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8:20 Confidence and the British in the context of foreign policy is a joke. in 1939' most trusted the allies, never again. Later, it wasn't America or the British that drove the Germans out. they are Russians, their blood, their sacrifice. it's because of Russian that I don't call my sister "Schwester" and my father "Fater" - how similar is German to English;) you can see who is whose friend who is related to whom. You Atlanteans know how to trade. but this precludes truthfulness, trust and faithfulness to one's word. away from the Atlantic world. Many Poles think so.
Rob,to ur last words money could be wasted on this stuff. We can lend-lease,sell even but having massive equipment is also helping making bussiness and having more infuence . Bussiness needs protection:)
We are not scared 😅we live near Russia for the past 1000 years. We know them well and know that better be overprepared than not prepared at all. We know we must survive for ourselves and can't count on anybody else.
Yeah- like that time in WWII; what French and British governments did? They declared war and... stopped there... "if you can count, count on yourself" plus if U are armed, the thief will think at least twice before attacking U.
True. Our "friends" in the western EU have shown repeatedly that when we get attacked they wont help us by sending their troops. Therefore we are preparing for war
The distances from Warsaw to Moscow and Warsaw to Brussels are equal. The sign makes this point: Poland is not East or West. Poland is at the centre of European civilization. It has contributed mightily to that civilization ... - Ronald Reagan
Poland is arming itself not to fight with Russia, but to show that attacking Poland is not worth it. According to the principle of Si vis pacem, para bellum. In addition to the military equipment mentioned in the video, Poland is ordering a lot more weapons. Recently, an order was placed for 1,000 Borsuk infantry fighting vehicles, which will be produced in Poland. Additionally, the US Congress has approved the sale of 500 HIMARS with missiles, including ATACMS missiles with a range of 300km. If all of this military equipment reaches Poland, I think Poland will be safe. And that's what it's all about - avoiding war. There is another aspect to this matter - a more political one. There are many smaller, weaker countries that are also threatened. And here they have to rely on the help of other, stronger countries. Poland, having a strong army, will be able to guarantee military protection to other countries. This could make Poland a leader in this part of Europe. As a result, Poland will be stronger in the international arena, including within the European Union. Great video btw.
The himars cant be supplied in a realistic time frame thats why they went with korean ones , just havent found out yet how many it gives a figure in the media but that doesnt say whether its 200+ launchers or 200+ launchers and support vehicles so roughly 100 launchers and 100 ammo/ reload vehicles but i think they still ordered or plan to order himars as well just not as many
@@michaelheather8469 The US Congress did actually approve the sale of 20 HIMARS systems and around 500 launcher units, because Poland wants to mount them on its own Jelcz-type trucks. Even if Poland does not order all 500 units, but only 200-300, together with 218 Korean systems, which have twice as many launchers as HIMARS, it will be a great firepower.
500 HIMARS -> political game for the public. The Polish government is out of money now so I don't know why they are talking about such amounts of weaponry. Second, the public mood is very disappointed with the current government. Too much corruption and it's even public corruption. EU doesn't want to give money to Poland because of the laws there. The coal power plants starting to become too much expensive because of the taxes that the EU applies for such not economic paths. The government told they will build 2 or 3 nuclear power plants. Who will pay for it? Poland is not that rich. Everything is just the public game that will allow the transfer of money from the Poland budget to their private accounts ;) The mood in Poland's military is also not so great because of the political internal actions. You are just evaluating the political "promises" and fairy tales.
@@kamil411x Bot algorithm fail you. Lack of money is in the failed social politics. Not the military. Those reforms were planed way before the war in Ukraine. It is just that Germans were causing pointless delays.
About Poland choosing the West. It's not like we had that idea few decades ago and now we are trying to realize it. It's more like we trying to live good with West for like thousand years. In 966 we adopted Christianity, we adopted latin alphabet, we mention Napoleon in our national anthem and we were allied to British and French during WW2 etc. We always trying to have good relation with western countries, learn from them, adopt some of their ideas just to make Poland better place to live, but Russia is trying to stop us every time. They want to make Poland their sphere of influence. They don't have high standards of living, they don't have money, they don't have edge cutting technologies, so none sane Pole would choose Russia over the West. Russian are basically out of options and they can only apply pressure and when it isn't enough they will use force to enforce their vision of Europe. This exactly what is happening to Ukraine right now and that's why we support Ukrainians, because they are experiencing the same thing that was happening to us for like hundreds of years.
Weź się za poważne studiowanie historii, myśli politycznej, cywilizacji, krótko mówiąc naucz się dojrzałego patrzenia na świat. Nie obraź się ale Twoje spostrzeganie świata jest infantylne i niestety nie jesteś sam bo tak nas się od kołyski tresuje. Żeby nie było niejasności, nie piszę tego żeby Cię obrazić czy zdołować, zwyczajnie nasza polska dobroduszność i ufność (siostra naiwności) zgubi nasz naród.
_"They don't have high standards of living, they don't have money, they don't have edge cutting technologies, so none sane Pole would choose Russia over the West"_ **** It's not even a matter of things you mentioned. Russian rule (and the Poles have had a "taste" of it) is the rule of idiots, *with whom nothing can be done* even if the essence of their rule is the country's regress in every respect. Backwardness of civilization. Even if you are one of these idiots, that is, you're lucky, you aren't lucky, because you're not sure of your life. Other idiots can arrest you, poison you, execute you, they can evaporate you. This is an indescribable nightmare that no normal person wants to live in. Even high technology and standard of living cannot compensate for this. Poles aren't used to having no say in their lives. Russians are.
A możesz rozwinąć swoją wypowiedź? Bo właściwie nic nie powiedziałeś poza "Doucz się bo naiwny jesteś", tyle że uprzejmie. A w wyniku takiego "douczania" się można w różne miejsca zawędrować.
It's not that we are "joining the West", we are the West. The doubts are coming from the fact that we are poor. As soon as the Polish GDP per capita is comparable to French or German, there will be no doubt about where we are.
"We in Poland know it full well that today Georgia, tomorrow Ukraine, the day after tomorrow the Baltic states and then maybe it's time for my country, Poland." -- Lech Kaczyński, President of Poland in his speech in Tbilisi , August 12th 2008. Imagine if the world had listened to him back then... No nation knows the Russians better than us. No nation knows how Russians think and fight better than us. No nation knows the weaknesses of Russia better than us. And no nation apart from Poland has conquered Moscow and left out of their own free will. Let them come!
@@ripLunarBirdCLH Sam oprzytomnij. Ale do tego trzeba znać historię. Cytowanie Lecha Kaczyńskiego..Jak tak bardzo chcecie się bic z Rosją, to jazda na Ukrainę. Jeśli Rosja nadal chce Polskę podbić, to Niemcy nadal chcą nas spalić w krematoriach. A tu masz..w UE z nimi jesteśmy, do pracy jeździmy. Można? Zostawcie w spokoju wreszcie Rosję. Dość machania szabelką. To Ukraina jest naszym - gospodarczym - wrogiem.
When the day of trial comes, Poland will find out whether the "great and wonderful" west will sell it, as during World War II. World War II showed how much Poland can trust Western leaders, for whom their own business is the most important thing.
It is literally why most of that is intended to be made on Polish soil bot boy. West at least don't shoot in the back of they own allies, unlike some Chinese colony.
Ani Ty, ani ja, o nic (jeszcze) nie walczyilśmy, wstawianie tego cytatu wszędzie jest takim cringem, że szok. Nie jesteśmy tym samym społeczeńśtwem co nasi dziadkowie, czy pradziadkowie.
@@maxalbon9557 dlatego rządzący z tym społeczeństwem robią sobie co chcą. Skąd wiesz, że nie walczyłem? W dzisiejszych realiach ten cytat raczej nie będzie odnosił się do udziału w "wielkiej, romantycznej" wojnie, tylko w sukcesach codziennego życia, walki o lepszą przyszłość dla siebie i rodziny.
@@maxalbon9557 Radziłbym powściągliwość w wyrażaniu takich tez. Walka o wolność toczyła się również po wojnie. W czasie minionego systemu ludzie również ginęli z rąk opresyjnego aparatu władzy. Ja miałem 22 lata gdy pierwszy raz odbyły się wolne wybory w Polsce. W młodym wieku poznałem " umiejętności " Służby Bezpieczeństwa. To tylko taka drobna sugestia.
I lived in the UK for the last 20 years and my look at what was going on in Poland was blurred. Even before I left I always criticized Poland's military spending and always said it was way too high and it's not needed in our modern times. But now I realize how wrong I was, Since the day one Putin sat in Kremlin chair I knew he would cause trouble but I didn't think it would be to this extent. Now I cheer for Poland's military modernization, I agree with what they say - 'we need to be strong enough so that no one will even consider attacking us'. I agree with what you said, it is Europe's frontline and I think it is a shame they don't get any support in what they're doing and countries like Germany are just putting more bumps under their feet. I'm here in the UK so the danger is much smaller here, but at the end of the day wouldn't it be better to stop the threat a thousand miles away rather than having them close enough to be able to shoot directly at us? On the other hand, just like with Ukraine, if any country from Baltic States, through Czech Rep., Slovakia, and even Hungary or Romania got attacked, where would they turn their heads to first? Since the WW2 Poland was always the biggest Hub of heavy armoured infantry and tanks and now it shows why it made sense. In numbers Poland gave Ukraine more tanks and heavy armoured vehicles than the rest of NATO combined. They may not have been top nudge technology but they were there, available immediately and often better than the Russian ones. All they do now is the upgrade so that if something breaks out again they'll have the best equipment to counter the threat.
Yeach , fresh meat - we can deliver planty of it . We have sold our industry - but we have a good meat for sale now . Just print some dollars and purchase it . Unfortunately the fridge is broken and we can not reapair it at the moment . But don't worry we deliver it somehow. Fresh meat , training not included.
1."Germany are just putting " - Putin'g ? Putin bought german cancelor Schr"o"der and build Nord Streamthen! Russian Gasprom is one of the biggest sponsor of german Bundesliega! They work together since many years! 2." I'm here in the UK so the danger is much smaller here," - did you ever heare about russian bomb "posejdon"?, so go and learn how to swim in UK/cold Atlantic!
Out alliance leaving us to our fate in 1939. Neither France nor England helped us. There was an alliance, but as it often happens with alliances (you can recognize them by their behavior), that's why Poland pays so much for its military now. We are in NATO, but we have to learn from history, we have had allies who were supposed to help us more than once :) If you want to count, count on yourself
Wrong, Ukraine was also showed some time ago as getting stronger, advanced, more and more powerful. You know what is the most stupid ? That scenario for UKR and Poland do match in 100%, as if it was written by the same person.
Poland has never tolerated Russia for obvious reasons and we want freedom and freedom very well and Russia is the antithesis of this word, that's why we want to have a great army to feel safe (You want peace, prepare for war) Greetings from Poland
For the first time since the partitions, i.e. since the 18th century, we have the opportunity to prepare ourselves to scare away. And that's what we're doing.
Paranoid? Well last 500 years of interaction with Russia learned us that, there is no such thing like enough arms. In Poland we like Latin quotes, “Si vis pacem, para bellum” since 90s I hears this constantly when we talk about Russia. I’m 33y old, same like Poland is independent, and it’s longest independence since 1795. Freedom and independence isn’t free, better to pay in zlotys than blood, again.
Do not push Poland for war against Russia. Every war Poland is helping Europe, but after war Polish bravery is forgoten. Only Poland is loosing, first protecting of Europe, second we do not have enough help.
Composition of this new army clearly suggests that Poland is preparing to fight war not on its territory. Previous assumptions were that Polish military defends country by alloiwng russians in and boxing them in couple of areas. However the brutality of russian soldiers, war crimes, systematic targeting of civillians etc. that repeats exaclty the same patterns as in last few hundred years made Poland change its mind. To fight on your own territory means untold atrocities commited by russians-both as policy and as consequence of their culture. Thus the only option is to prepare for war outside of Poland and for that you need much more powerful forces preared not for defense but for attack. Hence the massive build up. Additonally entire scheme of Putins attack was pointing out to what Poles feared the most and that is NATO guarantees are non-existent, no european country thinks strategically and they regard Russia as ally. In event of attack NATO would collapse and thats precisely that almost happend within first 24hours of russian attack, and why it is USA-UK-Poland axis that leads war effort, and everyone is there because they are forced by this trio. As consequence the only ally that Poland have is US, but US due to its commitement and different problems will not be able and willing to fight Russia alone and will not help if Poland cannot help itself. US needs 3 months at minimum to mvoe substantila forces to Europe. So the idea is to be able to fight Russia alone for long enough so that Americans will feel that they can and should help becuase it is doable and in line with their security concerns. This is what Ukrainians have done by preparing defense the way they did. They learned about this from Poles that in last 5 years had internal expert discussion about this very problem. They used this in practice and demonstrated that if you show to US that you can fight, they will help because no one is supporting a loosing side. In event of no support Poland wishes to have forces strong enough so that it alone will deter attack. If war comes, forces will be strong enough to punch so hard that peace agreement will save if not soverignty than at least substantial autonomy for the state. For all of that you need very big, very strong, very modern and very agressive military force capable of projecting itself well into Baltic States, Belarus and Ukraine. Also the behaviour of France and most importantly Germany clearily indicates their absolute wilingness to accept destruction of polish state and genocide of its people for the sake of pushing out americans out of continent with use of russian hands. they are not regarded as allies, but passive-agressive enemies. Strong army is supposed to force them to change that stance and in silent way to intimidate them especially Berlin and use their strategic ineptidue agaisnt them (they are afraid but happy that somebody elses spends money). I know this is all counter-intuitive and journalists do not talk about this, but journalists barely can tie their shoelaces. Trust me, EU-NATO is a can full of batshit crazy corrupted nutjobs that hate each other and are together only because US forced to during Cold War. All talk about "West" is nonsense in eyes of polish decision-makers. The beginning of video you are reacting to is example of this: when poles hear how much they were of help during WW2 their reactions is "yeah, and you didnt helped us, in fact you used us as meatshield, we got massacrated, then we had 4th biggest army fighting aginst Germany, we sacrficed everything, we created massive uprising, we smuggled V-2 rockets, cracjed enigma code, saved London and millions of jews, and then you done second betreyal during Yalta and accused us of antisemitism and racism (constant factor in your news). You are full of shit". Thats what Poles see and hear, but they rarely will say it out loud. They will smile and make happy face because you recognize them, but thats what they think inside. You want peac:e pe prepared for hell. And that no one will help you and in fact they will put a knife in your side and twist it while smiling and lying that they helped you so much. Thats polish experience with so called "west".
good job Rob,it's rare to see a foreign citizen understanding Poland and our mindset so well,your knowledge about us and our country is impressive mate
Just feel like I need to say this. Technically throughout most of its history, Poland was more western than eastern. You know, catholicism, Roman pope, similar intellectual and artistic currents and all that. It's the last 200 years that kind of put us on the back foot here. Being the buffer zone between empires, communism etc. It's a long time, but still.
Not even 200 years. I’d say the period of communism and being reduced to Stalin’s puppet state did the trick and made us look eastern in the eyes of those living in the west. That’s why I hate it really much when even Poles themselves call our country and culture eastern, clearly not knowing where we come from and what’s our history.
I hope that the concept of Germany, France and Russia (Lisbon - Vladivostok) will never be realized. For us Poles, this is a deadly threat. Not only for us.
Much support and respect for Poland and it's people. They know what Russia is up to and about, they have plenty of experience. Their support for Ukraine is outstanding.
@@grzymurzdietetyk7931 Bravo for being ignorant. Ever heard of the word 'deterrent'? No? Let me ask you this. You woke up with a sudden urge to manslaughter. You pick your trusty, sharpened axe and go out of your house. There are two groups of 20 people, each of them alone is enough to satisfy you. But look, one of them has nothing but their fist. They decided that buying luxury phones and clothes will give them better lives. Meh...easy pray, not satisfying. So you look at the other side. You see them in barely-decent clothes and little luxuries to their name...but instead each has a long-range automatic riffle. Eh...there's satisfaction to be had in tearing the luxurious clothes and pricy phones, right? Yeah, you go and pick that side. After all you suddenly remembered that you have allergy to guns, so you don't wanna get closer to the second group. This somewhat exaggerated little story shows what is a deterrent. Something that WORKS by preventing you from acting in a way that the user of said deterrent does not want you to act in. Nuclear weapons are also a deterrent weapon. And guess what! Russia is virtually untouchable EXACTLY because they invested heavily in nuclear weapons! Weapons that they planned to never use! But because they have it and CAN use it, other countries don't want to oppose them. Saying that weapons, military or police force are being overspent on and that they aren't used is SIMPLY GODDAMN WRONG. They are used by existing because those that WOULD attack if they weren't there...don't do it. That is the most valuable use of money out there. Until you can obtain that peace after all, there is no economic growth, social growth or any other advancement. Peace is the most crucial element in growing.
"si vis pacem, para bellum". I think we share that point of view with Finns. Suomi knows exactly how it is to be in fact western country bordering with Russia. You have to keep whole nation ready to fight all the time to show them that there is no f...ing around with you,
21:40 Take into account that domestic polsih military industry is going through the roof. There are private and public military companies literally growing in size 500%. And the orders for polish weapons comes form across the world too: polish drones, Piorun manpads, polish autonomic battle systems, carbines Msbs Grot, Krabs, ifv Borsuk and so much more. South Koreans are building factories for K9"s and K2's in Poland with technology transfers which means polish engineering space is booming.
Polish military complex...rather located in Poland. This whole was is for making money, pushing people against other "for the victory". Even if Poland doesn't attach/defend, private complex will ears trillions. Saying from which country this complex is, is rather obvious.
@@kml8732 Sorry man, my ex-girl works in IT mil industry. I know exactly how it looks like (who has access to information, has access to everything) :)
In 1939 we trusted our allies and when the 2ww started we were left alone, now we have learned from the mistakes of the past and we will not stand idly by in the face of danger.
Yes, and that is probably why, not so long ago, our Minister of Defense was spending money intended for the modernization of the army on "freedom benches."
People quote the article 5 of NATO but there is a small but very serious point in it. For NATO members to come to help the attacked "ally" (we've been backstabbed by the Western countries in the past so many times that I can't fully trust them) is for the attacked country to defend itself, capital and it's government by at least 7 to 14 days before NATO sends any troops. So I'm sorry but if arming ourselves to the point you think it's paranoia, I would rather be paranoid than to wait for help from so called "allies". 1939 comes to mind.
@@michaelheather8469 where u ask? The answer is simple. Let's declare war against the 3rd Reich but do not move our troops past the range of french Maginot line (6-10) miles in and if Poland falls let's retreat behind the wall (which btw was easily bypassed by the German army. Later that war let's not recognise the legitimate government (in exile) to not anger uncle Stalin and finish it off by literally deciding behind the polish government that after the war Poland will be under the Soviet rule.
In Poland we have a saying "Umiesz liczyć, licz na siebie" - it's hard to translate literally but it means "You can calculate (count), count on yourself" . The verb "liczyć" means in Polish - count/calculate . History has taught us that we cannot even trust our allies 100%. When it's bad, they can turn their backs on us. Our government is controversial, but I fully support them on the defense system. We have always been a battleground between east and west, and that will never change. We are where we are
yes , russia have mentality of horde of barbarians they want conquer and being empire in 21 century , they are threat for the rest of europe and must be stop, but when politics play a game with barbarians like russia you have to be prepared for a lot of unnecessary losses , because in Poland example ours politics are bunch of preschoolers arguing with each other and unable to get along with each other
Few points. 1. Poland is building a force that is designed to never fight. It is to be so strong that any potential aggressor would think that cost of invasion outweighs the benefits. 2. When it comes to a open war we learned from Bucha and Irpin and many more that we can't let enemy into our territory and wait for allies to come and save the day. we need to be able to stop invasion ourself. 3. Poland flat terrain is harder to defend than ukraine 4. Germany proved to not be reliable ally 5. We must now spend what we ignored in 40 years 6. Korean purchase come with technology transfer and will be in big part manufactured in Poland. That means more good jobs for polish people and some cost coming back as taxes.
About trust - Ukraine does not have to hold any troops on their west side. We, in Poland, should always hold some troops on the west side. Don't you share this feeling?
10:00 Its not just military and refugees, although its already a lot. Its also fuel supplies, ammo, legal help for Ukraine, prosecutors help to documenting crimes against humanity in Ukraine, diplomatic backup, infrastructural help for Ukraine, thousand of container homes in Kharkiv and Lwów, starlinks communication for the Ukrainian army counted in thousands, volunteering everyday help, and so much more. Some things you just cant give measureable value.
Poland's preparations are not just about potential war. It's mostly about economics. A lot of money is spent on these purchases, but it is still less than Poland could lose by losing investor confidence. We have to convince the world that Polish borders are safe and that doing business with us is safe. That's why all purchases are deliberately wildly medial.
Rob, you get it wrong. Poland is expanding its military power to make potential Russian aggression very costly. In other words Poland is building deterrent potential as a way to avoid direct military conflict.
8:30 Here is a thing about trust. When Germany invaded in 1939 France and Britain did very little to support us. When negotiations between US, UK and Soviet Union were on we were sold to the Soviets. And after the war was over Polish soldiers were not allowed in the Victory Parade in London because it could anger the Soviets. West has a Very poor track record of supporting us.
"Si vis pacem, para bellum" - "if you want peace, get ready to war"*. In 1939 we had good soldiers with old-school military. But even with blasters attack from both sides was the point. One enemy used new style of warfare, when Ivans used old-time tactic ("throw evgerything on them"). So you need to be prepared technologically and strategically, but in Poland case you also need someone to backstab one of those damned backstabing neighbours. * Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur, poza "A clava curva pie vinco in speluncam" - 'Zakrzywioną maczugą zwyciężam pobożnie w jaskini".
The stronger our military becomes, the less afraid we will be, anyway, even if total conflict does not occur (which I personally doubt) it is a win-win situation. Even if it all ends in a smaller massacre it will strengthen and Poland will be an even stronger bulwark against the wild east than it was before ;)
What "strong" means for you ? 10.000 tanks, 1.000.000 pistols or one nuke ? Or maybe having sonic, EMP stuff that can lie down any tank or soldier (sonic) ?
@@adamwalter2573 "Strong" I had in mind, the events of the Here and Now, which is war between Ukraine and Russia. Our country is increasing its strength after through the supplied/purchased equipment and training of our troops. What I wanted to express is that we will be able to give more support in a fight against someone ( in this case against Russia ) and also we ourselves will be able to defend ourselves against them or resist longer and stronger, if WE will be attacked (again). Taking your point of view into account, until EMP weapons of mass destruction are used in the future ( as Battlefield Bad Company 2 was, for example ) then for the time being the development of the military gives people moral support and allows us to worry less about what might threaten us at and beyond our borders.
Politicians of the ruling party in Poland, as one of the arguments say that after such purchases, Poland will become a provider of security in the region and the world, and now we are only a recipient. We cannot always rely only on allies counting on their help, now we can also be a provider of security for others
we as Civilians in Poland also need do not trust too much politicians, after all, they will escape the first plane as problems arise because they have immunity, they will not fight only us, for this we must be careful with this trust in politicians, example: I prefer as a Pole to have "his" tank that is produced in Poland and not to have it "promised" by politicians and in the meantime to import it from abroad because during the war there will be a problem with supplies and we will be in serious trouble because We will not have our tanks and there will be nowhere to repair them
The ultimate question is (prepare, gonna be hard!): Is it better to be overpowered when noone attacks you (but your neighbour is unpredictable, paranoid, savage idiot), or to be underpowered if they attack? And there's another thing: Maybe that overpowerness (is there such word in English at all? lol) can stop the intentions of that paranoid psycho sshole..? The key word: "deterrence".
I absolutely love seeing Polands rise. You wait. After the Ukraine War is over both nations will have a strong alliance. Then after Ukraine's recovery we'll see two strong nations in Eastern Europe that will help influence its politics.
maybe ,if politicians on both sides start talking to each other, and explain all disputes and grievances then maybe so, without it would be hard to talk about any relations, especially in Poland because our politicians argue with each other like a bunch of preschoolers, which presents us abroad as a nation of kids moaning for money, who themselves can not do anything and can not conduct discussions in English (our president can not fluently talk in English, and even we as Poles can see it, because now learning English is even in kindergarten
@Black Dragon ahhhhh, happens with every alliance and infighting with politicians. I mean just look at our politics in the US. We've been squabbling with each other for over two centuries now lol
for starters ukraine is not a nation ...for starters give me a name of their last king ..so comparing some medial creation with 1000 years kingdom is a fuckin joke
It's better to spend huge money preparing to war to defend your homeland even if it may not happen, than lossing your homeland and possibly relatives cause you spent and did not enough.
First task of an army is to scare enemy. Also we need to be able to protect Baltic States - so we need to be ready to take russian enclave to secure lifeline for them.
Rob, we are not the same. It's a common mistake :). We may look the same but we are different people. Of course it is not enough reason to start a war ... for normal people. Leaders start a war but to do that they need support of their own people and Putin has it. Freedom, democracy are not granted.
Poland needs to have a big army because we have a border with Russia (Kaliningrad exclave) and Belarus. If Ukraine fell we would have another hundreds of kilometers of enemy border. I think that we should get some money from other countries on maintaining our army, cauz we protect not only ourselves but also rest of the Europe. I think that Finland, Baltics, Poland and Romania should receive annual payments for maintaining their armies cauz lets be honest Portugal, Spain, Ireland, Belgium, the Netherlands and the list goes on do not face any threat near their lands. We also need to have offensive warfare to be able to counter any russian attacks. Russians are mentally different than Europe. 1 They respect only hard power. If you try making a compromise with them they see it as a sign of weakness and immediately want to abuse you. 2 Russian society can be very poor and delighted only if Russia is winning, conquering. Russians love to suffer for greater good (Russia invades and takes other lands) 3 They are much more asian ordes ethics than european. So you can force other to do anything, be very brutal and do not regard human life. For them its human meat, their famous proverb is "women gonna give birth to new babies" Russia should collapse or become next North Korea
@@pogo_369 you are either russian troll or just being ignorant. Trust me in Poland we know better what we need. Strong army to defend ourselves in case of attack on us. Secondly with stronger army you become force to reckon with.
Well, in times when we were trying to warn the western Europe that Putin is not the right man to make a deal with, we were also called "paranoid", "Russophobes" and so on. I understand your perspective as a someone, who lives safely on his distant island, far away from the Ukrainian war - for us this war is happening at our doorstep. As much as I appreciate the alliances Poland is part of, I also remember how those alliances are usually ending up for us, Poles. Look at all this delay in providing any military support for Ukraine by countries like Germany - that is why I'm not surprised that the polish government is interested in buying such a huge amount of weapon. Putin is an unpredictable lunatic and we need to be prepared for literally everything. If that means we are paranoid then so be it.
Article 5 says that attacking one NATO country is like attacking all of them , true. The downside is that article 5 doesnt mention any military intervention in that case . Basically NATO members once one of other member coutries gets attacked dont have to participate in any battle. Article 5 is so loosely formulated that you as a member country can send letters to Putin to asking him to stop attack on other member country and you already fulfilled criteria for enacting Article 5 . As a Pole I'm pretty sure that once Russia attacks Poland we will be on our own again. France will do same as they do now wanting to „negotiate„ , Germqny wont bat and eye due to being dependent on russian gas ,UK will once again print „stop the war„ pamphlets .
exactly Nato is good only on paper , because even now Countries like germany as a example will play politics because they don't want russia get angry because they don't want trade with gas from russia to stop , because russian gas is cheap , and for some peopole cheaper gas is more important than stopping a maniac who rules a country that for 1000 years of its existence has done nothing but introduce "Russian protection" on their neighbors
It's not insane, it's not paranoid. We know in Poland that we can count only on ourselves. It may happen like in 1939 that our allies will leave us. We don;t want to depend on anyone anymore. We want to live in peace. We want peace - that'w why we have to be prepared for war.
IMO case of polish militarization is clear. If war will come then we will be able to protect our homes. If war will not come because we will be hard enemy then this is gonna be a win-win. If we will not participate in war with Russia then there is always way to sell equipment like we did with Ukraine and then buy newer and better. I don’t see this militarization as a waiting of money this is the only way to keep Poland in the map of the world.
Deterrence spending is better than a war so hopefully those weapons will never be used. The sad part in the Ukrainian Russian war on both sides men and women are killed people who are fathers mothers sons and daughters
Poland basically embraced the Swiss model of Armed Neutrality. Russians are proud of their Nuclear arsenal so Poland decided to invest heavily into systems that can destroy Missiles/Planes that can deliver this nuclear payload before they enter the country.
Poland gets involved in a war with Russia 🇷🇺, we're seeing Poland caught up in another tragic war, 80 years after the conflict with Germany (1939-45). 🇩🇪 Deja vu, only with players switching roles.
You need an extremely powerful navy and aircraft while we need an extremely powerful land army and land anti-aircraft anti-vessel systems.... Together we have everything ;)
But the reality will be different - Poland will invest in least required weapon type - to make sure it looses or doesn't gain any advantage. Save my words.
1: Poland signs contract with Korea to build Korean tanks and more In Poland. = Korea sends all technology and factory’s intro Poland. 2: Poland have biggest in Europe Trotyl factory and now that factory grow fast. 3: Poland have 4 big Cluster ammunition factories 4: In background Poland is build huge hi tech technology centers and labs, cooperate all strategical factories intro one/3 groups. One of them is WB Electronics and now as a WB group. That kick up everything 10-20y ahead in technology/labs/factories and military engineering that will made new hi end engineering class. So Poland now have engineering point of start at Abrams and new Korean technology, so everything that now Polish engineers and workers build, learn will be minimum on that level. That what I call “skill upgrade”.
Article 5: Article 5 provides that if a NATO Ally is the victim of an armed attack, each and every other member of the Alliance will consider this act of violence as an armed attack against all members and will take the actions it deems necessary to assist the Ally attacked. Article 5 only says: will take the actions it deems necessary. What if Poland is attacked by Russia with nuke for example and then German deems necessary action is a convoy with helmets to assist the Ally attacked. It should be clarified what necessary action really means in such a situation. We Polish dont want to become sandwich once again. Im just skeptical about Article 5
Usual readiness. It took decades for Poland to recover economically. Everything was lost , lives , houses , monuments ... Unfortunately , Russia 's mentality remained the same .
Poland is not going to have a war with Russia. We do not have any imperialistic ambitions, our standard of living on average is quite high. But in case someone will make a stupid decision... they might run out of cannon fodder.
@@Spark_Iskra_z_Polski Przez własną głupotę, a nie przez ufanie niewłaściwym siłom. Wszyscy w całej Europie wiedzieli i widzieli w 1939 roku, że UK i Francja fizycznie nie mają siły aby przyjść Polsce z pomocą, tylko nie Polacy. Majaczyliśmy coś nawet, o wejściu brytyjskiej Royal Navy na Bałtyk - ta, przez kontrolowane przez Niemców cieśniny duńskie, bądź podziemnym tunelem.
Great Britain currently has 227 tanks. Over the last year, Poland has delivered over 300 of its tanks to Ukraine... In the event of a potential war with Russia, several hundred tanks may not be enough.
I hope that Poland will cooperate with Korea to strengthen the military power of Poland and Europe, and I emphasize that Poland, like Korea, shares certain geopolitical challenges.
I think the more probable than russian strike on Poland is russian strike on Estonia, but then we need to be fully prepared to defend our Estonian allies. Second in 1989 there was a partially free election, Solidarity won all seats it was allowed to start for and Tadeusz Mazowiecki became first non communist prime minister since ww2. He was great man. If there are some videos about him in English you should certainly watch them. He later became national hero in Bosnia, after being UN emissary during war in Yugoslavia.
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8:20 Confidence and the British in the context of foreign policy is a joke. in 1939' most trusted the allies, never again. Later, it wasn't America or the British that drove the Germans out. they are Russians, their blood, their sacrifice. it's because of Russian that I don't call my sister "Schwester" and my father "Fater" - how similar is German to English;) you can see who is whose friend who is related to whom. You Atlanteans know how to trade. but this precludes truthfulness, trust and faithfulness to one's word. away from the Atlantic world. Many Poles think so.
Thx for true words:)
Rob,to ur last words money could be wasted on this stuff. We can lend-lease,sell even but having massive equipment is also helping making bussiness and having more infuence . Bussiness needs protection:)
Dobre i to ze ktos cokolwiek pisze na ten temat.Thanks very much,appreciate.
With out of Germany and nukes they means nothing!!!
We are not scared 😅we live near Russia for the past 1000 years. We know them well and know that better be overprepared than not prepared at all. We know we must survive for ourselves and can't count on anybody else.
Yeah- like that time in WWII; what French and British governments did? They declared war and... stopped there... "if you can count, count on yourself" plus if U are armed, the thief will think at least twice before attacking U.
yes ur seldom in this world, and u choose to be this way :)
Muscovy is not thousand years old 🤣
@@slawekwojtowicz moskale byli przed Rosja i można powiedzieć ze polska walczyła około 1000 years na tym terenie byli mogły skąd rusza wziela początek
True. Our "friends" in the western EU have shown repeatedly that when we get attacked they wont help us by sending their troops. Therefore we are preparing for war
The distances from Warsaw to Moscow and Warsaw to Brussels are equal. The sign makes this point: Poland is not East or West. Poland is at the centre of European civilization. It has contributed mightily to that civilization ...
- Ronald Reagan
Reagan was an actor. To please others. He could have as well said Germany is between Dublin and Moscow if needed.
@@lukei6255 emmm but that was true you can check if you want
@@Magistry88i94 I am talking about pleasing. You can always find something to suit your narrative.
Poland ready to invad and steal land from Ukrain ?
@@lukei6255 The best role he played was that of the president of the United States. He should get an Oscar and a Nobel for it
Poland is arming itself not to fight with Russia, but to show that attacking Poland is not worth it. According to the principle of Si vis pacem, para bellum. In addition to the military equipment mentioned in the video, Poland is ordering a lot more weapons. Recently, an order was placed for 1,000 Borsuk infantry fighting vehicles, which will be produced in Poland. Additionally, the US Congress has approved the sale of 500 HIMARS with missiles, including ATACMS missiles with a range of 300km. If all of this military equipment reaches Poland, I think Poland will be safe. And that's what it's all about - avoiding war. There is another aspect to this matter - a more political one. There are many smaller, weaker countries that are also threatened. And here they have to rely on the help of other, stronger countries. Poland, having a strong army, will be able to guarantee military protection to other countries. This could make Poland a leader in this part of Europe. As a result, Poland will be stronger in the international arena, including within the European Union. Great video btw.
The himars cant be supplied in a realistic time frame thats why they went with korean ones , just havent found out yet how many it gives a figure in the media but that doesnt say whether its 200+ launchers or 200+ launchers and support vehicles so roughly 100 launchers and 100 ammo/ reload vehicles but i think they still ordered or plan to order himars as well just not as many
@@michaelheather8469
The US Congress did actually approve the sale of 20 HIMARS systems and around 500 launcher units, because Poland wants to mount them on its own Jelcz-type trucks. Even if Poland does not order all 500 units, but only 200-300, together with 218 Korean systems, which have twice as many launchers as HIMARS, it will be a great firepower.
500 HIMARS -> political game for the public. The Polish government is out of money now so I don't know why they are talking about such amounts of weaponry. Second, the public mood is very disappointed with the current government. Too much corruption and it's even public corruption.
EU doesn't want to give money to Poland because of the laws there.
The coal power plants starting to become too much expensive because of the taxes that the EU applies for such not economic paths.
The government told they will build 2 or 3 nuclear power plants. Who will pay for it? Poland is not that rich.
Everything is just the public game that will allow the transfer of money from the Poland budget to their private accounts ;)
The mood in Poland's military is also not so great because of the political internal actions.
You are just evaluating the political "promises" and fairy tales.
@@michaelheather8469 It was clarified later that it is 500 sets of missiles. There would be around 20 launchers.
@@kamil411x Bot algorithm fail you. Lack of money is in the failed social politics. Not the military. Those reforms were planed way before the war in Ukraine. It is just that Germans were causing pointless delays.
About Poland choosing the West. It's not like we had that idea few decades ago and now we are trying to realize it. It's more like we trying to live good with West for like thousand years. In 966 we adopted Christianity, we adopted latin alphabet, we mention Napoleon in our national anthem and we were allied to British and French during WW2 etc. We always trying to have good relation with western countries, learn from them, adopt some of their ideas just to make Poland better place to live, but Russia is trying to stop us every time. They want to make Poland their sphere of influence. They don't have high standards of living, they don't have money, they don't have edge cutting technologies, so none sane Pole would choose Russia over the West. Russian are basically out of options and they can only apply pressure and when it isn't enough they will use force to enforce their vision of Europe. This exactly what is happening to Ukraine right now and that's why we support Ukrainians, because they are experiencing the same thing that was happening to us for like hundreds of years.
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Weź się za poważne studiowanie historii, myśli politycznej, cywilizacji, krótko mówiąc naucz się dojrzałego patrzenia na świat. Nie obraź się ale Twoje spostrzeganie świata jest infantylne i niestety nie jesteś sam bo tak nas się od kołyski tresuje. Żeby nie było niejasności, nie piszę tego żeby Cię obrazić czy zdołować, zwyczajnie nasza polska dobroduszność i ufność (siostra naiwności) zgubi nasz naród.
_"They don't have high standards of living, they don't have money, they don't have edge cutting technologies, so none sane Pole would choose Russia over the West"_ **** It's not even a matter of things you mentioned. Russian rule (and the Poles have had a "taste" of it) is the rule of idiots, *with whom nothing can be done* even if the essence of their rule is the country's regress in every respect. Backwardness of civilization. Even if you are one of these idiots, that is, you're lucky, you aren't lucky, because you're not sure of your life. Other idiots can arrest you, poison you, execute you, they can evaporate you. This is an indescribable nightmare that no normal person wants to live in. Even high technology and standard of living cannot compensate for this. Poles aren't used to having no say in their lives. Russians are.
A możesz rozwinąć swoją wypowiedź? Bo właściwie nic nie powiedziałeś poza "Doucz się bo naiwny jesteś", tyle że uprzejmie.
A w wyniku takiego "douczania" się można w różne miejsca zawędrować.
It's not that we are "joining the West", we are the West. The doubts are coming from the fact that we are poor. As soon as the Polish GDP per capita is comparable to French or German, there will be no doubt about where we are.
"We in Poland know it full well that today Georgia, tomorrow Ukraine, the day after tomorrow the Baltic states and then maybe it's time for my country, Poland."
-- Lech Kaczyński, President of Poland in his speech in Tbilisi , August 12th 2008.
Imagine if the world had listened to him back then...
No nation knows the Russians better than us. No nation knows how Russians think and fight better than us. No nation knows the weaknesses of Russia better than us. And no nation apart from Poland has conquered Moscow and left out of their own free will.
Let them come!
if they come to "visit" us, it will be their last visit ever.
Boże..co za naiwni rodacy. Oprzytomnijcie w końcu.
@@agnieszkaolszewska6079
Boże, co za naiwna rodaczka. Oprzytomnij w końcu!
@@ripLunarBirdCLH Sam oprzytomnij. Ale do tego trzeba znać historię. Cytowanie Lecha Kaczyńskiego..Jak tak bardzo chcecie się bic z Rosją, to jazda na Ukrainę. Jeśli Rosja nadal chce Polskę podbić, to Niemcy nadal chcą nas spalić w krematoriach. A tu masz..w UE z nimi jesteśmy, do pracy jeździmy. Można? Zostawcie w spokoju wreszcie Rosję. Dość machania szabelką. To Ukraina jest naszym - gospodarczym - wrogiem.
@@agnieszkaolszewska6079 oprzytomnij, onucą jedziesz.
When the day of trial comes, Poland will find out whether the "great and wonderful" west will sell it, as during World War II. World War II showed how much Poland can trust Western leaders, for whom their own business is the most important thing.
It is literally why most of that is intended to be made on Polish soil bot boy. West at least don't shoot in the back of they own allies, unlike some Chinese colony.
No i bardzo dobrze robią bo władny interes jest najważniejszy i Polska też powinna to zrozumieć.
Word is , that blue colour on Polish flag represents reliable allies... Good old Polish joke...
Because we do not beg for freedom. We fight for it!
Ani Ty, ani ja, o nic (jeszcze) nie walczyilśmy, wstawianie tego cytatu wszędzie jest takim cringem, że szok. Nie jesteśmy tym samym społeczeńśtwem co nasi dziadkowie, czy pradziadkowie.
@@maxalbon9557 dlatego rządzący z tym społeczeństwem robią sobie co chcą. Skąd wiesz, że nie walczyłem? W dzisiejszych realiach ten cytat raczej nie będzie odnosił się do udziału w "wielkiej, romantycznej" wojnie, tylko w sukcesach codziennego życia, walki o lepszą przyszłość dla siebie i rodziny.
@@damianock9991 Do dzisiejszych realiów w ogóle to się nie odnosi, bo jak sam wspominałeś, robią z nami co chcą, a my nic z tym nie robimy.
@@maxalbon9557 Radziłbym powściągliwość w wyrażaniu takich tez. Walka o wolność toczyła się również po wojnie. W czasie minionego systemu ludzie również ginęli z rąk opresyjnego aparatu władzy. Ja miałem 22 lata gdy pierwszy raz odbyły się wolne wybory w Polsce. W młodym wieku poznałem " umiejętności " Służby Bezpieczeństwa. To tylko taka drobna sugestia.
@@krzysztofd9164 o których wyborach piszesz "wolne"?
I lived in the UK for the last 20 years and my look at what was going on in Poland was blurred. Even before I left I always criticized Poland's military spending and always said it was way too high and it's not needed in our modern times. But now I realize how wrong I was, Since the day one Putin sat in Kremlin chair I knew he would cause trouble but I didn't think it would be to this extent. Now I cheer for Poland's military modernization, I agree with what they say - 'we need to be strong enough so that no one will even consider attacking us'. I agree with what you said, it is Europe's frontline and I think it is a shame they don't get any support in what they're doing and countries like Germany are just putting more bumps under their feet. I'm here in the UK so the danger is much smaller here, but at the end of the day wouldn't it be better to stop the threat a thousand miles away rather than having them close enough to be able to shoot directly at us? On the other hand, just like with Ukraine, if any country from Baltic States, through Czech Rep., Slovakia, and even Hungary or Romania got attacked, where would they turn their heads to first? Since the WW2 Poland was always the biggest Hub of heavy armoured infantry and tanks and now it shows why it made sense. In numbers Poland gave Ukraine more tanks and heavy armoured vehicles than the rest of NATO combined. They may not have been top nudge technology but they were there, available immediately and often better than the Russian ones. All they do now is the upgrade so that if something breaks out again they'll have the best equipment to counter the threat.
Yeach , fresh meat - we can deliver planty of it .
We have sold our industry - but we have a good meat for sale now .
Just print some dollars and purchase it . Unfortunately the fridge is broken and we can not reapair it at the moment . But don't worry we deliver it somehow. Fresh meat , training not included.
1."Germany are just putting " - Putin'g ? Putin bought german cancelor Schr"o"der and build Nord Streamthen! Russian Gasprom is one of the biggest sponsor of german Bundesliega! They work together since many years! 2." I'm here in the UK so the danger is much smaller here," - did you ever heare about russian bomb "posejdon"?, so go and learn how to swim in UK/cold Atlantic!
@@grzymurzdietetyk7931 But it smelled of Muscovite footwork!
@@tadeuszbrt Tadeusz ty pisz po polsku - może coś ciekawego przekażesz .
@@grzymurzdietetyk7931 Nie piereżywaj mogu i na russkim, budiet Tebie udobnje czitat'
Out alliance leaving us to our fate in 1939. Neither France nor England helped us. There was an alliance, but as it often happens with alliances (you can recognize them by their behavior), that's why Poland pays so much for its military now. We are in NATO, but we have to learn from history, we have had allies who were supposed to help us more than once :) If you want to count, count on yourself
Wrong, Ukraine was also showed some time ago as getting stronger, advanced, more and more powerful. You know what is the most stupid ? That scenario for UKR and Poland do match in 100%, as if it was written by the same person.
Poland has never tolerated Russia for obvious reasons and we want freedom and freedom very well and Russia is the antithesis of this word, that's why we want to have a great army to feel safe
(You want peace, prepare for war) Greetings from Poland
@Michał Smarzewski ty chyba znasz jakąś alternatywną historie bo o Polskiej historii nie masz pojećia dociągnij onuce
@Michał Smarzewski zbadaj stopy bo na główkę to za późno
@Michał Smarzewski to oświeć nas o wielki znawco, jaka jest prawdziwa historia Polski
@Michał Smarzewski It seems you have no brain buddy!
@Michał Smarzewski Żeby mówić o prawdziwej historii Polski to najpierw trzeba być Polakiem ,a ty śmieciu nie zasługujesz na to miano!
For the first time since the partitions, i.e. since the 18th century, we have the opportunity to prepare ourselves to scare away. And that's what we're doing.
Paranoid? Well last 500 years of interaction with Russia learned us that, there is no such thing like enough arms.
In Poland we like Latin quotes, “Si vis pacem, para bellum” since 90s I hears this constantly when we talk about Russia.
I’m 33y old, same like Poland is independent, and it’s longest independence since 1795.
Freedom and independence isn’t free, better to pay in zlotys than blood, again.
Do not push Poland for war against Russia. Every war Poland is helping Europe, but after war Polish bravery is forgoten. Only Poland is loosing, first protecting of Europe, second we do not have enough help.
Composition of this new army clearly suggests that Poland is preparing to fight war not on its territory. Previous assumptions were that Polish military defends country by alloiwng russians in and boxing them in couple of areas. However the brutality of russian soldiers, war crimes, systematic targeting of civillians etc. that repeats exaclty the same patterns as in last few hundred years made Poland change its mind. To fight on your own territory means untold atrocities commited by russians-both as policy and as consequence of their culture. Thus the only option is to prepare for war outside of Poland and for that you need much more powerful forces preared not for defense but for attack. Hence the massive build up. Additonally entire scheme of Putins attack was pointing out to what Poles feared the most and that is NATO guarantees are non-existent, no european country thinks strategically and they regard Russia as ally. In event of attack NATO would collapse and thats precisely that almost happend within first 24hours of russian attack, and why it is USA-UK-Poland axis that leads war effort, and everyone is there because they are forced by this trio. As consequence the only ally that Poland have is US, but US due to its commitement and different problems will not be able and willing to fight Russia alone and will not help if Poland cannot help itself. US needs 3 months at minimum to mvoe substantila forces to Europe. So the idea is to be able to fight Russia alone for long enough so that Americans will feel that they can and should help becuase it is doable and in line with their security concerns. This is what Ukrainians have done by preparing defense the way they did. They learned about this from Poles that in last 5 years had internal expert discussion about this very problem. They used this in practice and demonstrated that if you show to US that you can fight, they will help because no one is supporting a loosing side. In event of no support Poland wishes to have forces strong enough so that it alone will deter attack. If war comes, forces will be strong enough to punch so hard that peace agreement will save if not soverignty than at least substantial autonomy for the state. For all of that you need very big, very strong, very modern and very agressive military force capable of projecting itself well into Baltic States, Belarus and Ukraine. Also the behaviour of France and most importantly Germany clearily indicates their absolute wilingness to accept destruction of polish state and genocide of its people for the sake of pushing out americans out of continent with use of russian hands. they are not regarded as allies, but passive-agressive enemies. Strong army is supposed to force them to change that stance and in silent way to intimidate them especially Berlin and use their strategic ineptidue agaisnt them (they are afraid but happy that somebody elses spends money). I know this is all counter-intuitive and journalists do not talk about this, but journalists barely can tie their shoelaces. Trust me, EU-NATO is a can full of batshit crazy corrupted nutjobs that hate each other and are together only because US forced to during Cold War. All talk about "West" is nonsense in eyes of polish decision-makers. The beginning of video you are reacting to is example of this: when poles hear how much they were of help during WW2 their reactions is "yeah, and you didnt helped us, in fact you used us as meatshield, we got massacrated, then we had 4th biggest army fighting aginst Germany, we sacrficed everything, we created massive uprising, we smuggled V-2 rockets, cracjed enigma code, saved London and millions of jews, and then you done second betreyal during Yalta and accused us of antisemitism and racism (constant factor in your news). You are full of shit". Thats what Poles see and hear, but they rarely will say it out loud. They will smile and make happy face because you recognize them, but thats what they think inside. You want peac:e pe prepared for hell. And that no one will help you and in fact they will put a knife in your side and twist it while smiling and lying that they helped you so much. Thats polish experience with so called "west".
Nice summary of our situation. We need more thinking And acting people like that. Niech żyje Polska!
And that's a fact.
Attack....really....Russia will nuke you in the blink of an eye, get real..!!
good job Rob,it's rare to see a foreign citizen understanding Poland and our mindset so well,your knowledge about us and our country is impressive mate
Just feel like I need to say this. Technically throughout most of its history, Poland was more western than eastern. You know, catholicism, Roman pope, similar intellectual and artistic currents and all that. It's the last 200 years that kind of put us on the back foot here. Being the buffer zone between empires, communism etc. It's a long time, but still.
Not even 200 years. I’d say the period of communism and being reduced to Stalin’s puppet state did the trick and made us look eastern in the eyes of those living in the west. That’s why I hate it really much when even Poles themselves call our country and culture eastern, clearly not knowing where we come from and what’s our history.
I hope that the concept of Germany, France and Russia (Lisbon - Vladivostok) will never be realized. For us Poles, this is a deadly threat. Not only for us.
At this point it is dead idea. In reality it always was a fiction.
@@TheRezro I wish you were right
@@krzysztofd9164wich concept? I never Heard of this?
@@gtownmadness4302 Realy? Your ex president Miedviediev, Emmanuel they talked about it
openly. Eurasia or Lisbon-Vladivostok concept
@@krzysztofd9164 Im from Poland not from Russia ;)
Much support and respect for Poland and it's people. They know what Russia is up to and about, they have plenty of experience. Their support for Ukraine is outstanding.
Poland was the western's ally but was sold by them in Yalta.
The Main purpose of having a lot of militarny equipment is to never have to use it. Like in the adage: "If you want peace, prepare for war".
Yes - you purchase a lot of equipement and than you wait so all you have become obsolete.
@@grzymurzdietetyk7931 Bravo for being ignorant.
Ever heard of the word 'deterrent'? No? Let me ask you this. You woke up with a sudden urge to manslaughter. You pick your trusty, sharpened axe and go out of your house. There are two groups of 20 people, each of them alone is enough to satisfy you.
But look, one of them has nothing but their fist. They decided that buying luxury phones and clothes will give them better lives. Meh...easy pray, not satisfying. So you look at the other side.
You see them in barely-decent clothes and little luxuries to their name...but instead each has a long-range automatic riffle. Eh...there's satisfaction to be had in tearing the luxurious clothes and pricy phones, right? Yeah, you go and pick that side. After all you suddenly remembered that you have allergy to guns, so you don't wanna get closer to the second group.
This somewhat exaggerated little story shows what is a deterrent. Something that WORKS by preventing you from acting in a way that the user of said deterrent does not want you to act in. Nuclear weapons are also a deterrent weapon. And guess what! Russia is virtually untouchable EXACTLY because they invested heavily in nuclear weapons! Weapons that they planned to never use! But because they have it and CAN use it, other countries don't want to oppose them.
Saying that weapons, military or police force are being overspent on and that they aren't used is SIMPLY GODDAMN WRONG. They are used by existing because those that WOULD attack if they weren't there...don't do it. That is the most valuable use of money out there. Until you can obtain that peace after all, there is no economic growth, social growth or any other advancement. Peace is the most crucial element in growing.
"si vis pacem, para bellum". I think we share that point of view with Finns. Suomi knows exactly how it is to be in fact western country bordering with Russia. You have to keep whole nation ready to fight all the time to show them that there is no f...ing around with you,
21:40 Take into account that domestic polsih military industry is going through the roof. There are private and public military companies literally growing in size 500%. And the orders for polish weapons comes form across the world too: polish drones, Piorun manpads, polish autonomic battle systems, carbines Msbs Grot, Krabs, ifv Borsuk and so much more. South Koreans are building factories for K9"s and K2's in Poland with technology transfers which means polish engineering space is booming.
Polish military complex...rather located in Poland. This whole was is for making money, pushing people against other "for the victory". Even if Poland doesn't attach/defend, private complex will ears trillions. Saying from which country this complex is, is rather obvious.
You’re clueless… these are all Polish state owned and Polish private companies.
@@adamwalter2573 you have no idea what you are talking about.
@@kml8732 Sorry man, my ex-girl works in IT mil industry. I know exactly how it looks like (who has access to information, has access to everything) :)
@@adamwalter2573 access to everything 🤣🤣 are you dumb? Just to name the few: Mesko, WB electronics, Cenzin, Radmor, Protektor or Vigo systems.
In 1939 we trusted our allies and when the 2ww started we were left alone, now we have learned from the mistakes of the past and we will not stand idly by in the face of danger.
Yes, and that is probably why, not so long ago, our Minister of Defense was spending money intended for the modernization of the army on "freedom benches."
People quote the article 5 of NATO but there is a small but very serious point in it. For NATO members to come to help the attacked "ally" (we've been backstabbed by the Western countries in the past so many times that I can't fully trust them) is for the attacked country to defend itself, capital and it's government by at least 7 to 14 days before NATO sends any troops. So I'm sorry but if arming ourselves to the point you think it's paranoia, I would rather be paranoid than to wait for help from so called "allies". 1939 comes to mind.
Just out of curiosity how were you backstabed in 39
Tou can throw that article in the bin if the attacker is the biggest nuclear power in the world and no one will risk to attack him.
"Si vis pacem, para bellum" Yup, can't count on allies, sure it is good to have them, but I think we learned our bitter lesson from the previous war.
@@michaelheather8469 "Just out of curiosity how were you backstabed in 39". google "Phoney War".
@@michaelheather8469 where u ask? The answer is simple. Let's declare war against the 3rd Reich but do not move our troops past the range of french Maginot line (6-10) miles in and if Poland falls let's retreat behind the wall (which btw was easily bypassed by the German army. Later that war let's not recognise the legitimate government (in exile) to not anger uncle Stalin and finish it off by literally deciding behind the polish government that after the war Poland will be under the Soviet rule.
In Poland we have a saying "Umiesz liczyć, licz na siebie" - it's hard to translate literally but it means "You can calculate (count), count on yourself" . The verb "liczyć" means in Polish - count/calculate . History has taught us that we cannot even trust our allies 100%. When it's bad, they can turn their backs on us. Our government is controversial, but I fully support them on the defense system. We have always been a battleground between east and west, and that will never change. We are where we are
I hear you! We have that saying too. Something like "you can only rely on yourself"
It's not paranoia, it's a necessity
yes , russia have mentality of horde of barbarians they want conquer and being empire in 21 century , they are threat for the rest of europe and must be stop, but when politics play a game with barbarians like russia you have to be prepared for a lot of unnecessary losses , because in Poland example ours politics are bunch of preschoolers arguing with each other and unable to get along with each other
Poles like to argue with each other over even the smallest things in peace time, but when there is a problem, the greatest enemies will fight together
We are not prepering US to war against anyone. We, are prepering to defend our Freedom, our home, our families... And we will fight for it.
Yeach - sell us , all included , mother father , children - just test how stupid we are.
chyba ty, ja spitalam po pierwszej syrenie. Mlodzi tiktokowcy w rurkach nie beda sie bili o politykow.
@@adamwalter2573W punkt.
Few points.
1. Poland is building a force that is designed to never fight. It is to be so strong that any potential aggressor would think that cost of invasion outweighs the benefits.
2. When it comes to a open war we learned from Bucha and Irpin and many more that we can't let enemy into our territory and wait for allies to come and save the day. we need to be able to stop invasion ourself.
3. Poland flat terrain is harder to defend than ukraine
4. Germany proved to not be reliable ally
5. We must now spend what we ignored in 40 years
6. Korean purchase come with technology transfer and will be in big part manufactured in Poland. That means more good jobs for polish people and some cost coming back as taxes.
As the saying goes “ is better having a gun and not needing it than needing a gun but not having it”
About trust - Ukraine does not have to hold any troops on their west side. We, in Poland, should always hold some troops on the west side. Don't you share this feeling?
Yes, we always have to keep part of our troops in safe distance, where they can train and recover.
I love Poland and polish people..they know how to help when others are in need...thank you good humans.
Bullshit......They dont help Russian.
stop it.
Naive as usual.
HUGE Thank You for the way to talk about My Country!❤❤❤❤❤❤
My pleasure! Love the place
@@RobReacts1 👍🍺
10:00 Its not just military and refugees, although its already a lot. Its also fuel supplies, ammo, legal help for Ukraine, prosecutors help to documenting crimes against humanity in Ukraine, diplomatic backup, infrastructural help for Ukraine, thousand of container homes in Kharkiv and Lwów, starlinks communication for the Ukrainian army counted in thousands, volunteering everyday help, and so much more. Some things you just cant give measureable value.
Poland's preparations are not just about potential war. It's mostly about economics. A lot of money is spent on these purchases, but it is still less than Poland could lose by losing investor confidence. We have to convince the world that Polish borders are safe and that doing business with us is safe. That's why all purchases are deliberately wildly medial.
Rob, you get it wrong. Poland is expanding its military power to make potential Russian aggression very costly. In other words Poland is building deterrent potential as a way to avoid direct military conflict.
It's not paranoid. It's being experienced with Russia, in a way that most of west isn't.
(and experienced with "allies" and their promises)
Fun fact: Poland currently experiencing longest peace period in it's history. Can't last forever...
lol . That is true. The Polin 447 tribe are rubbing their hands with glee at all the nice things that will be taken away.
8:30 Here is a thing about trust. When Germany invaded in 1939 France and Britain did very little to support us. When negotiations between US, UK and Soviet Union were on we were sold to the Soviets. And after the war was over Polish soldiers were not allowed in the Victory Parade in London because it could anger the Soviets. West has a Very poor track record of supporting us.
we don't ask for freedom, we fight for it
We are neither scared or paranoid. We are just aware of who we have as a neighbour...
Polish people are amazing. Salute from Croatia
We have a saying "A wise Pole after the damage". We won't be defenseless a third time. Because a Pole does not beg for freedom, he fights for it.
"Si vis pacem, para bellum" - "if you want peace, get ready to war"*.
In 1939 we had good soldiers with old-school military. But even with blasters attack from both sides was the point. One enemy used new style of warfare, when Ivans used old-time tactic ("throw evgerything on them").
So you need to be prepared technologically and strategically, but in Poland case you also need someone to backstab one of those damned backstabing neighbours.
* Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur, poza "A clava curva pie vinco in speluncam" - 'Zakrzywioną maczugą zwyciężam pobożnie w jaskini".
If you are next to Russia, you don't ask yourself if you are paranoid. You ask if you are paranoid enough. ;)
"Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum" - If You Want Peace, Prepare For War, Poland is becoming a hard target, that's all.
The stronger our military becomes, the less afraid we will be, anyway, even if total conflict does not occur (which I personally doubt) it is a win-win situation. Even if it all ends in a smaller massacre it will strengthen and Poland will be an even stronger bulwark against the wild east than it was before ;)
why should Polish People suffer to protect back stabbing and nasty Anglo Saxons and Germans ?
What "strong" means for you ? 10.000 tanks, 1.000.000 pistols or one nuke ? Or maybe having sonic, EMP stuff that can lie down any tank or soldier (sonic) ?
@@adamwalter2573 "Strong" I had in mind, the events of the Here and Now, which is war between Ukraine and Russia. Our country is increasing its strength after through the supplied/purchased equipment and training of our troops. What I wanted to express is that we will be able to give more support in a fight against someone ( in this case against Russia ) and also we ourselves will be able to defend ourselves against them or resist longer and stronger, if WE will be attacked (again).
Taking your point of view into account, until EMP weapons of mass destruction are used in the future ( as Battlefield Bad Company 2 was, for example ) then for the time being the development of the military gives people moral support and allows us to worry less about what might threaten us at and beyond our borders.
"if you want peace, get ready for war"
Greetings from Poland :)
Politicians of the ruling party in Poland, as one of the arguments say that after such purchases, Poland will become a provider of security in the region and the world, and now we are only a recipient.
We cannot always rely only on allies counting on their help, now we can also be a provider of security for others
we as Civilians in Poland also need do not trust too much politicians, after all, they will escape the first plane as problems arise because they have immunity, they will not fight only us, for this we must be careful with this trust in politicians, example: I prefer as a Pole to have "his" tank that is produced in Poland and not to have it "promised" by politicians and in the meantime to import it from abroad because during the war there will be a problem with supplies and we will be in serious trouble because We will not have our tanks and there will be nowhere to repair them
The ultimate question is (prepare, gonna be hard!): Is it better to be overpowered when noone attacks you (but your neighbour is unpredictable, paranoid, savage idiot), or to be underpowered if they attack?
And there's another thing: Maybe that overpowerness (is there such word in English at all? lol) can stop the intentions of that paranoid psycho sshole..? The key word: "deterrence".
Finally someone is saying that Poland is "central;", because it is and always been. Poland is a heart of Europe for over a 1000 years!
Thank you!
I absolutely love seeing Polands rise. You wait. After the Ukraine War is over both nations will have a strong alliance. Then after Ukraine's recovery we'll see two strong nations in Eastern Europe that will help influence its politics.
maybe ,if politicians on both sides start talking to each other, and explain all disputes and grievances then maybe so, without it would be hard to talk about any relations, especially in Poland because our politicians argue with each other like a bunch of preschoolers, which presents us abroad as a nation of kids moaning for money, who themselves can not do anything and can not conduct discussions in English (our president can not fluently talk in English, and even we as Poles can see it, because now learning English is even in kindergarten
@Black Dragon ahhhhh, happens with every alliance and infighting with politicians. I mean just look at our politics in the US. We've been squabbling with each other for over two centuries now lol
Ukraine..game over.
for starters ukraine is not a nation ...for starters give me a name of their last king ..so comparing some medial creation with 1000 years kingdom is a fuckin joke
It's better to spend huge money preparing to war to defend your homeland even if it may not happen, than lossing your homeland and possibly relatives cause you spent and did not enough.
You list more than 10 000 Polish soldiers in Ukrain... Good luck😂😂😂
You should be recognized as a Polish citizen.
Haha nah, I just have an interest and enjoy the country
Idiota jesteś kurwa co za dzban
I will finish watching this video in a moment.
Right now I must say: Hat's off to you sir. Fantastic video.
Cheers buddy. I'm trying to learn as much as possible and that's what my channel is about... As well as throwing in the odd opinion I have
I'm Dutch and I have worked with alot of people of Poland. They work hard and can handle their drinks, not poeple to take lightly.
You dont understand , The goal is to secure all countrys around :) Like Latvia Lithuania Estonia
Since Putin said years ago, that he wants all the old Russian terratories back, I can see why these "old terratories" are nervous.
Hi, I am Piotr from Poland ;) regards
First task of an army is to scare enemy. Also we need to be able to protect Baltic States - so we need to be ready to take russian enclave to secure lifeline for them.
Si vis pacem, para bellum - as the Romans used to say. We don’t want to be caught off guard ever again.
Makes sense :)
Rob, we are not the same. It's a common mistake :). We may look the same but we are different people. Of course it is not enough reason to start a war ... for normal people. Leaders start a war but to do that they need support of their own people and Putin has it. Freedom, democracy are not granted.
Well done . Poland 🇵🇱
Poland needs to have a big army because we have a border with Russia (Kaliningrad exclave) and Belarus. If Ukraine fell we would have another hundreds of kilometers of enemy border. I think that we should get some money from other countries on maintaining our army, cauz we protect not only ourselves but also rest of the Europe. I think that Finland, Baltics, Poland and Romania should receive annual payments for maintaining their armies cauz lets be honest Portugal, Spain, Ireland, Belgium, the Netherlands and the list goes on do not face any threat near their lands. We also need to have offensive warfare to be able to counter any russian attacks. Russians are mentally different than Europe. 1 They respect only hard power. If you try making a compromise with them they see it as a sign of weakness and immediately want to abuse you. 2 Russian society can be very poor and delighted only if Russia is winning, conquering. Russians love to suffer for greater good (Russia invades and takes other lands) 3 They are much more asian ordes ethics than european. So you can force other to do anything, be very brutal and do not regard human life. For them its human meat, their famous proverb is "women gonna give birth to new babies" Russia should collapse or become next North Korea
Russians are different species. Not compatible with civilized world
If you want to defend europe then go to ukraine. Poland need strong economy, not army.
@@pogo_369 you are either russian troll or just being ignorant. Trust me in Poland we know better what we need. Strong army to defend ourselves in case of attack on us. Secondly with stronger army you become force to reckon with.
Well, in times when we were trying to warn the western Europe that Putin is not the right man to make a deal with, we were also called "paranoid", "Russophobes" and so on. I understand your perspective as a someone, who lives safely on his distant island, far away from the Ukrainian war - for us this war is happening at our doorstep. As much as I appreciate the alliances Poland is part of, I also remember how those alliances are usually ending up for us, Poles. Look at all this delay in providing any military support for Ukraine by countries like Germany - that is why I'm not surprised that the polish government is interested in buying such a huge amount of weapon. Putin is an unpredictable lunatic and we need to be prepared for literally everything. If that means we are paranoid then so be it.
Article 5 says that attacking one NATO country is like attacking all of them , true.
The downside is that article 5 doesnt mention any military intervention in that case .
Basically NATO members once one of other member coutries gets attacked dont have to participate in any battle.
Article 5 is so loosely formulated that you as a member country can send letters to Putin to asking him to stop attack on other member country and you already fulfilled criteria for enacting Article 5 .
As a Pole I'm pretty sure that once Russia attacks Poland we will be on our own again.
France will do same as they do now wanting to „negotiate„ , Germqny wont bat and eye due to being dependent on russian gas ,UK will once again print „stop the war„ pamphlets .
exactly Nato is good only on paper , because even now Countries like germany as a example will play politics because they don't want russia get angry because they don't want trade with gas from russia to stop , because russian gas is cheap , and for some peopole cheaper gas is more important than stopping a maniac who rules a country that for 1000 years of its existence has done nothing but introduce "Russian protection" on their neighbors
It's not insane, it's not paranoid. We know in Poland that we can count only on ourselves. It may happen like in 1939 that our allies will leave us. We don;t want to depend on anyone anymore. We want to live in peace. We want peace - that'w why we have to be prepared for war.
My favorite Polish TH-camr!
When you live in Poland question isn't if Russia attack but when Russia attack
Uwielbiam twoje reakcje o polskich wideo! Sam jestem polakiem ale mieszkam od 15 lat w Niemczech i jestem dumny, że jestem polakiem! :)
Cheers buddy 🙂
dojczlant dojczlant uber alez
The point is to be strong enough to lose just 1 soldier, and that only because he gets lost on the way to Moscow and not die on the battlefield.
IMO case of polish militarization is clear. If war will come then we will be able to protect our homes. If war will not come because we will be hard enemy then this is gonna be a win-win. If we will not participate in war with Russia then there is always way to sell equipment like we did with Ukraine and then buy newer and better. I don’t see this militarization as a waiting of money this is the only way to keep Poland in the map of the world.
We`re learn by our history. I hope... "if you want peace, prepare to war" or something :)
Deterrence spending is better than a war so hopefully those weapons will never be used.
The sad part in the Ukrainian Russian war on both sides men and women are killed people who are fathers mothers sons and daughters
Yep it's awful isn't it
Poland basically embraced the Swiss model of Armed Neutrality. Russians are proud of their Nuclear arsenal so Poland decided to invest heavily into systems that can destroy Missiles/Planes that can deliver this nuclear payload before they enter the country.
You know, we trust u in 39, but we get nothing. Now we try to trust u, but its better have power turn trust on other countries
Greatings from Poland 💪
Polish military power will be improved to the point where Russia would be afraid even to stars a war with Poland. That is real military grade
We don't want war in Poland again but if it comes to us we must be ready
You lost 10 000 Polish soldiers and 200 officers in Ukraine. Do you really want to fight Russians for Dementia Biden😂😂😂
@@monaliza3334 what we lose? mr putin dont write to me bcs i dont have time for you fuck your family, life and rest what u have
@monaliza3334
You're sounds like russian troll.
Poland gets involved in a war with Russia 🇷🇺, we're seeing Poland caught up in another tragic war, 80 years after the conflict with Germany (1939-45). 🇩🇪 Deja vu, only with players switching roles.
On December 17, 2021, Putin's Russia demanded the withdrawal of NATO across the Oder river (a river on the Polish-German border). Joker
It's better to have it and be prepared than not having it and needing it.
Rob... I like you very much... and yes, we ,Polacks , are crazy..
Thank You for your support.
Hope to meet you in person someday.
You need an extremely powerful navy and aircraft while we need an extremely powerful land army and land anti-aircraft anti-vessel systems.... Together we have everything ;)
But the reality will be different - Poland will invest in least required weapon type - to make sure it looses or doesn't gain any advantage. Save my words.
There is a saying that it is better to be warrior in a garden then gardner in a war, Poland prefer to be ready than look at history repeating itself.
1: Poland signs contract with Korea to build Korean tanks and more In Poland. = Korea sends all technology and factory’s intro Poland.
2: Poland have biggest in Europe Trotyl factory and now that factory grow fast.
3: Poland have 4 big Cluster ammunition factories
4: In background Poland is build huge hi tech technology centers and labs, cooperate all strategical factories intro one/3 groups. One of them is WB Electronics and now as a WB group.
That kick up everything 10-20y ahead in technology/labs/factories and military engineering that will made new hi end engineering class.
So Poland now have engineering point of start at Abrams and new Korean technology, so everything that now Polish engineers and workers build, learn will be minimum on that level. That what I call “skill upgrade”.
Poland follows US and Nato orders' and somehow ends up like Ukraine.
Glad you can take a critical look at the whole situation.
Article 5:
Article 5 provides that if a NATO Ally is the victim of an armed attack, each and every other member of the Alliance will consider this act of violence as an armed attack against all members and will take the actions it deems necessary to assist the Ally attacked. Article 5 only says: will take the actions it deems necessary. What if Poland is attacked by Russia with nuke for example and then German deems necessary action is a convoy with helmets to assist the Ally attacked. It should be clarified what necessary action really means in such a situation. We Polish dont want to become sandwich once again. Im just skeptical about Article 5
if not my 47 years of age ,i would be back in the army serving proudly under the eagle on my forhead
Usual readiness. It took decades for Poland to recover economically. Everything was lost , lives , houses , monuments ... Unfortunately , Russia 's mentality remained the same .
Poland is not going to have a war with Russia. We do not have any imperialistic ambitions, our standard of living on average is quite high. But in case someone will make a stupid decision... they might run out of cannon fodder.
Bo my nie błagamy o wolność, my o nią walczymy 💪🇵🇱💓
I czesto ją tracimy poprzez ufanie niewlasciwym siłom, ktore nas zawsze potem zdradzają.
@@Spark_Iskra_z_Polski Przez własną głupotę, a nie przez ufanie niewłaściwym siłom. Wszyscy w całej Europie wiedzieli i widzieli w 1939 roku, że UK i Francja fizycznie nie mają siły aby przyjść Polsce z pomocą, tylko nie Polacy. Majaczyliśmy coś nawet, o wejściu brytyjskiej Royal Navy na Bałtyk - ta, przez kontrolowane przez Niemców cieśniny duńskie, bądź podziemnym tunelem.
Great Britain currently has 227 tanks. Over the last year, Poland has delivered over 300 of its tanks to Ukraine... In the event of a potential war with Russia, several hundred tanks may not be enough.
Actually 10,000 tanks won't be enough.
Yu should check out Polands ‘Hell March’ 😎
I hope that Poland will cooperate with Korea to strengthen the military power of Poland and Europe, and I emphasize that Poland, like Korea, shares certain geopolitical challenges.
Poles do not make purchases only for themselves, they will probably defend other countries to when the W hour comes 👍
We are the same. Thank you!
100 % agree with you thanks for all your reaction great job
I think the more probable than russian strike on Poland is russian strike on Estonia, but then we need to be fully prepared to defend our Estonian allies.
Second in 1989 there was a partially free election, Solidarity won all seats it was allowed to start for and Tadeusz Mazowiecki became first non communist prime minister since ww2. He was great man. If there are some videos about him in English you should certainly watch them. He later became national hero in Bosnia, after being UN emissary during war in Yugoslavia.