While it is true our french Rafale can only do 6 MICA, Indian versions of the same plane can do 8. It seems 2 more MICAs have been found in a datamine 5 minutes after this upload! Whether or not that means this rafale will get them or not is unsure at this time, we'll have to see. But add that to the list of WRONG information this week from SeekerHead!
It should get more than 12 extre more countermeassures. Currently it has 8 countermeassures per module, when it should have 18 countermeassures per module. So possibly an increase to 72 large countermeassures on top of the chaff.
@@Marco-cg7fb 72 is only for normal caliber CM's, not large caliber. It can have 72 but not 72 large caliber CM's. They would be "normal" flares. IRL however these aren't normal, even if normal sized, because they're designed to specifically mimic the IR signature of the Rafale.
32 large caliber flares or 72 medium caliber chaff is the official loads of the countermeasures boxes on the back of the rafale, people are arguing for having the option to select 72 medium caliber flares instead of the 32 large caliber ones. But frankly if i had to choose i'd rather see the 2 additional MICAs on the 2nd station pylons, which was tested and mounted on this version of the plane, before being adopted by India for their Rafale F3 and France for their F4
Really thought about buying that thing but that actually might happen. On the other hand this is the new top tier now and there may be even more broken stuff in the near future. Who knows. Just need something new after grinding the whole US and Ussr tree lol
3:31 all Flankers got a pretty good buff to their turn rate and the Su27SM now has the Su34 engines on top of that, hope u can check that out maybe make a video on it?
Thrust vectoring missiles just make a lot of sense when talking about high AOA planes with HMD! The f15 has the spirit of an f104 when it comes to GO FAST and it’s using the speed for range while the euro canards or specifically the rafale (gaijin please add my gripen E) focus more on the “close range” where the high off bore and high AOA means you’re never safe (granted, close range being very relatively here)
For me Rafale is like Gripen when it came out. It was F-15 vs Su-27 and then there was his small guy named JAS39A who did wonders and could slam them both. And now its F-15E vs. Eurofighter and then there is this guy called Rafale who is just minding his own business and when you go to his personal space he shoot's MICA at you and you're dead.
technically the rafale could bring at least 8 micas in a game. The aircraft can carry two additional micas under the wings, between the flaps and the two wingtip missiles. Plus it could carry two more (10 total) under the main fuselage, where the fuel tank is placed.
This thing and the mirage 2000 are not different enough to justify .3 br. I still don't understand why the rest of the 4th gen ARH slingers were not moved to 14.0.
The french rafale can do 8 MICAs what are you talking about? There are photos of it carrying MICAs on all 3 underwing/wingtip pylons in combination with various ground ordnance, in addition to the 2 fuselage pylons. It doesn't carry 6 irl but it is very clearly capable of it if needed.
The 8 missles are either on the Indian F3-R or the french F4 versions... But not the french F3-R we have. On the other hand, they gave the Rafale one of it's three air-air missles... So that's with the "realistic" standpoint from gaijin.
@@dyson-lemmling7171 I dont understand how people like you and seek dont know how to do research. Google 'rafale F3' and there are hundreds of images with MICAs on the wintip, inner wing and fuselage pylons. This is the standard combat and patrol loadout. There are very few to none with MICAs on the outer underwing pylons. But if you, I dont know, look at weapon expos, you can see on oct 25, 2010 on a rafale F3 with the French Air Force demonstrated rafale F3s (before the F4 even existed) with MICA IR on the wingtip, a meteor on the inner underwing pylon and (whats this????) a MICA EM ALSO on the outer underwing pylon. Do the math: the wintip pylon, outer underwing, inner underwing and fuselage pylons are all capable of using MICAs on a rafale F3, since this can be mirrored on the other side that gives a loadout of 8 MICAs.
It is aesa, it’s just modeled weird. It has 2 scans in one effectivly. It scans normally, but then also has a super fast scan at rhe same time. It seems like it updates targets inside a cone shape of the selected target in tws continuously.
This is what ive been saying from the start, and honestly now people have really clocked onto it because of the hype of the Rafale and now top tier has become borderline un-fucking-playable. Even compared to what it was BEFORE. I mean ffs if you get anywhere CLOSE to an M2K or Rafale, regardless of direction, you just fucking die. which is already hard enough because they're most of the team, MICAs still have very potent range for what they are AND the pathetic joke that is the spotting system means most times you'll just get launched on by a guy you never even saw coming, either that or theres so many alerts going off through your headset that you cant look around to find the bastard before he launches on you. That and they all just stay low, so good luck sitting at range and picking them off while they just Multipath everything that comes their way. TL:DR this is what i've said since ARH was added, now theres so many MICA-EMs in one lobby that the game is just not fun, even compared to what it was before. If you're french, just multipath until you can Lock N' Launch, if not, Better hope your BVR goes well cuz thats about 75% of your match.
I love how easily this plane turns but you literally can not use this plane what so ever at the same time. The wings rip so easily it’s insane, nor can you use the engines fully. It makes 0 sense. This plane honestly is garbage the mirage is better in almost every way. 1. More missiles 2. Better functioning radar 3. Wings don’t rip 4. The engine can actually continually hold thrust without having to worry about getting a (reduce speed) warning 5. Not worried about dog fights this is war thunder getting third partied is the normal 6.more flares Who cares about how well you can turn if your always worried about your speed, considering thier is 16 other planes you have to worry about watching speed every 10 seconds is way to much in the scheme of things, you have missiles being fired at you from every direction
Id still say that EFT has more overall potential than Rafale. While AIM-120/AIM-9M combo isnt as powerful as MICAs EFT still carries a very potent kit allowing it to dictate the fight for both ARB team matches or end game 1v1s. It is certainly lots of fun tho
10:00 Not really, because the only difference between the EM and IR versions is the seeker and range. They are exactly the same missile, with the EM having a range of 80 km and the IR 60 km. That's all you can use the EM just like the IR in every way edit: Bonne vidéo, ceci dit
The MICA IR would be an ET on crack and yes it literally would be stronger than all of the IR missiles combined, it literally has AIM-9X levels of IRCCM
@@SeekerHeadThis is exactly the same situation as with Fox 3 missiles before we got them. Everyone was saying, 'Fox 3 will break the game,' and now we have Fox 3s and the game is fine. They could create a game mode for Fox 2s, just like they did for Fox 3s, to test how they would perform in a realistic battle
While it is true our french Rafale can only do 6 MICA, Indian versions of the same plane can do 8. It seems 2 more MICAs have been found in a datamine 5 minutes after this upload! Whether or not that means this rafale will get them or not is unsure at this time, we'll have to see. But add that to the list of WRONG information this week from SeekerHead!
Imagine if they add the IR MICA, it's gonna be insane
Smin already hinted for this addition so its highly possible they will be added tomorrow.
@@Michael-IR if that were the case shouldn't the asraam be added too? and the other equavelents?
@@ruan21101 I was talking about additional MICA-EM pylons, not MICA-IR
@@Michael-IR ah, okay I missunderstood. sorry
Btw, its getting 8 mica-ems and 12 more flares really soon
pinned comment :)
@@SeekerHead yay!
It should get more than 12 extre more countermeassures. Currently it has 8 countermeassures per module, when it should have 18 countermeassures per module. So possibly an increase to 72 large countermeassures on top of the chaff.
Damn, I was hoping we could use the small loadout of Rafale to get Gaijin to fix the MICA's range.
I guess it beats them not doing nothing tho.
@@Marco-cg7fb 72 is only for normal caliber CM's, not large caliber. It can have 72 but not 72 large caliber CM's. They would be "normal" flares. IRL however these aren't normal, even if normal sized, because they're designed to specifically mimic the IR signature of the Rafale.
32 large caliber flares or 72 medium caliber chaff is the official loads of the countermeasures boxes on the back of the rafale, people are arguing for having the option to select 72 medium caliber flares instead of the 32 large caliber ones.
But frankly if i had to choose i'd rather see the 2 additional MICAs on the 2nd station pylons, which was tested and mounted on this version of the plane, before being adopted by India for their Rafale F3 and France for their F4
Just wait for gaijew to sell a crap ton of Mirage F-1C 200s in sales just to nerf the f out of the Rafale after that
Really thought about buying that thing but that actually might happen. On the other hand this is the new top tier now and there may be even more broken stuff in the near future. Who knows. Just need something new after grinding the whole US and Ussr tree lol
It's already announced for it to get 8 micas
pinned comment! my bad
Where
Source for that?
3:31 all Flankers got a pretty good buff to their turn rate and the Su27SM now has the Su34 engines on top of that, hope u can check that out maybe make a video on it?
I would love to see a video on it too
ill be checking them out yeah
Thrust vectoring missiles just make a lot of sense when talking about high AOA planes with HMD! The f15 has the spirit of an f104 when it comes to GO FAST and it’s using the speed for range
while the euro canards or specifically the rafale (gaijin please add my gripen E) focus more on the “close range” where the high off bore and high AOA means you’re never safe (granted, close range being very relatively here)
For me Rafale is like Gripen when it came out. It was F-15 vs Su-27 and then there was his small guy named JAS39A who did wonders and could slam them both. And now its F-15E vs. Eurofighter and then there is this guy called Rafale who is just minding his own business and when you go to his personal space he shoot's MICA at you and you're dead.
Damn, I can't wait for that Gripen E with seven fox3's, two fox2's and a targeting pod.
technically the rafale could bring at least 8 micas in a game. The aircraft can carry two additional micas under the wings, between the flaps and the two wingtip missiles.
Plus it could carry two more (10 total) under the main fuselage, where the fuel tank is placed.
yeah i have a pinned comment
You are thinking of Rafale A tech-demo which is basically a different aircraft which only ever carried mockup missiles.
Another thing with the rafale when you lock a plane and they shoot a missile sometimes the radar will switch to the missile and blows the mood.
Same with the EF2000. I think its just a radar problem as a whole
Still think the J10 has a claim for top dog with that 85 degree HMD . Excited for the variants w more engine power
I feel like gaijin speedruns how fast they can make YT videos outdated
I agree 👍🏿 with everything in this vid. Close range weapons on a dogfight turning jet is better suited for the plane.
This thing and the mirage 2000 are not different enough to justify .3 br. I still don't understand why the rest of the 4th gen ARH slingers were not moved to 14.0.
The french rafale can do 8 MICAs what are you talking about? There are photos of it carrying MICAs on all 3 underwing/wingtip pylons in combination with various ground ordnance, in addition to the 2 fuselage pylons. It doesn't carry 6 irl but it is very clearly capable of it if needed.
The 8 missles are either on the Indian F3-R or the french F4 versions... But not the french F3-R we have.
On the other hand, they gave the Rafale one of it's three air-air missles... So that's with the "realistic" standpoint from gaijin.
@@dyson-lemmling7171 I dont understand how people like you and seek dont know how to do research.
Google 'rafale F3' and there are hundreds of images with MICAs on the wintip, inner wing and fuselage pylons. This is the standard combat and patrol loadout. There are very few to none with MICAs on the outer underwing pylons. But if you, I dont know, look at weapon expos, you can see on oct 25, 2010 on a rafale F3 with the French Air Force demonstrated rafale F3s (before the F4 even existed) with MICA IR on the wingtip, a meteor on the inner underwing pylon and (whats this????) a MICA EM ALSO on the outer underwing pylon.
Do the math: the wintip pylon, outer underwing, inner underwing and fuselage pylons are all capable of using MICAs on a rafale F3, since this can be mirrored on the other side that gives a loadout of 8 MICAs.
I usually like to carry one or two Magic 2 for the guys hugging the ground, I almost have as many kills with them as with the MICAs.
It is aesa, it’s just modeled weird. It has 2 scans in one effectivly. It scans normally, but then also has a super fast scan at rhe same time. It seems like it updates targets inside a cone shape of the selected target in tws continuously.
No
That camo goes H A R D. Is that a GE camo?
User skin :(
@SeekerHead awwwwww :(
It's actually GE Camo now@@SeekerHead
it isnt the same. there's no white
@@SeekerHead There's no white on irl camo. Its light silver
This is what ive been saying from the start, and honestly now people have really clocked onto it because of the hype of the Rafale and now top tier has become borderline un-fucking-playable. Even compared to what it was BEFORE. I mean ffs if you get anywhere CLOSE to an M2K or Rafale, regardless of direction, you just fucking die. which is already hard enough because they're most of the team, MICAs still have very potent range for what they are AND the pathetic joke that is the spotting system means most times you'll just get launched on by a guy you never even saw coming, either that or theres so many alerts going off through your headset that you cant look around to find the bastard before he launches on you. That and they all just stay low, so good luck sitting at range and picking them off while they just Multipath everything that comes their way.
TL:DR this is what i've said since ARH was added, now theres so many MICA-EMs in one lobby that the game is just not fun, even compared to what it was before. If you're french, just multipath until you can Lock N' Launch, if not, Better hope your BVR goes well cuz thats about 75% of your match.
By the way, this skin (white tiger) is cool but it's the one of the Rafale M.
It’s a user skin, not official in game
Or as defyn would say the ravioli
Have you tried this thing against the j10?
150 in 10m, its seover
117 views in 10 minutes????? Dude might’ve ACTUALLY fallen off
No views in 36 seconds. Seek fell off
how can he fall off if he was never up there? dude has shit takes lmao. look what he said about the euro
I love how easily this plane turns but you literally can not use this plane what so ever at the same time. The wings rip so easily it’s insane, nor can you use the engines fully. It makes 0 sense. This plane honestly is garbage the mirage is better in almost every way.
1. More missiles
2. Better functioning radar
3. Wings don’t rip
4. The engine can actually continually hold thrust without having to worry about getting a (reduce speed) warning
5. Not worried about dog fights this is war thunder getting third partied is the normal
6.more flares
Who cares about how well you can turn if your always worried about your speed, considering thier is 16 other planes you have to worry about watching speed every 10 seconds is way to much in the scheme of things, you have missiles being fired at you from every direction
Yeah it kinda feels like that, though the extra thrust is useful in some situations.
Id still say that EFT has more overall potential than Rafale. While AIM-120/AIM-9M combo isnt as powerful as MICAs EFT still carries a very potent kit allowing it to dictate the fight for both ARB team matches or end game 1v1s. It is certainly lots of fun tho
W Seek
five mins not even 100 views bro fell off
10:00 Not really, because the only difference between the EM and IR versions is the seeker and range. They are exactly the same missile, with the EM having a range of 80 km and the IR 60 km. That's all you can use the EM just like the IR in every way
edit: Bonne vidéo, ceci dit
The issue is the IR is basically unflarable. Not good for gameplay
The MICA IR would be an ET on crack and yes it literally would be stronger than all of the IR missiles combined, it literally has AIM-9X levels of IRCCM
@@SeekerHeadThis is exactly the same situation as with Fox 3 missiles before we got them. Everyone was saying, 'Fox 3 will break the game,' and now we have Fox 3s and the game is fine. They could create a game mode for Fox 2s, just like they did for Fox 3s, to test how they would perform in a realistic battle
@@zooloomodsThe game is not fine.
@@zooloomodsthe game is not fine