Wow great info on the life of the charge! I was caught having to call for help when I didnt have enough charge to get back after a long ride, and my lights said still good. Nobody told me this when they gave me the chair! Now I understand.
I have 3-wheel Pride GoGo scooter and upgraded to lithium batteries. The process was not difficult. After the upgrade I found the throttle more responsive, the torque improved, the range increased and the scooter was able to go up inclines more easily. The lithium batteries are much lighter than the original batteries. However, I found this caused an unforeseen problem. With reduced battery weight the scooter is now more feels more unstable. Not to the point of being dangerous but I must be aware of that fact all the times. Ex: I used to be able travel across the grass in my front yard, now this is more difficult as the scooter is more tippy. The road in front of my house, which is on a small circle of houses so there is little traffic, there are places where the pavement is crowned to shed water. I try to avoid these areas as the scooter feels very unstable. I don’t want to go back to the original batteries but I find I must monitor the travel surface very closely. Quick turns use to not be a problem but now turns need to be planned. I do not know what the result would be with a 4-wheel scooter.
That is quite interesting, I don't think we have ever heard of such a drastic difference in stability. I do think that the 4-wheel scooters won't have as much of a notable difference if any. Thank you for your comment and testimony, definitely be careful!
Tipping over is definitely an issue with the 3 wheel Go go scooter. My parents have tipped over several times. Fortunately they did not get hurt but are now afraid to drive it. I kind figured out the reason and the battery weight does affect the center of gravity. 4 wheels won’t tip. So 1. The rider hunches over too much will cause more weight to be in front and there be easier to tip n a turn, so forcing rider to sit as far back helps. Setting the steering wheel a bit back helped 2. The lower the seat, the better for center of gravity, I drilled holes on the seat post and cut it so that the seat is about an inch or so lower. 3 so yes, a lighter battery will make it worse- perhaps adding weight to it with bags of sand would help
Point of clarification: LiPo (a.k.a. Lithium Polymer) refers to a physical phase of the electrolyte in the battery and not the chemistry. The battery chemistry is LiFePO4 (or LFP). The longer term is Lithium-Iron-Phosphate. Various lithium chemistries have different charge and discharge curves and therefore require different chargers (or charger profiles). Note also the LiFePO4 has a flatter discharge curve than other common Lithium battery chemistries and is more likely to recover from abuse (low discharge) than other Lithium battery chemistries.
Short answer is yes. SLA batteries and lithium batteries have their own dedicated charger. Thanks for watching the video and commenting. We appreciate the support @jeffb5463!
I have a Shoprider Cadiz mobility scooter with 2 35ah 12v AGM batteries in atm & want to replace them with lithium. What size lithium batteries should i get pl? & the charger would be ? :ove the video btw :)
Glad you like it! We try to be as informative as possible for our viewers as well! Thanks for watching our video and commenting! We appreciate the support.
Any experience with Solax Foladable Mobility Scooters? Ever had one open and looked @ the lithium battery pack? Was hoping to replace the batteries in the pack.
Yes, we're very familiar with the Solax scooters! However, the lithium battery packs are a complete assembly and have to be replaced as a whole battery/box assembly
Hi Sergio been watching and learning a lot from your videos thank you! I’ve been very keen on the zero turn model but wanted to confirm whether the jazzy zero turn is the same as the zero turn 8? I’ve seen both here in the Uk and seen some that say jazzy zero turn 8 too. Sometimes they mix up the photos too so i’m confused if they’re the same or not
Sorry if this is a daft question, but would going from the standard batteries to Lithium increase the speed too? Assuming there are no other limiting factors such as sensors etc. Disability is getting worse but i still like speed 😅
Hi @themanofteasituation8908! Changing to lithium batteries does not change the maximum speed of a mobility scooter or power wheelchair. But it makes them last longer when you use them.
When removing the cables, if you push the cable itself forward and pull back on the white plastic insulator, the locking tab gets pushed down and is a lot easier to remove.
Hello I have a question, I'm trying to charge my mobility scooter battery using my petrol inverter, but after around 10min of charging the charger started to smoke so I unplugged. I can't find anyone anywhere inn the world that can help me, I'm disabled and all I want to be able to do is get out of the town where I live and go camping, it probably sounds crazy but bring stuck to one place all the time gets me down. I'll add photos of the charger and inverter or maybe you can suggest something I could buy from you thanks for reading even if you can't help thanks Richard.
Hi Richard. You can try to reach out to our experts at 888-263-5601 so we can either recommend you some parts you can get for your scooter at the very least. But it's a good move to start reaching out to the dealership where you got the scooter so you can have it checked especially if it is still under warranty.
Why does the distribution of this scooter recommend you DO NOT CHANGE TO LITHIUM BATTERY.On your sight l asked the question if l change to lithium battery do l need to change the battery indicator the response was changing to lithium batteries Will damage the scooter and void the warranty.Please advise this is very important information Thank You. Andrew
The lithium batteries won't damage the scooter, but unfortunately, the manufacturer insists it will void the warranty. The best thing to do is just wait until the warranty is over and then switch to lithium.
@@MobilityDirect I made a pigtail on a. In dash,( digital voltmeter) and I just plug it into my charging port but I'm an electrician and I do stuff like this it gives an accurate battery reading, more accurate than the gauge.
@@ronalddaub5008 How about if the batteries suddenly wont charge? My lithium chargers charge light isn’t coming on? I did let the scooter suddenly stop. Forgot to charge it. Are these new lithium batteries trashed now? Help please! Mr electrician.
Knowing about lithium batteries like I do. They are pulse charged meaning they shut on and off on and off on and off while they're being charged at a high rate of speed to keep them from catching on fire. Now my next question is if the scooter has regenerative braking which is designed for lead acid battery. What's going to keep the batteries from becoming a big torch when you're going downhill
@@MobilityDirect i understand... however there won't be any pulse bit instead a steady charge that it was giving the LA batteries during the regenerative braking .. this would probably be ok on a short burst basis.. Im thinking about climbing a hill and then heading downward for an extended period of time..
We've tested lithium batteries on big bridges, and used a infrared thermometer to test the temperature of the battery, never have we noticed anything alarming.
What we sell are LifePo4 batteries and they are very safe. We have not had one scenario where a LifePo4 battery caught fire. In the old days, lithium batteries were made with Lithium Ion chemistry, which is what was prone to catching fire. These are not made with Lithium Ion, they are made with Lithium Iron Phosphate. Thanks for watching @dougcunningham1449!
Can I convert to these lithium on a Quantum 4 front2 hd..I have MK AGM 12v 70ah in it now. Does this change out effect the controller or any other functions
We recommend that you give our parts department a call so they can check it for you and help you find the upgrade that will work for your mobility scooter. Please feel free to give our parts department a call at (877) 321-3241
can i put drill batteries in one if i make sure the voltage adds up? i have 40v batteries and i have the 12v converters, i use them for many other applications just fine
Sergio I just bought 2 12V 18Ah lithium batteries from Mobility Direct last November and only used them once. I went to use my scooter on a grassy patch of land during a New Year’s Eve 2023 light festival and it died right after I drove it a few yards. So I hope I didn’t ruin the batteries because when I got home I plugged in the lithium charger and the charge light is not coming on! Are the batteries dead for good? Please help!!
No the charge light never came on. I opened the battery case and checked the level and they read at 13.2 amps. Do you think if I hook up a variable dc power supply to bring it up some and retry the charger that it will take a charge?
I have a drive scout battery. I LOVE YOUR VID. How can I order those for my scooter? I use my scooter like a car. I got scooter used was very dissapointed in the range I got with the regular batteries that come with the scout. So can you please let me know who I need to contact?
When I plug my charger into the charging port, even though not plug in, my scooter beeps and will not drive. If I connect the new meter via xlr into the port, will I still get the beep and the scooter will not drive? Is there something I need to change or setting to bypass?
You may want to check the manual for the beep codes and pay attention how many beeps your scooter makes. Most scooters has beep codes that you can diagnose as it usually tells you what the problem is. Thanks for watching our video and commenting. Don't forget to subscribe for a chance to win a free mobility scooter.
Thanks for watching our video and commenting! While it doesn't have a lithium battery upgrade option upon checkout, you can order lithium batteries after purchase. On that note, you can check out this video about getting the correct batteries: th-cam.com/video/I0jPqGw-S5I/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=MobilityDirect Don't forget to subscribe for a chance to win a free mobility scooter!
I could definitely use one I been with pride mobility for 2 years through American Lyft chairs in that time I have not used my scooter once but it's costing me 3500 for the chair there refusing to refund I was not even asked a weight limit has anyone else had this same issue
@@MobilityDirect my health insurance is paying for my mobility scooter. I just have to cover my copay . Wold they pay for the upgrades? I don’t have a minimum to purchase a unit !
We have upgraded a few different Pride scooters with lithium, however, the UK models are different from our US models, so the scooters we upgrade are named differently :)
Its the bes velcro i ever seen , i had a hard time also, Im in need of upgraded batteries. i am tired of buying the original kind.they onlylast mee about 6 months.
@RednecksGoneWild For parts-related inquiries, it's best if you call our parts department, so they can accurately answer your question. You can call them at (877) 321-3241. Also, you can fill out the parts request form on this page for a quicker response: www.mobilityscootersdirect.com/parts-request
Wow great info on the life of the charge! I was caught having to call for help when I didnt have enough charge to get back after a long ride, and my lights said still good. Nobody told me this when they gave me the chair! Now I understand.
Glad you liked the video. Thanks for watching our video and commenting! We appreciate the support.
This is such an explicatory video on lithium battery conversions!!!
Learned a lot Thank you for all the videos you and your team upload. Also appreciate the Video Chapters on the Description.
I have 3-wheel Pride GoGo scooter and upgraded to lithium batteries. The process was not difficult. After the upgrade I found the throttle more responsive, the torque improved, the range increased and the scooter was able to go up inclines more easily. The lithium batteries are much lighter than the original batteries. However, I found this caused an unforeseen problem. With reduced battery weight the scooter is now more feels more unstable. Not to the point of being dangerous but I must be aware of that fact all the times. Ex: I used to be able travel across the grass in my front yard, now this is more difficult as the scooter is more tippy. The road in front of my house, which is on a small circle of houses so there is little traffic, there are places where the pavement is crowned to shed water. I try to avoid these areas as the scooter feels very unstable. I don’t want to go back to the original batteries but I find I must monitor the travel surface very closely. Quick turns use to not be a problem but now turns need to be planned. I do not know what the result would be with a 4-wheel scooter.
That is quite interesting, I don't think we have ever heard of such a drastic difference in stability. I do think that the 4-wheel scooters won't have as much of a notable difference if any. Thank you for your comment and testimony, definitely be careful!
Tipping over is definitely an issue with the 3 wheel Go go scooter. My parents have tipped over several times. Fortunately they did not get hurt but are now afraid to drive it. I kind figured out the reason and the battery weight does affect the center of gravity. 4 wheels won’t tip. So 1. The rider hunches over too much will cause more weight to be in front and there be easier to tip n a turn, so forcing rider to sit as far back helps. Setting the steering wheel a bit back helped 2. The lower the seat, the better for center of gravity, I drilled holes on the seat post and cut it so that the seat is about an inch or so lower. 3 so yes, a lighter battery will make it worse- perhaps adding weight to it with bags of sand would help
@@tongmovies you have to use the descresion on anything
@@tonyrodriguez9163 Not really. At best may be a tenth of a mile per hour.
Point of clarification: LiPo (a.k.a. Lithium Polymer) refers to a physical phase of the electrolyte in the battery and not the chemistry. The battery chemistry is LiFePO4 (or LFP). The longer term is Lithium-Iron-Phosphate. Various lithium chemistries have different charge and discharge curves and therefore require different chargers (or charger profiles). Note also the LiFePO4 has a flatter discharge curve than other common Lithium battery chemistries and is more likely to recover from abuse (low discharge) than other Lithium battery chemistries.
@Bonjour-World That's awesome. Thanks for sharing and watching our video. We appreciate it!
That's fantastic! You're amazing. My scooter no longer holds a charge and the batteries cost almost as much as scooter did.😥
@rhondamorse2669 Thanks for watching our video and commenting! We appreciate the support.
Great video. I'm still a little unclear on one thing. Do you need to swithch to a charger specific to lithium batteries?
Short answer is yes. SLA batteries and lithium batteries have their own dedicated charger. Thanks for watching the video and commenting. We appreciate the support @jeffb5463!
Very good video! The music is a tad to high in volyme tough, just some feedback. Content is educational and good!
Thanks for watching and the input!
Great job, I would have lost the screws! LOL
I have a Shoprider Cadiz mobility scooter with 2 35ah 12v AGM batteries in atm & want to replace them with lithium. What size lithium batteries should i get pl? & the charger would be ? :ove the video btw :)
Please give our parts department a call and they'll help you out (877) 321-3241
Great support and educational information.
Glad you like it! We try to be as informative as possible for our viewers as well! Thanks for watching our video and commenting! We appreciate the support.
Any experience with Solax Foladable Mobility Scooters? Ever had one open and looked @ the lithium battery pack? Was hoping to replace the batteries in the pack.
Yes, we're very familiar with the Solax scooters! However, the lithium battery packs are a complete assembly and have to be replaced as a whole battery/box assembly
Hi Sergio been watching and learning a lot from your videos thank you! I’ve been very keen on the zero turn model but wanted to confirm whether the jazzy zero turn is the same as the zero turn 8? I’ve seen both here in the Uk and seen some that say jazzy zero turn 8 too. Sometimes they mix up the photos too so i’m confused if they’re the same or not
Yes they are the same. Thank you for the support! I'm glad your are enjoying the content.
Amazing Video Very Informative!Thank you so much!
Excellent service
We strive to be the best!
Sorry if this is a daft question, but would going from the standard batteries to Lithium increase the speed too? Assuming there are no other limiting factors such as sensors etc. Disability is getting worse but i still like speed 😅
Hi @themanofteasituation8908! Changing to lithium batteries does not change the maximum speed of a mobility scooter or power wheelchair. But it makes them last longer when you use them.
When removing the cables, if you push the cable itself forward and pull back on the white plastic insulator, the locking tab gets pushed down and is a lot easier to remove.
Thanks for the tip!
As far as the meter can you replace the sla meter with a meter from a OEM scooter that has lithium batteries?
No, but you can get battery meters for lithium batteries online. For lithium battery upgrades, you can give our parts team a call at (877) 321-3241.
Hello I have a question, I'm trying to charge my mobility scooter battery using my petrol inverter, but after around 10min of charging the charger started to smoke so I unplugged. I can't find anyone anywhere inn the world that can help me, I'm disabled and all I want to be able to do is get out of the town where I live and go camping, it probably sounds crazy but bring stuck to one place all the time gets me down.
I'll add photos of the charger and inverter or maybe you can suggest something I could buy from you thanks for reading even if you can't help thanks Richard.
Hi Richard. You can try to reach out to our experts at 888-263-5601 so we can either recommend you some parts you can get for your scooter at the very least. But it's a good move to start reaching out to the dealership where you got the scooter so you can have it checked especially if it is still under warranty.
Why does the distribution of this scooter recommend you DO NOT CHANGE TO LITHIUM BATTERY.On your sight l asked the question if l change to lithium battery do l need to change the battery indicator the response was changing to lithium batteries Will damage the scooter and void the warranty.Please advise this is very important information
Thank You.
Andrew
The lithium batteries won't damage the scooter, but unfortunately, the manufacturer insists it will void the warranty. The best thing to do is just wait until the warranty is over and then switch to lithium.
can i use a motorcycle battery with same voltage and amps.?
I can't say I would recommend it, especially if it is still under warranty.
@@MobilityDirect regardless of the warranty..will the motorcycle battery will be compatible for replacement instead..
@@gamma200 it will work... I have even used slightly larger lawn mower batteries as long as the voltage @ amperage is same ,approx. okay you're good
When changing to lithium batteries do you need to change the battery indicator.please advise Thank You
To get the most accurate read, yes, we are continuously searching for a solution! :)
@@MobilityDirect I made a pigtail on a. In dash,( digital voltmeter) and I just plug it into my charging port but I'm an electrician and I do stuff like this it gives an accurate battery reading, more accurate than the gauge.
@@ronalddaub5008
How about if the batteries suddenly wont charge? My lithium chargers charge light isn’t coming on? I did let the scooter suddenly stop. Forgot to charge it. Are these new lithium batteries trashed now? Help please! Mr electrician.
@@ronalddaub5008 can iask what part #`s you used
thanks Rick
Knowing about lithium batteries like I do. They are pulse charged meaning they shut on and off on and off on and off while they're being charged at a high rate of speed to keep them from catching on fire. Now my next question is if the scooter has regenerative braking which is designed for lead acid battery. What's going to keep the batteries from becoming a big torch when you're going downhill
lithium batteries run cooler. I wouldnt say regenerative braking is exclusive to lead-acid batteries. Look at electric cars...
@@MobilityDirect i understand... however there won't be any pulse bit instead a steady charge that it was giving the LA batteries during the regenerative braking .. this would probably be ok on a short burst basis.. Im thinking about climbing a hill and then heading downward for an extended period of time..
We've tested lithium batteries on big bridges, and used a infrared thermometer to test the temperature of the battery, never have we noticed anything alarming.
@@MobilityDirect thats good to know ... thanks for the info
Can you do the same with an EWheels EW18?
Give our Parts department a call to see if it's compatible! (877) 321-3241
yea you can put Lithium batterys in a mobility scooter, but the ? is it safe, i been told by several they are and alot say no they are not safe
What we sell are LifePo4 batteries and they are very safe. We have not had one scenario where a LifePo4 battery caught fire. In the old days, lithium batteries were made with Lithium Ion chemistry, which is what was prone to catching fire. These are not made with Lithium Ion, they are made with Lithium Iron Phosphate. Thanks for watching @dougcunningham1449!
Nice ride
Thank for watching our video and commenting @hanishakarchi !
Can I convert to these lithium on a Quantum 4 front2 hd..I have MK AGM 12v 70ah in it now. Does this change out effect the controller or any other functions
We recommend that you give our parts department a call so they can check it for you and help you find the upgrade that will work for your mobility scooter. Please feel free to give our parts department a call at (877) 321-3241
Lithium could easily go in it, As a standard Car battery could 😃 I've done that to a Mobility scooter here and it runs great
Awesome, its so much better to use Lithium batteries. They're better in all aspects aside from the price. Although, they last 3 times as long!
@@MobilityDirect Agree'd, Lithium are much lighter in weight, But holy shit they're expensive
can i put drill batteries in one if i make sure the voltage adds up? i have 40v batteries and i have the 12v converters, i use them for many other applications just fine
I mean.... Technically, 24 volts is 24 volts. That doesn't mean I recommended or condone it.
Do these require a new battery indicator? If so what do you recommend?
Yes, you can use any 24 volt LifePo4 meter. They seem to have a few options on Amazon
How much for two 18amp batteries, plus the plug in meter posted to 48015? Will these work in the heavy duty Victory models as well, i.e. 3-10.2?
Sergio I just bought 2 12V 18Ah lithium batteries from Mobility Direct last November and only used them once. I went to use my scooter on a grassy patch of land during a New Year’s Eve 2023 light festival and it died right after I drove it a few yards. So I hope I didn’t ruin the batteries because when I got home I plugged in the lithium charger and the charge light is not coming on! Are the batteries dead for good? Please help!!
The BMS system is probably just engaged. Have you left it charging for a few hours?
No the charge light never came on. I opened the battery case and checked the level and they read at 13.2 amps. Do you think if I hook up a variable dc power supply to bring it up some and retry the charger that it will take a charge?
I have a drive scout battery. I LOVE YOUR VID. How can I order those for my scooter? I use my scooter like a car. I got scooter used was very dissapointed in the range I got with the regular batteries that come with the scout. So can you please let me know who I need to contact?
The Scouts don't take lithium batteries.
😢@@MobilityDirect
When I plug my charger into the charging port, even though not plug in, my scooter beeps and will not drive. If I connect the new meter via xlr into the port, will I still get the beep and the scooter will not drive? Is there something I need to change or setting to bypass?
You may want to check the manual for the beep codes and pay attention how many beeps your scooter makes. Most scooters has beep codes that you can diagnose as it usually tells you what the problem is. Thanks for watching our video and commenting. Don't forget to subscribe for a chance to win a free mobility scooter.
Can the Pride Victory 10 be upgraded to lithium
Thanks for watching our video and commenting! While it doesn't have a lithium battery upgrade option upon checkout, you can order lithium batteries after purchase. On that note, you can check out this video about getting the correct batteries:
th-cam.com/video/I0jPqGw-S5I/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=MobilityDirect
Don't forget to subscribe for a chance to win a free mobility scooter!
Could have lipo batery
GOOD JOB YOU SHOULD GET A RAISE LOL
I'll pass it along 😎
Great video. Is there a lithium conversioin kit for a Golden, Buazaround GB148EX scooter?
We just started working on lithium upgrades for Golden scooters! Give our Parts department a call to see if there's a compatible upgrade: 877-321-3241
I could definitely use one I been with pride mobility for 2 years through American Lyft chairs in that time I have not used my scooter once but it's costing me 3500 for the chair there refusing to refund I was not even asked a weight limit has anyone else had this same issue
Just subscribe and you could be the next winner!
We’re can I buy the batteries and charger?
At our Parts Department: 877-321-3241
@@MobilityDirect my health insurance is paying for my mobility scooter. I just have to cover my copay . Wold they pay for the upgrades? I don’t have a minimum to purchase a unit !
I am in San Diego
never leave home without the charger!!
Have you changed the batteries in a Pride Apex Rapid (with the18ah larger battery box) to lithium?
We have upgraded a few different Pride scooters with lithium, however, the UK models are different from our US models, so the scooters we upgrade are named differently :)
is the store in chicago ill
We have two stores in South Florida, but we ship to all 50 states!
You look like Uncle Drew... Kyrie Irving.
I could see the similarities, especially in the beard and hairstyle.
the eyes too esp from a far.
Its the bes velcro i ever seen , i had a hard time also, Im in need of upgraded batteries. i am tired of buying the original kind.they onlylast mee about 6 months.
@RednecksGoneWild For parts-related inquiries, it's best if you call our parts department, so they can accurately answer your question. You can call them at (877) 321-3241. Also, you can fill out the parts request form on this page for a quicker response:
www.mobilityscootersdirect.com/parts-request