2.00m maximum width allowed. Back then from 1997 to (2014?) it was 1.80m only. Adding that you need to put an V6 engine with turbos + electric engine + batteries, you need more lenght than for an atmospheric V10. Also tyres are bigger. All in all, wider, longer, todays car obviously bigger. Though it shocked me as well seeing them near each other like this, great vid!
@@cirian75 Mansell's FW14B was nice, and the guy is underrated nowadays, but a hell of a good driver. Schumacher carved out his own legend at Ferrari, but the guy was a great talent even in the early 90's in the Renault
I would have liked to see SF1000 with refueling and "1 engine / 1 weekend"-rule. In 2004 cars consumed about 75l/100km, but these days they are allowed to consume about 45l/100km and 1 engine must last for 7 grand prix.
is it just me or are the pop up adverts for other clips very annoying? Please just add a few seconds at the end of the clip (after the one i am watching has concluded) for the pop ups. Most of the time the pop ups block important/interesting parts of the clip.
..ERS adds size and weight. What happens when we allow only 100kg of fuel per race for F2004? That's 40% decrease from what they typically used back then. Also are current cheap Pirelli spec-tires better than tire-war era Bridgestones?
If you would give f2004 new technology it wouldnt be the same car anymore🤦 And ofcourse v10 is more powrful than v6 so I think modern cars are much better
@@brekezek Monaco has always been as boring as it was now. In the 80's one famous driver said that driving F1 car at Monaco is similar to driving with bike in a living room. In 1992 Mansell couldn't pass Senna despite having few seconds per lap faster car. In 2001 Coulthard was stuck behind Bernoldi for 35 laps etc. There have been overtaking when a) it rains b) when they have had "cheese tires".
you guys are simplifying alot of things here. today's F1 cars are the fastest F1 cars ever. the 1.6 V6T alone makes more than a 1000bhp. they have the most advanced aerodynamics we have seen in F1, creating 5 times the downforce of their own weight. these two factors alone make the 140kg deficit pretty much useless and there's still so many details to go through.
Senna vs Mansell at Monaco some 30 years ago.. those cars were tiny compared to modern F1 but that didn't exactly help Mansell in Monaco. The ''problem'' with Monaco is the track itself, not so much the cars.
@@quaco24 and the cars grew bigger. The OC said Monaco is bad because the cars are so big and i was just trying to point out that Monaco has always been a bad track for overtaking for literal decades
@@lunasilvermoon2283 Actually the 1992 regs allowed cars to be 2150mm wide. Current width is 2000mm. Actually watch that race again. The track is no narrower, the cars are wider but really spindly looking, with nowhere near as much aero, that's why they look smaller. They're not. Monaco simply hasn't been suited to F1 since the 70s.
These new formula1 cars are just not made like the smaller versions of F1 cars, hence the tracks have not kept up with making the the track wider to accommodate them. Im really speaking of Monaco and Canade first and formost. Those tracks are just too small for them now, and its really boring to watch those races now.
Monaco has to be the most boring track ever, maybe the drivers think it’s the bees knees but us fans are robbed of a race. They should award the race win after qualifying lol
2020 are the fastest F1 cars ever, the regulations are probably going to make the 2021 cars slower, so therefore the 2020 cars will most likely be the fastest f1 cars in the next 5-8 years.
@@freddiemercury3882 but so fat... Racing cars should be light. I mean, almost +150kg, with same tyres the 2020 car obviously uses them more than the 2004 one. Being the fastest but having to pit more often is not necessarily giving you the win.
It's not a fair comparison, back then the rule were different, they had to qualify with the tank almost full of fuel because no refueling were allowed after the qualy
The 2001 FERRARI F1 : Chasis carbon fibre, independent back and front suspension + pushrod activated torsion springs, V10 3.0 Lt 90 degrees engine naturally aspired ,825 Hp at 17.300 rpm ,rear wheel drive with a 7 semi-automatic sequential limited slip, 600kg.... .............. The 2004 FERRARI F1: Basically the same specs as the 2001 F1 with a little more HP 865 at 18.300 rpm. Doble wishbones push rod operated coil springs over shock absorbers, multiplate clutch. 605 Kg Huge aerodinamic changes from the 2001 F1 ..They aggressively improved tyre grip and durability which made the car much faster in all aspects.................................................... THE 2020 FERRARI F1 : Change in aerodinamics, Push rod front suspension, Pull rod rear suspension, 1.6 Lt direct injection V6 turbocharged engine limited to 15.000 rpm (so we don`t know excatly the Horsepower and people don`t agree on that) plus electric motor for kinetic and thermal energy for recovery sistems, an 8 forward gear transmission, self ventilated carbon disk brakes with electronic control on the rear brakes 743Kg and a much longer 5,712 mm car bodywork.
Overtaking in Monaco was already tedious back then, so I can't imagine how ridiculous the race must look like with cars twice (exagerating here) as big.
That was the Alfa Romeo V10 from the Alfa 164 racing prototype which became Ferrari's F1 engine, the guy who did it (Pino d'Agostino) moved from Alfa to Ferrari F1 team
Creo que se están pasando en la dimensión de los coches, hay pistas de la vieja escuela muy angostas donde con estos coches mucho más grandes es casi imposible adelantar.
@@missourimongoose7643 if they are going to do that they should be spec cars that the teams are only given a week to tune. Setup changes only, no changing parts. I’ve thought for a while that it would be an interesting idea for f1 to bring a fleet of 20 FIA spec rally cars to races. Do an exhibition race with the drivers as a show for the fans and of the race is rained out the rally race can count the for points for the race.
Actually over a race distance the 2004 is faster. At Imola Schumacher completed the race quicker than last years winner and Schumacher had an extra chicane to negotiate every lap. The thing that holds todays cars back is the tires. Back in 2004 the drivers drove the cars much harder than todays cars because the tires could take the punishment . Todays F1 is a tire endurance race where the cars can only be driven flat out for a few laps before they fall apart. This is the advantage that the 2004 has as well as being lighter. The biggesr advantage the 2020 car has is acceleration but once the battery is depleted its advantage is gone. That is why the recharge during a lap is so important today.
OK, the size of todays cars is ridiculous, it's a wonder there's any overtaking!
Monaco...
that wonder is DRS
@@AhmadRiyal tech enhanced passing with pit stop passing.. It's not racing anymore... It's strategy and technology
No ain’t got a clue as to what car won that I think it was a Ferrari though
The new 2020 car looks like a school bus compared to the 2004 and 2001 F1 Ferraris. Nothing good looking about it at all.
I had no idea of how ridiculously gigantic the current cars are.
It’s to get more air and downforce
What is gigantic? It's the horsepower only. Give the old cars that fat tires of today and only 100hp more , and 2020 will be nowhere.
@@mr-spyder The size is gigantic
2.00m maximum width allowed. Back then from 1997 to (2014?) it was 1.80m only.
Adding that you need to put an V6 engine with turbos + electric engine + batteries, you need more lenght than for an atmospheric V10.
Also tyres are bigger.
All in all, wider, longer, todays car obviously bigger. Though it shocked me as well seeing them near each other like this, great vid!
@@maxouvelo2693 That's why Cosworth leaving F1.
Its like looking 2 F1 cars against a truck vacuum cleaner......
😂😂 u made my day .. ur so rite
Best comment eva
Absolutely!
Two epic sounding cars against the worlds fastest vacuum cleaner. 2001 and 2004 cars much nicer looking too. Please can we go back in time.
I will give you the sound on the 04 but out side of that nope
Yeah but 2020 is safer for sure
A wise man once said, bring back the V10s
didn't Vettel say V12s?
V16 but rather the vesells more smaller. Essentially. To 🤔
That's unrealistic! The F1 2020 car has to spin at least once :D
S🅱️IN
@@jakob_sla no, s🅱️inala
Mazes🅱️in
Because that is leclerc's car not Seb's 🤣🤣🤣
The Ferrari F1 2004 Will always be the best Formula One car
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MP4-18 is all time best f1 car 🤘
@@jyips mp4-4 bro 💪
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this
That F2004 is insane.
They should bring back 2000 spec with slicks and modern safety features. The current cars are way too huge and too reliant on aero.
The car is actually more huge because of the ''berceau'' safety core where the cokpit siege is ^^
Reduce front wing. Better for passing too.
the resistance of the parts also increased absurdly, the wear of the 2004 car was absurd, much of its mechanics only lasted one race
the size of the car does present with the modern safety standards because it has more impact area
Damn that F1 2020 is a huge hulking beast.
best F1 car forever F2004 Ferrari michael schumacher that will never change
Senna's MP4 McLaren
@@RDSports5 Or the FW14B
Senna's MP4/5 and MP4/6
Mansell's FW14B
Schumacher's F2004
@@cirian75 Mansell's FW14B was nice, and the guy is underrated nowadays, but a hell of a good driver. Schumacher carved out his own legend at Ferrari, but the guy was a great talent even in the early 90's in the Renault
McLaren MP20 without reliability issues would have been up there
I would have liked to see the F2004 with DRS. Would be a beast.
I was thinking the same thing...
I would have liked to see SF1000 with refueling and "1 engine / 1 weekend"-rule. In 2004 cars consumed about 75l/100km, but these days they are allowed to consume about 45l/100km and 1 engine must last for 7 grand prix.
Even if...the Sf1000 was perhaps the worst f1 Ferrari in history... We should see the same comparison with the sf90, or at least the sf21...
I would have liked to see a real video...
and with full slick tyres like the 2021 its unfair to have the cars on semi slick and on slick
is it just me or are the pop up adverts for other clips very annoying? Please just add a few seconds at the end of the clip (after the one i am watching has concluded) for the pop ups. Most of the time the pop ups block important/interesting parts of the clip.
F1 2004 is the best var that ever exists under our sun, the Sound and the speed uhhhhhh !!!!!
No ,is mercedes w11
Give that f2004 slicks, ers and drs...
trust me just soft slicks
Aleksandar Stojanovic The ERS would make it heavier, so no,
..ERS adds size and weight. What happens when we allow only 100kg of fuel per race for F2004? That's 40% decrease from what they typically used back then. Also are current cheap Pirelli spec-tires better than tire-war era Bridgestones?
@@kimnice bridgestone is better isnt? that's one of the things happen when GP USA races only with bridgestone user
If you would give f2004 new technology it wouldnt be the same car anymore🤦 And ofcourse v10 is more powrful than v6 so I think modern cars are much better
The size difference of the cars is insane
Looks like Batman’s car. Dark Knight’s car in red
Which is why Monaco is more boring than ever
I don't think it was boring in the past, but with the narrow streets and wider and bigger cars, it's a parade with very little passing
@@johngallagher912 i dont know, but iant it also harder to pass a longer car? you have to outbreak a whole meter longer.
@@brekezek
Monaco has always been as boring as it was now. In the 80's one famous driver said that driving F1 car at Monaco is similar to driving with bike in a living room. In 1992 Mansell couldn't pass Senna despite having few seconds per lap faster car. In 2001 Coulthard was stuck behind Bernoldi for 35 laps etc. There have been overtaking when a) it rains b) when they have had "cheese tires".
Ferrari Formula One cars from the early-2000s have to be some of the most beautiful in the history of the sport.
The most beautiful F1 is the F641 from 90. Followed by Mp4/4-5 from 88-89 and the FW14 from 92. 🍻
745 kg vs 605 kg and v10 3.0 L vs v6 1.6 L and if the 2004 Ferrari had slick tires they would still be incomparable, the 2004 Ferrari was a monster
Also the V10 was atmospheric, todays V6 have turbos who take space + electric engine + batteries.
@@maxouvelo2693 a
you guys are simplifying alot of things here. today's F1 cars are the fastest F1 cars ever. the 1.6 V6T alone makes more than a 1000bhp. they have the most advanced aerodynamics we have seen in F1, creating 5 times the downforce of their own weight. these two factors alone make the 140kg deficit pretty much useless and there's still so many details to go through.
@@schkann1384agreed
and this ladies and gentlemen is why monaco is now no good for f1, look how wide and big a modern car is
Senna vs Mansell at Monaco some 30 years ago.. those cars were tiny compared to modern F1 but that didn't exactly help Mansell in Monaco. The ''problem'' with Monaco is the track itself, not so much the cars.
The track has been made significantly wider since when Senna and Mansel raced though.
@@quaco24 and the cars grew bigger. The OC said Monaco is bad because the cars are so big and i was just trying to point out that Monaco has always been a bad track for overtaking for literal decades
@@lunasilvermoon2283 Actually the 1992 regs allowed cars to be 2150mm wide. Current width is 2000mm. Actually watch that race again. The track is no narrower, the cars are wider but really spindly looking, with nowhere near as much aero, that's why they look smaller. They're not. Monaco simply hasn't been suited to F1 since the 70s.
F1 2020 like monster compare to others. So big.😁😁😁
Yes and the tracks havent made adjustments so that they can properly race on them. Its just more like a high speed PARADE, and its really boring now.
Are the new car this much larger than the older ?
Didn't find numbers for Ferrari's current car:
2021 Mercedes W12: Length 500cm, width 200cm, height 95cm and weight 752kg
2004 Ferrari F2004: Length 450cm, width 180cm, height 96cm and weight 605kg
1996 Ferrari F310: Length 430cm, width 200cm, height 97cm
@@kimnice great! Tks !
@@kimnice i believe the current car is longer than 500cm. The Aston Martin F1 car is over 560cm long!
V10 THE BEST SOUND
These new formula1 cars are just not made like the smaller versions of F1 cars, hence the tracks have not kept up with making the the track wider to accommodate them. Im really speaking of Monaco and Canade first and formost. Those tracks are just too small for them now, and its really boring to watch those races now.
Monaco has to be the most boring track ever, maybe the drivers think it’s the bees knees but us fans are robbed of a race. They should award the race win after qualifying lol
wkwkwkwk... 2020 car is so slow (in reality), can't compare with 2004 car ( magnificent f1 car in history )
@@oaz8 it means laugh or "haha" in Indonesian
2020 are the fastest F1 cars ever, the regulations are probably going to make the 2021 cars slower, so therefore the 2020 cars will most likely be the fastest f1 cars in the next 5-8 years.
@@freddiemercury3882 but so fat... Racing cars should be light. I mean, almost +150kg, with same tyres the 2020 car obviously uses them more than the 2004 one. Being the fastest but having to pit more often is not necessarily giving you the win.
Thanks for the all great comments and stay safe and I love your video
Qualifying Times for Ferrari at Spa:
2000=1:51.552
2004=1:53.755
2020=1:42.996
It's not a fair comparison, back then the rule were different, they had to qualify with the tank almost full of fuel because no refueling were allowed after the qualy
That's not really a fair comparison
2:06 "Safety" car...
I did enjoy the clip though. Thanks
This is like the father chasing their son for fun then you have the second son that tripped and went back into the house
The 2001 FERRARI F1 : Chasis carbon fibre, independent back and front suspension + pushrod activated torsion springs, V10 3.0 Lt 90 degrees engine naturally aspired ,825 Hp at 17.300 rpm ,rear wheel drive with a 7 semi-automatic sequential limited slip, 600kg.... .............. The 2004 FERRARI F1: Basically the same specs as the 2001 F1 with a little more HP 865 at 18.300 rpm. Doble wishbones push rod operated coil springs over shock absorbers, multiplate clutch. 605 Kg Huge aerodinamic changes from the 2001 F1 ..They aggressively improved tyre grip and durability which made the car much faster in all aspects....................................................
THE 2020 FERRARI F1 : Change in aerodinamics, Push rod front suspension, Pull rod rear suspension, 1.6 Lt direct injection V6 turbocharged engine limited to 15.000 rpm (so we don`t know excatly the Horsepower and people don`t agree on that) plus electric motor for kinetic and thermal energy for recovery sistems, an 8 forward gear transmission, self ventilated carbon disk brakes with electronic control on the rear brakes 743Kg and a much longer 5,712 mm car bodywork.
dang 2004 managed to hold the lead against 2020, thats pretty good considering theres almost a 2 decade gap in technology
If we ever needed proof that F1 needs the V12 / V10s this is it!
what is the proof though? That they are faster?
@@loganblair8402 i think not
Racing isn’t an aural thing. Sound doesn’t win races.
People are failing to realize the 2020 car could finish the race without refueling.
Look how big it is vs the other 2 though
@@dannygernaat9961 it's STUPID large lol
personally im in favor of smaller fuel tanks. pit strategy is supposed to be part of racing.
@@eclipsegst9419 it's not that the fuel tanks are necessarily larger. The new engines are that much more efficient + there's a fuel flow limit.
@@juaneer Oh i know. i genuinely think they should be shrunk to compensate so that pit strategy remains more relevant.
arent you the guy who did monaco broadcasting this year? terrible camera work for a great comparison
Overtaking in Monaco was already tedious back then, so I can't imagine how ridiculous the race must look like with cars twice (exagerating here) as big.
What is the name of this game? Is there for ps4?
Ferrari 2002 & 2004 👍👍👍
Ferrari 2020 👎
Hey! The f2004 and 2001 are on hards! 😂 not fair lol
Any chance of getting this with the trickster f2019? The f2020 was FIA capped
F2004 ❤ Iconic car
Well, thanks for telling us which was which!
If you were the cameras director you'd be fired
This video is just a testament of how big F1 cars are now. The SF1000 is a *BEHEMOTH* compared with the F2004!
Never mind the cars, I can’t keep up with camera changes lol. Cool clip though bro
The 2004 car practically looks like a go kart compared to the oil tanker 2020 car
This game graphics real to 90 %
You're right. We are just one step from not being able to rell what's real and what's not. Frightening if you think about it.
I did the same experiment here, in Spa. The SF70H is 3 to 4 seconds slower than F2004, but a 2020 car put at least 2 seconds on it.
That is the 2020 car:
racesimstudio.com/formula-hybrid-2020
Faz da Willians 1992 xWillians 2020
McLaren 89 x 2015
Now make the 2020 start on the top of the line :)
What happened to the DRS?
Is it just just me or is the F2001 bigger (or at least longer) than the F2004? Or just closer to the camera (in the thumbnail)?
V10 forever!
That was the Alfa Romeo V10 from the Alfa 164 racing prototype which became Ferrari's F1 engine, the guy who did it (Pino d'Agostino) moved from Alfa to Ferrari F1 team
The 01 and 04 are 1:18 scale while the 20 is 1:16
2004 has to win
Attack of the giant F1 car.
are proportions correct? jeez, model '20 is huge. makes 00' &´04 models looks like toy cars
Is the 2020 so mutch bigger than the 2004? At the End you can see it very good 🤔
Current cars are about 50cm longer, 20cm wider and 150kg heavier.
Y como quedó el podium?
Put F2004 on at least 2009 slicks an it will lap that hybrid trucks in 10 laps.
but the 2020 cars are faster anyway
@@shielded7226 f2004 on slicks will be faster
@@Vlaadik the 2020 cars smack the f2004 on the high speed corners
@@shielded7226 it's just a problem of the grooved tires, but we'll never have the exact answer, because f2004 is a history.
@@Vlaadik not really, downforce is the most important factor here, not slick tires.
F2004 with slicks and DRS. GG
well same works to other side F2021 with v12... GG
The car is getting bigger?
Creo que se están pasando en la dimensión de los coches, hay pistas de la vieja escuela muy angostas donde con estos coches mucho más grandes es casi imposible adelantar.
2020 F1 gets in straights just because gear ratio change my mind
Crazy efficient 1.6l v6 hybrid, Insane aero, astonishing grip. If this would be full size race, modern car would destroy both cars.
Were those 2000cars so much smaller,really?
Dear god.. the new F1 cars look like the size of a BMW M8 GTE
Go kart vs truck
Awesome 👍😎😎
It looks like dolphin vs whale. The Ferrari 2020 is faster on the straights thats the only advantage
Its more fuel efficient, its safer, it is faster in corners... the list goes on
Keep fighting Michael
Those 2004 and 2001 cars looks like toys comparing to SF1000
I absolutely hate the F1 crash bars over the cockpit. They ruin an elegant car.
GT cars are louder than F1 cars
F2004 Best sound
もうちょっと長く見たかったなぁ〜！次はモナコで😁
At Monaco Please..
0:48 feel the layer of that sound
Diferentes neumaticos abria q verlos con los mismos
2020 medios y los otros duros
Size difference is for real??? And those small cars are v10/12???...
Current cars are BIG!
You're out of your mind if you think the 2020 version wouldn't win though.
it's look like that track is from Belgium,not from Spain.
that 2001 was a good looking race car
Schumacher, Barrichello and Raikkonen.
Unfair comparison, they should all have had slicks on
Admit it
F1 became fat and slow
Give that 2004 Ferrari a 3.5L V10, proper soft gripping full slicks and DRS, remove fuel restrictions the 2020 car would be nowhere!
Who wins ?
Ferrari have got all of the podium
Is f2001 that bad a car?
The Ferrari 2020 was the week car in the Formula 1 history.
WeAk
The thumbnail shows exactly why Monaco was the worst race ever. You can't race cars that large on a track that tight, there just isn't room for it.
Each team should modify a Ariel atom just for Monaco lol
@@missourimongoose7643 if they are going to do that they should be spec cars that the teams are only given a week to tune. Setup changes only, no changing parts. I’ve thought for a while that it would be an interesting idea for f1 to bring a fleet of 20 FIA spec rally cars to races. Do an exhibition race with the drivers as a show for the fans and of the race is rained out the rally race can count the for points for the race.
@@wabash9000 It would make Monaco interesting that's for sure
No DRS?
The turbo should just eat the older cars up old cars sound better but New cars faster
Actually over a race distance the 2004 is faster. At Imola Schumacher completed the race quicker than last years winner and Schumacher had an extra chicane to negotiate every lap. The thing that holds todays cars back is the tires. Back in 2004 the drivers drove the cars much harder than todays cars because the tires could take the punishment . Todays F1 is a tire endurance race where the cars can only be driven flat out for a few laps before they fall apart. This is the advantage that the 2004 has as well as being lighter. The biggesr advantage the 2020 car has is acceleration but once the battery is depleted its advantage is gone. That is why the recharge during a lap is so important today.
Ferrari de hoje não ganha nem de um FIAT 147 kkkk
JAJJA
Confirmed: extra speed and downforce for Marlboro sponsored cars
How on earth did The SF1000 pass The F2001 and how on earth was it on The F2004's Back Car Wing all this time??
No s🅱inalla for the 2020 car? This isn't accurate.
Like the opening scene in Quantum of Solace.
The 2004 Ferrari is like Mercedes today, and Ferrari 2020 is a... good car...
The tires are 1/4 larger too. 2020 cars are a pos