Also for anyone who’s interested about sources. blackearth.com/the-relationship-between-humalite-leonardite-and-fertilizers/ en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonardite www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/09542299.2015.1118361
I use humic and fulvic acids. There's a compound that comes from the Himalayas called mumijo or shilijat, and I use that in my compost tea. I was told it assists in chelation, and I ate it up.
I never tried it myself, but I see humic acid on lots of "bio fertilizers". I wish they would only use this as a fertilizer, though. Humic acid is the new up and coming dietary supplement with some ridiculous claims.
Ashley, I was thinking this stuff was basically a scam, but I went ahead and did a little experiment. I staked out a 20x20’ spot in my yard and applied it very heavily. The first month I didn’t notice anything. I put down fertilizer about 35 days afterwards and now that spot the grass is noticeable a richer color of green and it grows almost twice as fast at the areas around it. So now I have a 20x20’ square of dark green grass that’s 2” taller then the rest of my lawn. I will send you pictures. So the only difference was that area had humic acid applied.
@@lunacycalico4017 it’s under snow ❄️ But I did talk about it in my one live stream. The results were really large tomatoes on the humic acid side. And I contribute that to the fact that I was able to retain more moisture in a really sandy soil compared to the control
Hi Ashley, I've been using humic acid (99% soluble) on my garden with amazing results. I've had things pop up out the ground that have never grown before and my lawns are now golf course standard. The depth of colour in all my plants and trees is noticable. They actually glean! My soil has gone from sand to 'forest' . I like your scientific explanation but my results speak for themselves.
@@GardeningInCanada I'm really interested in what you think about fulvic acid too. I'm new to all this and so glad I stumbled onto someone I can relate to.
@@SalVitroNY fantasy brother. You won't find repeated, peer reviewed research that shows humid improves color or turf quality. Research from a sales/marketing pitch is not "research". It's the Nitrogen that givens any visual result. You are paying for snake oil. Look how much humid is in Humid-12. You folks are paying for shipping water......
@@MrStangdawg the shoe that fits one pinched the next. I'm sure the results of chemicals vary by plants and climate and other variables. Stephen Hawking even stated our knowledge will always be limited while our ignorance is almost infinite. I've used humic acid on tons of different plants in varying climate with varied results. Sometimes it was greatly noticeable.
I found your channel by the collaboration with 'Everything Plants' and stayed for the scientific knowledge and then I liked you and your style of presentation. If you say it's bad, that's good enough for me. Most people touting themselves as experts on plants on the internet have only 'had plants before' and are repeating info from similar the internet. Some of their advice I thought was suspect, asked you about it and you confirmed my suspicions. I'll stick with your advice on these matters and thank you!
I half agree with your thoughts! If you want to geek out, watch Advancing Eco Agriculture's deep dive into humic acid/substances. It's like a 400 level course so here are my cliff notes for those who don't have the patience: Humic Substance is soft coal that's mined above the coal layer. Humic Acid is not an acid, it's actually very Alkaline 8-9; it's the fraction of humic substances that are soluble in alkali. Fulvic Acid is very Acidic 2-3; it's the fraction of humic substances that are soluble in acidic environments. Fulvic Acid can be directly taken up by roots or leaves and used as a chelation agent. Humin is the remaining insoluble fraction of humic substances which is very stable and enhances soil better than Humic or Fulvic Acid. Stable Humic Substances are NOT Fungal Food. It's the product of Fungal Decomposition. Apply with Nitrogen because Humic Substances can tie it up and cause a deficiency. This is anecdotal, however, the best amendments that I've used have humic substances (HA) as a common ingredient. My garden loooved Organic Solutions worm castings with HA (it also has compost, kelp, chitin, rock dust, biochar, & coffee grounds). I'm making my own vermicompost without HA (or most of the other fancy aka expensive ingredients lol) so I'll see how my plants respond. My garden also likes Neptune's Harvest (which has fresh fish hydrolysate + HA) but my own diy fish hydrolysate didn't seem to make a short term difference. With this revelation, I looked into purchasing Lenoardite (if you're buying HA, it's most likely rebranded from white labeled Leonardite) and happened to come across their heavy metal analysis report. The levels were within safe guidelines, however, I'm doing my best to keep that junk (arsenic, lead, cadmium, copper, zinc, etc) out of my raised beds. I mean, I've gone as far as purchasing lead free hoses and lead free brass fittings! Sadly, I think I'll just have to go the free and slow route and compost fungi. But man oh man, the Organic Solutions worm castings was pure magic! Edit: I should clarify that I'll compost fungi using wood chips, Back To Eden method.
My buddy put a garden over an area they used to pile up coal I worked his garden and this garden was amazing Everything grew well Just thought i would add that information;) Much love xoxox
@@GardeningInCanada ya I just added some cow poop not much He tilled it because the grass grew just as good It was interesting finding blue coal coming out of the veggie garden lol That coal had a dye on it proving it was from new York area ;) did some digging on that lol it was weird anyway it was also sandy Water needed every day almost
I converted a big, deep former sand play pit into a veg garden bed. I covercropped & slowly added clay. I came to life when I added hunic acid. Even with the added organic matter & clay it didn't have a significant CEC without the humic acid.
In my opinion the best way to describe humic acid is like a supercharged compost. It's what you get after millions of years of decompose plant and animal matter. It's called an acid but in reality it's more of a neutral product and if you've never used it I highly recommend it. The results can absolutely be shocking in poor soil.
@@MrStangdawg well he is describing humus soil but essentially it is what humic acid is, it feeds fungi and helps breakdown, You get humic acid from compost. Or like this lady said you can buy man made.
Omg, you all have half truths 🤣 Watch Advancing Eco Agriculture's vlog on humic substances. It's been the most interesting and informative deep dive I've come across yet! And if you don't, then for the record: Yes, it's millions of years of decomposed plant and animal matter. Humic Substance is made of humic acid (yes, not an acid, but very alkaline), fulvic acid and humin. This stuff is not fungi food. It's fungal decomposition end product. So yes, you can get these substances from wood compost (fungi grows on wood) in lower concentrations. Lastly, it works! Just know that the coal based humic substances come with heavy metals in safe amounts.
@@BonaFideWildLife Thanks for the recommendation. It popped up as a watch next feed. I'm in Arizona, zone 9b with clay soil. The natural alkalinity of our soil is 8. I have to add things to the soil to bring down the ph so plants can uptake nutrients. I plan to use humic acid to improve the soil and nutrient bioavailability. I'm very interested to see the results. I have roughly 600 square feet of garden space and I keep saying if we had to depend on what is produced in our back yard we would starve. Perhaps this will be the change needed to get the crops we'd like to have.
@@LoraCreates You're so welcome! If you need to lower your pH, you'll want to use Fulvic Acid. And I believe peat moss is also good to make soil more acidic. Good luck! I'm envious of your 600 sq.ft. since I only have 160 sq.ft.!
You monetized the channel?? (I got an ad on this video) Congrats on fast growth and thank you for the wealth of information!!!! Been waiting for channel like yours for such a long time:)
@@GardeningInCanada congrats!! I think I'm raising an addition to your intelligence group as my 10 year old is saving for a microscope too. He has been helping many neighbours in their yards collecting all them toonies lol! He's really into bugs and bacteria. I bought him a telescope for Christmas two years ago and he knows more about space then I do now 😂 his class was chosen again this year to grow space tomatoes. We got some last year too and they were amazing. I got ten jars of tomato sauce out of my yield from what my kids didn't eat. Check tomatosphere.ca Can you tell me if these are safe. Now I'm concerned because ya know labs and all lol
I’m referring to the fact that it’s considered organic & environmentally friendly but is derived from coal. Those three words do not belong in the same sentences
On the Tangent of dead Materials. It would be interesting if you watched some of the lectures Gary from Laguna Hills nursery has about potting soil. He says the current way potting soil is being made now is bad since it easily causes root rot due to all the organic material in it. He avocates using mostly minerals when making a potting soil spesificly a blend of. Peat, pumice, perlite, sand and some charcoal.
I use it in my hydroponics not sure if it makes a ton of difference. Though I think it’s slightly better than without. I’m talking about regular house plants. Though I know an influencer says it does for their plants. They call it diamond nectar from general hydroponics. I favour synthetic nutrients over organic. So how much worse sustainably is this compare to regular synthetic fertilizer. I’m not concerned whether organic or chemical.
Free soil amendments are all around us. Make your own castings, biochar, compost. Free food waste, chips, leaves, and composted manure are easy to find. Diverting these things from the landfill while amending your soil is far more gratifying than wasting money on overpriced amendments.
So, what I understood from the things I've read is that: humic acid contains a lot of carbon which will feed the microorganisms in the soil resulting in more plant-ready nutrients available. So we're feeding the microorganisms, similar to adding things like molasses etc which add sugar from which the bacteria get the carbon. Those other claims relating to soil structure etc could be related to how the MICROORGANISMS affect the soil so....anyway, this is what I think is happening.
I had to learn the hard way. The product called Black black diamond GH. God the problem I caused my self. I had bought there little organic line up with black diamond in it and I think a lot of people are misled as exactly what or how to use that specific product when I first used it I thought it was like a mycorrhizae a root booster . I think more videos need to be put out exactly what these specifically product is used for humic acid specifically period but your video is right on thank you so much
I purchased some leonardite and added four cups to 25 gallons of well water. Our well water is over 8 ph and the leonardite reduced it to 5.6 ph. Humic acid is stripped from the leonardite using alkali water which reduces the pH into an acceptable level that fruit trees thrive on because it allows them to take up nutrients which would be otherwise unavailable in a high pH environment. Peace.
Seen many people use this with great results. Would love to see a follow-up video to see if you're opinion about it has changed over time, and if you know of any effective alternatives.
I am a beginner in gardening and learning about soil science. I have been using Happy Frog potting soil with adding perlite and Cascade Minerals to it. Also, innoculating the roots or seeds with rhizophagus intraradices. I was about to buy humic acid, but now I don't know. I don't like everything being chelated out of soil randomly. Am I doing everything wrong? Don't I want increased cations. How would I do this?
I stopped watching as soon as you started getting emotional around coal and coal extraction… i knew where this was going, political green activism took over right away 😆 i can hear greta in the back of my mind “how dare you” using coal to make your lawn green…
Should have kept watching because I started talking about how it’s hypocritical to say conventional fertilizer is “bad” and humic acid from coal extracts is “good”. It has nothing to do with green activism. Im in oil country, I support Canadian oil & gas. I actually work in oil & gas/conventional farming Industry. I was standing up for conventional farmers... way to make the right look bad by not getting all the facts 🥴. Awful left of you.
I add a small pinch of humic acid to my plant water. I hear it charges the particles so the can be chelated. it also I see contains potassium. that and I use Lglycine and Lglutamic acid as a bio stimulate for calcium uptake.
I am a gardener in the PNW and I am wondering what causes magnesium deficiencies in tomatoes (and do I have it in my other plants but not seeing it)? I have growing tomatoes for several years and every I have the same issue. I have tried new soils, tomato fertilizers, adding Epsom salts, etc.. but the problem still occurs each year. This usually happens about a month after the plants start to develop fruit. It doesn't appear to slow down growth, and I have had great yields. Regular Epsom salt foliar spray's are about the only thing that slows down the discoloration. It happens both in my greenhouse and outdoors but it is more apparent in the greenhouse. Thinking about buying a charcoal or R/O filter or trying Cal-Mag. Any hints or suggestions? NOTE: humic acid was recommended as a possible fix for relevance.
@@GardeningInCanada Thank you, I recently purchased an Apera AI316 test kit and haven't opened it up yet. I guess it's time for me to test my water and see how poor it is. Makes more sense to address the issue to me.
Great video. I didn't know about how it was made... I thought I literally bought a bag of coal dust. Anecdotally it seemed to help in soilless media using salts. no discernible differences in my organic beds.
Hey Ashley. Please correct me. In my oppinion base on my hyphotesis that humic Acid can substitute dolomite lime.without increasing pH of the soil humic Acid help plant to absorb nutrient whe we give fertilizer.
Humid acids and filmic acids are also a resultant of bacterial and fungal decomposition. You can get it from natural sources such as really good fungal dominant compost. Just run some water through it and boom, humid.
My well water is very alkaline, I also live next to a massive reserve forest which includes wetland (New England wetland). What if I pick up some of that rich soil & run my well water through it? It's nit terribly concentrated, but it'd work on my garden boxes ... I think.
I do use this. Not the product you showed in your video but I do use this it does also have sea kelp in it. I like the results also I do live on very fine sandy soil with a very low cation exchange so maybe that's why. I would be glad to give you the name of the product I do use he has a youtube channel and he talks about his product that it actually stays in solution unlike other humic acids. I would love your take on what he's saying and his product.
For sandy soil it would work miracles honestly. It’s because the soil is so low in CEC you will see almost immediate results. And ultimately if the soil was just going to be blowing in the wind because you couldn’t stabilize it then I would be using an additive like this.
@@GardeningInCanada would you be interested in looking at the product I use and give me your opinion? Also have one of his youtube videos where he talks about other type of humic and basically how his is better. Again just looking for your opinion.
@@GardeningInCanada th-cam.com/video/IXBQQR9WVJI/w-d-xo.html This is one of many videos about this product. I'm more curious about your thoughts on what's said I'm pretty sure I always almost failed science class.
@@GardeningInCanada What about products that don’t state it’s “organic”? Their FAQ also says “not organic.” Is that more ethical since they aren’t lying? Or, is your ethical views more because it comes from coal or non-renewable resources? eg: Gro Power ferts and products say they aren’t organic.
Good topic. I didn't know much so I have 2 things to try... I got granulated humic acids and a bottle of fulvic acid to test it out. I honestly am not sure if I notice any difference between using the granular, the fulvic acid, castings only or my normal approach.
Yea that’s a good point between liquid and granular I’m not sure which would work the best. It’s so “new” that there really isn’t much study wise. The most I could find is this and this appears to be a literature review soils.ifas.ufl.edu/media/soilsifasufledu/sws-main-site/pdf/technical-papers/Schroeder_Amy_Immediate_Release.pdf
@@GardeningInCanada oh I will read that over later! There really isn't much aside from anecdotal experience from my understanding, but I have heard enough over the past few years to decide a little experiment is in order. Nothing appears to be detrimental but I am also not sure if anything is happening different than would otherwise lol 6 months growing icicle radishes indoors and the most noticable difference was honestly going to an "organic" addmendments (im not too strict on that) from using GH 3 part solutions.
I just bought this stuff I think fulvic acid is what I have because I realized our city has chloramine a in the water which kills all my bacteria friends. This was recommended to combat the chloramine and I also got a hose filter. It doesn’t help the fluoride but I was hoping at least the chloramines could be filtered out a bit. Ugh maybe I’ll have to boil all my water and then dump in in my water tank.
@@GardeningInCanada I don't have a fish tank but the guy at Early's recommended this pond option. It doesn't even say humid acid on the bottle. It's called SHAC Ponder. So I'm putting in my garden water container hoping it decreases chloramine and let's all the good bacteria's survive my city water. I've heard bone charcoal filters remove fluoride so I'm wondering if I could get a filter or DIY a filter for the top of my water container. Lol might be overkill but I love my microbes! Everything in my house is RO for my fermenting.
Well, even some studies on humic substances tell that the results of other studies are inconsistent. Anyway, there is one thing that I can think about, which might be promising - the effects of HS on plant growth regulation via hormone-like activity. Promoting it as a natural, organic substances is a joke, but as a bio-stimulant, it might be the interesting, if it really works that way.
💯 Right on with John Kempf from Advancing Eco Agriculture YT channel! He is The Soil Whisperer and his wisdom is gold! He doesn't just read and repeat what articles/studies say. He performs the studies with God knows how many acres of case studies! He tests and tests and gets into the nitty gritty details of chemical soil gas exchange. Edit: I should say The Soil Whisperer Authority!
What about adding humic acid to tap water? e.g. to fill 50 gallon barrel for garden. Tons of online sources/forum posts/etc and a particular well known soil biology scientist suggest you can 'remove' or inactivate chloramine from water via 1 teaspoon of humic acid to about 50 gallons of chloramine municipal water. All the research I could find online seemed to be looking at how chloramine added to water would affect the humic substances/acids there already and some people online were suggesting it will make a carcinogenic 'disinfection byproduct' that is obviously bad....Uhm......confusing.
I feel have been fooled by corporate scientists. I Just spent $40.00 on so called " Organic Humic & Fulvic Acid (Soluble Powder" ORODER Luckily i am able to return it to Amazon. Thanks to your video :)
There are organic ways to make humic acid. 1- soak dried cow dung, 5 kg in 10 liter of water, for 10 days. Mix it well and humic acid is ready. 2- 5 kg of compost, soak it in 10 liter of water and drain out water in bucket after 5 to 6 hours. The drained out water is humic acid. 3- boil 2 kg of rice put it in clay pitcher of 5 liter capcity, completely fill with water upto neck, cover its opening well with plastic sheet and air tight with rubber and burry upto neck under a shade of tree for 10 days at least. After 10 days mix it well and humic acid is ready. 4- synthetic way of making it, is with lignite and potasium hydro oxide. Both are organic compounds.
Wow! Another eye opener Ashley. I've seen videos from university students making compost and compost teas. They had a short clip on humic acids. Completely organic and simple to make, she said. She then showed herself making some. It was as simple as getting a collindar of compost and pouring water over it and the brown liquid coming out the bottom was"humic acid". So simple even a caveman could do it.
@@GardeningInCanada yea, I called BS on this the moment I heard it. Thought I'd give you a laugh. This stuff sounds so bad for environment, and still gets blessing saying organic. Money drives everything with these people! HORRIBLE!
Thank you for this video. I had recently been recommended humic acid and have been debating on whether or not I wanted to try it. I won't be making that purchase now.
Yea, it’s a common recommendation because ultimately it does work. BUT is it moral? There are a lot of awesome sources for humic material that’s aren’t sequestered l.
Organic farming can also use abit of science for it... im doing vermicompost now but was put off from doing it for some time because i thought worms were already doing the work in the soil and was dead wrong...
Very informative. Thanks! Just bought some soluble humic and fulvic acid from humalite. Not sure what to do with it now haha. A video on chelation sounds great too.
Good thing i never bought humic acid. A long time ago i went to agriculture event where school go to get free agriculture stuff. One guy was saying how it was beneficial to use in the garden and i was like i am sold. I always wanted to buy some but thanks to this video i will never buy it.
He’s not wrong it would have a lot of benefits which I mentioned in the video but would it be moral? To me the purpose of sequestering carbon would mean not digging up sequestered carbon.
I most appreciate your tackling these suspect amendments. I've never used humic acid nor have I used many other growth-enhancing amendments. I try to stay with the basics that Nature uses and with great results.
Taking it out of the ground to put it back into the ground. And it's not from coal at all, but from leonardite. Science shows it improves the uptake of water and nutrients, so a grower can use less of each input for the same result.
Regardless you are removing sequestered carbon which is similar to harvesting peat. Here is the definition of leonardite. "Leonardites are organic materials that have not reached the coal stage yet. They differ from lignite by its higher degree of oxidation in the coalification process (moor > peat > coal), a higher humic acid content and a higher number of carboxyl groups." www.humintech.com/glossary/leonardite#:~:text=Leonardites%20are%20organic%20materials%20that,higher%20number%20of%20carboxyl%20groups.
There has been so many scams in agriculture, especially when it comes to home gardeners where margins are the highest. Another soul amendment that ' I personally' would not put on anything in my own garden is 'Bio-sludge' (one name) from wastewater plant's. You get all kinds of Extra's, like drug/antibiotic residues, heavy metals, etc,etc.👎
Yeah no, humic acid is water soluble, you can make humic acid from compost. Humic acid helps form humus soil. So probably do some research bc yes humic acid can be man made but it’s a natural substance.
So humic acid isn’t natural. I’ve read at least 10 times that humic acid is produced by microbes in the way that a tree can grow out of a rock. Humic acid breaks down the rock over billions of years to make soil. Please tell us more. I’m very interested. Trying to farm as close to notill as I can. And yes to chelation. Been reading a lot about chelated micro nutrients
Its natural its just the the store bought stuff isnt an exact match to the real stuff found in nature because we arent sure how the nature version is produced
Brilliant! TH-cam has been pushing humic acid videos at me and I'd never heard of it before (UK). Was rather surprised when I searched and found it was made from a mined coal-like substance (they used a different name of course). Also saw some videos with Elaine Ingram who says to make humic acid from compost. 🤷♀️ That seems rather different to what you and the products labelled "humic acid" are talking about. Do you understand how it relates to this?
I think her method would mean more natural forms of Humic and fluvic acid not the manufactured option. The issue is that the term humic acid doesn’t have an actual definition.
Hey just wondering if you actually have a degree? Because I read a book from a very respected NZ soil scientist, Nicole Masters, she also has a consultancy business that operates in NZ, AU and the US. She uses liquid humates all the time and she practices regen agriculture with excellent results not just for her but for a bunch of farmers and ranchers. According to her it comes from compost brews and other kind of brews. All natural from organic matter.
Yes I have an actual degree. People are allowed to have different conclusions based their field of study. A regen agriculture soil scientist isn’t going to see things the same as someone involved in conventional agriculture. th-cam.com/video/7KMFinCcDq0/w-d-xo.html
It would be nice to list the peer reviewed studies that show applications of humic acid are worthless. I am not a soil scientist but I used both liquid and granular humic products on a crappy lawn. What I found is my lawn dominated the block with green grass well into late December It’s very frustrating finding definitive peer reviewed information and I honestly do not want to disrespect your credentials but what I do not like is people acting like soil chemistry is completely understood. Micronutrients for example are poorly understood in my opinion Furthermore I feel even in its base form adding carbon via humic acid to an organic soil process is a benefit So as long as I’m seeing positive results I plan to continue using it and I would ask you as a scientist rather than stand behind others work that you actually evaluate the application in a controlled way and discuss your results Remember there was a time when science supported the sun revolving around the earth
This is an older video but I am relatively certain i said it works and made a second video explaining how and why it works. My issue is with the "ethics" if we are condemning the use of hydro carbons to sustain human life. Then an leoderonite sources humic acid should be categorized correctly.
@@GardeningInCanada I appreciate your reply. Thank you. So much is muddy waters. It’s hard ti find source material that isn’t driven by ulterior motives I’ll try to check out your other material. Have a great new year and kick butt
Funny I just mixed up some himic acid and put it in my garden as an experiment to see. I then found your video. Lol I guess Ill wait and see what, if anything happens.
Firtst, you are a cool chick. Second, if i understand correctly, maybe its just the same to use biochar (and for free... ?) I mean its made from coal... or maybe just use the humus of worms, or compost whatever
Thanks for such a positive response! I am confident that level of positivity is going to help your channel enormously. What in particular are you concerned I don't know or am confused about? I am always open to insight and learning.
Hi Ashley. My question is does this product lock up the chloramine that is added into city tap waters. Is this bro or factual science? I must confess that marketing is very compelling to the inexperienced... and that is why I trust my soil scientist, Ashley. Sure, you bust a few dreams of Eden that I wish for in products but every bit of advice you offer us is unbiased and tested. thanks.
You are incorrect in many ways. Humid acid is naturally occurring. The acid is present in Humas It makes up about 2 percent of soil mass and occurres from decomposition
U aint kidding...bout to get in a fight in comments over this video 💪 🤣...just try it(if it's give to ya) and realize how much less nutrients you'll have to use...try it on a compost pile. Bet you'll notice things you've never seen before
Thanks not derived in nature can be derived in a lab says it all. It's for sale nothing more. What does it provide that compost, soil management, soil microbe management, and other minerals provide? Chileation-Mew....
It is derived from nature. She was just wrong and realized it. You can tell from her responses to other comments. Humic acid is in every healthy soil. Adding more might not be necessary, though. Depends on your soil quality.
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Thanks for watching! I know this video is going to upset some people 😅. Do you use it?
Also for anyone who’s interested about sources.
blackearth.com/the-relationship-between-humalite-leonardite-and-fertilizers/
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonardite
www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/09542299.2015.1118361
I use humic and fulvic acids. There's a compound that comes from the Himalayas called mumijo or shilijat, and I use that in my compost tea.
I was told it assists in chelation, and I ate it up.
I never tried it myself, but I see humic acid on lots of "bio fertilizers". I wish they would only use this as a fertilizer, though. Humic acid is the new up and coming dietary supplement with some ridiculous claims.
HAHAH k when I was researching it I saw all the pills you can get... that’s just ridiculous
Oh I’ll have too look into that. Never heard of those compounds.
Ashley, I was thinking this stuff was basically a scam, but I went ahead and did a little experiment. I staked out a 20x20’ spot in my yard and applied it very heavily. The first month I didn’t notice anything. I put down fertilizer about 35 days afterwards and now that spot the grass is noticeable a richer color of green and it grows almost twice as fast at the areas around it. So now I have a 20x20’ square of dark green grass that’s 2” taller then the rest of my lawn. I will send you pictures. So the only difference was that area had humic acid applied.
That’s awesome! I have a mini experiment going on with it as well!
@@GardeningInCanada how is it now? Would you share it with us please?
@@lunacycalico4017 it’s under snow ❄️ But I did talk about it in my one live stream. The results were really large tomatoes on the humic acid side. And I contribute that to the fact that I was able to retain more moisture in a really sandy soil compared to the control
Humic acid is my #1 go to for relieving compaction in my yard. I also use it around my plants and bushes. The results are undeniable.
Hi Ashley, I've been using humic acid (99% soluble) on my garden with amazing results. I've had things pop up out the ground that have never grown before and my lawns are now golf course standard. The depth of colour in all my plants and trees is noticable. They actually glean! My soil has gone from sand to 'forest' . I like your scientific explanation but my results speak for themselves.
That’s awesome
@@GardeningInCanada I'm really interested in what you think about fulvic acid too. I'm new to all this and so glad I stumbled onto someone I can relate to.
@@SalVitroNY fantasy brother. You won't find repeated, peer reviewed research that shows humid improves color or turf quality. Research from a sales/marketing pitch is not "research". It's the Nitrogen that givens any visual result. You are paying for snake oil. Look how much humid is in Humid-12. You folks are paying for shipping water......
@@SalVitroNY Placebo. The only visual result you'll see is from the N in the bottle. Complete waste of money.
@@MrStangdawg the shoe that fits one pinched the next.
I'm sure the results of chemicals vary by plants and climate and other variables. Stephen Hawking even stated our knowledge will always be limited while our ignorance is almost infinite.
I've used humic acid on tons of different plants in varying climate with varied results. Sometimes it was greatly noticeable.
I found your channel by the collaboration with 'Everything Plants' and stayed for the scientific knowledge and then I liked you and your style of presentation. If you say it's bad, that's good enough for me. Most people touting themselves as experts on plants on the internet have only 'had plants before' and are repeating info from similar the internet. Some of their advice I thought was suspect, asked you about it and you confirmed my suspicions. I'll stick with your advice on these matters and thank you!
Haha thanks so much ❤️ glad you enjoy
I half agree with your thoughts! If you want to geek out, watch Advancing Eco Agriculture's deep dive into humic acid/substances. It's like a 400 level course so here are my cliff notes for those who don't have the patience:
Humic Substance is soft coal that's mined above the coal layer.
Humic Acid is not an acid, it's actually very Alkaline 8-9; it's the fraction of humic substances that are soluble in alkali.
Fulvic Acid is very Acidic 2-3; it's the fraction of humic substances that are soluble in acidic environments.
Fulvic Acid can be directly taken up by roots or leaves and used as a chelation agent.
Humin is the remaining insoluble fraction of humic substances which is very stable and enhances soil better than Humic or Fulvic Acid.
Stable Humic Substances are NOT Fungal Food. It's the product of Fungal Decomposition.
Apply with Nitrogen because Humic Substances can tie it up and cause a deficiency.
This is anecdotal, however, the best amendments that I've used have humic substances (HA) as a common ingredient. My garden loooved Organic Solutions worm castings with HA (it also has compost, kelp, chitin, rock dust, biochar, & coffee grounds). I'm making my own vermicompost without HA (or most of the other fancy aka expensive ingredients lol) so I'll see how my plants respond. My garden also likes Neptune's Harvest (which has fresh fish hydrolysate + HA) but my own diy fish hydrolysate didn't seem to make a short term difference.
With this revelation, I looked into purchasing Lenoardite (if you're buying HA, it's most likely rebranded from white labeled Leonardite) and happened to come across their heavy metal analysis report. The levels were within safe guidelines, however, I'm doing my best to keep that junk (arsenic, lead, cadmium, copper, zinc, etc) out of my raised beds. I mean, I've gone as far as purchasing lead free hoses and lead free brass fittings! Sadly, I think I'll just have to go the free and slow route and compost fungi. But man oh man, the Organic Solutions worm castings was pure magic!
Edit: I should clarify that I'll compost fungi using wood chips, Back To Eden method.
My buddy put a garden over an area they used to pile up coal
I worked his garden and this garden was amazing
Everything grew well
Just thought i would add that information;)
Much love xoxox
It would hahah that’s a lot of carbon
@@GardeningInCanada ya I just added some cow poop not much
He tilled it because the grass grew just as good
It was interesting finding blue coal coming out of the veggie garden lol
That coal had a dye on it proving it was from new York area ;) did some digging on that lol it was weird anyway it was also sandy
Water needed every day almost
I converted a big, deep former sand play pit into a veg garden bed. I covercropped & slowly added clay. I came to life when I added hunic acid. Even with the added organic matter & clay it didn't have a significant CEC without the humic acid.
In my opinion the best way to describe humic acid is like a supercharged compost. It's what you get after millions of years of decompose plant and animal matter. It's called an acid but in reality it's more of a neutral product and if you've never used it I highly recommend it. The results can absolutely be shocking in poor soil.
Yea that’s a great way of explaining it
@@MrStangdawg well he is describing humus soil but essentially it is what humic acid is, it feeds fungi and helps breakdown, You get humic acid from compost. Or like this lady said you can buy man made.
Omg, you all have half truths 🤣 Watch Advancing Eco Agriculture's vlog on humic substances. It's been the most interesting and informative deep dive I've come across yet! And if you don't, then for the record: Yes, it's millions of years of decomposed plant and animal matter. Humic Substance is made of humic acid (yes, not an acid, but very alkaline), fulvic acid and humin. This stuff is not fungi food. It's fungal decomposition end product. So yes, you can get these substances from wood compost (fungi grows on wood) in lower concentrations. Lastly, it works! Just know that the coal based humic substances come with heavy metals in safe amounts.
@@BonaFideWildLife Thanks for the recommendation. It popped up as a watch next feed. I'm in Arizona, zone 9b with clay soil. The natural alkalinity of our soil is 8. I have to add things to the soil to bring down the ph so plants can uptake nutrients. I plan to use humic acid to improve the soil and nutrient bioavailability. I'm very interested to see the results. I have roughly 600 square feet of garden space and I keep saying if we had to depend on what is produced in our back yard we would starve. Perhaps this will be the change needed to get the crops we'd like to have.
@@LoraCreates You're so welcome! If you need to lower your pH, you'll want to use Fulvic Acid. And I believe peat moss is also good to make soil more acidic. Good luck! I'm envious of your 600 sq.ft. since I only have 160 sq.ft.!
You monetized the channel?? (I got an ad on this video) Congrats on fast growth and thank you for the wealth of information!!!! Been waiting for channel like yours for such a long time:)
Yea! It’s working out lovely it’s going to help me buy a microscope 🔬
@@GardeningInCanada congrats!! I think I'm raising an addition to your intelligence group as my 10 year old is saving for a microscope too. He has been helping many neighbours in their yards collecting all them toonies lol! He's really into bugs and bacteria. I bought him a telescope for Christmas two years ago and he knows more about space then I do now 😂 his class was chosen again this year to grow space tomatoes. We got some last year too and they were amazing. I got ten jars of tomato sauce out of my yield from what my kids didn't eat. Check tomatosphere.ca
Can you tell me if these are safe. Now I'm concerned because ya know labs and all lol
So you say it’s a joke and then at the end you say it works in certain types of soil. That’s great.
I’m referring to the fact that it’s considered organic & environmentally friendly but is derived from coal. Those three words do not belong in the same sentences
@@GardeningInCanada It is organic. Maybe organic doesn't mean what you think it does.
On the Tangent of dead Materials. It would be interesting if you watched some of the lectures Gary from Laguna Hills nursery has about potting soil. He says the current way potting soil is being made now is bad since it easily causes root rot due to all the organic material in it.
He avocates using mostly minerals when making a potting soil spesificly a blend of. Peat, pumice, perlite, sand and some charcoal.
An often used source is kelp, which is minimally treated before being sold. Kelp meal or kelp concentrate liquid contains humid acids.
I use it in my hydroponics not sure if it makes a ton of difference. Though I think it’s slightly better than without. I’m talking about regular house plants. Though I know an influencer says it does for their plants. They call it diamond nectar from general hydroponics. I favour synthetic nutrients over organic. So how much worse sustainably is this compare to regular synthetic fertilizer. I’m not concerned whether organic or chemical.
Free soil amendments are all around us. Make your own castings, biochar, compost. Free food waste, chips, leaves, and composted manure are easy to find. Diverting these things from the landfill while amending your soil is far more gratifying than wasting money on overpriced amendments.
its very true
So, what I understood from the things I've read is that: humic acid contains a lot of carbon which will feed the microorganisms in the soil resulting in more plant-ready nutrients available. So we're feeding the microorganisms, similar to adding things like molasses etc which add sugar from which the bacteria get the carbon.
Those other claims relating to soil structure etc could be related to how the MICROORGANISMS affect the soil so....anyway, this is what I think is happening.
I had to learn the hard way. The product called Black black diamond GH. God the problem I caused my self. I had bought there little organic line up with black diamond in it and I think a lot of people are misled as exactly what or how to use that specific product when I first used it I thought it was like a mycorrhizae a root booster . I think more videos need to be put out exactly what these specifically product is used for humic acid specifically period but your video is right on thank you so much
Thanks so the feedback and encouragement
I purchased some leonardite and added four cups to 25 gallons of well water. Our well water is over 8 ph and the leonardite reduced it to 5.6 ph. Humic acid is stripped from the leonardite using alkali water which reduces the pH into an acceptable level that fruit trees thrive on because it allows them to take up nutrients which would be otherwise unavailable in a high pH environment. Peace.
This is all way above my head, all I know is I put food in and what comes back out is gold, like in the Amazing Stories episode "Thanksgiving"
Haha 😆
Seen many people use this with great results. Would love to see a follow-up video to see if you're opinion about it has changed over time, and if you know of any effective alternatives.
I am a beginner in gardening and learning about soil science. I have been using Happy Frog potting soil with adding perlite and Cascade Minerals to it. Also, innoculating the roots or seeds with rhizophagus intraradices. I was about to buy humic acid, but now I don't know. I don't like everything being chelated out of soil randomly. Am I doing everything wrong? Don't I want increased cations. How would I do this?
Sounds like you are doing good job! Increased cation exchange is good but it’s about balance too high and it can be negative
Wow ini baru membuka wawasan, terimakasih pencerahannya saudari.
I stopped watching as soon as you started getting emotional around coal and coal extraction… i knew where this was going, political green activism took over right away 😆 i can hear greta in the back of my mind “how dare you” using coal to make your lawn green…
Should have kept watching because I started talking about how it’s hypocritical to say conventional fertilizer is “bad” and humic acid from coal extracts is “good”. It has nothing to do with green activism. Im in oil country, I support Canadian oil & gas. I actually work in oil & gas/conventional farming Industry.
I was standing up for conventional farmers... way to make the right look bad by not getting all the facts 🥴. Awful left of you.
U need patience brother
I add a small pinch of humic acid to my plant water. I hear it charges the particles so the can be chelated. it also I see contains potassium. that and I use Lglycine and Lglutamic acid as a bio stimulate for calcium uptake.
I am a gardener in the PNW and I am wondering what causes magnesium deficiencies in tomatoes (and do I have it in my other plants but not seeing it)? I have growing tomatoes for several years and every I have the same issue. I have tried new soils, tomato fertilizers, adding Epsom salts, etc.. but the problem still occurs each year. This usually happens about a month after the plants start to develop fruit. It doesn't appear to slow down growth, and I have had great yields. Regular Epsom salt foliar spray's are about the only thing that slows down the discoloration. It happens both in my greenhouse and outdoors but it is more apparent in the greenhouse. Thinking about buying a charcoal or R/O filter or trying Cal-Mag. Any hints or suggestions? NOTE: humic acid was recommended as a possible fix for relevance.
Have you tested your soil pH ? That is most likely the issue. Which is why humic acid would be recommended to you.
@@GardeningInCanada Thank you, I recently purchased an Apera AI316 test kit and haven't opened it up yet. I guess it's time for me to test my water and see how poor it is. Makes more sense to address the issue to me.
Yea I’d check that out and work from there honestly magnesium and calcium are rarely low in soil it’s generally a pH issue
Great video. I didn't know about how it was made... I thought I literally bought a bag of coal dust. Anecdotally it seemed to help in soilless media using salts. no discernible differences in my organic beds.
It would work great there or in sandy soil.
I thought Humic Acid can be found in the humus in worm casting?
Nice work. Thanks for the info and effort. I have to fold this into all of the info I've absorbed... Nice presentation. Cheers!
Hey Ashley. Please correct me.
In my oppinion base on my hyphotesis that humic Acid can substitute dolomite lime.without increasing pH of the soil humic Acid help plant to absorb nutrient whe we give fertilizer.
Yes they are relatively interchangeable with some minor differences
@@GardeningInCanada thanks for your explanation.
Anytime ❤️
Humid acids and filmic acids are also a resultant of bacterial and fungal decomposition. You can get it from natural sources such as really good fungal dominant compost. Just run some water through it and boom, humid.
My well water is very alkaline, I also live next to a massive reserve forest which includes wetland (New England wetland). What if I pick up some of that rich soil & run my well water through it? It's nit terribly concentrated, but it'd work on my garden boxes ... I think.
I saw a video of you using this for your soil for cannabis. Did things change?
No... I dont love it
yes! A video on chelation! Humans use it to remove toxic metals from their bodies (in theory) would it function similarly in the plants?
It’s highly likely. I mean if it has an affinity for ions it’s going to pick them up
I wanna know how humalite ore is turned into humic acid.
what about the virginia tech study about kelp+humic acid?
I do use this. Not the product you showed in your video but I do use this it does also have sea kelp in it. I like the results also I do live on very fine sandy soil with a very low cation exchange so maybe that's why. I would be glad to give you the name of the product I do use he has a youtube channel and he talks about his product that it actually stays in solution unlike other humic acids. I would love your take on what he's saying and his product.
I use this on my lawn only.
For sandy soil it would work miracles honestly. It’s because the soil is so low in CEC you will see almost immediate results. And ultimately if the soil was just going to be blowing in the wind because you couldn’t stabilize it then I would be using an additive like this.
@@GardeningInCanada would you be interested in looking at the product I use and give me your opinion? Also have one of his youtube videos where he talks about other type of humic and basically how his is better. Again just looking for your opinion.
@@justinl2926 yea absolutely send me the link
@@GardeningInCanada th-cam.com/video/IXBQQR9WVJI/w-d-xo.html
This is one of many videos about this product. I'm more curious about your thoughts on what's said I'm pretty sure I always almost failed science class.
What does it mean when it says “derived from leonardite”?
Coal byproduct
@@GardeningInCanada What about products that don’t state it’s “organic”? Their FAQ also says “not organic.”
Is that more ethical since they aren’t lying? Or, is your ethical views more because it comes from coal or non-renewable resources?
eg: Gro Power ferts and products say they aren’t organic.
I got an ad for humic acid while watching this video haha.
HAHA have to love Adsense
Good topic. I didn't know much so I have 2 things to try... I got granulated humic acids and a bottle of fulvic acid to test it out. I honestly am not sure if I notice any difference between using the granular, the fulvic acid, castings only or my normal approach.
Yea that’s a good point between liquid and granular I’m not sure which would work the best. It’s so “new” that there really isn’t much study wise. The most I could find is this and this appears to be a literature review soils.ifas.ufl.edu/media/soilsifasufledu/sws-main-site/pdf/technical-papers/Schroeder_Amy_Immediate_Release.pdf
@@GardeningInCanada oh I will read that over later! There really isn't much aside from anecdotal experience from my understanding, but I have heard enough over the past few years to decide a little experiment is in order. Nothing appears to be detrimental but I am also not sure if anything is happening different than would otherwise lol 6 months growing icicle radishes indoors and the most noticable difference was honestly going to an "organic" addmendments (im not too strict on that) from using GH 3 part solutions.
I honestly think it works. There isn’t a reason why it wouldn’t yield impressive results
@@GardeningInCanada True, but upon learning more about it I think I can forgo them in the future
Yea that’s fair. I’m a simpleton
I just bought this stuff I think fulvic acid is what I have because I realized our city has chloramine a in the water which kills all my bacteria friends. This was recommended to combat the chloramine and I also got a hose filter. It doesn’t help the fluoride but I was hoping at least the chloramines could be filtered out a bit. Ugh maybe I’ll have to boil all my water and then dump in in my water tank.
I’ve heard about this chloramine/fluvic thing like ten times this week 😂. What are you using for your fish tank water? Prime?
@@GardeningInCanada I don't have a fish tank but the guy at Early's recommended this pond option. It doesn't even say humid acid on the bottle. It's called SHAC Ponder. So I'm putting in my garden water container hoping it decreases chloramine and let's all the good bacteria's survive my city water. I've heard bone charcoal filters remove fluoride so I'm wondering if I could get a filter or DIY a filter for the top of my water container. Lol might be overkill but I love my microbes! Everything in my house is RO for my fermenting.
Ohhh! Okay I got what your saying
Well, even some studies on humic substances tell that the results of other studies are inconsistent. Anyway, there is one thing that I can think about, which might be promising - the effects of HS on plant growth regulation via hormone-like activity. Promoting it as a natural, organic substances is a joke, but as a bio-stimulant, it might be the interesting, if it really works that way.
Is natural lignite a good carbon source for soil improvement ?
No man, it's made in a lab and is not found in nature. Duh 🤓 😂
You should listen to John kempf talk about it. It will better your understanding. Most of the products are bad but not all.
💯 Right on with John Kempf from Advancing Eco Agriculture YT channel! He is The Soil Whisperer and his wisdom is gold! He doesn't just read and repeat what articles/studies say. He performs the studies with God knows how many acres of case studies! He tests and tests and gets into the nitty gritty details of chemical soil gas exchange.
Edit: I should say The Soil Whisperer Authority!
Oh my. I wish I saw this video before I bought and used humic acid on my plants 😢 oh well. I hope at least something good will happen to my plants.
Haha that’s awesome
Dr. Elaine Ingham said we can make humic acid with our compost?
I belive what she was referring to is acetic acid.
YES! Please do a video on chelation!
Good to know!
I thought this stuff was in compost!? Thanks for the information
It’s in compost as in bound within solution. You have to use a solution to remove it
@@GardeningInCanada I see I've heard of it but had no idea thanks
I have never heard of this before, but thanks for another informative video!
Glad you enjoyed!
What is opinion on using seaweed?
how can we makes humik acid at home?
This was useful, thanks!
Wait in your latest video you said you're adding ethically derived humic acid - is this good or bad?
Great question. Good when ethical. I think it’s also a much more complex process then we have labelled it.
@@GardeningInCanada thank youuuuuuu
Fantastic content. Never heard of this before.
Glad you enjoyed! And it’s relatively new but I can see if blowing up here in the next few yesrs
What about adding humic acid to tap water? e.g. to fill 50 gallon barrel for garden.
Tons of online sources/forum posts/etc and a particular well known soil biology scientist suggest you can 'remove' or inactivate chloramine from water via 1 teaspoon of humic acid to about 50 gallons of chloramine municipal water.
All the research I could find online seemed to be looking at how chloramine added to water would affect the humic substances/acids there already and some people online were suggesting it will make a carcinogenic 'disinfection byproduct' that is obviously bad....Uhm......confusing.
Will humic acid keep slugs away from seedlings?
No I don’t believe it would
@@GardeningInCanada okay thank you
Anytime!
I've been adding amino acids with my humic acid !!!
Nice!
Never used it. I stick to basic stuff like sheep manure, compost, Gaia brand fertilizers, worm castings, Seaboost.
Yea! I like all those also that Gaia brand is amazing
I feel have been fooled by corporate scientists. I Just spent $40.00 on so called " Organic Humic & Fulvic Acid (Soluble Powder" ORODER
Luckily i am able to return it to Amazon.
Thanks to your video :)
Soluble powder interesting. It must be titrated acid that’s been dried out
@@GardeningInCanada tiny bit made 2L of water looks like black Ink. And its not that soluble, I Think it's Super fine particules in suspension.
Ohhh okay that makes sense
That's probably Leonardite
There are organic ways to make humic acid.
1- soak dried cow dung, 5 kg in 10 liter of water, for 10 days. Mix it well and humic acid is ready.
2- 5 kg of compost, soak it in 10 liter of water and drain out water in bucket after 5 to 6 hours. The drained out water is humic acid.
3- boil 2 kg of rice put it in clay pitcher of 5 liter capcity, completely fill with water upto neck, cover its opening well with plastic sheet and air tight with rubber and burry upto neck under a shade of tree for 10 days at least. After 10 days mix it well and humic acid is ready.
4- synthetic way of making it, is with lignite and potasium hydro oxide. Both are organic compounds.
That’s not true humic acid that’s simply just fermenting organic material in water.
And lignite is coal en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lignite
@@GardeningInCanada is humic acid not a long chained alcohol, ultimately?
@@GardeningInCanada is coal not pure form of carbon?
They think it is. But again they haven’t been able to definitively say yes
Can you please discuss Fulvates or Fulvic Acid
Wow! Another eye opener Ashley.
I've seen videos from university students making compost and compost teas. They had a short clip on humic acids. Completely organic and simple to make, she said. She then showed herself making some. It was as simple as getting a collindar of compost and pouring water over it and the brown liquid coming out the bottom was"humic acid". So simple even a caveman could do it.
Oh that’s not humic acid lol... that’s mostly tannins. You can’t just squish it out of the soil it’s not water soluble.
@@GardeningInCanada yea, I called BS on this the moment I heard it. Thought I'd give you a laugh.
This stuff sounds so bad for environment, and still gets blessing saying organic. Money drives everything with these people!
HORRIBLE!
Thank you for this video. I had recently been recommended humic acid and have been debating on whether or not I wanted to try it. I won't be making that purchase now.
Yea, it’s a common recommendation because ultimately it does work. BUT is it moral? There are a lot of awesome sources for humic material that’s aren’t sequestered l.
Use of potasium humate is allowed in Organic farming.
Pretty much all form all forms of humane are allowed I have t seen a version that isn’t
Organic farming can also use abit of science for it... im doing vermicompost now but was put off from doing it for some time because i thought worms were already doing the work in the soil and was dead wrong...
Haha that’s awesome
Thanks..really helpful
Glad it was helpful!
Thank you, thank you, thank you!!!
Good to know , thanks.
Very informative. Thanks! Just bought some soluble humic and fulvic acid from humalite. Not sure what to do with it now haha.
A video on chelation sounds great too.
You can still use it! Honestly you might see some good results.
How'd it work out for you? I'm here after buying a jug myself.
@@CyberSERT didn't notice any negative effects. All seemed good.
@@RudyWarman I appreciate the reply. Thanks, and have a good one.
I am more confused after watching this.
Good thing i never bought humic acid. A long time ago i went to agriculture event where school go to get free agriculture stuff. One guy was saying how it was beneficial to use in the garden and i was like i am sold. I always wanted to buy some but thanks to this video i will never buy it.
He’s not wrong it would have a lot of benefits which I mentioned in the video but would it be moral? To me the purpose of sequestering carbon would mean not digging up sequestered carbon.
I most appreciate your tackling these suspect amendments. I've never used humic acid nor have I used many other growth-enhancing amendments. I try to stay with the basics that Nature uses and with great results.
Yea. I’m doing a liqui dirt review next week. And I’m dreading posting it LOL
Taking it out of the ground to put it back into the ground. And it's not from coal at all, but from leonardite. Science shows it improves the uptake of water and nutrients, so a grower can use less of each input for the same result.
Regardless you are removing sequestered carbon which is similar to harvesting peat. Here is the definition of leonardite. "Leonardites are organic materials that have not reached the coal stage yet. They differ from lignite by its higher degree of oxidation in the coalification process (moor > peat > coal), a higher humic acid content and a higher number of carboxyl groups."
www.humintech.com/glossary/leonardite#:~:text=Leonardites%20are%20organic%20materials%20that,higher%20number%20of%20carboxyl%20groups.
Thankyou for this 😄
Anytime! Glad you enjoyed
Very interesting.
Pretty cool stuff. I think it will gain a lot of momentum over the next few years
yes chelation video please!
woohoo okay
Ever heard of Leonardite ??
There has been so many scams in agriculture, especially when it comes to home gardeners where margins are the highest.
Another soul amendment that ' I personally' would not put on anything in my own garden is 'Bio-sludge' (one name) from wastewater plant's. You get all kinds of Extra's, like drug/antibiotic residues, heavy metals, etc,etc.👎
It’s so true all these companies see is dollar signs
I agree, when I read about that I was blown away and thought that was insane.
Why does Dr Elaine Ingham another soil scietist say we can make our own with compost leachate. She says humic acid is in compost.
It’s because all humic acid is is dead plant material that’s decomposed. She’s 110% correct.
I watched your video and then I watched: Adam Thoms, PhD explains the benefits of Humic Acid for turf grass.
Yeah no, humic acid is water soluble, you can make humic acid from compost. Humic acid helps form humus soil. So probably do some research bc yes humic acid can be man made but it’s a natural substance.
So humic acid isn’t natural. I’ve read at least 10 times that humic acid is produced by microbes in the way that a tree can grow out of a rock. Humic acid breaks down the rock over billions of years to make soil. Please tell us more. I’m very interested. Trying to farm as close to notill as I can. And yes to chelation. Been reading a lot about chelated micro nutrients
Its natural its just the the store bought stuff isnt an exact match to the real stuff found in nature because we arent sure how the nature version is produced
Saved me making a $oil mistake. TY
HAHA love that
Can you review all the N-ext product line🤣🤣I think you and John Perry would get along splendidly.
I have never even heard of that one I’ll have to look it up!
Oh, get a ladder and a handful of what's in the leaf gutters, and tell me if that's the perfect stuff for the garden!
HAHA That is very true
Funny that I watched the video where you are promoting humic acid Kaytonik by Rogitex. ❤
Maybe she changed her mind
@@susanb3989 she did! Because she found a company that made it ethically 💚 and I am using that product now 🪴
She has a degree, so she thinks she's smart. They pretty much hand them out to anyone that shows up. She put no research into this.
Brilliant! TH-cam has been pushing humic acid videos at me and I'd never heard of it before (UK). Was rather surprised when I searched and found it was made from a mined coal-like substance (they used a different name of course).
Also saw some videos with Elaine Ingram who says to make humic acid from compost. 🤷♀️ That seems rather different to what you and the products labelled "humic acid" are talking about. Do you understand how it relates to this?
I think her method would mean more natural forms of Humic and fluvic acid not the manufactured option. The issue is that the term humic acid doesn’t have an actual definition.
Hey just wondering if you actually have a degree? Because I read a book from a very respected NZ soil scientist, Nicole Masters, she also has a consultancy business that operates in NZ, AU and the US. She uses liquid humates all the time and she practices regen agriculture with excellent results not just for her but for a bunch of farmers and ranchers. According to her it comes from compost brews and other kind of brews. All natural from organic matter.
Yes I have an actual degree. People are allowed to have different conclusions based their field of study. A regen agriculture soil scientist isn’t going to see things the same as someone involved in conventional agriculture. th-cam.com/video/7KMFinCcDq0/w-d-xo.html
There's no need to be rude and condescending while you disagree with someone!
Ok so bottom line is, you think it’s unethical to support the coal industry but humid acid works. Am I getting it right?
Yup! 110%
It would be nice to list the peer reviewed studies that show applications of humic acid are worthless.
I am not a soil scientist but I used both liquid and granular humic products on a crappy lawn. What I found is my lawn dominated the block with green grass well into late December
It’s very frustrating finding definitive peer reviewed information and I honestly do not want to disrespect your credentials but what I do not like is people acting like soil chemistry is completely understood. Micronutrients for example are poorly understood in my opinion
Furthermore I feel even in its base form adding carbon via humic acid to an organic soil process is a benefit
So as long as I’m seeing positive results I plan to continue using it and I would ask you as a scientist rather than stand behind others work that you actually evaluate the application in a controlled way and discuss your results
Remember there was a time when science supported the sun revolving around the earth
This is an older video but I am relatively certain i said it works and made a second video explaining how and why it works. My issue is with the "ethics" if we are condemning the use of hydro carbons to sustain human life. Then an leoderonite sources humic acid should be categorized correctly.
@@GardeningInCanada I appreciate your reply. Thank you. So much is muddy waters. It’s hard ti find source material that isn’t driven by ulterior motives
I’ll try to check out your other material. Have a great new year and kick butt
She made the video. Realized she was wrong. Is trying to backtrack like we didn't just watch the video. Trying to now make it about morality.
Funny I just mixed up some himic acid and put it in my garden as an experiment to see. I then found your video. Lol
I guess Ill wait and see what, if anything happens.
Firtst, you are a cool chick.
Second, if i understand correctly, maybe its just the same to use biochar (and for free... ?) I mean its made from coal... or maybe just use the humus of worms, or compost whatever
it has some similarities
Ashley, you are my hero. Doing us all a service by calling out the snake oil guys.
Awe thanks! Glad you enjoy it but it gets me into trouble sometimes 😂😅
Is this really work?
I’ve like the product I have so far
@@GardeningInCanada did you make a video on Em-1?
You are so knowledgeable!
I appreciate that!
Why make videos when you don’t know what you are talking about? Bizzare.
Thanks for such a positive response! I am confident that level of positivity is going to help your channel enormously. What in particular are you concerned I don't know or am confused about? I am always open to insight and learning.
Hi Ashley. My question is does this product lock up the chloramine that is added into city tap waters. Is this bro or factual science? I must confess that marketing is very compelling to the inexperienced... and that is why I trust my soil scientist, Ashley. Sure, you bust a few dreams of Eden that I wish for in products but every bit of advice you offer us is unbiased and tested. thanks.
I’ve honestly never heard of it doing that before. So I’m assuming that’s hogwash
You are incorrect in many ways. Humid acid is naturally occurring. The acid is present in Humas It makes up about 2 percent of soil mass and occurres from decomposition
U aint kidding...bout to get in a fight in comments over this video 💪 🤣...just try it(if it's give to ya) and realize how much less nutrients you'll have to use...try it on a compost pile. Bet you'll notice things you've never seen before
I've used humic acid with gr8 success tbh but the fact tht it's not organic is disheartening especially bc its unethical... might still use it tho😂😂
it will work wonders. and you can get organically sources options
I’m starting to see that absolutely everything I thought I ever knew is an outright lie.
Thanks not derived in nature can be derived in a lab says it all. It's for sale nothing more. What does it provide that compost, soil management, soil microbe management, and other minerals provide? Chileation-Mew....
It is derived from nature. She was just wrong and realized it. You can tell from her responses to other comments. Humic acid is in every healthy soil. Adding more might not be necessary, though. Depends on your soil quality.