I've been leathercrafting for nearly a decade, my mentor has been doing it for half a century, always strop your blades, even ceramic, if you do it right you'll never have to grind them
I use ceramic blades exclusively and always strop. If you’ve cased the leather properly and strop often there’s no reason to sharpen on a stone. I usually wait til the wax stops releasing air. But I mix orange oil and stearic acid in the wax for flexion and durability.
I've been wanting to get into leather working for some time and this video was so informative! Thanks and now i finally feel confident enough to try it out!
Very nice piece brother! I was not expecting you to join the knee pieces with the thigh pieces for some reason! Still though it turned out really amazing! How long does something like this take you to make?
Beautiful work as always. Thank you. I miss Heavy Fighting so much. Due to some injuries. My Doctor will not let me fight heavy anymore. I can still fight Rapier though.
If you're doing blunted steel they'll certainly hold up, but they get murdalized more for sure given the narrow edge of steel. I'd also be tempted to experiment more with water hardening if I was working more with the HEMA community. But I do have HEMA people buying my patterns and making armor with them on the regular, but I personally don't do it much.
@@DarkHorseWorkshop maybe something like this www.pinterest.at/pin/441352832208485416/ www.pinterest.at/pin/831617887419574515/?d=t&mt www.pinterest.at/pin/606719381030570111/ is quetzalcoatl, the second I don't know if it's Mayan
Waxed leather vs. sharpened steel is very much a loss for waxed leather. The only reason to wax harden leather armor is 1: for blunt force combat like rattan fighting, 2: it's easy to do. Baking or boiling in some form of cuir bouilli is far more period and protective against steel.
@@DarkHorseWorkshop hehe, had to go back and watch your video to refresh. Always enjoyable viewing your videos. Times change friend. My live steel combat group disbanded in 2020. And I could not get my own order up and running. Rare it is, for people to commit & follow through. And I no longer participate in gaurding castle at festival. Your answer, now that my brain has caught up; Wax Cord is very resilliant in day to day use of standing, walking, running, climbing, carrying various things for my elderly host & hostess to promote their ideal life in a Tn castle. However, despite using the trench trick to keep my stich work just below the surface of my armor and double stitching...the wax cord can fray & break down - beneath the riggors of Live Steel fighting in rain soaked environments. In middle Tn we can experience all four seasons in one week's time during May. We found that anchored straps on bracers & elbow cobs don't hold as long as we prefer them to. So, re-stitching before each practice & event became cumbersome. Oh, ofcourse we embraced our duties. 😇 Well, it was discovered that carpet cord is much more resiliant and still looks period. On castle grounds we looked period and sharp & less repairs were required between practices and full on combat. Most people whom are just discovering these two sports are likely thinking two guys going at it like I tag you I get a point, reset. He tags my head and gets two points, reset, and so on. What they discover once in this sport are full on battles taking place in a somewhat organized fashion. You know, its all on behalf of one's own honor vs everybody else's honor. That said, sh** happens & you gotta be trained too survive it the victor. Its just about the individual, the one...its about the Order you belong to, the House you represent. So, we often locked arms, shields, rolled on the ground, passing from 1st to our 2nd, before scrounging for whatever became our 3rd. I lost to a cloak pin, once. Really. It was fascinating & educational in a very memorable way amongst good friends. As it should be. Though some people just get bent and there is that one person for the day, in his own special way. So, from all entanglements armor straps and leather stitching gets pulled everywhich way with increasing intensity. The carpet cord held up. Its nearly indestructable, provided the user keeps his gear clean between practices & events.
Per my comments; Veterens sufferring from PTSD and whom are getting the help they need are going to find these sports theropuetic. Nothing better than passing blows & sweating it out. Its all meant to be in good fun. You support group are your House members. That said, for rest of us with stable minds...we must be prepared for any fighter just having a bad day, where...his or her life just flipped a switch. So, its important too know how to mentally & emotionally process their switch in a matter of seconds. And remember, you did sign that waiver. Just be prepared & push yourself to be noble about it. 😎
Ok I was literally thinking of making leg armor, never said anything out loud. Now this is in my recommendations... THE ALGORITHM IS IN MY HEAD GET IT OUT
I like your method for doing the brass rivets. I actually do copper rivets that way for halters and bridles when I want a more wild west look but I have a tool that peens it evenly when you stick the stem of the rivet into it. Have you tried that method? If so, do you prefer the anvil-peen hammer method?
@@DarkHorseWorkshop Got the war belt and an armor bundle. I do rattan combat in Louisiana in the United states. Much love for all the care you put into your work and videos!
Hey there! Great looking stuff and have missed you! I have a question on your setup if you don't mind answering: what is the white table made of that you do your cutting on? It looks like a massive cutting cutting board and I've never seen anything like it. Hope all is going well!
So I have a question, maybe you’ve already said it and commenters can send me to the vid. But can you sculp the drawings on leather that you buy from lets say the market. Which I’m guessing is threated with stuff already. Because I got a piece of purple leather I would like to use for a wallet.
Not sure what you mean by sculp, but if you mean carve the leather with images then no you can't. Well.. you could cut it and it would woooork technically but it would look like crap. It needs to be vegetable tanned leather with the process I layed out here.
@@DarkHorseWorkshop first thank you for replying! And yeah meant carve, sorry. Couldn't come to mind so I said sculp 😅...but yeah that's what I thought. Thank you for the info!!
You can check the tannage pretty simply by cutting a small piece, if the cross section is a greyish colour then it's chrome tanned and won't work, as said it needs to be veg tanned. Bridle can also be worked but it's not so easy because af all the fats and grease that's been put into it, for bridle you need to properly case it first (slightly damp sawdust in an airtight container with the leather for 24 hours) which works with English bridle like Sedgwick, I imagine it would be the same for American bridle which is tanned differently. Wickett & Craig I think they're called, they do an English bridle in the US, would love to see something like this done with it, wouldn't need the hot wax either
I've got some old leather from my grandpas shop and it smells like rotting fish but only after I've touched it. The leather itself just smells like old leather but after I've handled it my hands smell really gross. How do I fix this?
I know some old leathers were finished with cod oil, which may be the source. Could also be other animal fats in the finishing process, that have gone rancid over the years. There's not really a great solution for getting oils out of leather, but you could give it a few soak and dry sessions to see if it helps.
For rattan combat in the SCA a certain level of rigidity is required. I find it a rather easy no brain way of accomplishing that. If I had time I would attempt to make it, but that takes actually paying attention. Most of the people making armor for rattan fighting wax it.
As a hobbyist beekeeper of non-native invasive agricultural livestock honeybees*, most beeks wax dip their wooden hive boxes so find your local beekeeping clubs and see when they wax dip, they may allow leather to be dipped for a small fee. Some clubs are very strict, new bare wood boxes only, others are more lax, most use paraffin microcrystalline & resins and some also add some real beeswax for smell. Those wax temps are around 270-285*F *True, honeybees are not native to the entire US Continent. (Europe and Africa native range) Beekeeping is not conservation, it's agriculture. It's not good for our native pollinators nor the environment we've learned. Outcompeting for forage, transmitting diseases and viruses to native pollinators and most likely propagating more non-native plants than native plants = bad for the ecosystem. ONLY native plants (and animals) help to heal an ecosystem. Beekeeping is good for people, healthy hive products, money, pollination services for unsustainable ag practices, but it's not helping the environment. Hence we are downsizing our beekeeping to eventually nothing. Located in SE PA.
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Probably time to do a body armor / cuirass of some kind.
I've been leathercrafting for nearly a decade, my mentor has been doing it for half a century, always strop your blades, even ceramic, if you do it right you'll never have to grind them
Just purchased this pattern to make a modified version for myself. Love the flexibility of this design!
For some reason, it never occurred to me that they made bevelers of different thickness. That is definitely going on my shopping list!
Wish I would of had your videos in the late 80's when I did the SCA fighting. Should get back into would be some good exercise.
Prototyping a craft like this is very similar to making a mockup in tailoring. It’s really cool to see how the two intertwine!!!
Yes, make the patterns! I'll run wild.
These look great after wax
I use ceramic blades exclusively and always strop. If you’ve cased the leather properly and strop often there’s no reason to sharpen on a stone. I usually wait til the wax stops releasing air. But I mix orange oil and stearic acid in the wax for flexion and durability.
Interesting topic. Thanks
Took you long enough! Lol.
Been waiting for this one for awhile.
If I recall. I talked to you about this pattern 3 or 4 years ago!!
Well done!
Could you either show on a manicin or a person what all your leather armour pieces look like put together.
Some day maybe. Just so busy, that's a great idea though.
Satisfying
Watching this with 699 views, but i was thinking about these for a bit. I might have to buy the pattern!
I've been wanting to get into leather working for some time and this video was so informative! Thanks and now i finally feel confident enough to try it out!
Dive in and slowly expand your skills. It's not that hard really. :)
:)
Here in the near future im go8ng ro have to go on a massive pattern purchase spree. I like the look of all your works
Number one! 👍
Just wanted to say thank you for always being sponsored but Lonsdale. Because of you I tried them. They are great. Thanks for suggesting them.
Wohoo! Bring it on... Didn't disappoint, cheers!
As always beautiful work.
Great video as always . Thankyou.
Awesome tutorial!
I hope to see the tutorial for thr attaching greaves soon....??
Thanks again for sharing?
Just let the stay separate.
Very nice piece brother! I was not expecting you to join the knee pieces with the thigh pieces for some reason! Still though it turned out really amazing! How long does something like this take you to make?
Very cool
I couldn't find the link to that leather crafter you mentioned in your video around the 13:25 mark.
It's in the description but here you go: facebook.com/SirKerrigan
Glad to see videos back. These look sweet.
do you do commissions for your drawings?
Beautiful work as always. Thank you. I miss Heavy Fighting so much. Due to some injuries. My Doctor will not let me fight heavy anymore. I can still fight Rapier though.
That sucks but happy you can still do rapier.
Thank you for your great videos! Are these armor pieces effective against blades?
If you're doing blunted steel they'll certainly hold up, but they get murdalized more for sure given the narrow edge of steel. I'd also be tempted to experiment more with water hardening if I was working more with the HEMA community.
But I do have HEMA people buying my patterns and making armor with them on the regular, but I personally don't do it much.
Always look forward to getting more of your patterns!
BELLISIMO.
Hey man, I know you like Vikings, but how about an Aztec design?
greetings from Mexico.
Any ideas? Examples?
@@DarkHorseWorkshop
maybe something like this www.pinterest.at/pin/441352832208485416/
www.pinterest.at/pin/831617887419574515/?d=t&mt
www.pinterest.at/pin/606719381030570111/
is quetzalcoatl, the second I don't know if it's Mayan
You should do a test with Skallagrim to see just how durable the waxed leather is!
Waxed leather vs. sharpened steel is very much a loss for waxed leather. The only reason to wax harden leather armor is 1: for blunt force combat like rattan fighting, 2: it's easy to do. Baking or boiling in some form of cuir bouilli is far more period and protective against steel.
Thank you for your work !
Pritty snazy.
Paracord; have ever tried carpet cord?
No... how might that differ?
@@DarkHorseWorkshop hehe, had to go back and watch your video to refresh.
Always enjoyable viewing your videos.
Times change friend.
My live steel combat group disbanded in 2020. And I could not get my own order up and running. Rare it is, for people to commit & follow through. And I no longer participate in gaurding castle at festival.
Your answer, now that my brain has caught up;
Wax Cord is very resilliant in day to day use of standing, walking, running, climbing, carrying various things for my elderly host & hostess to promote their ideal life in a Tn castle.
However, despite using the trench trick to keep my stich work just below the surface of my armor and double stitching...the wax cord can fray & break down - beneath the riggors of Live Steel fighting in rain soaked environments.
In middle Tn we can experience all four seasons in one week's time during May.
We found that anchored straps on bracers & elbow cobs don't hold as long as we prefer them to. So, re-stitching before each practice & event became cumbersome. Oh, ofcourse we embraced our duties. 😇
Well, it was discovered that carpet cord is much more resiliant and still looks period.
On castle grounds we looked period and sharp & less repairs were required between practices and full on combat.
Most people whom are just discovering these two sports are likely thinking two guys going at it like I tag you I get a point, reset.
He tags my head and gets two points, reset, and so on.
What they discover once in this sport are full on battles taking place in a somewhat organized fashion. You know, its all on behalf of one's own honor vs everybody else's honor.
That said, sh** happens & you gotta be trained too survive it the victor.
Its just about the individual, the one...its about the Order you belong to, the House you represent.
So, we often locked arms, shields, rolled on the ground, passing from 1st to our 2nd, before scrounging for whatever became our 3rd.
I lost to a cloak pin, once. Really.
It was fascinating & educational in a very memorable way amongst good friends.
As it should be.
Though some people just get bent and there is that one person for the day, in his own special way.
So, from all entanglements armor straps and leather stitching gets pulled everywhich way with increasing intensity.
The carpet cord held up. Its nearly indestructable, provided the user keeps his gear clean between practices & events.
Per my comments; Veterens sufferring from PTSD and whom are getting the help they need are going to find these sports theropuetic. Nothing better than passing blows & sweating it out. Its all meant to be in good fun. You support group are your House members.
That said, for rest of us with stable minds...we must be prepared for any fighter just having a bad day, where...his or her life just flipped a switch. So, its important too know how to mentally & emotionally process their switch in a matter of seconds. And remember, you did sign that waiver. Just be prepared & push yourself to be noble about it. 😎
Excellent work as always good Sir!
Ok I was literally thinking of making leg armor, never said anything out loud. Now this is in my recommendations... THE ALGORITHM IS IN MY HEAD GET IT OUT
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12:03: what is this machine? Is it for marking strips and straps?
Or is it beveling?
That's for making straps yes. It's a Strap Cutter.
Who else is obsessed with vikings 🤦♀️😅
I can fá them or láta them. 😂
Yo, speaking of arming belts, you wouldn’t happen to have a pattern for that, would ya?
I like your method for doing the brass rivets. I actually do copper rivets that way for halters and bridles when I want a more wild west look but I have a tool that peens it evenly when you stick the stem of the rivet into it. Have you tried that method? If so, do you prefer the anvil-peen hammer method?
I have setters and sometimes use them. I've gotten pretty good at operating without them though.
how much wax does it take to fill that roaster oven?
Is lots an answer? A couple "slabs"?
@@DarkHorseWorkshop gotcha. i ordered the 10lb slab from your amazon storefront. about to get some of your patterns. love your work!
@@DarkHorseWorkshop Got the war belt and an armor bundle. I do rattan combat in Louisiana in the United states. Much love for all the care you put into your work and videos!
Awesome video! What chapter do you belong to?
I'm in the Kingdom of An Tir in the SCA
but where is the crafting table and the 8 pieces of leather to craft the chestplate?
Hey there! Great looking stuff and have missed you!
I have a question on your setup if you don't mind answering: what is the white table made of that you do your cutting on? It looks like a massive cutting cutting board and I've never seen anything like it.
Hope all is going well!
Yup, it's a giant slab of cutting board material from Associated Plastics... I think it's 1/2".... I can't recall.
“Knee Fighting…. It’s a little redicilous, but that’s what we do”
Dark Horse Workshop: We use our knees while fighting.
Me: "We're Vikings! It's an occupational hazard!"
What kind of wax?
I always just use paraffin wax.
@@DarkHorseWorkshop thank you
what thickness is that leather? and what animal re you getting this from ? XD
The leather is 12 to 14oz vegetable tanned saddle skirting from a cow.
So I have a question, maybe you’ve already said it and commenters can send me to the vid. But can you sculp the drawings on leather that you buy from lets say the market. Which I’m guessing is threated with stuff already. Because I got a piece of purple leather I would like to use for a wallet.
Not sure what you mean by sculp, but if you mean carve the leather with images then no you can't. Well.. you could cut it and it would woooork technically but it would look like crap. It needs to be vegetable tanned leather with the process I layed out here.
@@DarkHorseWorkshop first thank you for replying! And yeah meant carve, sorry. Couldn't come to mind so I said sculp 😅...but yeah that's what I thought. Thank you for the info!!
You can check the tannage pretty simply by cutting a small piece, if the cross section is a greyish colour then it's chrome tanned and won't work, as said it needs to be veg tanned. Bridle can also be worked but it's not so easy because af all the fats and grease that's been put into it, for bridle you need to properly case it first (slightly damp sawdust in an airtight container with the leather for 24 hours) which works with English bridle like Sedgwick, I imagine it would be the same for American bridle which is tanned differently. Wickett & Craig I think they're called, they do an English bridle in the US, would love to see something like this done with it, wouldn't need the hot wax either
I've got some old leather from my grandpas shop and it smells like rotting fish but only after I've touched it. The leather itself just smells like old leather but after I've handled it my hands smell really gross. How do I fix this?
I know some old leathers were finished with cod oil, which may be the source. Could also be other animal fats in the finishing process, that have gone rancid over the years. There's not really a great solution for getting oils out of leather, but you could give it a few soak and dry sessions to see if it helps.
@@stingraybob8933 thank you so much
Nothing wrong with kneefighting! :D
Does a number on 2 of the most important joints in your body, I've popped one of them and ground them out pretty brutally.
DHW in 2040: crafting a standard viking raiding ship
Why do you bathe your piece in hot wax
For rattan combat in the SCA a certain level of rigidity is required. I find it a rather easy no brain way of accomplishing that. If I had time I would attempt to make it, but that takes actually paying attention. Most of the people making armor for rattan fighting wax it.
Fancy the leather armor, huh? Something to be said for going light.
waiting for the influx of people coming here after the vambraces one got suggested everywhere.
It went nuts the last month same last year this time. Maybe a Halloween thing.
As a hobbyist beekeeper of non-native invasive agricultural livestock honeybees*, most beeks wax dip their wooden hive boxes so find your local beekeeping clubs and see when they wax dip, they may allow leather to be dipped for a small fee. Some clubs are very strict, new bare wood boxes only, others are more lax, most use paraffin microcrystalline & resins and some also add some real beeswax for smell. Those wax temps are around 270-285*F
*True, honeybees are not native to the entire US Continent. (Europe and Africa native range) Beekeeping is not conservation, it's agriculture. It's not good for our native pollinators nor the environment we've learned. Outcompeting for forage, transmitting diseases and viruses to native pollinators and most likely propagating more non-native plants than native plants = bad for the ecosystem. ONLY native plants (and animals) help to heal an ecosystem. Beekeeping is good for people, healthy hive products, money, pollination services for unsustainable ag practices, but it's not helping the environment. Hence we are downsizing our beekeeping to eventually nothing. Located in SE PA.
Interesting
Gah
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