I got loads of data on horse racing to try to make a system, over a long period of time. They tend to just go wrong when you up the stakes. It would be best to model how the price moves pre off or in play and use that to automate stuff. That's what I did.
@@anymantrading I just mean that systems tend to go south when you put them into effect with real money. I just recorded where the price starts, where it ends up, how high and low it goes over a given time period and things like that. If you are talking about data in horse racing it is best to concentrate on things like that. I use bet angel to do it.
Nice to see the Boxings going well, didn’t realise you seriously traded that? Regards the horse racing trading, what’s your average daily profit doing it manually? I find horses the best thing to trade as the frequency of races everyday it’s possible to squeeze a bit out of every market to make up a decent days wages. I’ve looked into the data led angles before through RBD, we obviously if we could automate a similar profit that would be great, it’s never got close to my profits if trading manually however. I see a lot of the RBD fans on twitter thinking they have the golden goose but from what I can gather they are just using a high risk method with a very high strike rate….. looks impressive short term but not 100% convinced they have a genuine edge over the market.
box office fights are so infrequent but yes I do bet when they're on. I'm surprised you haven't been able to scale up profits from having detailed data at your disposal. At first glance, I feel it will atleast assist my manual trading. A long way to go yet for me on that front but time will tell...
Ah yes, liquidity has always been poor in boxing I’ve found. As you say though, your strike rate is so high, you wouldn’t need to be getting absolutely huge prices to be profitable simply value betting them. I found with in running data, it’s very hard to consistently program when A does B, do C! I feel horse racing is more dynamic than that so having an edge through being a good race reader can’t be replicated. I probably haven’t spent enough time on it testing etc… One thing I do agree on, is that it helped my manual trading massively using data….. the early trap was having a set idea about the race because of the data and not actually reacting to what was happening in the race, sort of fell in love with the data led trade. That cost me but once ironed out, it was a massive help
Good one again. Any thoughts on the Cricket World Cup? im making some profit on first games by laying first batting team , my thoughts being that noone really knew how the wickets would play but that plug-in pitches would always be troublesome, as proved.
thanks Stuart. Not much of an opinion thus far, a few low scoring games so complete 180 from the IPL trading wise! West Indies looked like a good outside punt to win but after struggling against PNG, it's abit up in the air for now.
1:44 - Liquidity just in general is killing off Betfair, these affordability checks are destroying the platform Not everybody wants to show there bank statements etc
If you're a profitable trader, these affordability checks shouldn't affect you. Your bank shouldn't be falling so much that you would need to be redepositing so much.
Another great video.. Nice listening to your trading journey. Keep up the uploads!!
Glad you enjoyed it, I'll certainly be sharing more updates when they come.
Good video, keep them coming, will be good to see how things pan out with your data led approach to horse racing.
Thanks Graeme! I look forward to sharing updates when they come.
Great content as always please keep posting
Thanks for watching, I shall!
Great stuff
I got loads of data on horse racing to try to make a system, over a long period of time. They tend to just go wrong when you up the stakes. It would be best to model how the price moves pre off or in play and use that to automate stuff. That's what I did.
Unless staking is too big to get matched, why would staking ruin the system? I wouldn't know how to model moves pre off. How did you do that?
@@anymantrading I just mean that systems tend to go south when you put them into effect with real money. I just recorded where the price starts, where it ends up, how high and low it goes over a given time period and things like that. If you are talking about data in horse racing it is best to concentrate on things like that. I use bet angel to do it.
Nice to see the Boxings going well, didn’t realise you seriously traded that? Regards the horse racing trading, what’s your average daily profit doing it manually? I find horses the best thing to trade as the frequency of races everyday it’s possible to squeeze a bit out of every market to make up a decent days wages.
I’ve looked into the data led angles before through RBD, we obviously if we could automate a similar profit that would be great, it’s never got close to my profits if trading manually however. I see a lot of the RBD fans on twitter thinking they have the golden goose but from what I can gather they are just using a high risk method with a very high strike rate….. looks impressive short term but not 100% convinced they have a genuine edge over the market.
box office fights are so infrequent but yes I do bet when they're on.
I'm surprised you haven't been able to scale up profits from having detailed data at your disposal. At first glance, I feel it will atleast assist my manual trading. A long way to go yet for me on that front but time will tell...
Ah yes, liquidity has always been poor in boxing I’ve found. As you say though, your strike rate is so high, you wouldn’t need to be getting absolutely huge prices to be profitable simply value betting them.
I found with in running data, it’s very hard to consistently program when A does B, do C! I feel horse racing is more dynamic than that so having an edge through being a good race reader can’t be replicated. I probably haven’t spent enough time on it testing etc…
One thing I do agree on, is that it helped my manual trading massively using data….. the early trap was having a set idea about the race because of the data and not actually reacting to what was happening in the race, sort of fell in love with the data led trade. That cost me but once ironed out, it was a massive help
Good one again.
Any thoughts on the Cricket World Cup? im making some profit on first games by laying first batting team , my thoughts being that noone really knew how the wickets would play but that plug-in pitches would always be troublesome, as proved.
thanks Stuart. Not much of an opinion thus far, a few low scoring games so complete 180 from the IPL trading wise! West Indies looked like a good outside punt to win but after struggling against PNG, it's abit up in the air for now.
1:44 - Liquidity just in general is killing off Betfair, these affordability checks are destroying the platform
Not everybody wants to show there bank statements etc
thats why I switched to a betting broker 2 years ago, never looked back
@@GNMbg you mean like betting private/black market?
But you only have to look at the Cricket markets, and the liquidity is huge.
@@stuartwallace7536 it used to be even bigger than that
If you're a profitable trader, these affordability checks shouldn't affect you. Your bank shouldn't be falling so much that you would need to be redepositing so much.