing the trigger and depress it again. Sometimes you can't help but make it click.
Hey Bernie - I have the original gun I think I bought it in 1976, I guess I could do a test like the balloon thing you just did, but, what is the life expectancy of this thing?
If you have the original testing cap, you should be able to plug it into the gun and make sure it's still working as it should.
I have the newer model and it says 50,000 pulls of the trigger
Too many clicks when demonstrating the Zerostat. They are clearly audible. Just got a like new one on Ebay for $40. but no tip which does not concern me.
Yes. One thing we've recently learned is that you don't need to squeeze the trigger back very far for the Zerostat to be effective. It will discharge with a half depress.
@@BagsUnlimitedRochester The distance the trigger is squeezed has nothing to do with creating the clicks. Going too fast creates the clicks. Go sloooowwww (zen like) and practice getting no clicks and hence a full stream of positive then negative ions.
Good info on grounding.
th-cam.com/video/kgQLMBG-eQs/w-d-xo.html
I haven't observed the consensus 4:29 that you cannot use the zero-stat when the record is already on the turntable. The only mention I ever heard of it is th-cam.com/video/IoARgc8YdpM/w-d-xo.htmlm46s th-cam.com/video/IoARgc8YdpM/w-d-xo.htmlm10s
Curious. Perhaps it's just one of those rumors that gets passed around.
That can actually damage many turntables. of course it will work by removing the charge. But shooting ions at turn tables that have certain sensors in them will misalign the calibration of the sensors, or ruin them. An example would be one of my turntables, the Mitsubishi LT - 20. Per the manufacture this gun will harm the turntable to the point where it will need to be brought to a certified technician for sensor repair. (Tracking sensors in my case)
I think you have static charge in microphone
It's from all the static we were dispersing from the vinyl!
Don’t pick on Ms Ross lol
We would never!
Watch the left hand, carefully, at 4:19. I saw your little shimmy/nudge... To make the balloon fall. Sorry, they just aren't worth the money.
I'm afraid you're mistaken. Whether they are worth the money or not is up to you but they do work and there was no trickery in the video.
@@BagsUnlimitedRochester
I've been playing records since the 70s as a young teenager and still do as an old fart and never used one of these stat guns. Seriously, what a piece of crap preying on those that will believe in this con!
@@Stringbean421, if you've never used one then you probably don't know how well they work. Perhaps you've been missing out all these years.Maybe you should give it a try and make your record listening experience all the better.
@@BagsUnlimitedRochester
Um,..No , I won't try one because I've not been missing out on anything after 40 years of playing records with zero problems regarding static. This is a gadget that is money for old rope and I feel genuinly sorry for those that fall for this scam!!
, Scam is a pretty inflammatory word. Perhaps you should try one before making such accusations. You'd probably be surprised by what it's capable of. Thanks for your comments.
This is why I changed to CD in mid 80s.
And then I got back to vinyl again because of the CD/digital loudness war.
your loss my friend,,,just saying
Wish it wasn’t biased, all he talks about is stuff he sells.
What specifically would you like us to talk about, Michael? We don't really have hands on experience with products we do not sell. Let us know. Thanks.
What a horrendous pain in the ass to listen to a record!! This is why CDs won over people!! The best turntable systems sound the best but this is too much!!!
All of these steps aren't necessary every time one listens to a record. Ideally, once the record has had an initial proper cleaning, only minimal maintenance is needed with each consecutive listen. There can be quite a few steps when listening to vinyl but it's a labor of live.