Hudson & Nintendo's Obscure PC Games
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 มิ.ย. 2024
- Did you know Hudson Soft ported several popular Nintendo games to Japanese PCs? Back in 1984, Nintendo gave Hudson permission to not only port over old titles, but create new ones as well. In this episode of The Gaming Historian, we'll go over all of them!
CHAPTERS
00:00 - Introduction
01:40 - Excitebike
02:28 - Ice Climber
03:12 - Golf
03:51 - Tennis
04:30 - Balloon Fight
05:30 - Mario Bros. Special
06:47 - Punch Ball Mario Bros.
07:49 - Donkey Kong 3: Dai Gyakushū
09:11 - Super Mario Bros. Special
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"Ah, Golf, the only Nintendo game your dad ever loved."
The accuracy of the statement is astonishing.
That's a Funny Joke!
I miss Hudson Soft. Enjoy the new video! If you learned something, give it a good ol' fashioned share!
Gaming Historian God bless you Norm
Me too.
Gaming Historian yes!
Gaming Historian great work!
Gaming Historian That was good
Hudson Soft will always have a place with me.
They brought us Bomberman.
It's a shame he's only an assist trophy in Smash Ultimate. He deserves a spot.
Curse you konami...
and Adventure Island
Intimidation Welp,Hudson brought us star soldier series
Well the good news there is that Nintendo is talking to Konami. So maybe Simon Belmont is just around the corner?
I haven't gotten a chance to say this but thank you for your content man, probably the closest I'll ever get to having a teacher giving lectures on gaming history, I've been watching you for quite a while and been wanting to show my appreciation since then, thanks to you I'm sure everybody's gaming knowledge increases in the process as well ^_^
Crippling Anxiety
Ghey
official onlypuppy7
Lame
Rex Apis sick burn dude. You are cool
Crippling Anxiety, ditto your top comment!
@MultiTarded very nice
"The only Nintendo game your dad loved"
Wrong, that was Duck Hunt
My friend's dad ONLY played Super C.
Tetris was also a dad game
Doom2Guy very true. That was about the only one my dad ever cared to play. Occasionally he would play a racing game with me, but he actually loved to play duck hunt with me.
Here I am, young enough that my dad was playing Super Nintendo before I was even born.
Duck Hunt, but no Hogan's Alley?
Stanley the bugman had more main mario series appearances than Waluigi
Spray does not take off like a dang rocket. Stan Lee is clearly firing white suppositories up Donkey Kong's ass at bullet speed, and the weather forecast is going to be brown rain.
what mainline mario games does stanley cameo in then
Sad Wa
@@wildstarfish3786 ... they said more main Mario "appearances", NOT games.
@@badreality2 fine what two main Mario series appearance cameos did Stanley the bugman have
"Today hudson soft no longer exist..."
Me: awww
"...and its assets are all owned by konami"
Me: GODAMIT
Give me five minutes with Konami and Nintendo, and all of their assets will be mine.
@@paxhumana2015 heck no to that
Pax Humana I no mine
Windows Me good u didnt say hell no
@@windowsme2327 why the heck not dog? I'm sure pax humana will do fine with them
RIP Hudson Soft 1973-2012
Hoping we get Hudson Classics on the Switch ala Arcade Archive - would love that Mario Bros Special and DK3 version.
John Riggs: RIGG'd Games I'm surprised they've never rereleased the Mario Bros special game with fixed scrolling. They rereleased everything else
If someone could get accurate screenshots of the game's levels, I'm sure it could be mostly reproduced in Mario Maker.
There was someone that made a hack of the NES version that makes it like the Sharp X1 version, Though since I never played too far into it I don't know how accurate it is
EDIT: There are two hacks, One that looks exactly like the Sharp X1 version and one that looks like the NES version with the levels from the Sharp X1 version
Sharp X1 Look-Alike: www.romhacking.net/hacks/1011/
Sharp X1 Version with NES Palette: www.romhacking.net/hacks/3281/
Yep! I think they will do it afterwards.
Dang it, konami.
Why did you have to go and kill the bee?!
They were by far one of the best game developers in gaming history and I think one of the first game companies that Nintendo had a close relationship with.
Late reply but most of the employees left the company. I wish they didn't, the company was my childhood.
I know right! Konami sucks!
They made rock revolution
It sucks and it's sus
This channel could totally be a TV show. It's so well done and interesting. It adds a perspective I was totally ignorant of as a child
Those games transitions are so satisfyingly smooth
It makes my day whenever you upload
Queen Awesome Gaming Same
watch pewdiepie
This is the content I've been missing. I love your videos and I'm so happy to see you back pumping out well-written, interesting content!
3:18 "Ah, Golf, the only Nintendo game your dad ever loved."
-Gaming Historian, 2018
8:45 Not only that I heard that donkey 3: Dai Gyakushuu was also gonna be released to Fujitsu micro 7 but never released for unknown reasons
The actual problem with the framerate and scrolling is because pcs back then didn't have hardware support for smooth scrolling (fast objects moving at the same time on the screen), so all of the scrolling was needed to do in the CPU, wich caused lag and screen tearing, you can see this in a lot of early ms-dos platformers and c64 games, altrough, some programmers maneged to make smooth scrolling in early pcs using various optmization techniques (games such as commander keen and jazz jackrabit).
A game like the original super mario bros would be imensily difficult to do in the early 80's in these computers since you had a big resolution and various objects in the screen. Altrough, you had giana sisters in the C64, wich was a very well done SMB ripoff with smooth scrolling, but the resolution was smaller and objects were bigger.
Anyway, nice video!
It was in fact huge discovery of John Carmack who is basically father of PC graphic (he made Commander Keen, Doom and Quake), until introduction of 3D acceleration (so GPU's for PC's) but he is still prominent inventor (developed MegaTexture used in few recent games). Also C64 and mentioned were home computers, so a middle step between console and real office hardware like PC's.
TheRezro Oh yeah, my fault.
In fact, Commander Keen actually started as a SMB3 Port to PC, but Nintendo didn't allow the Port so they developed Commander keen
Yup. It was. Also even GH made same mistake so you don't need apology.
the PC video cards could always feed the monitor at the speed the monitor needed,
yet getting pixels from CPU to the video card was slow.
NES video chip was also slow at getting data from CPU but had flexibility when feeding dots to the TV.
@NanoPi
So? Not the point. Consoles used number of tricks what make graphic good, without need of calculating stuff. It is why something like a "sprite" is a thing. Console CPU didn't need calculate many thing as other chips make work for it. But on the other hand PC could generate everything in specific resolution and color palet if it has enough time to do so, when consoles were highly limited by those tricks and struggle doing anything beside them.
Somebody needs to reverse engineer the Famicom version of Mario Bros. to create ports of Special and Punch Ball!
Have anyone done it yet? I can't imagine it being too difficult to re-program the games into supporting 60fps and proper music speed, but I'm no expert.
Emulation on PC? 😏
This is one of the best channels on TH-cam. And that's not just the nostalgia talking ;) Thanks so much for what you're doing!
Funny how long it took for PCs to really rival the consoles.
Yep
Once Doom came out PC became stronger
yea and then completely crush them 1000 times
Commodore 64, best selling computer of all time, came out before the NES did.
@@thisisaloadofbarnacles921 C64 games really weren't very good. Even people who grew up with it agree.
Another First class video!
Still miss Hudson soft, such a great company.
Finally, a definitive video guide to these obscure and fascinating games. Thanks for scratching a brain itch I've had since first reading about these on HG101. Great video!
5:20 Though you have to admit, those covers had some pretty funky artwork!
Japanese Nintendo games on Computers. That's cool.
yea.. cool in 1984
I've actually only heard of the Mario games up until now. Thanks for another great episode!
I think old Pat Contri's gonna thoroughly enjoy this video, even if none of this is news to him. Great upload
loved how you kept the historical aspect of the episode intact even though the majority of it was game footage. Great video!
*+Gaming Historian, thank you for sharing this with us.* This was cool & it's always fun seeing games existing in versions that I never knew about before.
"Owned by Konami". And some people claim that there is no Hell...
Hey at least they released Castlevania, Contra, and arcade 50th anniversary collections for all consoles and PC. Plus they're not EA and hired that one guy who remade the PT demo for PC.
Why does everyone hate Konami?
Still waiting on my Adventure Island pachinko machine.......LOL.
Those Mario Bros. variations actually look quite fun though.
They are.
I've been a fan and subscriber of yours for years and really appreciate all you do for the channel and retro gaming lovers like myself. This video is absolutely wonderful. I love finding different variations of classic games I've never seen before and it's so fun to compare the little differences between them. The Zelda side scrolling in that Mario game was blowing my mind lol. Again, thanks for taking the time to put this together. BTW, I'm really enjoying the fact you are livestreaming on facebook. Fun to see you playing what you're passionate about!
Genius as usual. I knew most of the games you shown were ported to X1 Sharp but I didn't know about the history between Hudson Soft and Nintendo. You're a true gaming historian and I want to deeply thank you for that!! And now I really want to try Mario Bros. Special :D
Capcom should have hired Hudson to do the Megaman DOS ports back in the early 90s.
Everyone was trying to be super cheap n make a fortune as fast as possible
Honestly I really like the story behind those games, kinda similar to the Christian whitehead / sonic mania story but less successful
He even Made Sonic 2 Remake With Stealth
Fantastic episode. Tragic to think Konami of all companies acquired Hudson Soft.
Super Mario Bros. Special has always been one my favorite obscure games
I'm glad someone around the net is telling the stories of these old franchises/games/consoles/characters.
Fantastic episode!
I wonder if radar scope will ever see a rerelease
it's so obscure that I doubt it will even get a smash bros level
It should
The original, I doubt it, just because of the Mechanics involved, but I could see a reboot, if there is enough fan interest.
@Alt Right Bones
How eloquent. So clever, so edgy. Your parents must be so proud.
It's kind of a hidden gem as far as arcade shooters are concerned. MagmaVision If Sukapon could get in as an Assist Trophy, why couldn't Radar Scope get some sort of mention?
Awesome video Norm, your content is topshelf as always. I have watched all your youtube videos, and they are all great! You have a great, calming voice, and your videos are relaxing and informative. I really enjoy learning about all these quirky facts about gaming history.
i really liked hearing the title theme for each game, along with the fast paced editing showing the game! Another Great Video!
6:47 OH WAY DOWN SOUTH IN THE LAND OF TRAITORS RATTLESNAKES AND ALLIGATORS
I was so confused when I heard an 8-bit Dixie land playing
Were they trying to get southerners to buy the game?
Probably the same sort of cultural ignorance that led them to use a Muslim call to prayer in the original Ocarina of Time OST
Thanks Norm! Always glad to see new videos! Hope all is well.
Another great episode! We enjoy your videos very much
Actually, my Dad used to love Wii Sports and Wii Sports Resort. He used to play Golf- dammit.
You keep mentioning bad scrolling in these games. That's because it wasn't until John Carmack of id software that the problem of smooth scrolling on PC games was solved. "Dangerous Dave in Copyright Infringement" was the demo he made proving smooth scrolling was possible on the PC.
Bad scrolling was due to software scrolling he nes used hardware scrolling.
Carmack was able to use the limited RAM of the PC to scroll. Gotta admit, id software were pioneers in 1st person shooters AND making the PC a viable gaming system on par with consoles.
You're back!! Thank you for this episode!!
Such an amazing video! You’re the best!
Awesome episode!
U damn right
SupaPixelGirl awesome comment!
Tool Shop Guy You are indeed a Tool!
Why did this comment get over 50 likes? Lol
Tubular sode
what's punch ball?
ever play kick ball?
us kids thought we were so inventive on the play ground.
until our dads told us they use to do that too. shut up dad, go back to your playing NES golf
Your content has soared in quality. good job
Every video you make is top notch!
Thank you!
I can’t believe it’s been 5 years senseI Started watching your videos, this is my favorite informative TH-cam channel and quite possibly my all time favorite. Thank you so much for making your videos.
I’m really curious about what the next big video is?
Sounds like your Sensei is pretty awesome to watch these videos. Do you live in a video game Dojo?
Konami needs to bring back some of their Hudson Soft titles, I still wanna see another Bonks Adventure!
They brought back Bomberman, which is a start - maybe we'll be lucky
Hudson had success bringing some great games to the U.S. into Nintendo's great empire !
Hudson soft paired with Falcom bringing Y's III Wanders from Y's to consoles
Thank you for your content. I really feel like I've learned a lot when watching these videos, so thank you.
"Golf: The Only Nintendo Game Your Dad Ever Loved"
That's not true; my dad would play the shit out of Tetris and Dr. Mario.
I heard that SEGA made a VR headset called 'SEGA VR' , but cancelled.
I think you could make a good video about it.
Thank you for this, I always enjoy your videos. Excellent watch.
Hudson games were some of my favorite ones during the NES and SNES era. I hope you make a video about them in the future. Thank you for these superb videos man
Super Mario Special looks fun, would love to try it
Quick Look n Teardown
Super Mario Crossover has the levels in a better engine.
Super mario special exists as rom hack for nes.
www.romhacking.net/hacks/527/
Even one with altered palette to match original X1 version
www.romhacking.net/hacks/1011/
funkycochise
But Crossover has the unique enemies and powerups, so I'd recommend it over the NES hacks.
I vaguely remember playing what must have been smb special in the 80s at arcades. I knew there was a version where Mario could get the hammer. Now I know why.
Now you gotta do a history of Mario Party video
Marty Mcfly why are you still in future go back you're messing everything up
Trust me, you don't want to know..............
.......It was based on
Lemon party
Jeez man your videos are so unique. Great work .
I'm addicted to these videos. Thanks !
That Sharp X1 might be the coolest looking PC I've ever seen
It's not a real PC though, at least not by the 80's standards of the word, it's a home computer or "micro" as they called it, which there were hundreds of, but they were all eventually eliminated by the PC and the Mac.
Uh, it was a PC, in that it was a 'personal computer', as opposed to one that had to be timeshared at a university. What you mean is that it wasn't an IBM compatible. At the time, however, it would have been good competition for an IBM PC XT.
Also, the IBM PC and Mac were both micros as well. "Microcomputer" comes from the fact that they used microprocessors instead of discrete TTL circuitry like the earlier minicomputers (the aformentioned timeshared systems) used.
@@Longlius still an important distinguishment in the modern vernacular
It really isn't.
Balloon fight is one of your favorite games? It's essentially a Joust clone so how do you feel about Joust?
Needs more balloons.
There was also, another game that copied "Balloon Fight" was "Adam & Eve", and that game was from the "Caltron 6-in-1" multi-cart unlicensed NES game along with other "Caltron 6-in-1" titles are not as good. It came out the same year as "Action 52" which was 1991.
Excellent video, Norm your content always brings a smile. Thank you.
Wow, never knew someone with the same love of Balloon Fight.
THERE ARE THREE OF US! BALLOON FIGHT IS MY FAV 😍
YESSSS!!! I've been wanting these games to get some coverage for so long!
I've played the PC-88 versions of most of these, and from what I can tell, the PC-88 version of Ice Climber is probably better than the X1 version, I mean, at least I have an easier time with it than I do with the NES original, but the X1 version of SMB Special seems to be A LOT better than the PC-88 version...
The PC-88 version is SO BAD! The screen doesn't even scroll like this one, it cuts to black for like, half a second, and then the next screen appears, there's A LOT of colour-clash, which is not an issue in any other PC-88 game I've ever played, the physics are rubbish, it's awful!
I sure would love to see it!
and some other games had fujitsu fm-7 too
I am a simple man... i see gaming historian... i go crazy xD
Awsome must see content every time. Thanks man
Wow! A gaming historian video a day before my birthday!!!
Love this channel!
never have i clicked on a notification so fast
Thanks for leaving a useless and typical comment that TH-cam will eventually allow us to filter so we never have to see it... That day can't come soon enough for me.
I find it funny that Nintendo consoles once exceeded PCs in power.
Consoles in general were at one time much better suited to gaming in all respects. Thankfully, times have changed.
Those computers had really bad graphics hardware in the 80s you had 100s of unique computers with their own hardware architecture and some of these computers where better at somethings than others there where some computers with good graphics but bad scrolling and sound and then there was another computer that could do smooth scrolling but it had fucked up color.s
David Gonzales Like from FamiCom to GameCube (with GBPlayer), right?
LPNP
For cost and convenience, they still are..
@Rex Apis No you can get a modern pc that plays all games at a lower price than a console.
Now there's a sequel that almost nobody was asking for (the sequel to Donkey Kong 3). But it's fascinating that it even exists.
This is the first I've heard of any of this, thank you!
"This episode was sponsored by Wikipedia"
Rip Hudson.
Abramplays MC
Their rights are now owned by Konami.
Oof
Great episode as always
Merely stopping by to say your commentary on dads and “Golf” was hilarious in the context of your usual just-the-facts delivery. Thanks for providing an unexpected laugh.
RIP Hudson-soft
You know why they died don't you? ....Because look, 8:42, they made a game about giving Donkey Kong Diarrhea... I do sympathize though, death by guerilla diarrhea is a terrible way to go!
Interesting to see how computers had lower graphical capabilities than consoles in that era. Nowadays it is completely the opposite. These japanese pc game ports looked choppy and bad compared to the nes originals.
Honestly as far as I know it's been pretty much back and forth until around the time Steam came up.
Even the PS3 upon its launch was better than most gaming PCs techwise IIRC.
Yes, but only from the 90's. PC's originally didn't even try compete with consoles because they were designed for office use, and mentioned in this video aren't even true PC's but a home computers.
That was standard of the day. IBM PC's for example couldn't do what consoles were designed to do for example.
iD Software ported Super Mario 3 to the PC to show that PCs could be just as capable for showcasing platformers as their console counterparts not to mention they wanted to strike a business deal with Nintendo. We all know how that went...
@Kurt Angerdinger
For clarity I presume that you meant that: For everything else beside the games NES was worthless, for everything beside abominable graphic PC's were the thing. And home computers (so one mentioned in the video) were generally worthless for everything even if they have better graphic then PC and more power then consoles. But jack of all trades in this case... Only after death of home computing PC start to be seen as possible gaming platform what impact development of graphic. But still not dedicated. It was usually more like "afer finishing office work DooM release your stress". Still main reason why those platforms have so many games was that they didn't need licences. For many small developers and sometimes individual people it was good enough trade, even if market was technically smaller.
Mario set to the tune of Dixie is not something I expected lmao
This episode is AWESOME, thanks!
Hudson Hornet?
Wow! Never knew any of those existed. Some of them were _special,_ alright. 😂
Great video as always. Thank you, Norm!
Hey Norm...YOU’RE AN AWESOME GUY!!!! Thank for all the entertainment man.
Love your content dude. Keep up the great work!!!
I love Balloon Fight too.
great video as always!
Hearing that alternate version of Excitebike opening music was just amazing in a very simple way.
I love this channel. Ive been watching for just over a year!
I love these videos. I am learning and loving it
I can't believe this is new and love your upload
Wow those new power ups in SMB Special were a trip! Thanks for sharing, Norm.
I played the heck out of Adventure Island. Hudson Soft always has a spot in my video game heart. Great video!
Great video per usual!
wow, didn't know Ice Climber could even be more frustrating! I knew about the SMB "port", didn't know they did so many others too, thx for sharing!
Awesome video.I remember Hudson soft so well.They made an N64 game called Star soldier:Vanishing Earth.To me,that was one of Hudson soft's hidden gems.
Really great ep!!!