Thanks for your transparency and vulnerability Mitch. You did not have to share that but you did. Sending you guys so much love and care while you continue on this healing journey!
Eh, I’m comfortable with it now. I was confused for years and was hard as hell but when I made sense of it all it mostly washed away. It was more fear of loved ones following lots of harassment, so it didnt show like what Nick is showing. But I did basically have a psychotic break after not sleeping for two weeks. I appreciate your compassion
I feel like there are 2 main takeaways from this season... 1) Life is complicated af and being on reality TV doesn't de-complicate anything. and 2) Being with Scotty is enough to make any woman appreciate the hell out of literally ANY other man. 😂
the only reason Scotty backed down from berating and accusing Zaina is that she is strong and called him on his BS. Aria doesn't know how to do that yet, not that there's any reason to stay around and interact with this type of selfish, damaging person. This is toxicity manifest
I agree! We probably wont be able to share some opinions about this until Ep8 but Ive got some thoughts on things and dont want to spoil our 7 reaction
In Aria's defence, idk if you noticed, but she's obliquely mentioned fears with men and specifically physical touch. She also spoke on having toxic relationships and what happens when you get out of those (I legitimately didn't see that as a dig towards Maria, I heard it as "I've been there, girl"). So I think that someone with Caleb's energy feels extremely healing to her. She didn't say where or what caused those fears, I have a couple guesses, but I do not think she showed up badly. Ngl, I AM rooting for Caleb and Aria. I think they're really good together and seem to be, from what we're shown, very mindful of each other's vulnerable sides. Like they're careful with one another and in this season it's such a breath of fresh air. I would have watched a whole season of those two in a trial marriage. I think a lot of the issues that came up this season could have been avoided if the couples were all staying in different areas. It's probably for production reasons, to make it easier on the filming crew, but it also almost encourages "chance" encounters between the couples in a way that just leads to people being too much in each other's business. imho they should ALL have blocked their "exes" during the trial.
I feel Nick did try to handle his emotions in a positive way when he put it into his art. However, Mariah and Sandy then both mocked this, which makes me feel that he he's damned if he does, and damned if he doesn't.
he had multiple stencil marks on his arm, he had to have seen it. maybe he did mix up the meanings but i find it hard to believe due to latin similarities to english, literally the same word shows up in both translations
Scotty saying "this is a yes or no question" is gross, controlling and a TEXTBOOK crazy-making question. Sir, she can answer the damn question in any way she chooses, if she chooses to answer it at all. She could also respond "why are you asking ME what YOU said?" The question is both an accusation and a trap. She loses either way and he wins either way. If she says no, then he feels like she is on the narcissist train, and has given up her right to say I know you don't like him and you've made that clear. If she says yes, then he gets to attack her and tell her she's wrong and a liar (in his world view). Run from this type of person as fast as you can
Mariah struck me as a little two faced. She supported Nick to his face but told Sandy behind his back that he wouldn't make a good husband. I'd respect her more if she told Nick she doesn't think he's ready for marriage.
I like Caleb a lot and I truly believe he’s being clear about drawing a line. Whether he’s lying to himself or what he’s determined not to even go there in his thoughts. Maybe I’m wrong but that’s what I’ve been getting from his clips. 🤔
This season is so triggering & such an emotional rollercoaster, us as viewers may need to check in with our therapist as well. I hope everyone is doing okay.
Mitch, going to show you some ❤ cuz it is really hard to compete with those great space buns but loving your beard growth. The dark on your face is making you pop!
Unfortunately, the dating scene is swarming with Scotties…you have to have your radar on at all times. Also, I feel like JR thinks the trial relationship is an actual relationship rather than just an experiment to test your love for your ACTUAL partner lol…he’s been acting like it’s Love is Bind since day 1 😅😂
Im not sure if you guys have mentioned this yet, but ive seen a few people say that they recognize Zaina from another TV show (will come back and edit this when i remember) as the best friend of a main character, and Zaina has also been on a podcast a few times, never mentioned or seen of JR . Apparently!
23:45 guyyyyssss Scotty is abusive…so glad you guys have each other and you don’t have to experience it. But he is textbook abuser. Silent treatment. Projection. Deflection. Gaslighting. Using circular logic. Defensiveness. Picking fights. Trying to make someone question their own reality. Then just being utterly disrespectful and insulting when all the mind games aren’t working and the person is going to leave. The only reason it hasn’t escalated is because Zaina is just refusing to take the bait. Thank god she has self esteem.
I'd rather just watch the original couples get counseling than having them do the trial marriage thing. That just compounds the psychological torture. I just hope everyone gets the help they need!
I found it really hard to watch Scotty's gaslighting and immature, emotionally abusive behavior. He lost his ability to reason and use prefrontal cortex. He reverted to his unconscious childhood defense technique of projecting his behavior onto the other person, so that he could feel as the victim. I imagine it feels better to "resolve" something this simplistic way than to deal with uncertainty of who said what and not knowing if he can trust her. I believe he has covert narcissistic defenses. I have experienced them before and it is painful to see that on screen. Zaina did amazingly well in this situation.
Honestly if the 3 creators I love watching (you guys, Roxiie and Tait's Take) were not commenting I would probably have stopped watching! The season is not fun to watch :(
Imo, Nick is self-destructive in his abuse, and Scotty is destructive to others in his. They’re both abusive to their partners, but they direct it differently. If that even makes any sense??? lol. I’ve been on medication for bipolar disorder for over 10 years now, and unfortunately I see a lot of myself pre-help in Nick’s behavior. He will not change until he actually seeks out professional help, and I really hope he does. Thank you guys for being vulnerable 🫶
I agree with yall so hard re Nick. I definitely relate to how he feels, I have depression with stress induced psychotic symptoms. I've probably looked like that before. I'd hate to see it on film. He's definitely not a good guy but the last episode was so hard to watch I almost had a panic attack
Forgive me if ya'll have already seen it, but The Ultimatum season 2 (with straight people lol) felt WORSE to me, there was minor physical assault with one couple, most of the couples were more grating than entertaining to watch. I'm def with y'all about this season having a lot of emotionally intense to abusive people, and we can totally have empathy and this show (and Love is Blind) should 100% send in therapists kinda like Married at First Sight does.
I am Team Aria over Mariah, sorry not sorry. If things are not meant to be, Caleb must go get his girl lol Lets not forget that Sandy is choosing to stay in that relationship
Sandy and her fake tears got no sympathy from me 😂. I honestly believe she thrives on Nick being unstable. Look at how she smiled when he came to their door that night.
Can't wait for you guys to get to the next episode. I am also a very emotional person so I do empathize with Nick to a certain extent, but I do think its not okay to emotionally neglect your partner and then Love Bomb and act like a lunatic when you feel like you are going to lose your partner because it is clear that he is in a toxic cycle and then also yes Nick should go to Therapy
Scotty is dangerous. JR is very distant with Zaina and some ppl deduce that they are only friends with benefits and not even a committed couple so JR is filly shopping for someone else. And imo JR is not that into Sandy but he is into Sandy just because someone else wants her so bad.
Why is it Scottie instead of Scott? Seems a little juvenile... fitting I suppose... On the other hand, every time I hear his name, I start singing "Scottie doesn't know..."
Nick, Sandy, JR & Scotty’s behaviour all sets me off. I see some of my non-sober self in some behaviours, I see relationships I’ve participated in, and l see how dangerous and impulsive so many of these tendencies were/are. And how unsafe and unhealthy the environments were. Im fully triggered by the way they are choosing to behave, show up, and how they are choosing to communicate those thoughts & feelings. I don’t gender how People choose to express those feeling and thoughts. And I don’t gender their behaviour. I got sober 4 yrs ago and that came as a result of spending the last 15 years tackling trauma, and recovering from hospitalizations and nervous breakdowns, violence and homelessness. Sobriety has been Followed by a diagnosis of C-PTSD, Dissociative Identity Disorder & Functional Neurological Disorder. I really appreciate you both Mitch & Ashley the channel is fantastic and a great source of joy. I think you have a phenomenal community here. Lots of funny, savvy & intelligent People. So Im going to say Goodbye for a while but I want to wish everyone Happy Holidays & a Safe and Healthy 2025. ✌🏻🫶🏻🇨🇦🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️
We’ve bee going through and reprocessing our trauma watching this too. Part of the reason we took that Friday break. I really appreciate your honesty and I get if you need to give this some space. Im looking forward to more low key and fun shows next time
@@membriash Im sorry to hear its brought stuff up for either or both of you; Im also incredibly sorry you had to go through how those experiences to begin with.
@@membriashI couldn’t agree more. Which is why I have therapy 4 days a week. 😂 I don’t always feel confident with my ability to read and understand things sometimes in the spirit they are written. I require seeing someone when they speak; its part neurotypical / derealization & functional neurological disorder processing stuff. Or just my baggage or Im just fucking wrong. 😂 Regardless it’s something I work on actively. In the words of Ice Cube 🙂 “ Gotta Check Yo Self Before you Wreck Yo Self”
Thanks for your transparency and vulnerability Mitch. You did not have to share that but you did. Sending you guys so much love and care while you continue on this healing journey!
Eh, I’m comfortable with it now. I was confused for years and was hard as hell but when I made sense of it all it mostly washed away. It was more fear of loved ones following lots of harassment, so it didnt show like what Nick is showing. But I did basically have a psychotic break after not sleeping for two weeks. I appreciate your compassion
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I absolutely LOVE Ashley‘s space buns!!!😍
I feel like there are 2 main takeaways from this season...
1) Life is complicated af and being on reality TV doesn't de-complicate anything.
and 2) Being with Scotty is enough to make any woman appreciate the hell out of literally ANY other man. 😂
Even JR looks ok after all that
the only reason Scotty backed down from berating and accusing Zaina is that she is strong and called him on his BS. Aria doesn't know how to do that yet, not that there's any reason to stay around and interact with this type of selfish, damaging person. This is toxicity manifest
I agree! We probably wont be able to share some opinions about this until Ep8 but Ive got some thoughts on things and dont want to spoil our 7 reaction
Love love love Ashley's hairstyle. So cute 😍
In Aria's defence, idk if you noticed, but she's obliquely mentioned fears with men and specifically physical touch. She also spoke on having toxic relationships and what happens when you get out of those (I legitimately didn't see that as a dig towards Maria, I heard it as "I've been there, girl"). So I think that someone with Caleb's energy feels extremely healing to her. She didn't say where or what caused those fears, I have a couple guesses, but I do not think she showed up badly.
Ngl, I AM rooting for Caleb and Aria. I think they're really good together and seem to be, from what we're shown, very mindful of each other's vulnerable sides. Like they're careful with one another and in this season it's such a breath of fresh air. I would have watched a whole season of those two in a trial marriage.
I think a lot of the issues that came up this season could have been avoided if the couples were all staying in different areas. It's probably for production reasons, to make it easier on the filming crew, but it also almost encourages "chance" encounters between the couples in a way that just leads to people being too much in each other's business. imho they should ALL have blocked their "exes" during the trial.
the space buns i’m obsessed!!!
Yes! They do look gooood! 🤩
Waiting for the moment you both realise that Nick 'accidentally' got a tattoo that matches J.R's💀
😂😂😂
I feel Nick did try to handle his emotions in a positive way when he put it into his art. However, Mariah and Sandy then both mocked this, which makes me feel that he he's damned if he does, and damned if he doesn't.
Nick's tattoo is the highlight of the season. It's the gift that keeps on giving.
That said, the tattoo artist should have double checked with him.
i feel like artists usually show u check with u before they start. i've had that for all my tats.
Lol whats funny is i bet he probably did.
He probably did. I don’t think this was the mistake that Nick is trying to sell.
They definitely probably did, I’ve never seen an artist not have the person check the stencil after applying it
he had multiple stencil marks on his arm, he had to have seen it. maybe he did mix up the meanings but i find it hard to believe due to latin similarities to english, literally the same word shows up in both translations
Scotty saying "this is a yes or no question" is gross, controlling and a TEXTBOOK crazy-making question. Sir, she can answer the damn question in any way she chooses, if she chooses to answer it at all. She could also respond "why are you asking ME what YOU said?" The question is both an accusation and a trap. She loses either way and he wins either way. If she says no, then he feels like she is on the narcissist train, and has given up her right to say I know you don't like him and you've made that clear. If she says yes, then he gets to attack her and tell her she's wrong and a liar (in his world view). Run from this type of person as fast as you can
She held it down so well but I can see how someone else would get run around by that behavior
Are we going to pretend Nick did not know he was getting the same tattoo as JR?
We legitimately forgot it was the same
I’m not pretending lol. Nick knew😂
Mariah struck me as a little two faced. She supported Nick to his face but told Sandy behind his back that he wouldn't make a good husband.
I'd respect her more if she told Nick she doesn't think he's ready for marriage.
I kinda felt that too. It did seem a little cutting in front of the other women. Not quite sure what to make of her yet
I like Caleb a lot and I truly believe he’s being clear about drawing a line. Whether he’s lying to himself or what he’s determined not to even go there in his thoughts. Maybe I’m wrong but that’s what I’ve been getting from his clips. 🤔
Scotty is a devil. Zaina handled him well. And I agree, they need a show therapist.
The only thing I'm sure about is that everyone should be single and in therapy. My God😭
This season is so triggering & such an emotional rollercoaster, us as viewers may need to check in with our therapist as well. I hope everyone is doing okay.
Had the same reaction to Scotty's stare 😭
Mitch, going to show you some ❤ cuz it is really hard to compete with those great space buns but loving your beard growth. The dark on your face is making you pop!
Unfortunately, the dating scene is swarming with Scotties…you have to have your radar on at all times.
Also, I feel like JR thinks the trial relationship is an actual relationship rather than just an experiment to test your love for your ACTUAL partner lol…he’s been acting like it’s Love is Bind since day 1 😅😂
also mitch’s flannel/button up game is always on point. as a lesbian i’m jealous
🙂
Im not sure if you guys have mentioned this yet, but ive seen a few people say that they recognize Zaina from another TV show (will come back and edit this when i remember) as the best friend of a main character, and Zaina has also been on a podcast a few times, never mentioned or seen of JR . Apparently!
23:45 guyyyyssss Scotty is abusive…so glad you guys have each other and you don’t have to experience it. But he is textbook abuser. Silent treatment. Projection. Deflection. Gaslighting. Using circular logic. Defensiveness. Picking fights. Trying to make someone question their own reality. Then just being utterly disrespectful and insulting when all the mind games aren’t working and the person is going to leave. The only reason it hasn’t escalated is because Zaina is just refusing to take the bait. Thank god she has self esteem.
Exactly ! Yes everyone needs therapy on this show… but Scotty needs therapy not only for his safety but for the general publics.🙏🏽🌻
This season is killing my soul, there are too many toxic people. Hi from Germany. I love Ashley's hair though :)
I'd rather just watch the original couples get counseling than having them do the trial marriage thing. That just compounds the psychological torture. I just hope everyone gets the help they need!
Queenie ashley glowingggg 🥹😍😍
I found it really hard to watch Scotty's gaslighting and immature, emotionally abusive behavior. He lost his ability to reason and use prefrontal cortex. He reverted to his unconscious childhood defense technique of projecting his behavior onto the other person, so that he could feel as the victim. I imagine it feels better to "resolve" something this simplistic way than to deal with uncertainty of who said what and not knowing if he can trust her. I believe he has covert narcissistic defenses. I have experienced them before and it is painful to see that on screen. Zaina did amazingly well in this situation.
Honestly if the 3 creators I love watching (you guys, Roxiie and Tait's Take) were not commenting I would probably have stopped watching! The season is not fun to watch :(
Queen e is a good one too
Ahh i watch all of these channels 🥰🙏🏼
Denise Brady is a therapist who is commenting, and helping ME stay sane as I watch.
I can’t BELIEVE that nick got the same tattoo as JR nonononono💀💀💀💀
22:25 at this point he is just aggressive
Imo, Nick is self-destructive in his abuse, and Scotty is destructive to others in his. They’re both abusive to their partners, but they direct it differently. If that even makes any sense??? lol.
I’ve been on medication for bipolar disorder for over 10 years now, and unfortunately I see a lot of myself pre-help in Nick’s behavior. He will not change until he actually seeks out professional help, and I really hope he does.
Thank you guys for being vulnerable 🫶
I agree with yall so hard re Nick. I definitely relate to how he feels, I have depression with stress induced psychotic symptoms. I've probably looked like that before. I'd hate to see it on film. He's definitely not a good guy but the last episode was so hard to watch I almost had a panic attack
Forgive me if ya'll have already seen it, but The Ultimatum season 2 (with straight people lol) felt WORSE to me, there was minor physical assault with one couple, most of the couples were more grating than entertaining to watch.
I'm def with y'all about this season having a lot of emotionally intense to abusive people, and we can totally have empathy and this show (and Love is Blind) should 100% send in therapists kinda like Married at First Sight does.
I am Team Aria over Mariah, sorry not sorry. If things are not meant to be, Caleb must go get his girl lol
Lets not forget that Sandy is choosing to stay in that relationship
We start to come around ep 7, just wait 😄
This! Caleb is pretty monotone but he just seems sad around Mariah versus Aria.
I didn’t see any romantic interest in Aria tho.
@tashabnicole am I the only one who thinks Caleb is stoned?
Nick is strange to me. the simple fact that he as a 37 year old pursued a 25 year old? ew
Sandy and her fake tears got no sympathy from me 😂. I honestly believe she thrives on Nick being unstable. Look at how she smiled when he came to their door that night.
yuppppp
Yes!! She enjoys the chaos she creates.
Can't wait for you guys to get to the next episode. I am also a very emotional person so I do empathize with Nick to a certain extent, but I do think its not okay to emotionally neglect your partner and then Love Bomb and act like a lunatic when you feel like you are going to lose your partner because it is clear that he is in a toxic cycle and then also yes Nick should go to Therapy
I love this season, this is the most entertaining ultimatum season other than queer
That hair is so cute on you, Ashley!!!!
i love a couple reviews vs just one person review to get a few from both sides
Totally unrelated note: Mitch's doppelganger is Hopper from stranger things.
Halloween costume idea. Hopper and Eleven.😅
am i the only one who thinks that nick's feeling are insincere??
You look so cute Ashley!! 😍
Scotty is dangerous. JR is very distant with Zaina and some ppl deduce that they are only friends with benefits and not even a committed couple so JR is filly shopping for someone else. And imo JR is not that into Sandy but he is into Sandy just because someone else wants her so bad.
Do you think Nick got the same tattoo as JR on purpose?
I do.
I just think…
Everyone should break up lol and am I the only one who thinks Sandy looks like Lana Del Rey?
A lot of people have said so.
Why is it Scottie instead of Scott? Seems a little juvenile... fitting I suppose...
On the other hand, every time I hear his name, I start singing "Scottie doesn't know..."
That’s a pretty common nickname that adults with the last or first name Scott seem to prefer.
Ugh done with Scotty. Done with everyone yep fully agree.
Scotty is a little un hinged in moments and could definitely benefit from some sort of professional help. My opinion
I feel like Sandy decided to go on the show and not Nick.
I miss the queer ultimatum honestly 😅 this season is such a mess
To be fair, the queer season was also a mess... just a slightly more entertaining mess...
I may be in the minority but I'm enjoying this season...
Caleb and Aria relationship's is beautiful but very chaste i dont think that they will end together
Nick, Sandy, JR & Scotty’s behaviour all sets me off.
I see some of my non-sober self in some behaviours, I see relationships I’ve participated in, and l see how dangerous and impulsive so many of these tendencies were/are. And how unsafe and unhealthy the environments were.
Im fully triggered by the way they are choosing to behave, show up, and how they are choosing to communicate those thoughts & feelings.
I don’t gender how
People choose to express those feeling and thoughts. And I don’t gender their behaviour.
I got sober 4 yrs ago and that came as a result of spending the last 15 years tackling trauma, and recovering from hospitalizations and nervous breakdowns, violence and homelessness.
Sobriety has been Followed by a diagnosis of C-PTSD, Dissociative Identity Disorder & Functional Neurological Disorder.
I really appreciate you both Mitch & Ashley the channel is fantastic and a great source of joy.
I think you have a phenomenal community here. Lots of funny, savvy & intelligent People.
So Im going to say Goodbye for a while but I want to wish everyone Happy Holidays & a Safe and Healthy 2025.
✌🏻🫶🏻🇨🇦🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️
We’ve bee going through and reprocessing our trauma watching this too. Part of the reason we took that Friday break. I really appreciate your honesty and I get if you need to give this some space. Im looking forward to more low key and fun shows next time
@@membriash Im sorry to hear its brought stuff up for either or both of you; Im also incredibly sorry you had to go through how those experiences to begin with.
@ back at you. Dont worry about is though, its healthy to talk about stuff.
@@membriashI couldn’t agree more.
Which is why I have therapy 4 days a week. 😂
I don’t always feel confident with my ability to read and understand things sometimes in the spirit they are written.
I require seeing someone when they speak; its part neurotypical / derealization & functional neurological disorder processing stuff. Or just my baggage or Im just fucking wrong. 😂 Regardless it’s something I work on actively.
In the words of Ice Cube 🙂
“ Gotta Check Yo Self Before you Wreck Yo Self”