One of the best from ThePrint. This is what i call a clear, concise, articulate and sharp interview 👌. TV channels can never match this depth of quality in a decade.
I like the way Jyoti Malhotra interrupts and tries to clarify things then and there, otherwise in the flow of the discussion, the guest would take everybody in 10 different directions without explaining the specific details, so the anchor/interviewer has to be alert and ensure that clarity on the specific points come out before moving to the next topic, and she is fantastic in extracting this information. So many people who have commented against her style of interviewing here, either don't understand journalism or sound idiots.
I thinky Jyoti has the attention span of a gold fish, thats why she fears forgetting her next question and shoves it while the other person is still answering. PS: finally jyoti ji learnt to shut up when the other person is talking and is much better than her other interviews
Several giveaways of anti nda bias in questions. For example, describing diplomatic improvement from 2005 instead of 2003, even as expert mentioned otherwise. Also, real issue not broached at all that china could be just buying time for growth rates to leave others far behind before china resumes imperialism. This means Rahul Gandhi signing secret deals with CCP is most unwise. Leaving defense preparedness in limbo on top of that. Not discussing these lapses is not only biased but also damages security interests of billions living in China's shadow
1)Absolute clarity of goals should be stated, although strategic silence on operational details is OK. 2)Rhetoric from Chinese side is nowhere near Doklam, even on social media. 3)Don't take Global Times too seriously. It's just an equivalent of Republic TV. 4)Indo-China ties have been reset completely, with this episode, so, a good opportunity to reset economic relations. China's trade surplus with India accounts for 19% of total surplus. Investment and Industry rely heavily on China. Time to reset. It'll cause Pain, but, there wouldn't be a better time. 5)Govt. should respond diplomatically, politically, strategically. 6)Deterence on the border has been lost. Must be restored. Earlier, balance of strength on the border kept the peace. Now, the balance has been broken. 7)Whatever PLA does is at the command of CPC. 15 June episode at the behest of the party. 8)Indian and Chinese interests have begun to become incompatible in their periphery. 9)China shows more aggression outside when it faces challenges from within. Its isolated in the world. Covid and economic challenges worry it. It spends more on internal security than national defence. Current aggression may be part of a broader Wolf Warrior Diplomacy. 10)India responded to the rise of China in many ways, in terms of Border infra., better relns. with Indo-Pacific countries, US. 11)India's National Interest is supreme, don't worry about NA. Strategic autonomy- ability to chose what's in your interest. Nobody would've 100% interest alignment with anyone else. 12)Economic integration of S.Asia is very imp. Rather than becoming a threat to neighbouring countries, become a security provider. Release Foreign policy from domestic politics. National interest is above party interest. 13)Idea behind 2003 agreement was to decide principles, reduce them to a framework, and then reduce it to a line on the map.
You never completed whatever started, same thing economy GST or other things,. just talk and move slowly but BJP govt moves fast. relationship with US/Russia/Japan , Autralia and Israel are all all time high, nothing in UPA time, it was status quo except the Nuclear programme with Uthat again never too0k off
All relations are high with Modi ji but we couldn't buy oil from Iran as we were buying before in Rupees. Also in NDA, we have a concept called daily changing fuel price but i didn't see the price decrease during the lockdown when the global crude plunged to 20$. Now we are seeing a daily increase in the last 15 days and the global crude is at 40$. Do you think this is fair?
He is an over rated diplomat who has in the past seriously misjudged strategic situations. His opinions are biased. He has been abusive of India’s armed forces.
Srivatsa Kumar I was wondering myself so thanks to Haseeb Khan. It is interesting how the liberals kind of project their pride and support of our Muslim community and try hard to separate themselves from any semblance of the country’s Indic identity. I find it amusing as it is quite revealing how low their self esteem is. 😐
Sue N One of my friends came to my house and gave me a gift of decorative flask full of old wine bottle corks. It looks different and classy. I have never touched alcohol in my life and follow full Islamic protocol on alcohol. But that flask is still sitting on a shelf in my living room. The reason it’s sitting there is the human who presented that gift to me and not the unintended symbolism. I would value a human over my likes/dislikes insecurities and biases.
@@HaseebKhan-yq8hsI am humbled by your openness and restrain. However a bookshelf of a journalist belonging to a public news channel in India should project a secular image. I would say that if you are in a public media space it would be advisable to avoid any religious exhibits . Would have a similar reaction to a cross or an Om being displayed too. This was just an observation on a boring afternoon.
I used to find Jyoti's interruptions, semi-informed questions/comments and the overall interviewing style to be highly irritating. I see significant improvements now. Well done Jyoti!
Menon points out that relations started deteriorating post 2012 but makes no connection that there was a changeover in presidency in China from Hu Jintao to Xi Jinping in 2013. Interesting slip.
Shivshankar Menon was of no use during a long career taking care of Indo-China affairs. His effort was to maintain the status quo somehow. No breakthrough came out during his time in border negotiation. He had good networking with the Congress and UPA governments and thats it. Same story for Nirupama Rao Menon, MK Narayanan and company. Now he is doling out advice to all as to what needs to be done!
Good interview but the gentlemen is from past generation having past hangover of redrawing India map... He needs to enjoy a good retirement life! This thinking is obsolete and for India.. We need to take Aksai Chin and Free Tibet!
28:43 The most pointed question and the crux of the whole discussion. Ultimately its the top political will that matters in settling the border disputes and not the countless agreements and talks that happens. Ultimately one political decision can reduce all these paperwork to trash. This is the. game China has mastered. The world has realised that more so the government under PM Modi. Now there is no going back on resetting the relationships. For me this is a big opportunity in crisis.
At approximately 19:32 the interviewer suggests America to be a “declining power”, Imperial Germany, Nazi Germany, Imperial Japan, the Soviet Union have all been sent into the history books mainly due to America. Never underestimate the will and resilience of the American people, many hegemonic empires have done so to their peril.
James Lum wishful thinking- China is screwed-not US. China is going back to poverty, intolerance forced prison camps, surveillance, shrinking borders and generally han-nified; Tibet, Taiwan, Mongolia is going to take over from the hans
James Lum on the contrary China was not born yesterday, China and it's civilization is ancient, brilliant and awe inspiring. China has had many collapses and failures, Kublai, Opium wars, Japan and to name a few. No country or civilization is without failure. Much as India is ancient, brilliant and awe inspiring has also had its civilizational failures in history. The United States has had an uncanny ability to re invent, rebuild and re energize time and again, has a proven track record of coming back from doom and gloom projections. Democratic processes are different amd are not as obvious in its methods, modes and construct. Never discount American capacity, mild slumber from time to time but when awake non compare.
Aryan Sharma absolutely right, India and China were super powers and have the absolute capacity, ability to reclaim that achievement. America has a proven track record, all the Empire's I mentioned were at the peak of thier power when they perused hegimonic dreams of global conquest, it was their bad luck to wake up a power in slumber, don't wake up Lady Liberty, many have tried only to havr their name in the history books as references of great empires.
Average age of Chinese and American adult is same I.e 37-39 yesrs.... Chinese are good in copying technologies and only mass manufacturing... No breakthrough innovation had come through chicoms....Chinese haven't seen any large scale war while Americans have mastered utilizing cohesive offensive all branches of forces....China lacks free thinking which has propelled human race to industrialization.... Chicoms are at best left with a decade after that they will be burdened by retirement debts.. Let's see how long CCP survived
Jayoti conducted a fair and great interview. India stop being gung-ho, especially Modi’s Trumpian behaviour to please domestic audiences. After all, India is Not America and China is Not Pakistan. Without internal unity and good relations with neighbours, India is doomed to lose against any great power. How could there be internal unity when Modi and bjp consider 200 of its Muslim population termites and corona jihadis?
Going through the comments section saw that few felt the interviewer to be very interruptive. Frankly if you let go of 1-2 instances, I felt that the interviewer was letting Mr. Menon talk at length. Frankly I don't understand what people expect from the interviewer, afterall it's a dialogue and not a monologue.
Wow sir....such a calm n collect personality with in depth understanding of the issue .....every answer was purely honest , unbiased and unprejudiced....spoke the truth.....and in certain instances diplomacy at it's best in words. Salute to u sir. And i am glad to see Jyoti malhotraji has learned from past mistakes of interjecting n interrupting....last time I also complained about that last time bt this time it's a thumbs up. Keep it up
Ms jyoti malhotra's interviews on topics of national importance with respectable and extremely knowledgeable voices is indeed a pleasure to watch. She doesn't get into a particular party politics but merits of the issue in national interest.
Thats it, everything is politics in India there is nothing sacred, nothing sacred about land nor lives, it's just the entertainment of political dialogue by the elites.
why not strengthen our border infrastructure if it displeases/dismays few people let it be. It also displeases INDIA , when PAK and CHINESE are working hand in hand to annexe J&k and Ladakh respectively for each other. keep Autonomy and make friends that's what I liked about this interview.
J&K is declared as a disputed territory by India, do you like that when India PM Nehru tried to annex J&K from India and wanted to give it to Pakistan.
@@vinamrasinghai2339 what are you telling? please check is there any difference between you think and what you have written. Your words doesn't convey your thoughts,
The show is called 'Uninterrupted' where Ms Jyoti keeps interrupting every guest she invites to the show. Ironic! 5:40 is where the ambassador got fed up of her interrupting.
Love your expert, luv your production, I am an American and look forward to space, defense, economic growth involving both our nations . India is so , scientifically , a good fit for advancement, can you imagine an India/American push to Mars? Who better than two tech savvy nations combining talents , partners not competitors...
You can't make parley with someone who doesn't want to do so. Blaming indian politicians won't help. Why are others are having problem with China ? Because of beaurocracts like you, we always ducked and projected India as a weak, confused nation with no friends in the world. Be assertive instead of being apologetic.
Wonderful Mr Menon. True, ultimately everything boils down to one thing, permanent and settled international boarders. However, no political government will ever be able to stand the domestic pressure to settle our boarder disputes with neighboring countries. Since it will essentially involve give and take. Media I think can play a role in creating an environment where society takes few bitter pills for long term health. But media ratings...!!
Where is the deterrance, UPA meekly sat and did nothing on building infrastructure so chinese were happy and did not do anything, it is like your neibhour timidly keep quiet and there is peace. this govt is frantically building broader infrastructure and China has been doing for many years and we allowed them to do, now this govt is building like china, that is the reason for peace being borken not because of the corrupt UPA strategy
Was a very boring session. Credit goes to both the host and the guest. The answers were as flat as the questions. Other than taking a slight credit for the efforts by previous governments nothing was mention worthy. For those who haven't watched this completely, my advise is to save the rest of the time in utilizing in better things :)
CHANGEZ KHAN these guys from the print always say America is a declining power some agenda and they r blind to see that Apple( alphabet google) amazon have a market cap of trillion dollar plus and a new kid on the block galloping really fast Tesla should we pay attention to these people they r deadwood like the communist
an raghav when did it decline these r the obama types dems bought by Chinese in the us who spread all this. Remember it was Obama who said that the us is no longer the top dog so look behind the curtain there is a narrative that is promoted and it’s easy buy out people nowadays just throw them a bone
The geopolitical and major security risks of India actually eventuated from its poor foreign policies, which antagonise the people of its neighbouring countries including Nepal, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, Afghanistan and others. For example, just think about the sentiment of the people of Bangladesh, the so called friendly country. What India did to its people? Border killings, blocking natural river flow at upsteam, supporting a government which is holding on to power through massively rigged elections by Indian naked support, and so on. If you recall in 2013/14 how the then foreign secretary Sujata Singh made a visit to Dhaka to influence the country's general election. Since then the flourishing democracy in Bangladesh has been sent in exile. This practice is still continuing and border killing has not stopped. To cut the long story short, if today there is a war between India and China, I think more than 80% of the people of Bangladesh will take China's side. I think similar situation will prevail in all other neighbouring countries of India.
Okay, but I cannot recall any case that is filed by Bangladesh against India. Why do you want to cross to Indian borders? You can sign a water agreement. That is democracy dude, there are parties in India who gets money from Arab countries and then left and congress who gets from China. You are completely wrong that Indians are forcing Bangladeshi whom to vote.
What this person says regarding Indian claims that more no. of Chinese soldiers got killed, that means Chinese can also accuse the same of India that it was India which was aggressive and they just retaliated.
talk to the chinese? a peace agreement for china is just a momentary pause of action to regroup and get stronger and attack again if the situation is favorable
He's clearly saying that India and China (but more India than china) should just redraw it's map. Which means India has to cede territory to China and the implications of that for PoK mean something that no leader can sell in internal politics.
That was not what he said, as he knows very well to do that is political suicide to anyone or party. What he said was both India and China were working on a 'framework' for territorial demarcation over these years.
She seems to be taking sides with China. He is clearly saying we need to do things which the government is doing. Shekhar Gupta seems more neutral and more sensible! India has to do whatever we can to reduce trade with China and become more independent
To be honest, this was one of the dumbest discussions, I have heard on the print. Expecting better from Jyoti I have given up, but making SS Menon make some subtle political statements and taking away credit from current govt., which she always tries to squeeze out from her interviewees was disappointing again. I watched this episode due the pedigree of SS Menon, but Jyoti finally did ensure I lose respect of him too.
De-escalation and peace at borders, all how would it come when the very basic is wrong. This is the time for india to bring in stability to the borders. Those blocking of indian money absorbing apps and taking a dig as expansionist was good move. And along with this mement, better india should go for further diplomatic/military moves so that to 1. make to accept china the 1950s laid control line and stop with hide-seek play at tough borders 2. It was 1950 that china laid a highway as much as parallel to the 4000kms eastern borders of india and further build finger link roads to indian borders. But india is yet to develop its border area, setup border posts/patrol posts all along the eastern borders that make an easy bite for chinese land grabs. India should move forward from its 70 years long immovable position and setup border posts/patrol posts for whole of the 4000kms eastern border line to stop land grabs. Even by 2019 chinese have grabbed stretches of arunachal pradesh, indian guarded doklam of butan and also in ladakh. Would the regime show its sensibility in working and not in PROs?? Citizens should think of this and push the establishment for this crucial necessity of the nation.
my first impression is "the Print" thinks its a super elite group of persons who know all. second you have a former NSA who talks vaguely. we have been losing land for many years everybody has been sucking their thumbs till date, only last we years this govt decided that we build our roads which will run close to LAC and provide means of frequenting place and also provide firm idea of our land. hadn't been built chinese may crossed over any depth of the land and make a new LAC afterall its line of actual control. its apparent India had to draw line. even today we should talk to China and finalise the area, include Aksai Chin in India. No soft discussions, enough of communist backstabbers.
There's no distinction between the PLA and the political leadership. Therefore when it comes to military conflict, they will definitely have an upper hand. They are a mirror image of Late General Tojo's regime during the second world war. Just look at the way they covered up the lost of their soldiers. No media and no public outcries. And what happened to our government during the Kandahar hijack. How the ministers were gheraoed at their residence and office. And then the released prisoners went on to 911 and became more notorious.
The print's hatred of present government becomes obvious in the line if questions posed, she is trying hard to get Mr Menon criticise the present government forgetting he was one of distinguished diplomats
Print journalists want to criticize modi every time because they never seen in their entire life that any PM who afraids the press or attend scripted interviews with cheat sheet, neither Indiraji, Rao sir nor Atalji, Manmohan Singh sir 😅😅😅😅
But why didn't you question him? U could have asked clearly and categorically about where was the LAC or the line when they were at the helm of the affairs. Stage managed Didn't like it at all.
Us china played this trade game us thought higher trade with china ll let them control chinas power while china thought higher exports with us paved way for thier economic leadership and china world leadership some one has to lose this game time will tell. But india shares land with china not like US which shares US $ currency and trade. India should raise alone without china but with everybody else thats the only way to counter this chinese checkers game.
@James Lum no matter the game the chinese will cut your throat and change every rule and will get to the higher hand in a game then preach about game rules ethics and boundaries which they dont seem to have any.
@James Lum yeah we have lost to you in inhumane treating not kind enough to other species we share thus earth then spreading epidemics for the past twenty years. i am proud enough to say that we dint participate in this so called competition of killing your soul and destroying planet and its habitants and i am proud enough that india shares value system that you ll never understand. Start treating your citizens better then come speak of competing in human values.
He is saying we should forget about Aksai Chin or even perhaps AP. Later Kashmir Valley and go for another partition. In simple terms, India should follow agreements that she signed.
India and China are not forthcoming with the perrenial border problems, seriously. Both countries should speak out each one's long-term give and take disputes. There should be permanent demarcation which the world can see.
I do not accept the proposal of normalization as envisaged above. I would believe that the guest may be responsible for weak kneed response of the past. We must hold our cards and assert that all the incursion of the past has to be reversed.
Sir . Agreement is when both sides adhere to agreements, . China, Pakistan are known violators, . Mistrust is the platform, of all engagements . All agreements are only very temporary . Cunningness attitude should always be engaged with skepticism and caution
Person like Mr. Menon is responsible for India's situation like this. He was in the helm of affair when affirmative step could have been taken. All sensible India must sensor anything from him. Enemy is in the gate, in stead of giving tough posture he is advocating non alignment.... So sad we call these craps as intellectual....
There is a problem with these man Mr shiv shankar menon the more I listen the more I come to believe that this man thinks nationalisn as some kind of mental illness. Thats why he was the perfect candidate for Antonio maino led UPA govt. He comes from the nehru school of foreign relations
Menon s peace is to overlook karakoram ,oversee belt road of china .control and containment can be peace. Joining Australia, japan,korea to counter china is not a peaceful understanding. Lockdown in Kashmir is not a solution or peace. All human beings should be concerned on lndia vis a vis nrc ,cab .
India should initiate a asian union to stabilise the region. Decisions like this transformed Europe. Instead of conflict, this region needs to progress. Menon is the best guy to become the head of a asian union
Yes. It's an ill conceived idea to bring in CAA which has impacted relationship with many other countries. Leader should be visionary in policy rather than looking at short term gains.
I am quite skeptical about dobal because in doklam when dobal intervene after 72 days stand off what we have gain now in doklam China has a full control
India should stop expansionist policies like AKHAND BHARAT. Expansion of HINDUTVA. India doesn't have the ability to implement such stupid and idiotic policy.
The urdu or arabic quote behind jyoti speaks a lot about her agenda. Can anyone translate what its written there. definitely sending secret signals to her real akkas
More diplomatic and less revealing, but interesting nevertheless. No mention of why this all started; Article 370 August 05, 2019. There are always consequences.
They have been doing this from 2018, article 370 has nothing to do with it. If article 370 is the reason, why are they increasing rhetoric in South China Sea or Bhutan recently.
@@MK-hl7dg I think it has a lot to do with 370 and the subsequent events. HM Amit Shah standing on the floor of house said India will take back, Aksai Chin, GB & Azad Kashmir. Tall claims against Pakistan & Nepal are ok, but not against China, there are consequences.
Well there is nothing to argue about if you have made up your mind. But China does not care about article 370 nor Pakistan, it’s irrelevant to them, similar to POK has a prime minister who installed by Pakistan which we don’t recognise and irrelevant, since we consider it disputed. Nothing is going to change that. We had a stand off in doklam which happened in 2017, so what is the provocation by india for that. Searching for a reason on why China did it and justifying their actions because we did something provocative is setting a narrative on China’s behalf.
@@MK-hl7dg Minds can & do change. China is more assertive, to that probably we can agree ! CPEC is important to China, that is being opposed by India. India signed Wuhan Spirit (of Peace & Neutrality) with China and at the same time India goes around making Quad Alliance with US to contain China in South China Sea. India has to decide where it stands, with or against China. Ladakh episode will propel India towards that.
The disengagement is a good news. Now it is time to investigate how the poor planning was done which cause lot of loss of lives. The contingency plan, medical and communication was missed.
NSAs like Shiv Shankar Menon , K Subramanyam, Ajit Dobal are the brand ambassadors of our nation.
Jai Bharat 🇮🇳
Respect Shiv Sankar Menon.
The whole world admired the banning of Apps - and many are following us
India is not the whole mate mate.
One of the best from ThePrint. This is what i call a clear, concise, articulate and sharp interview 👌. TV channels can never match this depth of quality in a decade.
I like the way Jyoti Malhotra interrupts and tries to clarify things then and there, otherwise in the flow of the discussion, the guest would take everybody in 10 different directions without explaining the specific details, so the anchor/interviewer has to be alert and ensure that clarity on the specific points come out before moving to the next topic, and she is fantastic in extracting this information. So many people who have commented against her style of interviewing here, either don't understand journalism or sound idiots.
The 2003 agreement is much bigger than 2005 agreement
I thinky Jyoti has the attention span of a gold fish, thats why she fears forgetting her next question and shoves it while the other person is still answering.
PS: finally jyoti ji learnt to shut up when the other person is talking and is much better than her other interviews
It's called getting old.
Several giveaways of anti nda bias in questions. For example, describing diplomatic improvement from 2005 instead of 2003, even as expert mentioned otherwise. Also, real issue not broached at all that china could be just buying time for growth rates to leave others far behind before china resumes imperialism. This means Rahul Gandhi signing secret deals with CCP is most unwise. Leaving defense preparedness in limbo on top of that. Not discussing these lapses is not only biased but also damages security interests of billions living in China's shadow
1)Absolute clarity of goals should be stated, although strategic silence on operational details is OK.
2)Rhetoric from Chinese side is nowhere near Doklam, even on social media.
3)Don't take Global Times too seriously. It's just an equivalent of Republic TV.
4)Indo-China ties have been reset completely, with this episode, so, a good opportunity to reset economic relations. China's trade surplus with India accounts for 19% of total surplus. Investment and Industry rely heavily on China. Time to reset. It'll cause Pain, but, there wouldn't be a better time.
5)Govt. should respond diplomatically, politically, strategically.
6)Deterence on the border has been lost. Must be restored. Earlier, balance of strength on the border kept the peace. Now, the balance has been broken.
7)Whatever PLA does is at the command of CPC. 15 June episode at the behest of the party.
8)Indian and Chinese interests have begun to become incompatible in their periphery.
9)China shows more aggression outside when it faces challenges from within. Its isolated in the world. Covid and economic challenges worry it. It spends more on internal security than national defence. Current aggression may be part of a broader Wolf Warrior Diplomacy.
10)India responded to the rise of China in many ways, in terms of Border infra., better relns. with Indo-Pacific countries, US.
11)India's National Interest is supreme, don't worry about NA. Strategic autonomy- ability to chose what's in your interest. Nobody would've 100% interest alignment with anyone else.
12)Economic integration of S.Asia is very imp. Rather than becoming a threat to neighbouring countries, become a security provider. Release Foreign policy from domestic politics. National interest is above party interest.
13)Idea behind 2003 agreement was to decide principles, reduce them to a framework, and then reduce it to a line on the map.
You never completed whatever started, same thing economy GST or other things,. just talk and move slowly but BJP govt moves fast. relationship with US/Russia/Japan , Autralia and Israel are all all time high, nothing in UPA time, it was status quo except the Nuclear programme with Uthat again never too0k off
All relations are high with Modi ji but we couldn't buy oil from Iran as we were buying before in Rupees. Also in NDA, we have a concept called daily changing fuel price but i didn't see the price decrease during the lockdown when the global crude plunged to 20$. Now we are seeing a daily increase in the last 15 days and the global crude is at 40$. Do you think this is fair?
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He is an over rated diplomat who has in the past seriously misjudged strategic situations. His opinions are biased. He has been abusive of India’s armed forces.
What does the blackboard say behind jyothi?
MashaAllah
Srivatsa Kumar I was wondering myself so thanks to Haseeb Khan. It is interesting how the liberals kind of project their pride and support of our Muslim community and try hard to separate themselves from any semblance of the country’s Indic identity. I find it amusing as it is quite revealing how low their self esteem is. 😐
Sue N One of my friends came to my house and gave me a gift of decorative flask full of old wine bottle corks. It looks different and classy. I have never touched alcohol in my life and follow full Islamic protocol on alcohol. But that flask is still sitting on a shelf in my living room. The reason it’s sitting there is the human who presented that gift to me and not the unintended symbolism. I would value a human over my likes/dislikes insecurities and biases.
@@HaseebKhan-yq8hsI am humbled by your openness and restrain. However a bookshelf of a journalist belonging to a public news channel in India should project a secular image. I would say that if you are in a public media space it would be advisable to avoid any religious exhibits . Would have a similar reaction to a cross or an Om being displayed too. This was just an observation on a boring afternoon.
Sue N Fair enough. Point taken.
I used to find Jyoti's interruptions, semi-informed questions/comments and the overall interviewing style to be highly irritating. I see significant improvements now. Well done Jyoti!
Deepak Kumar She still looks too anxious and slips into interruption towards the end.
Menon points out that relations started deteriorating post 2012 but makes no connection that there was a changeover in presidency in China from Hu Jintao to Xi Jinping in 2013. Interesting slip.
Well said
Shivshankar Menon was of no use during a long career taking care of Indo-China affairs. His effort was to maintain the status quo somehow. No breakthrough came out during his time in border negotiation. He had good networking with the Congress and UPA governments and thats it. Same story for Nirupama Rao Menon, MK Narayanan and company. Now he is doling out advice to all as to what needs to be done!
Good interview but the gentlemen is from past generation having past hangover of redrawing India map... He needs to enjoy a good retirement life! This thinking is obsolete and for India.. We need to take Aksai Chin and Free Tibet!
28:43 The most pointed question and the crux of the whole discussion. Ultimately its the top political will that matters in settling the border disputes and not the countless agreements and talks that happens. Ultimately one political decision can reduce all these paperwork to trash. This is the. game China has mastered. The world has realised that more so the government under PM Modi. Now there is no going back on resetting the relationships. For me this is a big opportunity in crisis.
At approximately 19:32 the interviewer suggests America to be a “declining power”, Imperial Germany, Nazi Germany, Imperial Japan, the Soviet Union have all been sent into the history books mainly due to America. Never underestimate the will and resilience of the American people, many hegemonic empires have done so to their peril.
James Lum wishful thinking- China is screwed-not US. China is going back to poverty, intolerance forced prison camps, surveillance, shrinking borders and generally han-nified; Tibet, Taiwan, Mongolia is going to take over from the hans
James Lum on the contrary China was not born yesterday, China and it's civilization is ancient, brilliant and awe inspiring. China has had many collapses and failures, Kublai, Opium wars, Japan and to name a few. No country or civilization is without failure. Much as India is ancient, brilliant and awe inspiring has also had its civilizational failures in history. The United States has had an uncanny ability to re invent, rebuild and re energize time and again, has a proven track record of coming back from doom and gloom projections. Democratic processes are different amd are not as obvious in its methods, modes and construct. Never discount American capacity, mild slumber from time to time but when awake non compare.
Aryan Sharma absolutely right, India and China were super powers and have the absolute capacity, ability to reclaim that achievement. America has a proven track record, all the Empire's I mentioned were at the peak of thier power when they perused hegimonic dreams of global conquest, it was their bad luck to wake up a power in slumber, don't wake up Lady Liberty, many have tried only to havr their name in the history books as references of great empires.
Average age of Chinese and American adult is same I.e 37-39 yesrs.... Chinese are good in copying technologies and only mass manufacturing... No breakthrough innovation had come through chicoms....Chinese haven't seen any large scale war while Americans have mastered utilizing cohesive offensive all branches of forces....China lacks free thinking which has propelled human race to industrialization.... Chicoms are at best left with a decade after that they will be burdened by retirement debts..
Let's see how long CCP survived
Stopped watching after reading Vinay Chavan's comment. She needs to learn basics of the conversation, leave aside interviewing.
The agenda of the interviewer for Mr Menon to criticise the handling of Chinese aggression by the Indian government failed
Jayoti conducted a fair and great interview. India stop being gung-ho, especially Modi’s Trumpian behaviour to please domestic audiences. After all, India is Not America and China is Not Pakistan. Without internal unity and good relations with neighbours, India is doomed to lose against any great power. How could there be internal unity when Modi and bjp consider 200 of its Muslim population termites and corona jihadis?
Going through the comments section saw that few felt the interviewer to be very interruptive. Frankly if you let go of 1-2 instances, I felt that the interviewer was letting Mr. Menon talk at length.
Frankly I don't understand what people expect from the interviewer, afterall it's a dialogue and not a monologue.
She has not interrupted here, but she does all the time and has an infamous reputation for irritatingly interruptive !
Such a wonderful person a true diplomat.... 🙏🏼
Excellent episode. Very informative. Great perspective. God Bless you both. Jai-Hind.
Wow sir....such a calm n collect personality with in depth understanding of the issue .....every answer was purely honest , unbiased and unprejudiced....spoke the truth.....and in certain instances diplomacy at it's best in words. Salute to u sir.
And i am glad to see Jyoti malhotraji has learned from past mistakes of interjecting n interrupting....last time I also complained about that last time bt this time it's a thumbs up.
Keep it up
Hindi-Chini Bhai-Bhai.
Xi-aur-Modi Bhaijaan.
Modiji-is-innocent.
Modiji-NEEDS-rest.
India will get thrashed by China.
Jai-Bajrang-Bali. Jai-Hind.
Ms jyoti malhotra's interviews on topics of national importance with respectable and extremely knowledgeable voices is indeed a pleasure to watch. She doesn't get into a particular party politics but merits of the issue in national interest.
Thats it, everything is politics in India there is nothing sacred, nothing sacred about land nor lives, it's just the entertainment of political dialogue by the elites.
@@neelaiyer8079 who is?
why not strengthen our border infrastructure if it displeases/dismays few people let it be.
It also displeases INDIA ,
when PAK and CHINESE are working hand in hand to annexe J&k and Ladakh respectively for each other.
keep Autonomy and make friends that's what I liked about this interview.
J&K is declared as a disputed territory by India, do you like that when India PM Nehru tried to annex J&K from India and wanted to give it to Pakistan.
@@vinamrasinghai2339 what are you telling?
please check is there any difference between you think and what you have written.
Your words doesn't convey your thoughts,
@@vinamrasinghai2339 this interview is not about nehru it is àbout checking.
Recent India's strategy about North region
You started road building in the border areas. BULLSHIT. DID NOT ALLOCATE ANY MONEY FOR THE SAME TILL 2014.
out of the box thinking...new thoughts new solutions
brilliant and balanced Mr. Mennon.
The show is called 'Uninterrupted' where Ms Jyoti keeps interrupting every guest she invites to the show. Ironic! 5:40 is where the ambassador got fed up of her interrupting.
She need to learn some good manners. I still remember those good old debates and discussions on national television🙌
Karan Thapar is worse than this.
@@npd9758 that guy is plain arrogant.
Love your expert, luv your production, I am an American and look forward to space, defense, economic growth involving both our nations . India is so , scientifically , a good fit for advancement, can you imagine an India/American push to Mars? Who better than two tech savvy nations combining talents , partners not competitors...
You can't make parley with someone who doesn't want to do so.
Blaming indian politicians won't help. Why are others are having problem with China ?
Because of beaurocracts like you, we always ducked and projected India as a weak, confused nation with no friends in the world. Be assertive instead of being apologetic.
Wonderful Mr Menon. True, ultimately everything boils down to one thing, permanent and settled international boarders. However, no political government will ever be able to stand the domestic pressure to settle our boarder disputes with neighboring countries. Since it will essentially involve give and take. Media I think can play a role in creating an environment where society takes few bitter pills for long term health. But media ratings...!!
Where is the deterrance, UPA meekly sat and did nothing on building infrastructure so chinese were happy and did not do anything, it is like your neibhour timidly keep quiet and there is peace. this govt is frantically building broader infrastructure and China has been doing for many years and we allowed them to do, now this govt is building like china, that is the reason for peace being borken not because of the corrupt UPA strategy
Why do most peole want to show books in the background. Does it make them look more informed ?
Was a very boring session. Credit goes to both the host and the guest. The answers were as flat as the questions. Other than taking a slight credit for the efforts by previous governments nothing was mention worthy.
For those who haven't watched this completely, my advise is to save the rest of the time in utilizing in better things :)
Ms. Malhotra has become more cool headed now, she don't interrupt in between of the answer. way to go! Lovely interview!
CHANGEZ KHAN these guys from the print always say America is a declining power some agenda and they r blind to see that Apple( alphabet google) amazon have a market cap of trillion dollar plus and a new kid on the block galloping really fast Tesla should we pay attention to these people they r deadwood like the communist
an raghav when did it decline these r the obama types dems bought by Chinese in the us who spread all this. Remember it was Obama who said that the us is no longer the top dog so look behind the curtain there is a narrative that is promoted and it’s easy buy out people nowadays just throw them a bone
Abrogation of Article 370 by India has instigated the geo-political imbalance
The geopolitical and major security risks of India actually eventuated from its poor foreign policies, which antagonise the people of its neighbouring countries including Nepal, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, Afghanistan and others.
For example, just think about the sentiment of the people of Bangladesh, the so called friendly country. What India did to its people? Border killings, blocking natural river flow at upsteam, supporting a government which is holding on to power through massively rigged elections by Indian naked support, and so on. If you recall in 2013/14 how the then foreign secretary Sujata Singh made a visit to Dhaka to influence the country's general election. Since then the flourishing democracy in Bangladesh has been sent in exile. This practice is still continuing and border killing has not stopped. To cut the long story short, if today there is a war between India and China, I think more than 80% of the people of Bangladesh will take China's side. I think similar situation will prevail in all other neighbouring countries of India.
Okay, but I cannot recall any case that is filed by Bangladesh against India. Why do you want to cross to Indian borders? You can sign a water agreement. That is democracy dude, there are parties in India who gets money from Arab countries and then left and congress who gets from China.
You are completely wrong that Indians are forcing Bangladeshi whom to vote.
What this person says regarding Indian claims that more no. of Chinese soldiers got killed, that means Chinese can also accuse the same of India that it was India which was aggressive and they just retaliated.
Going by previous interviews by jyoti, I have to admit this was a decent one. Relevant questions, less interruption and overall good feel
I think she also reads comments below. Jyoti way to go!! I still dislike you, but less.
Dankark like situation all Chinese troops would've suffered wisely they opt out
This guy should be Prime Minister of India.
100% Decouple wit China & prepare for a long
term conflict
talk to the chinese? a peace agreement for china is just a momentary pause of action to regroup and get stronger and attack again if the situation is favorable
He's clearly saying that India and China (but more India than china) should just redraw it's map. Which means India has to cede territory to China and the implications of that for PoK mean something that no leader can sell in internal politics.
That was not what he said, as he knows very well to do that is political suicide to anyone or party. What he said was both India and China were working on a 'framework' for territorial demarcation over these years.
She seems to be taking sides with China.
He is clearly saying we need to do things which the government is doing. Shekhar Gupta seems more neutral and more sensible!
India has to do whatever we can to reduce trade with China and become more independent
Menon said it all started in 2012 Manmohan singh was PM, so don't blame modi
The print against india... इनका मायबाप चीन है
Excellent interview with good annalises on China.
To be honest, this was one of the dumbest discussions, I have heard on the print.
Expecting better from Jyoti I have given up, but making SS Menon make some subtle political statements and taking away credit from current govt., which she always tries to squeeze out from her interviewees was disappointing again. I watched this episode due the pedigree of SS Menon, but Jyoti finally did ensure I lose respect of him too.
De-escalation and peace at borders, all how would it come when the very basic is wrong. This is the time for india to bring in stability to the borders. Those blocking of indian money absorbing apps and taking a dig as expansionist was good move. And along with this mement, better india should go for further diplomatic/military moves so that to 1. make to accept china the 1950s laid control line and stop with hide-seek play at tough borders 2. It was 1950 that china laid a highway as much as parallel to the 4000kms eastern borders of india and further build finger link roads to indian borders. But india is yet to develop its border area, setup border posts/patrol posts all along the eastern borders that make an easy bite for chinese land grabs. India should move forward from its 70 years long immovable position and setup border posts/patrol posts for whole of the 4000kms eastern border line to stop land grabs. Even by 2019 chinese have grabbed stretches of arunachal pradesh, indian guarded doklam of butan and also in ladakh. Would the regime show its sensibility in working and not in PROs?? Citizens should think of this and push the establishment for this crucial necessity of the nation.
my first impression is "the Print" thinks its a super elite group of persons who know all. second you have a former NSA who talks vaguely. we have been losing land for many years everybody has been sucking their thumbs till date, only last we years this govt decided that we build our roads which will run close to LAC and provide means of frequenting place and also provide firm idea of our land. hadn't been built chinese may crossed over any depth of the land and make a new LAC afterall its line of actual control. its apparent India had to draw line.
even today we should talk to China and finalise the area, include Aksai Chin in India. No soft discussions, enough of communist backstabbers.
China pita na bharat mata ki lay lee.ha ha
There's no distinction between the PLA and the political leadership. Therefore when it comes to military conflict, they will definitely have an upper hand. They are a mirror image of Late General Tojo's regime during the second world war. Just look at the way they covered up the lost of their soldiers. No media and no public outcries. And what happened to our government during the Kandahar hijack. How the ministers were gheraoed at their residence and office. And then the released prisoners went on to 911 and became more notorious.
Very well balanced realistic talk.. Thanks..Keep it up.
The print's hatred of present government becomes obvious in the line if questions posed, she is trying hard to get Mr Menon criticise the present government forgetting he was one of distinguished diplomats
Print journalists want to criticize modi every time because they never seen in their entire life that any PM who afraids the press or attend scripted interviews with cheat sheet, neither Indiraji, Rao sir nor Atalji, Manmohan Singh sir 😅😅😅😅
One of the best Chanel
please let your guests speak without interrupting them. No one wants to hear you talking
But why didn't you question him?
U could have asked clearly and categorically about where was the LAC or the line when they were at the helm of the affairs.
Stage managed
Didn't like it at all.
#HypocriteHinduTaliban
Us china played this trade game us thought higher trade with china ll let them control chinas power while china thought higher exports with us paved way for thier economic leadership and china world leadership some one has to lose this game time will tell. But india shares land with china not like US which shares US $ currency and trade. India should raise alone without china but with everybody else thats the only way to counter this chinese checkers game.
@James Lum no matter the game the chinese will cut your throat and change every rule and will get to the higher hand in a game then preach about game rules ethics and boundaries which they dont seem to have any.
@James Lum yeah we have lost to you in inhumane treating not kind enough to other species we share thus earth then spreading epidemics for the past twenty years. i am proud enough to say that we dint participate in this so called competition of killing your soul and destroying planet and its habitants and i am proud enough that india shares value system that you ll never understand. Start treating your citizens better then come speak of competing in human values.
when he says redraw the map of india, does he mean giving chinese indian terroritory or taking back aksai chin?
He is saying we should forget about Aksai Chin or even perhaps AP. Later Kashmir Valley and go for another partition.
In simple terms, India should follow agreements that she signed.
India and China are not forthcoming with the perrenial border problems, seriously. Both countries should speak out each one's long-term give and take disputes. There should be permanent demarcation which the world can see.
India is not ready to give J&K to Pakistan and AP to China as agreed by Nehru and also Indians oppose another partition.
I do not accept the proposal of normalization
I do not accept the proposal of normalization as envisaged above. I would believe that the guest may be responsible for weak kneed response of the past. We must hold our cards and assert that all the incursion of the past has to be reversed.
and all I can do through this interview is gawk at Mr Menon's study. I would love to have a place like that sometime
Sir
. Agreement is when both sides adhere to agreements,
. China, Pakistan are known violators,
. Mistrust is the platform, of all engagements
. All agreements are only very temporary
. Cunningness attitude should always be engaged with skepticism and caution
How they are violators? No agreements are permanent.
Person like Mr. Menon is responsible for India's situation like this. He was in the helm of affair when affirmative step could have been taken. All sensible India must sensor anything from him. Enemy is in the gate, in stead of giving tough posture he is advocating non alignment.... So sad we call these craps as intellectual....
There is a problem with these man Mr shiv shankar menon the more I listen the more I come to believe that this man thinks nationalisn as some kind of mental illness. Thats why he was the perfect candidate for Antonio maino led UPA govt. He comes from the nehru school of foreign relations
Your idea of 1993 is gone back to 1959.your book choices was good to read thanks.
A master practitioner of his Art, he is beyond comments.
Yes he crafted a disaster while in his seat, neighbors grew bold strong and did anything they wished. Great job he did!
Why cant she mention causalities from Chinese side????
Ma’am, I still think that you are really prepared for the interview.....
Menon s peace is to overlook karakoram ,oversee belt road of china .control and containment can be peace. Joining Australia, japan,korea to counter china is not a peaceful understanding.
Lockdown in Kashmir is not a solution or peace. All human beings should be concerned on lndia vis a vis nrc ,cab .
India should initiate a asian union to stabilise the region. Decisions like this transformed Europe. Instead of conflict, this region needs to progress. Menon is the best guy to become the head of a asian union
Modi can do hindu muslim and nothing more.economy .foreign policies are not his cup of tea
What about Chinese floods no one talks about them.
Insightful... Thanks thePrint & Jyothi for bringing in quality people for discussion.
It's not the quality they are aiming at....
It's the Modi baiters they are aiming to bring...
Lutyens jerks sensing revival
Yes. It's an ill conceived idea to bring in CAA which has impacted relationship with many other countries. Leader should be visionary in policy rather than looking at short term gains.
Bhaskara Rao Chukkala what is the connection with China for heavens sake
So why similar laws never impacted other countries like Islamic countries, Israel, USA etc.
"I was in Pakistan" 😂😂😂😂
Please improve the audio
Gupta ji says this platform is independent and objective. Then why this liberandu dalli is here
I am quite skeptical about dobal because in doklam when dobal intervene after 72 days stand off what we have gain now in doklam China has a full control
Okay, update wiki then :
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_China%E2%80%93India_border_standoff
Dragon wants to break Bear and elephant friendship by pushing elephant towards eagle.
Prateek Goswami I wonder why?
@@tharamantra2376 I guess time will tell
I find this interview as one of the most mature credible source
when relations with countries become part of domestic politics that's when things go haywire.
He said "Dx call Bangladeshi termites". Is that true?
Poor interviewer
India should stop expansionist policies like AKHAND BHARAT. Expansion of HINDUTVA. India doesn't have the ability to implement such stupid and idiotic policy.
No one cares
The urdu or arabic quote behind jyoti speaks a lot about her agenda. Can anyone translate what its written there. definitely sending secret signals to her real akkas
More diplomatic and less revealing, but interesting nevertheless. No mention of why this all started; Article 370 August 05, 2019. There are always consequences.
They have been doing this from 2018, article 370 has nothing to do with it.
If article 370 is the reason, why are they increasing rhetoric in South China Sea or Bhutan recently.
@@MK-hl7dg I think it has a lot to do with 370 and the subsequent events. HM Amit Shah standing on the floor of house said India will take back, Aksai Chin, GB & Azad Kashmir. Tall claims against Pakistan & Nepal are ok, but not against China, there are consequences.
Well there is nothing to argue about if you have made up your mind.
But China does not care about article 370 nor Pakistan, it’s irrelevant to them, similar to POK has a prime minister who installed by Pakistan which we don’t recognise and irrelevant, since we consider it disputed. Nothing is going to change that.
We had a stand off in doklam which happened in 2017, so what is the provocation by india for that. Searching for a reason on why China did it and justifying their actions because we did something provocative is setting a narrative on China’s behalf.
@@MK-hl7dg Minds can & do change. China is more assertive, to that probably we can agree !
CPEC is important to China, that is being opposed by India. India signed Wuhan Spirit (of Peace & Neutrality) with China and at the same time India goes around making Quad Alliance with US to contain China in South China Sea. India has to decide where it stands, with or against China. Ladakh episode will propel India towards that.
@@changamanga100 That is position of India since 1947, nothing new. Those claims have nothing to do with article 370.
as usual indian media is making us fool
He speaks a lot but says nothing 😒
The disengagement is a good news. Now it is time to investigate how the poor planning was done which cause lot of loss of lives. The contingency plan, medical and communication was missed.