Re-uploaded to fix a technical error about the radar set. Sorry, my source material (Jane's All-The-World's-Aircraft in this case) didn't distinguish between different versions of the CAPTOR radar.
Tim, I'm gonna say something, and I hope it wouldn't make you do another re-upload. The AIM-9L/I the German Eurofighter have? its also smokeless. like the AIM-9M. the designation is AIM-9L/I - 1, the dash 1 meaning it got upgraded with a similar smokeless motor within the AIM-9M
@kizvy You could give a gaijin developer a ride in the jet, and they wouldn't accept it for a bug report. Also, they addressed the radar versions in a later year of the encyclopedia. Its my own damned fault for not using my latest volume (which has more accurate/updated specs, but less info about the development).
@@AuGTN01 I knew about this, but didn't want to go on a long tangent - there is some debate if this is intentional (the LI-1 vs LI) and/or the specific model it gets will be patched. It wasn't worth delaying the review over, since they change shit so damned often anyway. :-\
I don't call something "overpowered" lightly, but this one really does feel OP at the moment. I'm sure they'll powercreep it with an Su-37 or Super Hornet or something in the next update.
@@TimsVariety There's not a single aircraft they can add with flight performance that can compete with it until the F-22, genuinely. The only thing that they can add before then to counter it would be modern Fox-2s like 9x, IRIS-T and ASRAAM...2 of which arm the nations that use Typhoon
@@TimsVariety I like the Super Hornet, but it doesn't have the performance to touch the Typhoon. Thrust-to-weight isn't even close. Coupled to that it has WAY more drag throughout the vast majority of the envelope. The Hornet's only possible advantage is the AN/APG-79 AESA (at least on the later aircraft, or retrofitted ones). But how War Thunder models radar, I doubt the advantages of an AESA are going to be realised. Also, Su-37 was only a demonstrator, if they add the Su-57 on the other hand... While seemingly less stealty than the Raptor or Lightning (so less useful 99% of the time), that thing looks like it has some serious aerobatic performance!
There was some mock-up dogfight over Germany lately between a Eurofighter flown by a German pilot and an F-35 flown by an American. The Eurofighter won. If Gaijin doesn't pull something funny, the Eurofighter (or some more modern version of it that's yet to be added - the ones added now are very early models after all) should stay competitive even when they run out of planes to add. Even though it's not primarily designed to be stealthy, it still has a very faint radar signature, newer models can apparently screw with enemy radar, the best weaponry is on the Eurofighter itself... I love the fact that they added it, all three nations desperately needed something good at top tier, but it's simply too strong for War Thunder in late 2024 to implement properly.
@Eintracht-uy3cz because most of the dogfights don't actually represent actual combat. Sure a Typhoon is going to fly circles around a F-35. And the Typhoon won because they begin these dogfights within visual range. They basically negate the advantage of stealth by the setup of these dogfights. An F-35 is going to dominate a BVR fight. If an F-35 gets into a close range dogfight, they f***ed up!
I have to second this. My life included many briefs to high up folks and your life experience as one who speaks to many is very evident. You are very professional. You and Tankenstien are my two favorite content creators for your ability to give knowledge and make it enjoyable to absorb.
@@TimsVariety Seriously, I've mentioned you in game once when someone had radar questions in sim. The universal response in that lobby was 'Tim's the GOAT'.
The funny thing is, that Austria managed to buy the most barebone configuration of the Eurofighter and still needed it to be stripoed down more so that it has no night-fighting capability and no defensive systems. But we fly sorties with 2 Iris-T missels, but no SARH or Active Radar Homing missels.
@antikythera42 We don't need to. Not anymore. After the crisis on our border with Slovenia where our Draken couldn't do anything to subsonic flying enemy Mig-21, because our Drakens where only allowed to be armed with guns as per our state treaty of 1955. The realized how stupid this was and lifted the ban, but after the end if the iron curtain and the expansion of NATO, Austria was surrounded by neutral or NATO states, which where allies even if Austria can't join NATO. So the military budget was cut and over the years it reached a point where even the barracks couldn't really be renovated. So when they put the Draken into retirement and the F-5 lease we had with Switzerland was over there were only really two viable aircraft: the Gripen, a multirole aircraft that was cheaper and came from a country with a similar background (neutral, conscription with many soldiers, but a limited standing army) or the Eurofighter, a more expensive but more capable aircraft. Long story short they bought the Eurofighter that had capabilities that were never intended to use and tried to cut down maintenance costs by stripping everything possible out. And until now there is still a court case about corruption from the officals and Airbus. Truth be told if there would have been a classical intetceptor at that time they would have bought that.
@@jojosworlds1208 sounds like Ireland, the countries around it allow for it to essentially offload its defense kind of like Austria. Why can't Austria join NATO? Is there just no desire to join or something?
@BlackHawkBallistic After WW2 Austria was occupied by the Allies. To get it's territories back and become a sovereign country again it had to commit to a perpetual neutrality in its new constitution. I could be changed, but because many people don't understand the concept and limitations correctly, the 2/3 majority in our national council needed to change the constitution is very unlikely to happen.
i had a conversation with a tyhoon pilot a year or so ago, and he said that the gun has a thin film like material put over it when the groundcrew are working on it, and it is designed to tear when the gun is fired. the basic purpose is to protect the gun from FOD
In that particular match, he was the last man standing, and the only other guy up on my team was an Su-34 hitting ground targets. I almost never get duels either unless its at the end of a match (at least, at top tier), its nothing but third-party snipes anytime you try to setup a 1 on 1.
Reposting from the old video, but I saw one of the prototypes for the Typhoon at the RAF Museum last week. Hell of an aircraft to see up close. It’s a shame they don’t get Meteors or ASRAAMs yet, but hopefully they will in the future.
Definitely being saved for a Tranche 2/3 upgrade iteration down the line for a higher BR bracket. Once they start adding extremely good IR missiles like the ASRAAM, AIM-9X, IRIS-T as well as the most latest long range radar missiles like the Meteor, AIM-174, etc; that will most definitely be a next step in air combat meta much like how 90s era FOX-3s did to the game earlier this year. Hopefully Gaijin will actually expand the game modes, maps, etc because that will be mentally insane if air rb doesn’t fundamentally change by then lol
Another awesome video! The dogfight against the other Eurofighter Typhoon at the beginning was awesome. Loved the “smoke” after locking in the victory there lol
I don’t play top tier jets (my mental health drew a line in the sand) but seeing each of these reviews is worth watching regardless thanks to the brief history and to support the channel.
The canards (which function as all-moving elevators) are moving the wrong way. As part of a tailplane, the elevators need to create downwards lift (leading edge rotates down) at the back of the aircraft, in order to rotate the aircraft, nose up. When canards instead are used, to rotate the front of the aircraft up, the canards must instead create positive lift, so the leading edge rotates up. I'm assuming they just used the same code as controls the model of a regular tailplane, only moved the position... What they seem to forgotten to do is 'angle * (-1)' to the elevator position (when it is forwards of the centre of lift).
@@Scarp7141 amen to that brother.... it's a shame Heatblur will have finished and released their Eurofighter for DCS long before I grind through any tree in War Thunder to get it though lol. Ah well, hope you guys have fun it, and show your opponents why you don't mess with with the undisputed king of the skies!
@@SA80TAGEfr….hopefully within a year they’ll be a EFA event vehicle or premium for you snag. I could see one of the two seater instrumental planes, the DA pre-series planes or some of the other nations like Spain 🇪🇸 , Austria 🇦🇹 , Qatar 🇶🇦, etc.
Took 2 days of grinding but I got it, it’s my new favourite plane in the game, going from the gripen to the fgr4 feels so good as the fgr4 is so much faster
@TimsVariety oh I do have War Thunder, been playing since the highest jets were the Sabre and the Mig-15. But when the Hungarian tree was added it locked the last rank, and I just gave up. I don't have the time and the money to get the Italian Typhoon...
Star of Ace Combat series and flagship fighter of Spanish version of Ace Combat 5: The Unsung War. 30 years of Eurofighter EF-2000 Typhoon - Rainbow Dash and Zipp Storm of the fighters - in 2024 and 30 years of Ace Combat series in 2025.
The Brits kept this programme alive. We are so lucky that we did, and the progress on the plane has taken it to be a pinnacle multi-role fighter. It would be a mistake to allow the production line to go cold and spend on developing new platforms. Late era Typhoons will be a top tier jet until they retire.
Absolutely menace to think about the later modernised Typhoon, they armed with aim-132 ASRAAM, meteor and storm shadown. I can feel how scary that thing is even though it might came out around late 2025.
Saying that we are dragging our feet extremely hard on Captor-E Mk.2, meaning we are still stuck with a mechanically steered Captor-M array while other nations are fitting out with the AESA Captor-E Mk.0 and Mk.1 We have, last I checked, refused to fund Meteor Mk.2 development. I'm also not sure if we've committed to implementing Airbus' aerodynamic refinements including LERX, though those may be standard for all models of the next planned tranche, I'm not sure. And despite it being announced 10+ years ago that there was 10-20% room for thrust growth with further development of the EJ200 engines, and work being carried out on thrust-vectoring nozzles, as far as has been publicly released, there has been no further development of the EJ200 for production aircraft.
@@high-velocitymammal5030 The lack of funding, planes, and more sits at joke status. But consider the RAF basically has a broken training path - if you had more planes, unless you fix the training path - anyway. Yes, all your points are valid. As is that the current core 40 plane fleet of the RAF is doing almost all the actual real world work. And on development, again all points correct - and yet stating that - also shows development on platform could be done. Don't have to go to a new plane to do that..
The Eurofighter is expected to be overpowered if modeled realistically. The only reason it isn’t considered a generational leap is the F-22, although the difference in actual combat performance between these two might be quite marginal.
I knew about this, but didn't want to go on a long tangent - there is some debate if this is intentional (the LI-1 vs LI) and/or the specific model it gets will be patched. It wasn't worth delaying the review over, since they change shit so damned often anyway. :-\
Same, I had a real German friend who mains Germany. He is so happy and started speaking German with me even though I only speak English and Norwegian 🤣
@@casualspawnpeeking3680 but most of them use a laser rangefinder to detect range, i thought that's why they spent so much on making the PIRATE irst have laserless rangefinding using kinematics?
@@parapat9957 None of those are going to come for years. We haven't even gotten to the AIM-120C-5 and you think the Meteors or Iris-T are coming anytime soon....
@aflyingcowboy31 the irst will come with the new IR missiles we will probably get this summer, regarding the meteors and sutch, usually we get a new gen of missiles every 2 years at different rates, this summer was the radar time next one is the IR ones, next one again we will get other radars
@@parapat9957 Sorry bud, meteors aren't coming anytime soon, we aren't even close to the AIM-120C-7 or AIM-120D yet. IRST also isn't coming, that will be likely maybe when the AIM-9X block 2 comes, not with the normal AIM-9X. So no, you aren't getting either this summer. FYI Meteors won't be coming until like the AIM-260 and some Russian equivalent exists, so yea no. The next missiles we will be getting are further improvements of the AIM-120.
I don't do a lot of gaming on Gentoo any more, but I use it for my secondary desktop and home server. I've been running Gentoo since the early 2000s, and actually made some contributions to the SPARC64 port since I had access to Sun SPARC hardware to test it on (I'm one of the 0.0000000001% who actually ran Sun Solaris on SPARC as my daily-driver desktop at home for a while). I also run Gentoo on my workstation at the office.
Im amped about this in Air RB but dreading it in ground battles. We really need static SAM sites around the battlefield or something because these planes can outrange most AAA easily
There is a fair amount of discussion about that point, and I'm not confident which specific version of the 9L they *intend* for the German one to have. We may see a patch in the very near future.
@@TimsVariety Digging through the files because this confused me as well, despite both missile modifications for the F-4F ICE and Typhoon being called AIM-9L/I-1 in the mod menu, and both being referred to as AIM-9L/I in their respective HUDs, the game has given the Phantom the 9L/I, while the Typhoon gets the 9L/I-1. Why Gaijin doesn't reflect this in the game UI is beyond me, but they definitely are considered to be two separate missiles by the game.
I have almost 2 whole avition tech trees but I don't know which plane I should choose for grinding Germany. Should I choose lazur-m or tornado ids wtd61
If you've got it narrowed down to 2 or 3 potential grinders, fly 10 missions with each and keep notes to see which one gives you more total RP after 10 matches. Use that one. Everyone's playstyle is a little different, so what plane works better for person A might not be best for person B.
Sup Tim, amazing review as always gotta catch up to high tier germany with the swiss hunter. Do you have an opinion on the changes to the su27sm? i doubt it's major enough to be worth a vid but more turn and a new engine seem nice. makes using the r77 even a bit more enjoyable.
I don't know if you mentioned it, but the Brimstones are actually nerfed by Gaijin. They are supposed to much better. Cpt Toastman did a video about it when taking out the Tornado GR.4 for a flight. PS: I would love to see a video about the Eurofighter history.
@@TimsVariety Can I ask you an other question unrelated to WT: Did you taken down your video that you did around a year ago about the new licence agreement of Wizzards of the Coast? There is a guy who is suing Mojang for something similar and did a great video about why he is suing ( Kian Brose's video)
@@TimsVariety I coundn't find it on the other 2 either. KSP dedicated or the other one for reviews and random games. Did you changed the name of the video? I even ask you a similar question about it on your other channel.
Frankly the things that piss me off the most is that in war thunder, the HMD simply doesnt work. Sometimes it tracks head on targets at 15km, and sometimes it fails to acquire the target you want to lock, even if they show you their back or belly at ranges of under 10km, making it basically useless, meaning you cant really fire aim120 with anything other than tws or rws, and for both, the mig-29 radar does its job more reliable in war thunder. Datalink doesnt work, so you need to detect targets yourself, and worst of all, the flight model is completely busted, which becomes noticable in sim. IRL this plane cannot be stalled by extreme stick inputs, the flight computer simply doesnt allow those inputs to be processed. The plane itself will not allow you to stall your aircraft. Yet in WT it easily stalls out. The HMS does not work properly, as you need to switch to HMS mode, sacrificing TWS and RWS when using it, but it also means, that if you lock a zarget in tws or rws, and its outside of your HUD, you have no way whatsoever to know its position, wince the HMD doesnt turn on when looking away from the HUD (it worked on the dev server, so no idea how they managed to screw it up for live server). Not that it matters since in sim theres abaolutely no target icons in the HUD so the only way to positively identify enemy location on the Y axis is to spot them using the Mk1 eyeball. So what do we have here? A plane with a radar that in its current state is surpassed drastically by the Mig-29 and some F4 variants, missiles that track less riliably than the Aim-120A, IR missiles that dont lock properly in head-on attacks unless below 4km, while the R-73 can lock reliqbly at 7km and less, an HMD that doesnt work, a HUD that cant be used in Sim, and a Sim flight model that makes it nearly unusable. Gaijin really messed up the implementation of this plane.
So the French dropped out, over the rest of the nations not wanting a naval ver? Could they have not just made the landing gear and tail hook and assembled it on their own soil? It already has the thrust and canards to help with carrier takeoff/land.
Hey Tim sorry to say but you got the IR missile for the German Eurofighter wrong, it has the "AIM-9L/I-1" now which just makes it smokeless compared to the AIM-9L/I. not a big deal but just wanted to let you know, I don't remember when they made the switch but I was grinding for it last night and saw the difference. Good vid as always ^^
The typhoon still feels like an unfinished aircraft. By the time war thunder fixes these shortcomings I’m sure other nations such as the USA will have their own top tier jet such as the f18. I don t know if that’s necessary a bad thing however.
this isn't real life... using the video for this example, Eurofighters don't fight other Eurofighters in a 32 aircraft furball in real life, and angle of a radar is where you draw a line? wise up wee man.
There is also some confusion about if the AIM-9L/I-1 is intentional (vs the AIM-9L/I) and the specs its supposed to have. I expect them to patch the German one fairly soon.
A bit bummed that the Rafale seems to be relegated to being just ok, but I’m Not sure how close they are in real life or if gaijin did the typical nerf France
"It feels a bit overpowered"... If the Eurofighter is like this...i can only imagine when the likes of Su-35(or even F-22) come in.. High tier air RB will turn into nightmare fuel...
except neither one of those can compete with the Eurofighter irl anyway. Eurofighter has clapped the F-22 at Red Flags. America just overhypes that plane.... Eurofighter has better acceleration, better TWR, faster climb rate, faster turn rate.... it literally outclasses the F-22 in every single way except one.... stealth.
Yeah the F-22 will just dominate, It will eat Rafales, Typhoons, Su-35s for lunch on a daily basis,whether in BVR or Close in dogfights, it's gonna either be the absolute undisputed king, or nerfed into oblivion. Either way it will be death to any nation that isn't on the US's side lol
France GTFOd out of the original project, which eventually culminated in the Rafale (and just to give the middle finger, the prototype flew first in 1986 lmaooo)
and to give the middle finger back, google "Eurofighter beats Rafale".... or if anyone's a delusional yank "Eurofighter beats F-22" Eurofighter is still undisputed king of the skies ;)
@@SA80TAGE Literally not, the F-22 will beat the EF-2000 in a heartbeat without even giving it much thought, Whether it be Dogfight or BVR, the Eurofighter is dogwater compared to the Raptor.
See other comment threads on here about that topic. There is contention/confusion about the 9L/I , and it may be patched (again) so I didn't want to delay the video's release over such a minor bit of minutia.
Or ASRAAMS. They would shrek everything unless some seriously funky stuff was added for other nations. Also Meteors are at their best when you have AWACS which isn't in game, yet)))
USA has the most aircraft in their tech tree already, stop being such whiny little begging dogs.... it's not like the Hornet can compete with the likes of the Typhoon or Rafale anyway lol.
Small correction Gaijin decided to give the German eurofighter the Aim-9L/-1 that also has a smokeless motor making it in game at least identical to the 9M
See other comments about it. There is contention/confusion about the 9L/I , and it may be patched (again) so I didn't want to delay the video's release over such a minor bit of minutia.
Been a while Tim, I had to unsub as I quit war thunder and needed all WT videos on my feed gone. I know there's an event coming up, and though u don't play anymore I'd forgotten to try and let people know outside of forums gaijin can comm ban me or get my comments deleted that anyone who mentions PVE in-game or on a steam discussion will be banned. I found out earlier this year before I quit playing, like I said there's an event coming up soon so I just wanted to let people know, I'd you say anything about PVE in game chat it means a 30 day ban If anyone reports anyone or you, since their chat report scans game chat(I found this out the hard way, as someone in a lobby had been cursing and got reported, I had only mentioned PvE and got banned as well, for no less than 30 days) Also anything that could be considered telling people to not spend money or to only play if you're having fun can get you comm banned on steam and in-game, both have happened to me and the moderators i talked to didn't do anything, basically acted like bots with no souls citing TOS/chat rules that they essentially just bend when they want to.
lol watching your vid and test flying typhoon in game.. noticing they changed the gun port and it is now uncovered (yesterday was covered).. minute later, you talk about it being closed in the vid... so sad news, but your vid is outdated now:D
Great review, but i do have a question about the 9L/I. Ive been hearing that it does not have IRCCM. Do they actually have it in game? I trust your information more than the other places ive heard the opposite from.
I believe its supposed to, but there is also some confusion about what the exact model of the 9L/I on the German EF is supposed to be. I'm expecting a patch at some point in the near future, so I didn't spend a lot of time on it.
@@TimsVariety don't ask about the stupid names of things we have here in Scotland.... our main government building is called Holyrood... I mean, wtf is that!!!
Re-uploaded to fix a technical error about the radar set. Sorry, my source material (Jane's All-The-World's-Aircraft in this case) didn't distinguish between different versions of the CAPTOR radar.
Jane’s isn’t a good source, it’s not accepted for bug reports
Tim, I'm gonna say something, and I hope it wouldn't make you do another re-upload. The AIM-9L/I the German Eurofighter have? its also smokeless. like the AIM-9M. the designation is AIM-9L/I - 1, the dash 1 meaning it got upgraded with a similar smokeless motor within the AIM-9M
@kizvy You could give a gaijin developer a ride in the jet, and they wouldn't accept it for a bug report.
Also, they addressed the radar versions in a later year of the encyclopedia. Its my own damned fault for not using my latest volume (which has more accurate/updated specs, but less info about the development).
@@AuGTN01 I knew about this, but didn't want to go on a long tangent - there is some debate if this is intentional (the LI-1 vs LI) and/or the specific model it gets will be patched. It wasn't worth delaying the review over, since they change shit so damned often anyway. :-\
Thank you for the immediate reupload, I was legit halfway through when it went private, and I was so bummed 😂
including "cosmetics are a bit off" in the cons, just shows how strong that plane is
I don't call something "overpowered" lightly, but this one really does feel OP at the moment.
I'm sure they'll powercreep it with an Su-37 or Super Hornet or something in the next update.
@@TimsVariety There's not a single aircraft they can add with flight performance that can compete with it until the F-22, genuinely. The only thing that they can add before then to counter it would be modern Fox-2s like 9x, IRIS-T and ASRAAM...2 of which arm the nations that use Typhoon
@@TimsVariety I like the Super Hornet, but it doesn't have the performance to touch the Typhoon.
Thrust-to-weight isn't even close. Coupled to that it has WAY more drag throughout the vast majority of the envelope. The Hornet's only possible advantage is the AN/APG-79 AESA (at least on the later aircraft, or retrofitted ones). But how War Thunder models radar, I doubt the advantages of an AESA are going to be realised.
Also, Su-37 was only a demonstrator, if they add the Su-57 on the other hand... While seemingly less stealty than the Raptor or Lightning (so less useful 99% of the time), that thing looks like it has some serious aerobatic performance!
There was some mock-up dogfight over Germany lately between a Eurofighter flown by a German pilot and an F-35 flown by an American. The Eurofighter won. If Gaijin doesn't pull something funny, the Eurofighter (or some more modern version of it that's yet to be added - the ones added now are very early models after all) should stay competitive even when they run out of planes to add. Even though it's not primarily designed to be stealthy, it still has a very faint radar signature, newer models can apparently screw with enemy radar, the best weaponry is on the Eurofighter itself...
I love the fact that they added it, all three nations desperately needed something good at top tier, but it's simply too strong for War Thunder in late 2024 to implement properly.
@Eintracht-uy3cz because most of the dogfights don't actually represent actual combat.
Sure a Typhoon is going to fly circles around a F-35. And the Typhoon won because they begin these dogfights within visual range.
They basically negate the advantage of stealth by the setup of these dogfights. An F-35 is going to dominate a BVR fight. If an F-35 gets into a close range dogfight, they f***ed up!
You are hands down the best war thunder content creator out there
aww, gee
I have to second this. My life included many briefs to high up folks and your life experience as one who speaks to many is very evident. You are very professional. You and Tankenstien are my two favorite content creators for your ability to give knowledge and make it enjoyable to absorb.
@@TimsVariety Seriously, I've mentioned you in game once when someone had radar questions in sim. The universal response in that lobby was 'Tim's the GOAT'.
@@robertgaudet7407 Aww, gee. :-)
The funny thing is, that Austria managed to buy the most barebone configuration of the Eurofighter and still needed it to be stripoed down more so that it has no night-fighting capability and no defensive systems. But we fly sorties with 2 Iris-T missels, but no SARH or Active Radar Homing missels.
What's the point of having an airforce then if you have to kneecap yourself so hard
@antikythera42 We don't need to. Not anymore. After the crisis on our border with Slovenia where our Draken couldn't do anything to subsonic flying enemy Mig-21, because our Drakens where only allowed to be armed with guns as per our state treaty of 1955. The realized how stupid this was and lifted the ban, but after the end if the iron curtain and the expansion of NATO, Austria was surrounded by neutral or NATO states, which where allies even if Austria can't join NATO. So the military budget was cut and over the years it reached a point where even the barracks couldn't really be renovated. So when they put the Draken into retirement and the F-5 lease we had with Switzerland was over there were only really two viable aircraft: the Gripen, a multirole aircraft that was cheaper and came from a country with a similar background (neutral, conscription with many soldiers, but a limited standing army) or the Eurofighter, a more expensive but more capable aircraft. Long story short they bought the Eurofighter that had capabilities that were never intended to use and tried to cut down maintenance costs by stripping everything possible out. And until now there is still a court case about corruption from the officals and Airbus. Truth be told if there would have been a classical intetceptor at that time they would have bought that.
@@jojosworlds1208 sounds like Ireland, the countries around it allow for it to essentially offload its defense kind of like Austria. Why can't Austria join NATO? Is there just no desire to join or something?
@BlackHawkBallistic After WW2 Austria was occupied by the Allies. To get it's territories back and become a sovereign country again it had to commit to a perpetual neutrality in its new constitution. I could be changed, but because many people don't understand the concept and limitations correctly, the 2/3 majority in our national council needed to change the constitution is very unlikely to happen.
buy some used mig-25/31,simple as
i had a conversation with a tyhoon pilot a year or so ago, and he said that the gun has a thin film like material put over it when the groundcrew are working on it, and it is designed to tear when the gun is fired. the basic purpose is to protect the gun from FOD
Yep, essentially a cap is fitted and is shot through when the gun is used, its then replaced after the sortie
FYI the reason "in real life at least " the gun is sealed is because normally the gun shoots itself open. At least in the Bundeswehr it's meant to be.
That 1 on 1 near the beginning was intense. Why can't I ever get duels like that?
there are 15 other players looking for easy kills to advance the grind
In that particular match, he was the last man standing, and the only other guy up on my team was an Su-34 hitting ground targets. I almost never get duels either unless its at the end of a match (at least, at top tier), its nothing but third-party snipes anytime you try to setup a 1 on 1.
more like Paralympics :D but I love Tim not becouse he knows how to play the game ;)
I do but then some shitter comes and kills him or me
I wish there was a 1v1 game mode
You know what is more exciting than a 1v1? A 1v2 and that's more common and fair for the UFOFighter
Reposting from the old video, but I saw one of the prototypes for the Typhoon at the RAF Museum last week. Hell of an aircraft to see up close. It’s a shame they don’t get Meteors or ASRAAMs yet, but hopefully they will in the future.
Definitely being saved for a Tranche 2/3 upgrade iteration down the line for a higher BR bracket. Once they start adding extremely good IR missiles like the ASRAAM, AIM-9X, IRIS-T as well as the most latest long range radar missiles like the Meteor, AIM-174, etc; that will most definitely be a next step in air combat meta much like how 90s era FOX-3s did to the game earlier this year. Hopefully Gaijin will actually expand the game modes, maps, etc because that will be mentally insane if air rb doesn’t fundamentally change by then lol
RAF Cosford?
@@pelliqs922 nah, the other site in Barnet.
Another awesome video!
The dogfight against the other Eurofighter Typhoon at the beginning was awesome. Loved the “smoke” after locking in the victory there lol
Hey Tim, the German Eurofighter gets the AIM-9 L/I-1 now, which has a smokeless motor too :)
See other comments about it here.
@@TimsVariety now aim 9m :]
The radar fucking hallucinates I swear
Its missiles - the thing LOVES to track missiles in flight from halfway across the map.
@@TimsVariety so does that mean it’s to good lmao. I heard talk it was just the sea harrier radar but no clue
@@TheEverLastingRose I can see scenarios where you save friendlies by targeting enemy missiles if it's that good.
I don’t play top tier jets (my mental health drew a line in the sand) but seeing each of these reviews is worth watching regardless thanks to the brief history and to support the channel.
I was so focused on the dogfight I didn’t even pay attention to the first half of the video lol
The canards (which function as all-moving elevators) are moving the wrong way.
As part of a tailplane, the elevators need to create downwards lift (leading edge rotates down) at the back of the aircraft, in order to rotate the aircraft, nose up.
When canards instead are used, to rotate the front of the aircraft up, the canards must instead create positive lift, so the leading edge rotates up.
I'm assuming they just used the same code as controls the model of a regular tailplane, only moved the position... What they seem to forgotten to do is 'angle * (-1)' to the elevator position (when it is forwards of the centre of lift).
One of the "visual oddities" I alluded to :-( It isn't the first time they've done this either.
If you told me 4 years ago the euro fighter would be in war thunder I would have laughed. Can’t believe it’s here!
0:35 so make a hour long video about its history. I honestly don't know anything about it. Other than it can go under maps lol
Trust me, its tempting lol
@TimsVariety you never know. Could be your most viewed video
@@TimsVariety To quote a Sith: Do it!
@@TimsVariety I already know almost everything about the Eurofighters history already, I'd still watch that video ;)
Been waiting for this day for a long time; my all time favorite plane along with the Rafale, which I’m sure you’re already making the review for.
Yep, Rafale is next.
@@TimsVariety it’s a good day to be a Euro-canard hipster…
@@Scarp7141 amen to that brother.... it's a shame Heatblur will have finished and released their Eurofighter for DCS long before I grind through any tree in War Thunder to get it though lol. Ah well, hope you guys have fun it, and show your opponents why you don't mess with with the undisputed king of the skies!
@@SA80TAGEfr….hopefully within a year they’ll be a EFA event vehicle or premium for you snag. I could see one of the two seater instrumental planes, the DA pre-series planes or some of the other nations like Spain 🇪🇸 , Austria 🇦🇹 , Qatar 🇶🇦, etc.
I cannot wait to grind this out and get my hands on this beast. It’ll be next level when ASRAAM and the meteor missiles get added.
5:19 No joke, if you run min fuel and no weapons, you can climb off the runway in a 90 degree vertical climb, and still accelerate.
Great video, as always!
I find your Videos so informative and educativ!
Took 2 days of grinding but I got it, it’s my new favourite plane in the game, going from the gripen to the fgr4 feels so good as the fgr4 is so much faster
Thanks Tim for another outstanding basic review.
Glad to have seen EAP many times. It is on static display at RAF Museum Midlands.
I don't know why, but this video got me pumped for the Typhoon in DCS and not War Thunder. Oh well.
My channel has a fair amount of viewers who don't even play the game :-)
@TimsVariety oh I do have War Thunder, been playing since the highest jets were the Sabre and the Mig-15. But when the Hungarian tree was added it locked the last rank, and I just gave up. I don't have the time and the money to get the Italian Typhoon...
Star of Ace Combat series and flagship fighter of Spanish version of Ace Combat 5: The Unsung War.
30 years of Eurofighter EF-2000 Typhoon - Rainbow Dash and Zipp Storm of the fighters - in 2024 and 30 years of Ace Combat series in 2025.
Super cool video man! If the EF-2000 is that good, i can't even imagine how the thrust vectoring aircrafts will be!
Now we're just awaiting the F-18...
Good stuff, Tim! As always
Japan is still waiting on the F-2 which Gaijin doesn't want to add because of the AESA radar
But given they added the Rafale-
Best WT content creator going love the history on the planes
Finally.
No more F-4F ICE!
*realizes he has to grind the EF still*
Soon!
Its worth it.
@@TimsVariety It will be. Thanks for the great videos Tim. I appreciate it.
@Squeaky_Ben atleast you don't have to use to F104S ASA to grind
What a dual you had there!
The Brits kept this programme alive. We are so lucky that we did, and the progress on the plane has taken it to be a pinnacle multi-role fighter. It would be a mistake to allow the production line to go cold and spend on developing new platforms. Late era Typhoons will be a top tier jet until they retire.
Absolutely menace to think about the later modernised Typhoon, they armed with aim-132 ASRAAM, meteor and storm shadown. I can feel how scary that thing is even though it might came out around late 2025.
Saying that we are dragging our feet extremely hard on Captor-E Mk.2, meaning we are still stuck with a mechanically steered Captor-M array while other nations are fitting out with the AESA Captor-E Mk.0 and Mk.1
We have, last I checked, refused to fund Meteor Mk.2 development.
I'm also not sure if we've committed to implementing Airbus' aerodynamic refinements including LERX, though those may be standard for all models of the next planned tranche, I'm not sure.
And despite it being announced 10+ years ago that there was 10-20% room for thrust growth with further development of the EJ200 engines, and work being carried out on thrust-vectoring nozzles, as far as has been publicly released, there has been no further development of the EJ200 for production aircraft.
@@high-velocitymammal5030 The lack of funding, planes, and more sits at joke status. But consider the RAF basically has a broken training path - if you had more planes, unless you fix the training path - anyway. Yes, all your points are valid. As is that the current core 40 plane fleet of the RAF is doing almost all the actual real world work. And on development, again all points correct - and yet stating that - also shows development on platform could be done. Don't have to go to a new plane to do that..
God I love your videos!
and there are several HUNDRED to binge on! ;-)
I love these. Planning on making a video on the Rafale?
Yes, the Rafale is next.
The Eurofighter is expected to be overpowered if modeled realistically. The only reason it isn’t considered a generational leap is the F-22, although the difference in actual combat performance between these two might be quite marginal.
They are in fact sometimes considered "Generation 4.5"
Small detail: Spain never left the eurofighter program after joining it, and it is currently one of the countries with a larger number of them.
I was just thinking about coming back to my British jets and this video comes through..
Uh, I could swear I had already seen this video earlier today ;). Re-watching and re-liking to help with the algorithm.
Since Su-30SM was leaked by Olivia recently. I wouldn't be surprised if we saw it next update with the F-2 and F/A-18C
i am grinding the uk tech tree this week from zero to hero
Hey, tim a bit of a correction the german EF2000 uses the aim9L/I-1 which has a smokeless motor (gaijin forgot to rename the stock aim9l/i to its -1)
I knew about this, but didn't want to go on a long tangent - there is some debate if this is intentional (the LI-1 vs LI) and/or the specific model it gets will be patched. It wasn't worth delaying the review over, since they change shit so damned often anyway. :-\
@TimsVariety completely valid, honestly I'd rather the Ef2k get the base L/I cause it's funny making people think its a 120 and eat a aim9
I have a friend who mains Germany, he's been waiting for it since they added the F4F ICE 🤣 Nonetheless, great video!
HUUUUUUUGE upgrade over the F-4 family.
Same, I had a real German friend who mains Germany. He is so happy and started speaking German with me even though I only speak English and Norwegian 🤣
In terms of its flight performance, it is a dwarf that can burrow and swim underground...)))
gunport doesnt open when firing
i expected no less from gaijin lmao
have you considered making full history videos on the vehicles that you cover?
Please always remember Gaijin steal the AB thrust on it
And Gaijin did no explain about it
You forgot to mention the 27mm cannon the Mauser BK-27 at 3:44 ,Tim .😊
3:15 Should the optical pod lock onto radar-locked aircraft at any distance? Because it rarely does so in the game right now... Is this a bug?
can british eurofighters laser warning reciever detect irst?
Nothing detects IRST
IRST detects heat signatures so it is not detectible by MAW or any LWR
@@casualspawnpeeking3680 but most of them use a laser rangefinder to detect range, i thought that's why they spent so much on making the PIRATE irst have laserless rangefinding using kinematics?
It wouldn't be the LWR; it would be some of the UV sensors on the MAWS detecting rocket motor burn.
So what are the differences between the three?
it's the KING of 4.5 gens for a reason
Just wait until we get the later tranches in .... going to dominate even harder ...
@TimsVariety Meteors, Iris T, non nerfed Brimstones and storm shadows go BRRRRRRRRTTTTTT
@@parapat9957 None of those are going to come for years. We haven't even gotten to the AIM-120C-5 and you think the Meteors or Iris-T are coming anytime soon....
@aflyingcowboy31 the irst will come with the new IR missiles we will probably get this summer, regarding the meteors and sutch, usually we get a new gen of missiles every 2 years at different rates, this summer was the radar time next one is the IR ones, next one again we will get other radars
@@parapat9957 Sorry bud, meteors aren't coming anytime soon, we aren't even close to the AIM-120C-7 or AIM-120D yet.
IRST also isn't coming, that will be likely maybe when the AIM-9X block 2 comes, not with the normal AIM-9X. So no, you aren't getting either this summer.
FYI Meteors won't be coming until like the AIM-260 and some Russian equivalent exists, so yea no. The next missiles we will be getting are further improvements of the AIM-120.
Do you do these videos on Linux (since you mentioned you use Gentoo), or do you use it for work or something?
I don't do a lot of gaming on Gentoo any more, but I use it for my secondary desktop and home server. I've been running Gentoo since the early 2000s, and actually made some contributions to the SPARC64 port since I had access to Sun SPARC hardware to test it on (I'm one of the 0.0000000001% who actually ran Sun Solaris on SPARC as my daily-driver desktop at home for a while). I also run Gentoo on my workstation at the office.
Im amped about this in Air RB but dreading it in ground battles. We really need static SAM sites around the battlefield or something because these planes can outrange most AAA easily
I really hope I can unlock this before they nerf it into the ground or power creep it into being useless.
Ok, the in built targeting optic. I have nevermind seen one in any picture, and it doesn't appear to be in any photo. Is it BS?
It certainly turns like a typhoon
The game incorrectly refers to the IR missile on the German Eurofighter as fhe AIM-9L/I. It is actually an AIM-9L/I-1, which is smokeless
There is a fair amount of discussion about that point, and I'm not confident which specific version of the 9L they *intend* for the German one to have. We may see a patch in the very near future.
@@TimsVariety Digging through the files because this confused me as well, despite both missile modifications for the F-4F ICE and Typhoon being called AIM-9L/I-1 in the mod menu, and both being referred to as AIM-9L/I in their respective HUDs, the game has given the Phantom the 9L/I, while the Typhoon gets the 9L/I-1.
Why Gaijin doesn't reflect this in the game UI is beyond me, but they definitely are considered to be two separate missiles by the game.
@TimsVariety In the language files, it's referred to as "us/weapons_aim9l_i_1_sidewinder" so I'm pretty confident that it's intended as an AIM-9L/I-1
I have almost 2 whole avition tech trees but I don't know which plane I should choose for grinding Germany. Should I choose lazur-m or tornado ids wtd61
If you've got it narrowed down to 2 or 3 potential grinders, fly 10 missions with each and keep notes to see which one gives you more total RP after 10 matches.
Use that one. Everyone's playstyle is a little different, so what plane works better for person A might not be best for person B.
shouldnt it get 10 missiles? it literally says that on the steam page.
Can you explain if the differences have any significant impact on gameplay?
They really don't. With the exception of the IRST being missing, all 3 felt the same to me in a practical sense.
@@TimsVariety ah, thank you! I enjoy your succinct and well-researched videos!
They fixed the gun port model issue by the way
A while back, they fixed a bug literally AS I was uploading a review video. Epic timing, as always :-)
Full video on the EF Typhoon history when?
When I get a month of free time, and about 2-4 hours of stock EF-2000 gameplay footage to use ;-)
Sup Tim, amazing review as always gotta catch up to high tier germany with the swiss hunter. Do you have an opinion on the changes to the su27sm? i doubt it's major enough to be worth a vid but more turn and a new engine seem nice. makes using the r77 even a bit more enjoyable.
I haven't tried out the 27sm yet since the update, so I can't offer an opinion.
I don't know if you mentioned it, but the Brimstones are actually nerfed by Gaijin. They are supposed to much better. Cpt Toastman did a video about it when taking out the Tornado GR.4 for a flight.
PS: I would love to see a video about the Eurofighter history.
Everyone knows the brimstones are nerfed.
@@TimsVariety Can I ask you an other question unrelated to WT: Did you taken down your video that you did around a year ago about the new licence agreement of Wizzards of the Coast? There is a guy who is suing Mojang for something similar and did a great video about why he is suing ( Kian Brose's video)
@@fijapopovic5335 I think its still up on my side channel, link on the main channel page
@@TimsVariety I coundn't find it on the other 2 either. KSP dedicated or the other one for reviews and random games. Did you changed the name of the video? I even ask you a similar question about it on your other channel.
Frankly the things that piss me off the most is that in war thunder, the HMD simply doesnt work. Sometimes it tracks head on targets at 15km, and sometimes it fails to acquire the target you want to lock, even if they show you their back or belly at ranges of under 10km, making it basically useless, meaning you cant really fire aim120 with anything other than tws or rws, and for both, the mig-29 radar does its job more reliable in war thunder.
Datalink doesnt work, so you need to detect targets yourself, and worst of all, the flight model is completely busted, which becomes noticable in sim. IRL this plane cannot be stalled by extreme stick inputs, the flight computer simply doesnt allow those inputs to be processed. The plane itself will not allow you to stall your aircraft. Yet in WT it easily stalls out. The HMS does not work properly, as you need to switch to HMS mode, sacrificing TWS and RWS when using it, but it also means, that if you lock a zarget in tws or rws, and its outside of your HUD, you have no way whatsoever to know its position, wince the HMD doesnt turn on when looking away from the HUD (it worked on the dev server, so no idea how they managed to screw it up for live server). Not that it matters since in sim theres abaolutely no target icons in the HUD so the only way to positively identify enemy location on the Y axis is to spot them using the Mk1 eyeball.
So what do we have here?
A plane with a radar that in its current state is surpassed drastically by the Mig-29 and some F4 variants, missiles that track less riliably than the Aim-120A, IR missiles that dont lock properly in head-on attacks unless below 4km, while the R-73 can lock reliqbly at 7km and less, an HMD that doesnt work, a HUD that cant be used in Sim, and a Sim flight model that makes it nearly unusable.
Gaijin really messed up the implementation of this plane.
I just barely started grinding for this jet and i already want to kms
So the French dropped out, over the rest of the nations not wanting a naval ver? Could they have not just made the landing gear and tail hook and assembled it on their own soil? It already has the thrust and canards to help with carrier takeoff/land.
so how do i use aim 120s on the f4f ice to even grind this plane
Check my channel vids for my tutorial on air to air missiles.
@TimsVariety i can try
I just hope there is one for this one missile that explaind how to use im conundrum with the 24 bombs i carry on the f4f ice
@@FM-hw8yv I promise, my radar guide and missile guide will answer all your questions.
Hey Tim sorry to say but you got the IR missile for the German Eurofighter wrong, it has the "AIM-9L/I-1" now which just makes it smokeless compared to the AIM-9L/I. not a big deal but just wanted to let you know, I don't remember when they made the switch but I was grinding for it last night and saw the difference. Good vid as always ^^
Check the other comments on this post about it.
@@TimsVariety didn't see the other comment, my b
@@Jack931 Its all good, im sure at least 25 people are going to mention it, then the snail will do a patch, and 25 ppl will mention the patch ;-)
@@TimsVariety Yeah.. I can see how annoying that can get. also somehow I'm having worst luck with the new 9L/I-1 than the original
The typhoon still feels like an unfinished aircraft. By the time war thunder fixes these shortcomings I’m sure other nations such as the USA will have their own top tier jet such as the f18. I don t know if that’s necessary a bad thing however.
f18 doesn't bring anything new to US
Yep… I guess I should continue my british air tech tree. Currently on the meteors 😢.
The good news is, if you're getting to the meteors, you've got some great and fun aircraft ahead :-)
In reallife the radar has 110° view angle. so why not ingame?
this isn't real life... using the video for this example, Eurofighters don't fight other Eurofighters in a 32 aircraft furball in real life, and angle of a radar is where you draw a line? wise up wee man.
I'm purely annoyed cause the Germany ef has a place holder radar still..
There is also some confusion about if the AIM-9L/I-1 is intentional (vs the AIM-9L/I) and the specs its supposed to have. I expect them to patch the German one fairly soon.
only another 300k research🙏
Can you do a me 262 maybe?
Ill get to it eventually
A bit bummed that the Rafale seems to be relegated to being just ok, but I’m
Not sure how close they are in real life or if gaijin did the typical nerf France
Im having a great time with the Rafale so far, my review will be fairly positive.
@ awesome to hear! Haven’t gotten their yet but I love the French fighters, I was only going based on what people were saying
The rafale feels very nice you can easily dogfight everything except for the euro fighter
why would france of all things insist on having aircraft carrier capability?
For their aircraft carrier.
im fairly sure TWS is broken all around, ive been locking ghosts in practically any top tier
not ghosts, enemy missiles. Good chance you saved some friendlies and never even knew it.
"It feels a bit overpowered"...
If the Eurofighter is like this...i can only imagine when the likes of Su-35(or even F-22) come in..
High tier air RB will turn into nightmare fuel...
except neither one of those can compete with the Eurofighter irl anyway. Eurofighter has clapped the F-22 at Red Flags. America just overhypes that plane.... Eurofighter has better acceleration, better TWR, faster climb rate, faster turn rate.... it literally outclasses the F-22 in every single way except one.... stealth.
Yeah the F-22 will just dominate, It will eat Rafales, Typhoons, Su-35s for lunch on a daily basis,whether in BVR or Close in dogfights, it's gonna either be the absolute undisputed king, or nerfed into oblivion. Either way it will be death to any nation that isn't on the US's side lol
@@SA80TAGEDuring red flag exercises the F-22 was carrying fuel tanks.
France GTFOd out of the original project, which eventually culminated in the Rafale (and just to give the middle finger, the prototype flew first in 1986 lmaooo)
and to give the middle finger back, google "Eurofighter beats Rafale".... or if anyone's a delusional yank "Eurofighter beats F-22"
Eurofighter is still undisputed king of the skies ;)
@@SA80TAGE Literally not, the F-22 will beat the EF-2000 in a heartbeat without even giving it much thought, Whether it be Dogfight or BVR, the Eurofighter is dogwater compared to the Raptor.
i was the 1000th like.. hell yeah
Hey Tim, its actually the AIM9L/I-1 which has a smokeless motor as well. so its basically a 9M ^^ good review as always =)
See other comment threads on here about that topic.
There is contention/confusion about the 9L/I , and it may be patched (again) so I didn't want to delay the video's release over such a minor bit of minutia.
@ oh okay, thanks for the info =)
lets gooo
And now the German EF2K got 9Ms 😂
They love to patch stuff right after I put out a video.
@ you still put out the best content though. Keep it up!
God,this plane is sexy...
No Meteors for the Brits?
Not *yet*
Or ASRAAMS.
They would shrek everything unless some seriously funky stuff was added for other nations.
Also Meteors are at their best when you have AWACS which isn't in game, yet)))
Why are we having 9L stock at 14.0 that's goofy af bruh
Eurofighter, Rafale, and still no Hornet :(
Shh you got F14, F15 and F16
USA has the most aircraft in their tech tree already, stop being such whiny little begging dogs.... it's not like the Hornet can compete with the likes of the Typhoon or Rafale anyway lol.
Ah. As red team sim player I going to have more worse time 😅
TH-cam unsubscribed me from your channel >:(
Ill never forgive them
Its not just you - I've heard that at least a dozen times this year - people randomly being unsubbed from the channel. No idea why it happens. :-(
The plane is alright but the radar is basically useless and worse in every besides detection range compared to the Su-27SM and Su-27S radars
something something wrong enemy
bro really said vid instead of saying video
good video overall tho
Small correction
Gaijin decided to give the German eurofighter the Aim-9L/-1 that also has a smokeless motor making it in game at least identical to the 9M
See other comments about it.
There is contention/confusion about the 9L/I , and it may be patched (again) so I didn't want to delay the video's release over such a minor bit of minutia.
Hot take, I don’t like the look of the Euro Typhoon.
Been a while Tim, I had to unsub as I quit war thunder and needed all WT videos on my feed gone.
I know there's an event coming up, and though u don't play anymore I'd forgotten to try and let people know outside of forums gaijin can comm ban me or get my comments deleted that anyone who mentions PVE in-game or on a steam discussion will be banned. I found out earlier this year before I quit playing, like I said there's an event coming up soon so I just wanted to let people know, I'd you say anything about PVE in game chat it means a 30 day ban If anyone reports anyone or you, since their chat report scans game chat(I found this out the hard way, as someone in a lobby had been cursing and got reported, I had only mentioned PvE and got banned as well, for no less than 30 days)
Also anything that could be considered telling people to not spend money or to only play if you're having fun can get you comm banned on steam and in-game, both have happened to me and the moderators i talked to didn't do anything, basically acted like bots with no souls citing TOS/chat rules that they essentially just bend when they want to.
lol watching your vid and test flying typhoon in game.. noticing they changed the gun port and it is now uncovered (yesterday was covered).. minute later, you talk about it being closed in the vid... so sad news, but your vid is outdated now:D
They looooove to do that to me. Earlier this year they updated a plane WHILE my vid was uploading....
Great review, but i do have a question about the 9L/I. Ive been hearing that it does not have IRCCM. Do they actually have it in game? I trust your information more than the other places ive heard the opposite from.
I believe its supposed to, but there is also some confusion about what the exact model of the 9L/I on the German EF is supposed to be. I'm expecting a patch at some point in the near future, so I didn't spend a lot of time on it.
@TimsVariety thank you.
WHERE IS MY F-18
Up ur ass
lol... Americans, kings of the uncreative acronyms, throwing shade at others for uncreative acronyms, will never not be hilarious. XD
Oh, I throw shade at America for our uncreative acronyms too, I assure you! :-)
@@TimsVariety don't ask about the stupid names of things we have here in Scotland.... our main government building is called Holyrood... I mean, wtf is that!!!