yeah I know right the girl told her about her insecurities and reasons for getting surgery but tyra refuses to acknowledge it and tries to tell the that she is insecure based on her insecurities and how in America it's only black and white not only is there racial profiling
I spent probably my whole life trying to get rid of stereotypes about Asian Versus Caucasian appearances. I grew up in a family where both my parents had thick double eyelids. Only my two sisters and my grandma were born with monolids. It bothered me people would come up to us and ask where we were from, if we were mixed or if we had surgery. My parents made it clear that where they are from which is more south east China, a lot of people have double eyelids. I studied humanities in college and i learned anthropologically speaking the fold does not make a person Caucasian. The fold is believed to be a evolutionary adaptation. Monolids are more common in Northern East Asia as the fatty eyelids helps to insulate against harsh winters. Double eyelids are common south because it is more humid and hot. Believe it or not Caucasians can also have monolids. It is mostly seen in more northern regions of Europe. As for myself I have a mix of my grandma's monolid and my parents double eyelids so I have what is called tapered eyelids. I use double eyelid tape on rare occasions, mostly when filming or formal events. I am also a insomniac, when I have restless sleep, my eyelids feel heavy and stretches out into a monolid. There is actually a medical condition called Ptosis which sometimes require eyelid surgery. So I think its wrong to assume everyone who wants double eyelids, do it to look "Caucasian"
@@Ladeliciadelinda Your last statement is my very same sentiment. I've had this surgery but without the intention of looking like a Caucasian. You will still look Asian even after having it. She is implying superiority to be honest as if Asians don't want to embrace themselves and wants to be Caucasian.
@@Ladeliciadelinda Most chinese have single eye lids. But there are more people in China who have natural double eye lids since the population is bigger and more variety. Korean and Japanese have less people with double eye lids only like 2% of the population
@@girlbaby9311 why are you bringing Japanese into this? A lot of people get eyelid surgery. And I’m pretty sure that it was invented in Korea during wartime.
Who cares? Seriously. The girl in this video was obviously unhappy with her eyes, and so she did something about it and now she's happy with them. So as of result, Tyra brings her on the show and bashes her for it and now there are idiots in the comments doing the same. "I think she looked better before" good for you, obviously SHE didn't think so. And at the end of the day the only thing that really matters is what you think about yourself. Caucasians also aren't the only race with double eyelids, or straight hair. Tyra also found a way to make it all about her. As usual. "I do this because I want to look more white" sweetheart that is your own damn problem that you need to deal with. Quit bringing others down to feel better about yourself. And don't judge Korean culture or any Asian culture on this. They aren't the only ones with strange ways to look beautiful or the only ones to use plastic surgery. I'm glad this show isn't on anymore.
So why did Tyra got surgery on her nose?!? Why did she not embrace her African wide nose, but instead got surgery to make it thinner? Is Tyra not proud of her African roots? She changed her nose to refuse her beautiful natural african features?!?! She is sooooo fake and how dares she to tell anybody what to say and what to do?!
Tyra is not rude here, she is simply pointing out the truth and a lot of times the truth hurts. Tyra understands the emotions because she is also a minority who went through similar experiences.
Unlike other talk show hosts who actually let the guests speak without interrupting them, Tyra is a really impolite conversationalist. She kept butting in, would barely let her speak and made it all about her and what she thought about the issue. She wasn't really listening to her either as she thought she knew the issue, when she really didn't.
@@OVI-Wan-Kenobi-8 No it's not bullshit lies and denial, it's sheer ignorance from Tyra because she is assuming that Korean people want bigger eyes because they want to look more white (which is bullshit). Tyra is applying her own experiences as an African American woman to this woman's choices, when she clearly doesn't have a clue about Korean culture lol. As always she just has to put the focus onto herself: "Look at my hair, this is why I do this. I'm so understanding and smart, and everyone is going to admire me for assuming you think and feel just like me". White people may naturally have bigger eyes, but that doesn't mean that Asian people want bigger eyes because they want to look caucasian 😂 Large eyes have been seen as a mark of beauty in Korea for thousands of years (probably before they knew that white people even existed lol).
OMG, Tyra doesn't understand that black girl struggles are so much more different than Asian girls' struggles... Asian girls don't get "weaves" and she probably doesn't know that South Korea is known for their skilled plastic surgery specialists so it's the norm to get plastic surgery as a Korean, so it's not a big deal. and then there Tyra is preaching like she knows everything. Just because the Korean girl is not telling Tyra what she wants to hear doesn't make her dishonest, I think Tyra is facing her own struggles there...
Wow. I used to be a fan of tyra banks. a lot of asians have natural double eyelids. therefore, it's not one step closer. Also, being an asian myself, the eyelids could be drooopy. As older, they do tend to get worse. Some but not all asians have a lot of fat on their eyelids and it does weigh them down. Why the fuck is she saying "not being honest?" I think the girl is being honest? What is the purpose of this? Is tyra trying to say that asians are trying to look caucasian?
I don't know if you know but the hair color does not indicate race. There are Asians who naturally have blonde hair. Celebrities choose to have different colors of hair including purple, red, white, blonde and etc. They just choose those colors that match their concept of the song. Also, eyelid surgery does not make Asians look like Caucasians. I don't know where you get those references, but Asians have different bone structures, medial canthal ligaments, muscle, and fats around the eye. It is impossible to make Asian eyes into Caucasian with surgery. So it does not make sense to reason Asians get eyelid surgery to look like Caucasians. Asians simply get eyelid surgery to look 'prettier' because as you know when human face features look like a baby such as big eyes, we are engineered to think those faces are very cute. Also, as this comment says, because of the fat in the eyelid unlike other races, Asian eyes get droopy. So a lot of senior Asians get eyelid surgery to remove fat. These misunderstandings need to be clarified and I hope my comment may correct your prejudice that you might get from the wrong source. Thanks.
As someone who grew up in China, I feel that I have the right to jump in and clarify this:Asians do NOT undergo the double eylid surgery to look more Western. Having double eyelids makes your eyes look bigger, and big eyes are considered to be UNIVERSALLY attractive on women because they are associated with innocence and youthfulness. In middle school, we read a Chinese novel written 400 years ago which describes a beauty having "snow-white skin and almond (big & upward slanted) eyes". This was before China had any Western influence. Of course with globalization, more Asians are starting to accept the Western standards of beauty. The same can be said about the West, with more people going to the tanning salon nowadays. But In the end, everyone is just trying to fit into their own culture's standards of beauty. This has nothing to do with wanting to "change your identity".
+Jacelyn C THANK YOU! Double eyelids occur in about 50% of Asians, NATURALLY. I really hate how the media is being disingenuous about this. www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2884917/
The only reason some asians have natural double eyelids is cuz they come from mixed race parants. It was pretty common especially during the war. People would claim both parants are asian but never addmited or knew the parant was of mixed race. And that's how it is eith all cultures. The odd ones out are typically mixed
@@audrawilson8347 Tyra is just frustrated herself because her fake beauty is driven by this imaginary white beauty herself. She thinks everyone is like her. 😂😂😂 she was so passive aggressive with the poor girl.
Wayne Galaxy yes!!! Does everyone forgets that Indians are Asian too and we have pretty huge eyes and eyelids with brown skin tone we are not Caucasian we are Asian too. Duh....
Whoa,smh. Tyra needs to stfu comparing her 'hair weave' problems with her eyes. Its not the fucking same. And convincing her to say the truth? That was just bullying on stage.
A minute in I was thinking "she's not be racist, she just wants to know more about the surgery since its not common for her" but as soon as she tried to call her out as lying and wanting to be white I got pissed off. And after that when just basically cut the girl off to talk to the people she brought in I was more pissed off!
Asiatic eyes are exotic and beautiful, those are also found in some Native American Women too. Asiatic eyes are sexy, why would any Asian Women want their eye folds removed? On the other hand, if surgery makes you feel better about yourself, by all means use it. Actually it's Whites who have the highest per-capita of surgeries and hair dying when compared to other races. Is this a double standard?
CHINESE & KOREANS GET EYELID & OTHER SURGERIES TO LURE WHITE PEOPLE INTO MARRYING THEM. They have successfully married whites in good numbers since doing this surgery in the 80s. Because they want their children to have bigger eyes. IN CHINESE CUSTOMS, YOU'RE ONLY BEAUTIFUL IF YOU HAVE BIGGER EYES. Ask a Chinese senior if you don't believe. (China & Korea are the plastic surgery capitals of the world.) IT'S NOT RACISM WHY THEY DO THIS SURGERIES IN USA, Australia, Canada, England & others. Why? Because Chinese in China & Koreans in Korea get this surgeries too, in the same %, around 80% of them. This girl got teased in elementary, but did this surgery now ?? that she no longer gets tease but at the age ready to get marry. Not all Asians have small eyes. A good portion of Vietnamese & Indonesians & others. NOT ALL ASIANS HAVE SMALL EYES. A good portion of Vietnamese & Indonesians & others have double eyelids. Google it.
Jamba Lyer I never said all Asians have small eyes, WTH? Most Asiatic people do have noticeable eye folds and different eye shapes, but eye folds and shape varies from regions or ethnic groups. I know there are some Asian countries or cultures that have high rates of surgeries to remove eye folds to meet a certain standards of their country, but some of that is attributed to the Eurocentric West. People can counter that, and say that some Whites have issues with their skin color and want to get tans or darken their hair. Some Whites have surgical enhancements because they want bigger booties or breast because they may see that in other ethnic groups or it maybe to just meet the perceptions of the West's standards of beauty. .
Noone fucking says anything when white ppl risk getting skin cancer to get darker and spend lots of money & time @ the tanning salon. Doesn't mean they are hating, everyone just wants what they don't have, that's just life
I'm also a Korean-American who underwent double eyelid surgery. And NO way I did it to make myself to look more Caucasian, I did it because I was very unhappy with my small eyes. Since having bigger eyes is a worldwide beauty standard, many Asians feel pressured to achieve that extra fold cause it makes a huge difference. Tyra seriously needs to get her facts straight.
+marmie cobby She looks like Asian with a different ethnicity. Keep in mind that a lot of South-East Asians have natural double eye lid. Not East Asians - China, Korea, Japan. They are not playing fair by doing this surgery
+marmie cobby bully who me? Hahaaa are u having a giraffe u ignorant bitch. Attention seeker if u dont pay attention to people like me why reply????? Simply ignore.....u still look black with ur fake hair tho still very beautiful dont get me wrong!!!!
@@ggwhy110 thats not true because even many Southeast Asians have monolids but like the other poster stated double eyelids are just more common in Southeast Asia than it is in East Asia...same as brown skin tones are more common in Southeast Asia and just more diversity overall
I hate that she is being passive aggressive to her guest by saying to her other guest thank you for being honest and pointing out to her guest that shes being honest about her hair trying to force her to say that she did the surgery because shes Asian when she might have just thought it was aging her and wasn't lying. I think she looked good before and after its not like she got a big surgery its only a small change and if it made her feel happier about her self then that's great, Tyra should not make her feel bad about it if its making her happy.
U can see the before and after picture of her that her eyesize is still the same !! You can measure it through ur computer screen .! so why tyra accused her of trying to look western ?? Her eyes is still the same except her crease is more obvious now !! And not all asians have monolid ! Go travel to asia Americans lol
J Mo No ! crease don't exaggerates the eyesize ! U can tell through the before and after picture ..and eyesize is an eyesize a crease is a crease !!look her eyes don't appears big even she went to double eyelid surgery !it only makes a double wrickle ..it only appears bigger if she puts eye make up on her eyes !!
J Mo No ! crease don't exaggerates the eyesize ! U can tell through the before and after picture ..and eyesize is an eyesize a crease is a crease !!look her eyes don't appears big even she went to double eyelid surgery !it only makes a double wrickle ..it only appears bigger if she puts eye make up on her eyes !!
Lol " i want to thank you for being honest Doctor." Why would you say that Tyra ? This girl was being honest . And if she wasn't that's not for you to intimidate people to say what you want them to say.
If Tyra were to ask me that question about me wanting to be White just because of eyelid surgery, I'd straight up say, "Good question, what about you? When you made your nose smaller back then, which...you obviously did. Is it because you wanted to be White as well? Because White people don't have big bulbous nose like yours did." That would've been a great show.
Why do all these western people think Asians want to look white?? a lot of Asians naturally have double eye lids that doesnt mean they are closer to being white then people with monilids lol Some people have it for medical reasons when they are really young.. there is a symptom that the lashes keep poking the eye and you have no choice but to do the surgery. also i saw some white people saying we dye hair and wear contacts to look white..doesnt every race do that? Im Korean, i have hazel eyes while most of my friends have brown. that doesnt make me look white! if we really wanted to look white, we would have tanned and put on makeup with western style. the style of makeup in Asia and western countries are different. also we like pale skin because it gives us a youthful look and was a symbol of wealth in the past.
Hardly any chinese, koreans and japanese have double eye lids. Maybe like 2% of the population. Chinese might have more double eye lid then the koreans and japanese since the population is bigger and more variety.
Asian American / White American Interracial marriage statistic 2009 Vietnamese men/ white women: 12045 Vietnamese women/ white men: 15408 Japanese men/ white women: 23345 Japanese women/ white men: 52580 Filipino men/ white women: 21893 Filipino women/ white men: 25450 Hmong men/ white women: 2232 Hmong women/ white men: 6532 Taiwanese men/ white women: 4350 Taiwanese women/ white men: 22805 Korean men/ white women: 9410 Korean women/ white men: 47058 Chinese men/ white women: 19545 Chinese women / White men: 22869 Laos men/ white women: 3054 Laos women/ white men: 1250 Cambodian men/ white women: 2350 Cambodian women/ white men: 1028
What about the Oompa Loompa's, boob implant and butt implant people. Hollywood, magazines, photoshop? She had an eye crease she just emphasised them using surgery... Other people utter much more than a fold on their eyes and Tyra goes ballistic... -__- All I can say is life is short live life and be happy. Don't let bullies like Tyra make you feel bad. She's not someone that cares for you in your life she's judgmental that's all!
this is complete offensive shit, Tyra is telling her what to say "You want to look more caucasian" don't force shit like that on her, you wouldn't say that to a black person who has dyed their hair.
Its so common for korean women have that eye surgery though, and its because they want their eyes to appear bigger and it's not even high risk like a lot of surguries we do here. A lot of them get it done in their last year of high school, it's like getting their teeth whitened...tyra made a bigger deal out of this than it is
fuck me, 2:45 Tyra is actually getting annoyed that she's not saying clearly that it's race related. Of course it's fucking implied that her eyes looked like that because of her race, but she's freaking antagonizing her about it.
I have absolutely no eyelid crease and I'm proud of it. I'm Korean, and it is part of who I am. I'm not white so why would I want to look white? Sure I wear makeup to make my eyes look bigger, but most women do. As long as you're happy with what you see in the mirror, who cares what others think?
There are soooo different reasons for getting double eyelid surgery that aren’t all just “to look Caucasian” like yes us Asians may not naturally have double eyelids whereas white people do, that doesn’t mean we want the eyelids to look white. Double eyelids make eyes look bigger and there are many influences within Asian cultures that depict large eyes as a form of youth and beauty that don’t even derive from Eurocentric roots and another reason could be makeup I know growing up I wanted double eyelids not to look white but bc I wanted my eyeliner to be seen when my eyes were open lmaooo y’all gotta understand how upsetting it is to spend time on eyeliner and have it not be seen
The surgery was first developed and performed in Korea by Dr. D. Ralph Millard, an American military plastic surgeon who was stationed in the country during the Korean War (1950-53). Among the very first Koreans who received the particular procedure were Korean war brides who married American soldiers During the war, Korean eyes without the crease ― referred to as the superior palpebral fold in American medical texts ― were dubbed “slanted,” and were seen as a mark of inscrutability and deviance. In her text, Kim argued that it was significant that Millard, who is one of the pioneers of Asian double eyelid surgery, was a military surgeon whose experience of Asian bodies was firmly rooted in Cold War ideologies and discourses.
The double eyelid surgery also represented assimilation. It was used to help Asian War Brides better assimilate into the US by having eyes that look more Caucasian. After all, these were Asian war brides were marrying into white families.
Yes, you want Tyra to shut up because it is painful and transparent when we realize how society defines in a singular way what beauty is, what is mainstream acceptance! KaholFitz: what an absurd response and TELLING response! This girl was obviously bullied by her classmates and suffered self-esteem issues because she lived in a world that excluded her idea of beauty and what is pretty. Tyra did right by helping her to confront her own inferiorty complex. Sorry KaholFitz: Tyra wasn't the bully but the kids AT HER SCHOOL were the BULLIES!! Instead of attacking Tyra, stop for a moment and look at herself in the mirror!!!!
I'm an Chinese male, flat nose, normal sized eyes with double lids (depending on how well I sleep -.-). People tell me I'm handsome a lot, Caucasians, Asians and Hispanics alike. I worked out it isn't the features which make you beautiful, it is how well they match each other. Features are like clothes. Being good looking is subjective to every person who sees you, it depends on how different you look to them and what they like personally based on their experiences.
Damn Tyra ........................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................I usually have a lot of like for you but seriously though this episode....How do you know what beauty standards are in the entire world? Wow that was quite ignorant seriously...assuming people want to look 'white'? Jesus...I'm not even sure how to respond to this one..not everybody in the world has these Americanised and that's what they are Americanised perspective of beauty not Western because western countries are very accepting of other looks for the most part, I'm Nigerian and I've lived in an Asian country [thank's dad's job] but I've never wanted to feel 'white' neither do I think Chinese people in the UK are going to want to look 'white'. I just seems like she's trying to do the typical American thing of narrowing everything down to a specific point, and from an outsider perspective that's very irritating. I lost a bit of respect because of this video..
In Korea apparently it's a normal thing to get plastic surgery, parents give it to kids without a second thought as a graduation present. Just about ALL their celebrities and tv personalities have had it too, it's become common-place. Although Korean-American it's probably not much different in the local community where this lady spends her time now as an adult... that's what Tyra doesn't get.
Please dont talk like youre korean and know everything about korea lmao. Yeah everyone in korean can afford mollion won surgery .Yeh korea is the richest country int he world ! There are MANY natural celebrities. And korean american community, is actually really different. Lmao.Ignorance.
I see some people commenting about how most 'Asians' have monolids. I definitely do not notice that where I come from, which is Malaysia, and most of the people I mix with are Malaysian-Chinese. Most of us have double eyelids, or maybe hooded double eyelids. Not many at all have monolids. If anything, something very common over here is uneven eyelids, whether it be one double and one mono, or just double lids with uneven creases. I definitely don't think it's 'trying to be white' to want to have even eyelids, to have the frustration of having to deal with different looking eyelids every morning. For those with just plain monolids, having the surgery can make them look more awake. And these surgeries don't even make eyes look 'white', they just create the classic 'Asian' double eyelids. It is true that many Asians consider white people to be better-looking, but we don't get surgery TO LOOK WHITE. Double eyelids/bigger eyes are almost UNIVERSALLY considered to be beautiful, just like white straight teeth, and nobody's condemning anybody for wanting to get braces or their teeth whitened.
I'm a fan of Tyra and a big fan of ANTM from Korea but I feel bad that Tyra seems to be making her own claim to that Asian woman. In fact, Westerners and Asians have very different eye structures, so they have double eyelid surgery due to drooping eyelids. But she doesn't believe this at all! You have to have an understanding of other races.
Tyra should have done more research. According to this korean plastic surgeon, double eyelids tend to give a friendlier appearance. Since the first impression is important in Korean (and I think he said East Asian culture in general) a lot of parents buy eyelid surgery for their kids to improve their job chances (btw I think Monolids are beautiful but he was stating why some people prefer double eyelids). Also at QOVES video on East Asian beauty standards they stated that Japanese women from the 1800s or earlier just prefer the appearance of double eyelids to monolids. It has nothing to do with looking white and she made herself look like a fool.
Why does Tyra always have to make everything about herself and about her being the poor victim. She always had such a victim mentallity back then it was so draining to watch. It was the same in the Naomi interview
you know koreans still have double eyelids (i do), and i have a pretty big one too with big eyes (I'm korean). but, only 1/10 koreans will have double eyelids (like actual big set ones). So, it isn't about trying to look white or whatever, koreans still do have them naturally, it's just some don't. btw, Africans, Indians, and Blacks all have huge eyes with deep set double eyelids. yeah, that lady was totally trying to look white -.-
True. Not all asians look same. North east asians have mobolid eyes in general ( i said general. There are people with double lid eyes) and tend to have fair skin with small upper nose while south east people in general have doublelid eyes, and olive skin and flat nose ( but there are people with higher nose. Not much) .
I watched this expecting to hear some bullshit come out of Tyra's mouth... but really, I'm fuckin shocked at how many dislikes this has and how much hate Tyra's getting. There's undeniably a "eurocentric" ideal of beauty, and you can hear this straight from the mouths of many Asian's. Of course this doesn't mean every single Asian who seeks the double-eyelid surgery has this in mind (as there are always exceptions to generalizations), but I think it was admirable that Tyra shared her own struggle and experience growing up and I imagine her own battle with physicality has affected her perception (not entirely wrongly so, but it's probably why she over did it)
Little you know about makeup, they put so much above the eye and they put eyeliner below and above the eye, this makes the eyes more defined and appears bigger (much similar to circle lenses that have an outer limbal ring that enlarges the eyes) Plus the double fold does make the eyes bigger, it makes a peripheral area above the eye implying that it belongs to the eye and thus it makes it bigger. "Longer" eyes, you probably refer to cat-like feline make-up, but nothing to do with asian eyes.
Whats stupid, is that she is prettier then the average American girl for sure! Possibly an average asian, although in general they look hot. (I'm not asian)
I think that everyone has a right to change their image if they feel it makes them happy. I don't think it has to do anything with erasing your ethnicity or anything else. I am Latina but have afro-centric features and want to get lipo and a tummy tuck because I think it would make my body look great after having had two kids. I won't be any less Latina if I do that and neither is anyone else who changes their look through any means. The fact of the matter is, Tyra was being very pushy about the subject and made that poor girl incredibly uncomfortable for no reason. While it is true that people should be happy with their natural appearance, I have never met a person who was 100% satisfied with every part of their body. Some people choose to live with it and some choose to change it and both are valid choices. My only issue with plastic surgery is the risk you take of something going wrong but other then that we know that we live in a world where beauty matters a lot even for professional careers. Everyone wants to be beautiful and beauty is viewed differently in every culture so to that girl, more power to you. To all those who choose to live out your lives naturally, power to all of you too. Instead of tearing each other down why don't we build each other up instead. Food for thought.
Asian getting eyelid surgery is not about looking caucasian. Having a droopy eyelids can hinder your vision. My uncle even beg my cousin to have an eye surgery.
If it weren't for TH-cam and Asians coming forward with this, I never would have imagined that this was going on!! As for this person, I see no improvement from the before and after photos. Yes, I do see the crease but she looked perfectly beautiful before.
Ok... When you draw your eyelines upward then, is it because you want to be an asian? And if you tann your skin, is it because you want to be an African? In my opinion, people just want to try different things what they don't possess. And Tyra and many africans and south east asians have also double eyelids too.
I really don't think tyra right to say that when she changed herself to fit into that European standard of beauty as well, its everybody's choices and we should not shame ourselves or anyone else them.
@AnTra23: Having straight hair in the black community does not necessarily translate into wanting to be 'white' so to speak, but having straight/white girl hair is a characteristic that is predominately wanted in the black female community because of the sadly misconstrued ideal of beauty (Eurocentric). Although wanting straight hair doesn't always mean this, as a black female, there is by far a negative impression within the black community concerning 'natural black kinky hair'.
I love Tyra but she took this way too far. Usually it's not even about looking more European. Did she not consider how DIFFICULT it is to apply make up evenly to hooded eyes especially so that is can be seen? Especially if both eyes are not equivalent in their hoodedness? That's why people most often get this surgery. And yes, hooded eye do rest on or over your eye lashes which can be very uncomfortable especially when looking up in the slightest. I am disappointed in Tyra for not really giving this woman a chance to talk or fully explain herself and for not exploring exactly why this surgery is so common.
non asians just won't get it unless they already know people like that. Having a monolid does come with certain difficulties like lashes poking the eyes just like if you had bigger thighs your pants would be tighter and less comfortable. It isn't bull at all, it is obvious and only fair enough. Some old korean people like 80 and 90 get eyelid surgery cause their wrinkly heavy lids make it difficult to see. Some kids are born with monolidded eyes and develop double eyelids in their teens. Meanwhile I used to have a flat nose and it suddenly began growing in my preteens, just like a women's breasts would lol. My cousin who has natural double eyelids once lost a double eyelid on one eye due to her obesity becoming more extreme. Some asian eyelids are not as set-in-stone as other races, ya know. It really is about our race and culture and tyra mishandled an entire human race. Imagine if an asian woman tried to lecture a black woman all about kinky hair versus "good hair", how insulting it would be for black women? Just the same thing.
I think that is because mostly everyone in the world already have double eyelids so its one of those things that we ignore or treat as unimportant, but to Koreans and other Asians seems to be an important part of their physical appearance!
I am telling you that "changing" the eyes in shape and size is something done daily with make-up. Why making a permanent change have to be so bad? Some girl have permanent make-up tattooed on their features. I like the after effect, and she likes it as well. You can call me a racist for liking big eyes (or big eye effect with surgery or make up) but I don't care how you feel about it. I also like straight or wavy hair more than really curly or kinky hair texture,will you judge me for this too?
Tyra, just because she got double eyelid surgery, DOES NOT mean she wants to look Caucasian. It does not mean that she wants to change her ethnicity. And you DONT KNOW what her real reason of getting the surgery was. So stop acting like you know why she had it done.
Sometimes people tease because their jealous of that which they tease you for. Kids do it cuz they are most honest, but don't know they hurt your feelings. As you get older and hopefully see other people and places with those who may look like or resemble you, you see that beauty comes in ALL different races and ethnicities. Im Happy to Be Nappy!
Should have kept her original eyes. Most look better with a crease but hers actually looked better prior. Practically all Koreans try to erase their ethnicity, no one's authentic anymore.
dude in korea they get double eyelid surgery im mean its natural like kpop idols get it why do she get to be on tv about it why cant she just interview all of asia or something lol
Omg Tyra! This isn't about you and your insecurities. Let the girl stand in her own truth instead of imposing what you think you know
yeah I know right the girl told her about her insecurities and reasons for getting surgery but tyra refuses to acknowledge it and tries to tell the that she is insecure based on her insecurities and how in America it's only black and white not only is there racial profiling
Bingo
She didn't even want to let the asian girl talk. It was annoying. . .
NoNori well when you talk out of your ass... real gon call you out
I spent probably my whole life trying to get rid of stereotypes about Asian Versus Caucasian appearances. I grew up in a family where both my parents had thick double eyelids. Only my two sisters and my grandma were born with monolids. It bothered me people would come up to us and ask where we were from, if we were mixed or if we had surgery. My parents made it clear that where they are from which is more south east China, a lot of people have double eyelids. I studied humanities in college and i learned anthropologically speaking the fold does not make a person Caucasian. The fold is believed to be a evolutionary adaptation. Monolids are more common in Northern East Asia as the fatty eyelids helps to insulate against harsh winters. Double eyelids are common south because it is more humid and hot. Believe it or not Caucasians can also have monolids. It is mostly seen in more northern regions of Europe.
As for myself I have a mix of my grandma's monolid and my parents double eyelids so I have what is called tapered eyelids. I use double eyelid tape on rare occasions, mostly when filming or formal events. I am also a insomniac, when I have restless sleep, my eyelids feel heavy and stretches out into a monolid. There is actually a medical condition called Ptosis which sometimes require eyelid surgery. So I think its wrong to assume everyone who wants double eyelids, do it to look "Caucasian"
@@Ladeliciadelinda Your last statement is my very same sentiment. I've had this surgery but without the intention of looking like a Caucasian. You will still look Asian even after having it. She is implying superiority to be honest as if Asians don't want to embrace themselves and wants to be Caucasian.
@@Ladeliciadelinda Most chinese have single eye lids. But there are more people in China who have natural double eye lids since the population is bigger and more variety. Korean and Japanese have less people with double eye lids only like 2% of the population
Tyra thinks shes so wise......giving advice against things shes guilty of herself.
democrazy I bet you are Japanese. Btw that surgery is invented in Japan
Guilty of what? Having found out her nose was broken? Shut your dumbass up.
@@girlbaby9311 why are you bringing Japanese into this? A lot of people get eyelid surgery. And I’m pretty sure that it was invented in Korea during wartime.
Tyra may admit she does surgery and have weaves but she's one of the most self hating biracial people. Fake hair, and fake nose etc.🙄🙄🤣🤣
tyra is so anoying
i agree.
Who cares? Seriously. The girl in this video was obviously unhappy with her eyes, and so she did something about it and now she's happy with them. So as of result, Tyra brings her on the show and bashes her for it and now there are idiots in the comments doing the same. "I think she looked better before" good for you, obviously SHE didn't think so. And at the end of the day the only thing that really matters is what you think about yourself. Caucasians also aren't the only race with double eyelids, or straight hair. Tyra also found a way to make it all about her. As usual. "I do this because I want to look more white" sweetheart that is your own damn problem that you need to deal with. Quit bringing others down to feel better about yourself. And don't judge Korean culture or any Asian culture on this. They aren't the only ones with strange ways to look beautiful or the only ones to use plastic surgery. I'm glad this show isn't on anymore.
ALittleBrittles haha Bravo!
WMAF is toxic. Proven fact. Truth hurts huh?
Exactly!!!
at least the Asian woman should be honest about it. her reasons that her eyes were sagging giving her a tired look was obviously BS
@@emperorqianlong6579 Lmaooooo not the WMAFs!
So why did Tyra got surgery on her nose?!? Why did she not embrace her African wide nose, but instead got surgery to make it thinner? Is Tyra not proud of her African roots? She changed her nose to refuse her beautiful natural african features?!?! She is sooooo fake and how dares she to tell anybody what to say and what to do?!
Girl shut up. Know your facts before talking. Tyra's nose was broken and when she found out she decided to fix it.
Tyra is a white wannabe, she had a child with a white guy
@@romanzmlv1458 Tyra doesn't have kids
Because she wanted to be a super model that bad
@@abigailwilliams8889 Lol if only I had a dollar every time I heard that excuse from people that got a nose job.
Tyra kept making it about her instead of the guest.Lmao smh.
As a (part) black woman who dyes her hair blonde, Tyra is a total hypocrite.
+BellamyBlue Your's is temporary 'surgery', double eyelid is permanent surgery.
+BellamyBlue tyra is not part black. she is fully african american but i can see why you would think she mixed.
tyra ain't a hypocrite cuz she admitted to it and was honest about it.
Thank you.
Chile that's a wig, she all natural up under there
It's her decision. Tyra is especially rude here. I'm not for surgery but, seriously how do you know how SHE feels. People have different emotions.
Tyra is not rude here, she is simply pointing out the truth and a lot of times the truth hurts. Tyra understands the emotions because she is also a minority who went through similar experiences.
Tyra is the worst host ever. She just bullied her.
The truth does hurt but she's just being honest.
Tyra has a narrative that she wants the guest to go along with
she always bullied POC but when it comes to white people she would glorify them
FR, the girl tries to explain that she did it to look more American not white and Tyra tells her she’s doing it to look more white lol
@@janicejanisjan Being racist?
Unlike other talk show hosts who actually let the guests speak without interrupting them, Tyra is a really impolite conversationalist. She kept butting in, would barely let her speak and made it all about her and what she thought about the issue. She wasn't really listening to her either as she thought she knew the issue, when she really didn't.
Lol she interupt with Naomi back in 2005.
Tyra is speaking that way in this video because she sees through the Asian women's BS lies and denials.
@@OVI-Wan-Kenobi-8 No it's not bullshit lies and denial, it's sheer ignorance from Tyra because she is assuming that Korean people want bigger eyes because they want to look more white (which is bullshit).
Tyra is applying her own experiences as an African American woman to this woman's choices, when she clearly doesn't have a clue about Korean culture lol. As always she just has to put the focus onto herself: "Look at my hair, this is why I do this. I'm so understanding and smart, and everyone is going to admire me for assuming you think and feel just like me".
White people may naturally have bigger eyes, but that doesn't mean that Asian people want bigger eyes because they want to look caucasian 😂 Large eyes have been seen as a mark of beauty in Korea for thousands of years (probably before they knew that white people even existed lol).
she's extremely rude here tbh.
Truth hurts
When Tyra asked why she did it, I would've just said "Because I wanted to."
OMG, Tyra doesn't understand that black girl struggles are so much more different than Asian girls' struggles... Asian girls don't get "weaves" and she probably doesn't know that South Korea is known for their skilled plastic surgery specialists so it's the norm to get plastic surgery as a Korean, so it's not a big deal. and then there Tyra is preaching like she knows everything. Just because the Korean girl is not telling Tyra what she wants to hear doesn't make her dishonest, I think Tyra is facing her own struggles there...
Totally agree.
Wow. I used to be a fan of tyra banks.
a lot of asians have natural double eyelids. therefore, it's not one step closer.
Also, being an asian myself, the eyelids could be drooopy. As older, they do tend to get worse. Some but not all asians have a lot of fat on their eyelids and it does weigh them down.
Why the fuck is she saying "not being honest?" I think the girl is being honest?
What is the purpose of this? Is tyra trying to say that asians are trying to look caucasian?
@@dakotawinchester No she was not she didnt get eyelid surgery to look whiye
I don't know if you know but the hair color does not indicate race. There are Asians who naturally have blonde hair. Celebrities choose to have different colors of hair including purple, red, white, blonde and etc. They just choose those colors that match their concept of the song. Also, eyelid surgery does not make Asians look like Caucasians. I don't know where you get those references, but Asians have different bone structures, medial canthal ligaments, muscle, and fats around the eye. It is impossible to make Asian eyes into Caucasian with surgery. So it does not make sense to reason Asians get eyelid surgery to look like Caucasians. Asians simply get eyelid surgery to look 'prettier' because as you know when human face features look like a baby such as big eyes, we are engineered to think those faces are very cute. Also, as this comment says, because of the fat in the eyelid unlike other races, Asian eyes get droopy. So a lot of senior Asians get eyelid surgery to remove fat. These misunderstandings need to be clarified and I hope my comment may correct your prejudice that you might get from the wrong source. Thanks.
@@dmoon5095 thank you
Alot don't maybe south east asians. East asians hardly any Japanese and korean have double eye lid surgery
@@dmoon5095 full blooded Orientals don't have blonde or ginger hair. And hardly any koreans have natural double eye lids
Tyra is shaming this girl for her making a completely self-aware choice and imposing her victim mentality onto her.
As someone who grew up in China, I feel that I have the right to jump in and clarify this:Asians do NOT undergo the double eylid surgery to look more Western. Having double eyelids makes your eyes look bigger, and big eyes are considered to be UNIVERSALLY attractive on women because they are associated with innocence and youthfulness. In middle school, we read a Chinese novel written 400 years ago which describes a beauty having "snow-white skin and almond (big & upward slanted) eyes". This was before China had any Western influence. Of course with globalization, more Asians are starting to accept the Western standards of beauty. The same can be said about the West, with more people going to the tanning salon nowadays. But In the end, everyone is just trying to fit into their own culture's standards of beauty. This has nothing to do with wanting to "change your identity".
+Jacelyn C THANK YOU! Double eyelids occur in about 50% of Asians, NATURALLY. I really hate how the media is being disingenuous about this.
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2884917/
some asians do tho 😂 but not all
The only reason some asians have natural double eyelids is cuz they come from mixed race parants. It was pretty common especially during the war. People would claim both parants are asian but never addmited or knew the parant was of mixed race. And that's how it is eith all cultures. The odd ones out are typically mixed
You words hold no credence. You grew in China. She didn't. She has a completely different experience as an Asian American.
i have double eyelids and I'm not white... lots of races have double eyelids that aren't white!
wrkin90044 can I get an amen? That’s the exact thing I was saying. White people are not the only people with double eyelids Tyra.
wrkin90044 exactly even she has them
@@audrawilson8347 Tyra is just frustrated herself because her fake beauty is driven by this imaginary white beauty herself. She thinks everyone is like her. 😂😂😂 she was so passive aggressive with the poor girl.
Wow tyra ur so smart not all asians have small eyes if they want double eyelids they still look asian .there is no way they gonna look caucasian
Wayne Galaxy yes!!! Does everyone forgets that Indians are Asian too and we have pretty huge eyes and eyelids with brown skin tone we are not Caucasian we are Asian too. Duh....
hina ansari sane with blacks
Whoa,smh. Tyra needs to stfu comparing her 'hair weave' problems with her eyes. Its not the fucking same. And convincing her to say the truth? That was just bullying on stage.
"Because you wanted to look more Caucasian, yes?" Black people & Hispanic people generally have double eyelid, too. Smh.
I naturally have double eyelid
A minute in I was thinking "she's not be racist, she just wants to know more about the surgery since its not common for her" but as soon as she tried to call her out as lying and wanting to be white I got pissed off. And after that when just basically cut the girl off to talk to the people she brought in I was more pissed off!
Wow.
6:35 tyra calls her a liar. she's not lying. that's what she freaking feels.
She's one of the most beautiful Korean-American I'ver seen!
OMG! Tyra is so rude....:(
Tyra, let the girl talk!!!!!
Tyra, who are you to judge?
Asiatic eyes are exotic and beautiful, those are also found in some Native American Women too. Asiatic eyes are sexy, why would any Asian Women want their eye folds removed? On the other hand, if surgery makes you feel better about yourself, by all means use it. Actually it's Whites who have the highest per-capita of surgeries and hair dying when compared to other races. Is this a double standard?
Asian eyes are also found in northern European tribes and Siberia and some southern African tribes.
CHINESE & KOREANS GET EYELID & OTHER SURGERIES TO LURE WHITE PEOPLE INTO MARRYING THEM. They have successfully married whites in good numbers since doing this surgery in the 80s. Because they want their children to have bigger eyes. IN CHINESE CUSTOMS, YOU'RE ONLY BEAUTIFUL IF YOU HAVE BIGGER EYES. Ask a Chinese senior if you don't believe. (China & Korea are the plastic surgery capitals of the world.)
IT'S NOT RACISM WHY THEY DO THIS SURGERIES IN USA, Australia, Canada, England & others. Why? Because Chinese in China & Koreans in Korea get this surgeries too, in the same %, around 80% of them.
This girl got teased in elementary, but did this surgery now ?? that she no longer gets tease but at the age ready to get marry. Not all Asians have small eyes. A good portion of Vietnamese & Indonesians & others. NOT ALL ASIANS HAVE SMALL EYES. A good portion of Vietnamese & Indonesians & others have double eyelids. Google it.
Jamba Lyer I never said all Asians have small eyes, WTH? Most Asiatic people do have noticeable eye folds and different eye shapes, but eye folds and shape varies from regions or ethnic groups. I know there are some Asian countries or cultures that have high rates of surgeries to remove eye folds to meet a certain standards of their country, but some of that is attributed to the Eurocentric West. People can counter that, and say that some Whites have issues with their skin color and want to get tans or darken their hair. Some Whites have surgical enhancements because they want bigger booties or breast because they may see that in other ethnic groups or it maybe to just meet the perceptions of the West's standards of beauty. .
Jamba Lyer Yeah. And her boyfriend was against it. GO figure.
Noone fucking says anything when white ppl risk getting skin cancer to get darker and spend lots of money & time @ the tanning salon. Doesn't mean they are hating, everyone just wants what they don't have, that's just life
MAYBE YA GIRL WANTED REALLY NICE EYELINER NOT EVERYONE WANTS TO BE WHITE
I'm also a Korean-American who underwent double eyelid surgery. And NO way I did it to make myself to look more Caucasian, I did it because I was very unhappy with my small eyes. Since having bigger eyes is a worldwide beauty standard, many Asians feel pressured to achieve that extra fold cause it makes a huge difference. Tyra seriously needs to get her facts straight.
+braveheart20121 You're now 1 step closer to being Caucasian. Truth is it 'helps' you attract white people.
Shar Shar White people aren't the only ones with double eyelids, Asians have them too.
She still looks asian to me and is still beautiful.
+marmie cobby She looks like Asian with a different ethnicity. Keep in mind that a lot of South-East Asians have natural double eye lid. Not East Asians - China, Korea, Japan. They are not playing fair by doing this surgery
+Sony Sony usually I don't pay attention to people like you. But my hair is very real. If anyone is being a bully here is you
+marmie cobby bully who me? Hahaaa are u having a giraffe u ignorant bitch. Attention seeker if u dont pay attention to people like me why reply????? Simply ignore.....u still look black with ur fake hair tho still very beautiful dont get me wrong!!!!
Shar Shar I’m East Asian (Hongkonger) and 95% ppl I know have double eyelids. U dunno anything u r talking about
@@ggwhy110 thats not true because even many Southeast Asians have monolids but like the other poster stated double eyelids are just more common in Southeast Asia than it is in East Asia...same as brown skin tones are more common in Southeast Asia and just more diversity overall
I hate that she is being passive aggressive to her guest by saying to her other guest thank you for being honest and pointing out to her guest that shes being honest about her hair trying to force her to say that she did the surgery because shes Asian when she might have just thought it was aging her and wasn't lying. I think she looked good before and after its not like she got a big surgery its only a small change and if it made her feel happier about her self then that's great, Tyra should not make her feel bad about it if its making her happy.
why can't she let her tell her story? just listen & stop 'judging' Tyra
U can see the before and after picture of her that her eyesize is still the same !! You can measure it through ur computer screen .! so why tyra accused her of trying to look western ?? Her eyes is still the same except her crease is more obvious now !! And not all asians have monolid ! Go travel to asia Americans lol
But the crease exaggerates the eye size and makes it look bigger as well as physically making it vertically larger.
J Mo No ! crease don't exaggerates the eyesize ! U can tell through the before and after picture ..and eyesize is an eyesize a crease is a crease !!look her eyes don't appears big even she went to double eyelid surgery !it only makes a double wrickle ..it only appears bigger if she puts eye make up on her eyes !!
J Mo No ! crease don't exaggerates the eyesize ! U can tell through the before and after picture ..and eyesize is an eyesize a crease is a crease !!look her eyes don't appears big even she went to double eyelid surgery !it only makes a double wrickle ..it only appears bigger if she puts eye make up on her eyes !!
+J Mo there are a lot of asians that have natural double eyelids but still their eyes is small !!
Bt it does make a difference. Especially from far, the crease makes it know that your eye is there.
Lol " i want to thank you for being honest Doctor."
Why would you say that Tyra ?
This girl was being honest .
And if she wasn't that's not for you to intimidate people to say what you want them to say.
Liz is beautiful with and w/o surgery
She's pretty though, the Asian woman. She's prettier than tyra lol.
That’s why Tyra attacked her. She’s jealous
Yes she is prettier the her
If Tyra were to ask me that question about me wanting to be White just because of eyelid surgery, I'd straight up say, "Good question, what about you? When you made your nose smaller back then, which...you obviously did. Is it because you wanted to be White as well? Because White people don't have big bulbous nose like yours did." That would've been a great show.
retrofusion456 lol
Yeah. And she would say yes to those questions, like she did in the video.
Many asians have natural double eye lid as well
Tyra gets arrogant.
Why do all these western people think Asians want to look white?? a lot of Asians naturally have double eye lids that doesnt mean they are closer to being white then people with monilids lol Some people have it for medical reasons when they are really young.. there is a symptom that the lashes keep poking the eye and you have no choice but to do the surgery. also i saw some white people saying we dye hair and wear contacts to look white..doesnt every race do that? Im Korean, i have hazel eyes while most of my friends have brown. that doesnt make me look white! if we really wanted to look white, we would have tanned and put on makeup with western style. the style of makeup in Asia and western countries are different. also we like pale skin because it gives us a youthful look and was a symbol of wealth in the past.
Hardly any chinese, koreans and japanese have double eye lids. Maybe like 2% of the population. Chinese might have more double eye lid then the koreans and japanese since the population is bigger and more variety.
Asian American / White American
Interracial marriage statistic 2009
Vietnamese men/ white women: 12045
Vietnamese women/ white men: 15408
Japanese men/ white women: 23345
Japanese women/ white men: 52580
Filipino men/ white women: 21893
Filipino women/ white men: 25450
Hmong men/ white women: 2232
Hmong women/ white men: 6532
Taiwanese men/ white women: 4350
Taiwanese women/ white men: 22805
Korean men/ white women: 9410
Korean women/ white men: 47058
Chinese men/ white women: 19545
Chinese women / White men: 22869
Laos men/ white women: 3054
Laos women/ white men: 1250
Cambodian men/ white women: 2350
Cambodian women/ white men: 1028
@@Zain94336 every other Asian ethnic has more variety than Koreans
And here we are ten years later and Tyra finally admitting to having a nose job to make her nose sharper aka more eurocentric.
*REALLY?* 😮
What do you mean she final admitted? She says it about her hair. She acknowledges the internal racism.
What about the Oompa Loompa's, boob implant and butt implant people. Hollywood, magazines, photoshop?
She had an eye crease she just emphasised them using surgery...
Other people utter much more than a fold on their eyes and Tyra goes ballistic... -__-
All I can say is life is short live life and be happy.
Don't let bullies like Tyra make you feel bad.
She's not someone that cares for you in your life she's judgmental that's all!
this is complete offensive shit, Tyra is telling her what to say "You want to look more caucasian" don't force shit like that on her, you wouldn't say that to a black person who has dyed their hair.
And tyra was super rude to her, shame on you tyra
Emily Hart agreed.
Emily Hart right
What is Tyra's problem? trying to convince her that she's lying...
So, Did you straighten your hair to look like east asian women? Love your original hair, Tyra.
I'm korean, and I have natural double eyelids.
You guys think that I wanted to be a white? in mother's womb?
Oh my gosh. I just posted a reply and I had the same type of answer about wanting to be white while in my mom's womb too.
If a white gets tanned, it doesn't mean anything but if an asian colors her hair that is NOT PURPLE, then it means wanting to be white. Wow
It's called white privilege.
What is the point of having guests on your talk show if you don't let them talk?
Tyra having straight hair is not about being white, Indians and Asians also have straight hair!
Its so common for korean women have that eye surgery though, and its because they want their eyes to appear bigger and it's not even high risk like a lot of surguries we do here. A lot of them get it done in their last year of high school, it's like getting their teeth whitened...tyra made a bigger deal out of this than it is
쌍꺼풀 수술 백인되고 싶어서하는건 아닌데......, 저건좀아닌듯게스트로 불러놓고 저런식으로 말하네......
fuck me, 2:45 Tyra is actually getting annoyed that she's not saying clearly that it's race related. Of course it's fucking implied that her eyes looked like that because of her race, but she's freaking antagonizing her about it.
Why is the crowd clapping for Tyra...she is more guilty than Liz.
I have absolutely no eyelid crease and I'm proud of it. I'm Korean, and it is part of who I am. I'm not white so why would I want to look white? Sure I wear makeup to make my eyes look bigger, but most women do. As long as you're happy with what you see in the mirror, who cares what others think?
Tyra shouldve focused more on her nose job than her weave
and tyra was wearing a wig to guess what? look more caucasian!!
Yolanda Noe well, she did say that. Did you watch the video?
She admitted it idiot unlike the oriental women denying the reason she did it
Right.... Which she stated herself. Can you listen critically or?
I don't agree with Tyra .maybe that's why she wore a weave but that's not why I started wearing a weave.
There are soooo different reasons for getting double eyelid surgery that aren’t all just “to look Caucasian” like yes us Asians may not naturally have double eyelids whereas white people do, that doesn’t mean we want the eyelids to look white. Double eyelids make eyes look bigger and there are many influences within Asian cultures that depict large eyes as a form of youth and beauty that don’t even derive from Eurocentric roots and another reason could be makeup I know growing up I wanted double eyelids not to look white but bc I wanted my eyeliner to be seen when my eyes were open lmaooo y’all gotta understand how upsetting it is to spend time on eyeliner and have it not be seen
The surgery was first developed and performed in Korea by Dr. D. Ralph Millard, an American military plastic surgeon who was stationed in the country during the Korean War (1950-53). Among the very first Koreans who received the particular procedure were Korean war brides who married American soldiers
During the war, Korean eyes without the crease ― referred to as the superior palpebral fold in American medical texts ― were dubbed “slanted,” and were seen as a mark of inscrutability and deviance. In her text, Kim argued that it was significant that Millard, who is one of the pioneers of Asian double eyelid surgery, was a military surgeon whose experience of Asian bodies was firmly rooted in Cold War ideologies and discourses.
The double eyelid surgery also represented assimilation. It was used to help Asian War Brides better assimilate into the US by having eyes that look more Caucasian. After all, these were Asian war brides were marrying into white families.
So these Asian people looking more white plastic surgeries were literally rooted in racism.
All the more reason to support Tyra in this context.
@@OVI-Wan-Kenobi-8 AKA, wanting to be white, like Tyra so bluntly stated. Which is right.
@@samuraijosh1595 Thank you. One of the only critical thinkers here in the comments section.
@@devoutburrito my comment has been deleted by TH-cam. Can you tell me what I wrote.
Tyra bank didn't talk about her nose job until it was convenient in a autobiography she a smart businesswomen
Yes, you want Tyra to shut up because it is painful and transparent when we realize how society defines in a singular way what beauty is, what is mainstream acceptance! KaholFitz: what an absurd response and TELLING response! This girl was obviously bullied by her classmates and suffered self-esteem issues because she lived in a world that excluded her idea of beauty and what is pretty. Tyra did right by helping her to confront her own inferiorty complex. Sorry KaholFitz: Tyra wasn't the bully but the kids AT HER SCHOOL were the BULLIES!! Instead of attacking Tyra, stop for a moment and look at herself in the mirror!!!!
I'm an Chinese male, flat nose, normal sized eyes with double lids (depending on how well I sleep -.-). People tell me I'm handsome a lot, Caucasians, Asians and Hispanics alike. I worked out it isn't the features which make you beautiful, it is how well they match each other. Features are like clothes. Being good looking is subjective to every person who sees you, it depends on how different you look to them and what they like personally based on their experiences.
Damn Tyra ........................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................I usually have a lot of like for you but seriously though this episode....How do you know what beauty standards are in the entire world? Wow that was quite ignorant seriously...assuming people want to look 'white'? Jesus...I'm not even sure how to respond to this one..not everybody in the world has these Americanised and that's what they are Americanised perspective of beauty not Western because western countries are very accepting of other looks for the most part, I'm Nigerian and I've lived in an Asian country [thank's dad's job] but I've never wanted to feel 'white' neither do I think Chinese people in the UK are going to want to look 'white'. I just seems like she's trying to do the typical American thing of narrowing everything down to a specific point, and from an outsider perspective that's very irritating. I lost a bit of respect because of this video..
In the end if it makes her feel better about herself who gives a fuck what she does to her body
In Korea apparently it's a normal thing to get plastic surgery, parents give it to kids without a second thought as a graduation present. Just about ALL their celebrities and tv personalities have had it too, it's become common-place. Although Korean-American it's probably not much different in the local community where this lady spends her time now as an adult... that's what Tyra doesn't get.
Please dont talk like youre korean and know everything about korea lmao.
Yeah everyone in korean can afford mollion won surgery .Yeh korea is the richest country int he world ! There are MANY natural celebrities. And korean american community, is actually really different. Lmao.Ignorance.
I see some people commenting about how most 'Asians' have monolids. I definitely do not notice that where I come from, which is Malaysia, and most of the people I mix with are Malaysian-Chinese. Most of us have double eyelids, or maybe hooded double eyelids. Not many at all have monolids. If anything, something very common over here is uneven eyelids, whether it be one double and one mono, or just double lids with uneven creases. I definitely don't think it's 'trying to be white' to want to have even eyelids, to have the frustration of having to deal with different looking eyelids every morning. For those with just plain monolids, having the surgery can make them look more awake. And these surgeries don't even make eyes look 'white', they just create the classic 'Asian' double eyelids. It is true that many Asians consider white people to be better-looking, but we don't get surgery TO LOOK WHITE. Double eyelids/bigger eyes are almost UNIVERSALLY considered to be beautiful, just like white straight teeth, and nobody's condemning anybody for wanting to get braces or their teeth whitened.
tyra let her SPEAK my GOODNESS
Tyra didn't look too happy when those two guys weren't really against eyelid surgery. LOL she kept nodding her head.
i'm dyeing my hair green because i want to be a plant... TYRA LOGIC
I'm a fan of Tyra and a big fan of ANTM from Korea but I feel bad that Tyra seems to be making her own claim to that Asian woman.
In fact, Westerners and Asians have very different eye structures, so they have double eyelid surgery due to drooping eyelids. But she doesn't believe this at all! You have to have an understanding of other races.
Her plastic surgeon (dr Charles Lee) exposed Tyra nose job on tiktok so we all good 😂😂😂
Tyra should have done more research. According to this korean plastic surgeon, double eyelids tend to give a friendlier appearance. Since the first impression is important in Korean (and I think he said East Asian culture in general) a lot of parents buy eyelid surgery for their kids to improve their job chances (btw I think Monolids are beautiful but he was stating why some people prefer double eyelids).
Also at QOVES video on East Asian beauty standards they stated that Japanese women from the 1800s or earlier just prefer the appearance of double eyelids to monolids. It has nothing to do with looking white and she made herself look like a fool.
Why does Tyra always have to make everything about herself and about her being the poor victim. She always had such a victim mentallity back then it was so draining to watch. It was the same in the Naomi interview
Absolutely. She’s such a B.
you know koreans still have double eyelids (i do), and i have a pretty big one too with big eyes (I'm korean). but, only 1/10 koreans will have double eyelids (like actual big set ones). So, it isn't about trying to look white or whatever, koreans still do have them naturally, it's just some don't. btw, Africans, Indians, and Blacks all have huge eyes with deep set double eyelids. yeah, that lady was totally trying to look white -.-
Not all Asians have monolids. Most SE Asians like myself have double eyelids. Does that mean we are born trying to look white? lol
I was about to post that. And many Asians do the surgery when they're born with monolid. And monolid can be beautiful.
True. Not all asians look same. North east asians have mobolid eyes in general ( i said general. There are people with double lid eyes) and tend to have fair skin with small upper nose while south east people in general have doublelid eyes, and olive skin and flat nose ( but there are people with higher nose. Not much) .
tyra tries to look white
I watched this expecting to hear some bullshit come out of Tyra's mouth... but really, I'm fuckin shocked at how many dislikes this has and how much hate Tyra's getting.
There's undeniably a "eurocentric" ideal of beauty, and you can hear this straight from the mouths of many Asian's. Of course this doesn't mean every single Asian who seeks the double-eyelid surgery has this in mind (as there are always exceptions to generalizations), but I think it was admirable that Tyra shared her own struggle and experience growing up and I imagine her own battle with physicality has affected her perception (not entirely wrongly so, but it's probably why she over did it)
People can't think and are idiots, that's why this has so many dislikes.
Little you know about makeup, they put so much above the eye and they put eyeliner below and above the eye, this makes the eyes more defined and appears bigger (much similar to circle lenses that have an outer limbal ring that enlarges the eyes)
Plus the double fold does make the eyes bigger, it makes a peripheral area above the eye implying that it belongs to the eye and thus it makes it bigger.
"Longer" eyes, you probably refer to cat-like feline make-up, but nothing to do with asian eyes.
Lol at all the self hating Asians up in here.
Whats stupid, is that she is prettier then the average American girl for sure! Possibly an average asian, although in general they look hot.
(I'm not asian)
classic tyra lol
I think that everyone has a right to change their image if they feel it makes them happy. I don't think it has to do anything with erasing your ethnicity or anything else. I am Latina but have afro-centric features and want to get lipo and a tummy tuck because I think it would make my body look great after having had two kids. I won't be any less Latina if I do that and neither is anyone else who changes their look through any means. The fact of the matter is, Tyra was being very pushy about the subject and made that poor girl incredibly uncomfortable for no reason. While it is true that people should be happy with their natural appearance, I have never met a person who was 100% satisfied with every part of their body. Some people choose to live with it and some choose to change it and both are valid choices. My only issue with plastic surgery is the risk you take of something going wrong but other then that we know that we live in a world where beauty matters a lot even for professional careers. Everyone wants to be beautiful and beauty is viewed differently in every culture so to that girl, more power to you. To all those who choose to live out your lives naturally, power to all of you too. Instead of tearing each other down why don't we build each other up instead. Food for thought.
Asian getting eyelid surgery is not about looking caucasian. Having a droopy eyelids can hinder your vision. My uncle even beg my cousin to have an eye surgery.
If it weren't for TH-cam and Asians coming forward with this, I never would have imagined that this was going on!! As for this person, I see no improvement from the before and after photos. Yes, I do see the crease but she looked perfectly beautiful before.
Ok... When you draw your eyelines upward then, is it because you want to be an asian? And if you tann your skin, is it because you want to be an African?
In my opinion, people just want to try different things what they don't possess. And Tyra and many africans and south east asians have also double eyelids too.
I really don't think tyra right to say that when she changed herself to fit into that European standard of beauty as well, its everybody's choices and we should not shame ourselves or anyone else them.
@AnTra23: Having straight hair in the black community does not necessarily translate into wanting to be 'white' so to speak, but having straight/white girl hair is a characteristic that is predominately wanted in the black female community because of the sadly misconstrued ideal of beauty (Eurocentric). Although wanting straight hair doesn't always mean this, as a black female, there is by far a negative impression within the black community concerning 'natural black kinky hair'.
I love Tyra but she took this way too far. Usually it's not even about looking more European. Did she not consider how DIFFICULT it is to apply make up evenly to hooded eyes especially so that is can be seen? Especially if both eyes are not equivalent in their hoodedness? That's why people most often get this surgery. And yes, hooded eye do rest on or over your eye lashes which can be very uncomfortable especially when looking up in the slightest. I am disappointed in Tyra for not really giving this woman a chance to talk or fully explain herself and for not exploring exactly why this surgery is so common.
수줍네요ㅎㅎ 밑에 쓰신댓글들 보면서 속이 어찌나 시원하던지ㅠ 제가 하고 싶었던 말 전부 써주신것 같아요ㅎㅎ
Honestly just because she Asians gets eyelid surgery doesn't mean they want to look white! Many Asians has double eyelid too.
non asians just won't get it unless they already know people like that. Having a monolid does come with certain difficulties like lashes poking the eyes just like if you had bigger thighs your pants would be tighter and less comfortable. It isn't bull at all, it is obvious and only fair enough. Some old korean people like 80 and 90 get eyelid surgery cause their wrinkly heavy lids make it difficult to see. Some kids are born with monolidded eyes and develop double eyelids in their teens. Meanwhile I used to have a flat nose and it suddenly began growing in my preteens, just like a women's breasts would lol. My cousin who has natural double eyelids once lost a double eyelid on one eye due to her obesity becoming more extreme. Some asian eyelids are not as set-in-stone as other races, ya know. It really is about our race and culture and tyra mishandled an entire human race. Imagine if an asian woman tried to lecture a black woman all about kinky hair versus "good hair", how insulting it would be for black women? Just the same thing.
I think that is because mostly everyone in the world already have double eyelids so its one of those things that we ignore or treat as unimportant, but to Koreans and other Asians seems to be an important part of their physical appearance!
Tyra is rude.. she is honest and open about the surgery. The reason why, who cares? Leave her alone damn
I am telling you that "changing" the eyes in shape and size is something done daily with make-up. Why making a permanent change have to be so bad? Some girl have permanent make-up tattooed on their features.
I like the after effect, and she likes it as well. You can call me a racist for liking big eyes (or big eye effect with surgery or make up) but I don't care how you feel about it.
I also like straight or wavy hair more than really curly or kinky hair texture,will you judge me for this too?
Tyra, just because she got double eyelid surgery, DOES NOT mean she wants to look Caucasian. It does not mean that she wants to change her ethnicity. And you DONT KNOW what her real reason of getting the surgery was. So stop acting like you know why she had it done.
"So you wanted to look more caucasian." Oh my god. I just. What??
You learned about internalized racism from the Tyra show over a decade ago. Congrats to you for getting educated for free.
Sometimes people tease because their jealous of that which they tease you for. Kids do it cuz they are most honest, but don't know they hurt your feelings. As you get older and hopefully see other people and places with those who may look like or resemble you, you see that beauty comes in ALL different races and ethnicities. Im Happy to Be Nappy!
Should have kept her original eyes. Most look better with a crease but hers actually looked better prior. Practically all Koreans try to erase their ethnicity, no one's authentic anymore.
dude in korea they get double eyelid surgery im mean its natural like kpop idols get it
why do she get to be on tv about it why cant she just interview all of asia or something lol