@@gabrielkamenrider1205 Maybe maybe not. I suspect they are bi lingual. Despite what you hear in the movies the Nazis weren't going to win WW2. They lacked many things including fuel. They needed the Allies to keep surrendering if they were going to win.
Well here’s the thing since Germany is where the nazis happened or the hallucaust and that is in Europe I believe and since the miracle box is the CHINESE miracle box and China is in Asia so it couldn’t be from the nazis
@@aaaidkkkkkkk The Nazis were always eager to hide their atrocities b/c they were so weak. Like the Democrats that came after them they just pretended to be strong.
@@aaaidkkkkkkk BTW did you know that the Nazis sent expeditions all over the World to prove their fake history. They would not want Plagg or Tiki blabbing what they know of history. So they would zip their lips.
Yes dude I think he is. And he used Marinette and Adrien emotions and give them ladybug and chat noir miraculous and also didn't told them merging there miraculous will grant them a wish and also closed tikki and plagg mouth so they didn't told their holder. So that mean muster fu is evil on the another universe.
Anyone could wonder why Master Fu would use the Butterfly Miraculous instead of the Peacock Miraculous? That part still baffles me as to why he would do that. And it still doesn't explain why Betterfly can't force the Supreme to be de-evilized with a snap of his fingers.
People still didn't get it? Okay I'll explain. Supreme is the one who confronted Lila in the last scene of Season 5. Basically the main villain together with Lila from Season 5 onwards
@@itzz.radostin Cerise is Just one of her Fake identities Because Kids from other School know her as Cerise In College François DuPont others knew her as Lila
My thoughts on his recruiting is to target people that are rejected by the world and with a easy heart to move to swore loyalty to Supreme with no question ask
Yeah i was thinking more like magical girl site anime but not gore and like really weird/creepy 😭 but basically kids who are suffering by rejection and bullying or just overall hard things that lead them into wanting to 💀 themselves
Me personally I think the supreme is gimmi because when emo mari tried to make a wish a voice said… “only the supreme can divide reality.. reality is the supreme!” And what concept does gimmi represent..? REALITY
nah bro if that was true then the kwami's wouldn't have stuff over their mouths with a sad look on their face,it is someone that put some kind of curse on them
Ever since I watched the special, I've had a lot of questions that need answering. My main one is Who is the Supreme?? I have a few guesses: Master Fu, Master Su Han, Chloe, Lila, or maybe even Nathalie. I know Nathalie is probably not the Supreme but anything could happen in this parallel universe.
@yeetperson750 I've used that site for years its very reliable it has all the season episodes and specials and the movie to I have provided a link in my other comment.
So, which means in a parallel earth instead of Lila, becoming bad, she becomes good same thing with Bob Roth and Ms Tsurugi and Chloe and Gabriel Agreste and Felix
@@royalsofCelestia it's gotta be a character we already know like master fu or even su han,or they can pull 1/80 on us and it could end up being felix or maybe a new character entirely,I hope we find out who the supreme is someday,and if they never end up revealing who it is,it's going to drive us insane forever
Miraculous is ticking all the boxes: Branch timelines? Yes. Cyclical universe? Yes! Multiverse? YES! POTENTIAL HYPERVERSE IN THE FUTURE MAYBE? *HELL YES!*
@@mikienowhoosebad1438 One of the official Miraculous comics, specifically the second issue of the Miraculous Adventures comic series “The Trash Krakken Part 1 - Silurus”
@@Radkeyboard7984 Well The Official Miraculous Tumblr, operated by ZAG animations said they are. I would send you the link but I don’t know if that counts as spamming by TH-cam rules
But Wang Fu becomes bad, only except parallel grandmaster Su Han still becomes good because he still the guardian of the miraculous so even know if ladybug and cat noir’s parallel doubles become bad I guess sometimes they can forget the evil, and become good sometimes, because Marinette Adrian from their world, convince both of them to become good
What If Fu made a wish thinking about food and stuff like are Fu and didn't know about the price you have to pay so he like lsot something in return for food or something else that's why Tikki and Plagg can't talk and Noroo can cuz he's afraid of someone wishing and maybe he lost his mind after that idk .
I personally think that it is Lila because I don't think either of the guardians have the skill needed to gaslight/control holders of the miraculous also because we know in there universe that Aliya and Nino are still the good guys this means that some of the good characters have stayed on the good side also Lila has seen the book in the main timeline whats to say she did not see it in the alternate universe also there has to be a reason why they chose marinnet because if we use of back ground information we know she is just a baker and as such they must have been some what close and we already know its not alya and because its a alternate universe then Lila could be friends with marinet but maybe I am just crazy
Ok hear me out, what if the supreme travelled to the original universe in the s5 finale to take the butterfly miraculous from the new holder Lila or cerise and that lightning portal was what she saw in the finale scene 😮
this starts to make me think of fanfiction stories,I know fanfiction stories aren't canon,but you know what? who cares? there's billions of parallel universes that was stated,so now we can't say that fanfiction stories will never be canon for this show cause what if they actually did happen in one of the parallel universes? we'll never know
I think the supreme is master fu because when master fu was younger he had to not eat for 24 hours whilst holding the miracle box and when he use the peacock miraculous it fails and he gets so angry that he become evil and destroys the village just like last time but manage to not lose all the books or the other miraculous he gained all of the knowledge and decided he had enough of everyone and became evil by using ladybuy and cat noir wish and made him all powerful so that's why they can't talk since he also might of forbidden them to not grant anymore wishes so no one can beat him that's why he also marrinette as she was getting bullied by chloe and that made her and made her depressed which made her become evil and Adrian mother died and his dad pushes him away which made him a good target for the ladybugs and cat noir But it's just a theory
i have a very dumb theory: maybe this is a world where markov made his wish to become human hence why max is a robot. when he discovers that he miraculous have immense power he became the supreme. Use this dumb theory for whatever but its just a theory, a film theory
You're getting your facts wrong, we don't know EXACTLY what has happened in the PARALLEL Universe of Shadybug and Claw Noir, things may not be the same for that world's Master Fu as it is for the Master Fu that we're familiar with, even though their is similarities between the lives of this world's Marinette and Adrien with our world's Marinette and Adrien, but the same can't be said for that world's Master Fu and trust me, I know more about the Multiverse then anyone on youtube when it comes to TV shows like this because I watched enough Scifi, Cartoon, and Movies to know that their are differences and similarities when it comes to the Multiverse theory.
You say the supreme was a plot hole, I don't think it is. I think the creators of mlb were just leaving room both for the plot of the movie to not feel rushed, while also opening up room for and leaving us wanting for another multiverse movie
so i have 3 guesses other than master fu and su han :lila ,chloe or even gimi i mean gimi is the kwami of reality and apparently reality is the supreme what do you think
I think the supreme might be Lila because at the end of the special we se a woman seeing the universe and the only character who would do that is her and plus the supreme have every miraculous so it explain who attacked Lila in the last episode of the series
And to build topic if Lila has all the miraculous she can go to other multiverse and have created a miraculous made out of the cat and ladybug miraculous to make gimi's miraculous to control both of the kwamis or made a miraculous with all the miraculous of her universe destroyed it took on another one to have Lilas to help her between space and time and the resent Lila to be captured that has potential to be one of them is (you know which one) And boy it’s about to be crazy
who is supreme the supreme is GrabRieL and what happen After marienette he say to ALYA why LiLa he ged the miracuLe butterfLy and the smmes probLem is so vary importan what happen GrabRieL Enter the box miracuLe
*Looks at how bad they screwed up the "alternate" world, forcing me to have to rewrite it and make it canon over the trainwreck that is this series:* 😑🛠(insert emote for series)
My ever ultimate theories says that it could be the opposite of the order of the guardians who wants to use the miracal jwels for evil purpose instead of good you can identify these by the symbols of the order of the guardian and their opposite in the movie
GrabRieL he have new pLan Adrien he needeen fichtns to him becueses marienette he readin her juonal proms and why happene to nathaLie beffers he need tack to ALyA what ALYA the helpins marienette and teacher fu
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I think Fu lost the box to the Nazis during WW2. He's now a prisoner. Non Aryans like Nino Alya Max and Marinette s mother are in hiding.
Don't that because if that is true Shadybug and Clawnoil which be speaking German so I think Supreme is from an older time and wide knowledge
@@gabrielkamenrider1205 Maybe maybe not. I suspect they are bi lingual. Despite what you hear in the movies the Nazis weren't going to win WW2. They lacked many things including fuel. They needed the Allies to keep surrendering if they were going to win.
Well here’s the thing since Germany is where the nazis happened or the hallucaust and that is in Europe I believe and since the miracle box is the CHINESE miracle box and China is in Asia so it couldn’t be from the nazis
@@aaaidkkkkkkk The Nazis were always eager to hide their atrocities b/c they were so weak. Like the Democrats that came after them they just pretended to be strong.
@@aaaidkkkkkkk BTW did you know that the Nazis sent expeditions all over the World to prove their fake history. They would not want Plagg or Tiki blabbing what they know of history. So they would zip their lips.
I think that The Supreme is an evil version of Master Fu.
Yes I agree
Yes dude I think he is. And he used Marinette and Adrien emotions and give them ladybug and chat noir miraculous and also didn't told them merging there miraculous will grant them a wish and also closed tikki and plagg mouth so they didn't told their holder. So that mean muster fu is evil on the another universe.
Plausible
@@otdreamer193Marinette dad is in bakery
We see him
Anyone could wonder why Master Fu would use the Butterfly Miraculous instead of the Peacock Miraculous? That part still baffles me as to why he would do that. And it still doesn't explain why Betterfly can't force the Supreme to be de-evilized with a snap of his fingers.
People still didn't get it? Okay I'll explain.
Supreme is the one who confronted Lila in the last scene of Season 5. Basically the main villain together with Lila from Season 5 onwards
oh yeah,I forgot she existed for a second XD when I *REALLY* hate a character I do pretend that they don't exist XD
Yes! Lila and the supreme are the main villains of season 6😮
Lila isn't Even her real name
Also Cerise
@@polishalastor142she got millions of identities and I think her real name is cerise bianca
@@itzz.radostin Cerise is Just one of her Fake identities
Because Kids from other School know her as Cerise
In College François DuPont others knew her as Lila
My thoughts on his recruiting is to target people that are rejected by the world and with a easy heart to move to swore loyalty to Supreme with no question ask
Yeah i was thinking more like magical girl site anime but not gore and like really weird/creepy 😭 but basically kids who are suffering by rejection and bullying or just overall hard things that lead them into wanting to 💀 themselves
And the God who gave their powers is evil yk??
Me personally I think the supreme is gimmi because when emo mari tried to make a wish a voice said… “only the supreme can divide reality.. reality is the supreme!” And what concept does gimmi represent..? REALITY
I think the Supreme made a wish that only the Supreme can make wishes with Gimmi and that no one else can.
That is a rally good guess
@@seandunne6714yeah I think you’re right that’s a really goood theory
nah bro if that was true then the kwami's wouldn't have stuff over their mouths with a sad look on their face,it is someone that put some kind of curse on them
@@millicentgordon5427 I wonder what spell it could be lol
Ever since I watched the special, I've had a lot of questions that need answering. My main one is Who is the Supreme?? I have a few guesses: Master Fu, Master Su Han, Chloe, Lila, or maybe even Nathalie. I know Nathalie is probably not the Supreme but anything could happen in this parallel universe.
how can u even watch it? I can't find it anywhere on yt
@@yeetperson750🙄
Are you dumb shady bug clearly said the supreme was a he so obviously it would be master fu..
@yeetperson750 I've used that site for years its very reliable it has all the season episodes and specials and the movie to I have provided a link in my other comment.
Do you think that's who we saw appearing behind "Lila"?
Only the Supreme defines reality. Reality _is_ the Supreme!
So, which means in a parallel earth instead of Lila, becoming bad, she becomes good same thing with Bob Roth and Ms Tsurugi and Chloe and Gabriel Agreste and Felix
Felix is good now soo yeah..
I think that the Supreme is targeting people like shady bug and claw noir
Yep agre
I think we will meet Supreme one day
I agree
I hope so, it will answer the question every miraculous fan has: Who is the Supreme?
Yeah I agree 😊
@@royalsofCelestia it's gotta be a character we already know like master fu or even su han,or they can pull 1/80 on us and it could end up being felix or maybe a new character entirely,I hope we find out who the supreme is someday,and if they never end up revealing who it is,it's going to drive us insane forever
Miraculous is ticking all the boxes:
Branch timelines? Yes.
Cyclical universe? Yes!
Multiverse? YES!
POTENTIAL HYPERVERSE IN THE FUTURE MAYBE? *HELL YES!*
I am glad someone finally made a video on this topic
I believe that one day Lila and the supreme will work together and for the first time Lila will be the one manipulated
OMG I just LOVE your thumbnails! AHFHGHGHG
I also have a theory that Supreme could be the Chinese Mage who created the miraculouses
They never said how the miraculous were created. Where did you hear that?
@@mikienowhoosebad1438 One of the official Miraculous comics, specifically the second issue of the Miraculous Adventures comic series
“The Trash Krakken Part 1 - Silurus”
Huh, I guess it makes sense it has a comic series, considering it's had five seasons so far.
@@sailorwinxknighTronic837that is not canon as the anime and manga are 2 separate things shown in this special
@@Radkeyboard7984 Well The Official Miraculous Tumblr, operated by ZAG animations said they are. I would send you the link but I don’t know if that counts as spamming by TH-cam rules
But Wang Fu becomes bad, only except parallel grandmaster Su Han still becomes good because he still the guardian of the miraculous so even know if ladybug and cat noir’s parallel doubles become bad I guess sometimes they can forget the evil, and become good sometimes, because Marinette Adrian from their world, convince both of them to become good
THE BOX MASTER FU GAVE HAS FOR SAME EACH CONER SO THE SUPREME SIGHT WITH AN X IN THE MIDDLE
IT CUOLD BE MASTER FU HE HAS ALL THE MIRACULOUS
What If Fu made a wish thinking about food and stuff like are Fu and didn't know about the price you have to pay so he like lsot something in return for food or something else that's why Tikki and Plagg can't talk and Noroo can cuz he's afraid of someone wishing and maybe he lost his mind after that idk .
I personally think that it is Lila because I don't think either of the guardians have the skill needed to gaslight/control holders of the miraculous also because we know in there universe that Aliya and Nino are still the good guys this means that some of the good characters have stayed on the good side also Lila has seen the book in the main timeline whats to say she did not see it in the alternate universe also there has to be a reason why they chose marinnet because if we use of back ground information we know she is just a baker and as such they must have been some what close and we already know its not alya and because its a alternate universe then Lila could be friends with marinet but maybe I am just crazy
Alya
Propably Master Fu is Supreme
Ok hear me out, what if the supreme travelled to the original universe in the s5 finale to take the butterfly miraculous from the new holder Lila or cerise and that lightning portal was what she saw in the finale scene 😮
Claw Noir got Butterfly to show up using chat Blanc's technique..
Will be see the supreme come though after shadow bug and claw noir.
SO I HAVE SEEN THE SIGHT IT DOEST LOOK THE SAME BUT THE COLUR IS RED AND BLACK
Imagine if its andré bourgeois 😅
🤣🤣🤣
Lol 😂😂😂😂😂😂 fyi that makes sense tho since it’s opposite
THE BOX IS THE SAME BUT THE SUPRME HAS AN X
I think the supreme is master fu cause here he is the guardian
this starts to make me think of fanfiction stories,I know fanfiction stories aren't canon,but you know what? who cares? there's billions of parallel universes that was stated,so now we can't say that fanfiction stories will never be canon for this show cause what if they actually did happen in one of the parallel universes? we'll never know
when a kwami dies in a different universes its power goes to one in another universe
Crazy
I think the supreme is master fu because when master fu was younger he had to not eat for 24 hours whilst holding the miracle box and when he use the peacock miraculous it fails and he gets so angry that he become evil and destroys the village just like last time but manage to not lose all the books or the other miraculous he gained all of the knowledge and decided he had enough of everyone and became evil by using ladybuy and cat noir wish and made him all powerful so that's why they can't talk since he also might of forbidden them to not grant anymore wishes so no one can beat him that's why he also marrinette as she was getting bullied by chloe and that made her and made her depressed which made her become evil and Adrian mother died and his dad pushes him away which made him a good target for the ladybugs and cat noir
But it's just a theory
Yes great theory 👏 😊
i have a very dumb theory: maybe this is a world where markov made his wish to become human hence why max is a robot. when he discovers that he miraculous have immense power he became the supreme. Use this dumb theory for whatever but its just a theory, a film theory
Yes great theory 😊
I'm thinking That the Supreme Is Indeed Master Fu
I NEED A SPINOFF
You're getting your facts wrong, we don't know EXACTLY what has happened in the PARALLEL Universe of Shadybug and Claw Noir, things may not be the same for that world's Master Fu as it is for the Master Fu that we're familiar with, even though their is similarities between the lives of this world's Marinette and Adrien with our world's Marinette and Adrien, but the same can't be said for that world's Master Fu and trust me, I know more about the Multiverse then anyone on youtube when it comes to TV shows like this because I watched enough Scifi, Cartoon, and Movies to know that their are differences and similarities when it comes to the Multiverse theory.
I think the Supreme is feast that huants master fu even if he is bad and feast steals the box and commands tiki and plagg to not be able to unify
You say the supreme was a plot hole, I don't think it is. I think the creators of mlb were just leaving room both for the plot of the movie to not feel rushed, while also opening up room for and leaving us wanting for another multiverse movie
so i have 3 guesses other than master fu and su han :lila ,chloe or even gimi i mean gimi is the kwami of reality and apparently reality is the supreme
what do you think
Gimi probably got tired of ppl making wishes. Remember what gimi said when gabriel summoned gimi
I think the supreme might be Lila because at the end of the special we se a woman seeing the universe and the only character who would do that is her and plus the supreme have every miraculous so it explain who attacked Lila in the last episode of the series
And to build topic if Lila has all the miraculous she can go to other multiverse and have created a miraculous made out of the cat and ladybug miraculous to make gimi's miraculous to control both of the kwamis or made a miraculous with all the miraculous of her universe destroyed it took on another one to have Lilas to help her between space and time and the resent Lila to be captured that has potential to be one of them is (you know which one)
And boy it’s about to be crazy
who is supreme the supreme is GrabRieL and what happen After marienette he say to ALYA why LiLa he ged the miracuLe butterfLy and the smmes probLem is so vary importan what happen GrabRieL Enter the box miracuLe
Agreed
*Looks at how bad they screwed up the "alternate" world, forcing me to have to rewrite it and make it canon over the trainwreck that is this series:*
😑🛠(insert emote for series)
Dang
LOOK AT SOMETHING THE BOX MASTER FU GANE TO LADYBUG AND CAT NOIR I TJINK IS THE SAME SIGHT IN THE FIRST EPISOD SEASON 1 LOOKS THE SAME AS THE SUPREAM
6:52
Which episode is this?
Representation season 5
My ever ultimate theories says that it could be the opposite of the order of the guardians who wants to use the miracal jwels for evil purpose instead of good you can identify these by the symbols of the order of the guardian and their opposite in the movie
What if Layla is the supreme in the alternative universe?
Master Fu or Su Han is Supreme propably
No Hesperia is better! Damn you English dubs!
Ren Ren = supreme?
5:01
what if Cerise is the supreme
I just think that the butterfly could be the supreme
Like
Wait has anyone thought of who claw noir's father is cause it cannot be betterfly
GrabRieL he have new pLan Adrien he needeen fichtns to him becueses marienette he readin her juonal proms and why happene to nathaLie beffers he need tack to ALyA what ALYA the helpins marienette and teacher fu
Yeah I agree 😊
Won't if cat blanc catacysm and Will the cat blanc will catacysm will he have he catalyst
it could most likely be su han
The supreme is flex remember red moon
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it's the same video that @ruman shared recently! what is this theft?!! and it's not the first time
😤
Where has everyone even seen this already? I've been trying to find it but can't!
try Barbie Universal Brazil it should be there