We Got 2 Great One Fallow Deer In Under 800 Kills! Plus A Great One Fallow Guide! Call of the wild
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- We Got 2 Great One Fallow Deer In Under 800 Kills! Plus A Great One Fallow Guide! Call of the wild
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Comment you kill counts below for fallow deer and if you are using HM or not. Also let me know if you have got your great one or if you are still looking! Trying to gather more data
250 with hm i want hooded with spoon rack
251 using hm 6 diamonds on my map
Edit: No great one
242 hm no g1
I think it's all random for g1s but the hm for diamonds is crazy, I only use it because I want super rares of some species
696 kills fables painted with saw rack🤩
The evidence we have available for whether or not HM affects GO spawns is WILDLY inconclusive. There’s evidence that would say it increases spawn rates, there evidence that says it has no effect, and theres evidence that would say that it negatively affects the spawn rates of GOs. There simply is not enough data to make any sort of accurate guess without a severe amount of doubt being placed behind said guess. Now, should HM increase the spawn rate of any GOs? In my opinion, no. HM should only be capable of increasing your diamond spawns. Leave the GOs and rare furs out of it.
but I'm sure about killing the big ones , i got my every three great oness under 200 kills
@@shahabodinrahnama2397the only way to be sure about this is to do the same without killing the big ones.
I agree, great ones are completely luck based. Anything level based (like diamonds) are the only things affected by HM and stacking, but it does help with getting super rares.
@@Gavtram wth that’s insane
@@Gavtram Anecdotal evidence doesn’t prove anything. Me and a group of 3 other friends have been grinding fallow using HM since the release and have not obtained a single GO fallow. All your friends experience proves is that he got very lucky.
This hypothesis is based on information we have about what is perhaps the rarest trophy in game, which seems to be the male albino bobwhite quail. It purportedly has a 1 : 37,000 spawn rate, according to NexusMods.
I think each Great One species has a different spawn probability (example: GO Whitetail may spawn in 1 : 2000, GO Moose might be 1 : 5000, etc...)
When you use herd management, you compress the spawn rate on either end of size spectrum (low and high sizes). When you groom your need zones and fill many of them with your low-level animals, it forces higher animals to spawn in the open slots you create by shooting mid-high level animals. Because the code is written so that high and low level animal MUST be balanced, filling your zones with such low level animals tricks the algorithm into thinking super high level animals are needed for balance. So, as the RNG is working to refill these open slots, it randomly chooses high-scoring rack/fur combinations available in the code. This includes the Great One data pool.
If the spawn probability for a GO is less (using my moose example, 1 : 5000), then you will likely see it spawn less even with herd management as compared to a GO species with higher spawn probability (say, GO Whitetail as my example with a 1 : 2000 spawn rate). This would explain why it seems to work faster for some GOs and not all - BUT, you're always working against the RNG system so it will be as random as it can be... even with compressed spawn rates.
Clear as mud? ^-^
Apologies for the novel. It is just a hypothesis. I leave it to peer review for your consideration.
You worded that a million times better than I could’ve. But I agree it seems to just be rng but HM could be used to leverage the system.
Congrats Scarecrow I hope I get my GO soon I’m 2600 kills in without a GO
Hopefully you get it soon dude!
Did you get it
@@TPK_Power yah I got it around 3100 kills and I got 5 more after that and a super rare
Love the Vids and Streams Keep up the great work.
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I shot an albino stubble quail yesterday, and I couldnt belive my eyes. I have no idea how rare it is exactly, but I reckon I am super lucky. I hope you get one as well Crow, and keep up the vids, they are the best they have ever been🙌👏
Always hated seeing people arguing about HM and whether it’s an exploit, cheating, etc. So glad to see Jaxy and the devs come out and give their response to it all. Hopefully it resolves some things in the community and brings people together again. By far one of the best gaming communities out there.
At the end of the day, if you paid the money for the game, you should be able to play it your way. No two people will play the same. Congrats on the Great Ones! Send some luck my way lol
I doubt HM matters for great ones, just like it doesn't matter for rares. Given that you can shoot a 1 and it come back as GO, I doubt it matters. You could always do reverse HM to validate.
Awesome on the Fallow GO's... It would be interesting to see if you would have the same results on console vs pc. It feels like there are differences based on platforms. On herd management... it is done in real life. I know people who manages their properties for better/larger whitetail bucks (in real life).
I started mine and I didn’t really know what I was doing but I spawned in 8 trolls, 2 diamonds, 2 piebalds, and a mela. Definitely going to move a couple zones and start using hm
Ever since I watched your g1 fallow guide I’ve gotten three Dias and a piepald in 150 kills love your content the video help a lot thank you
And I’m using hm
Congrats crow I’m working on my huddle fallow G1 only mount I’m at 2 of 3 G1 fallow I’m so close!!!!
You got this!
I’ve taken a lot of time off from COTW, but restarted on a new profile recently since Emerald Coast dropped. I was scoping out all my Red Deer zones yesterday and was going to grind them first because that was my first GO at around 200 harvests on my old account. But after seeing this I’m definitely going with Fallow. If I find zones with lone low level males should I leave those zones alone and focus on my more populated zones for herd management?
Great video, and congrats on the GOs! In my opinion HM has no affect on GOs. The way I look at it is that why would a system designed to help players that have small animals on their map, spawn the end game trophy? Also, remember when the GO WT was released, TK said that a GO was an upgraded version of a diamond. So going by that logic (if it's true), if GOs are affected then they would have the same increased spawn rate as a diamond has when using HM. Also I'm 1140 kills in doing pretty solid HM and still no GO.
I stopped using HM for fallows cuz most things weren’t spawning but when I stopped a lot more things started spawning
have been playing since mississippi release with no herd management and i havent even found myself any GO tracks, let alone seen one. i used to only hunt whitetail and sometimes moose, if i got bored of one map id switch somewhere else with whitetail and keep going. ive got over 700 hours on the game so far. a lil discouraging but im sure ill get one someday
Seriously loved this. I'm doing a red deer grind and was able to take a lot of what you said and apply it to my red deer grind. You don't have something like this for red deer do you?
I’ve been a fan for 4 years I was hyped when u got your first great o one
I must be the only person who doesn’t have a single great one yet! I done 3456 kills for red deer then gave up, 4254 kills for white tail and gave up, last count I made for the moose was 3376 if I get to 4000 im giving up on that to. Haven’t started follow grinding yet but honestly I can’t see it working out any different than the rest. Maybe I’ll stumble into one of the great ones by chance because I’m definitely done with grinding a specific species way to easy to burn out.
I've noticed that animals that have solitary need zones can still be male/female managed to ease the grind later. Taking only females around lakes I like to use that are nice and open with good sight lines and going around to "bad lakes" taking only males regardless of size seems to help in getting almost exclusively males around my preferred lakes.
Then when I grind I only shoot males and only around the preferred lakes. Being able to take out 8 male Pumas in a single run around a lake really speeds it up!
I don’t know how much herd management matters but if you want diamonds and larger rares HM works well. I think w/ GO It’s random chance….my hubby got his GO White tail on Rav w/ herd management in 272 kills. It took us both about 2,000 kills to get our Red deer w/ Herd management and i just got my Fallow GO last one at 775 kills (not perfectly as I had trouble switching the big single zones with the smaller males in my herds so after a while I gave up) Im gonna stack the GO to see if I can get my second one quickly but it may or may not work or matter don’t know
I think the GO spawn rate has something to do with the number of levels and the number of fur types of the animal, it explains why red deer and black bear seem to take more kills. Where moose and fallow only have 5 lvls. White tails would be the shortest grind with that theory, but they don't have as many fur variations so it kind of offsets it. Just my .02
Man i really want to do a grind for fallow now because their is one antler rack i want its the first fabled hooded you got with that rack and it reminds me of the irish elk fallow deer are the most related deer to the irish elk. I hope to do an GO grind in Australia lets hope me the best luck for that rack and a fur type for one if there is one.
Started fallow on all 3 platforms currently still going on Xbox so far I’m 16.2k in 11 g1 fallow 4 Sr trolls 1 sr & 483 dimes 60 rares & 159 trolls an im doing herd management as I did for every other grinds I don’t think herd management has a affect on G1s but it do more so on dimes & rare spawns an just having a better chance at getting a SR but it do definitely help in my opinion to use hm to get your map cut down to low levels an only rotate on a certain amount of zones
I did a 3000+ whitetail grind on Layton with no HM and couldn't get one. I switched to Rev and was able to get a whitetail G1 within 800 kills using HM
Seems like the more animals you respawn the better a chance you have to get a GO. If HM works the way it appears to then it may allow you to have maybe 5-10 need zones you patrol on a regular basis but seems to be pure rng based on your numbers.
I’m still grinding for mine. Quick question though. do you stack 5s or do you shoot them when they spawn?
Just started my fallow grind
I think it definitely works for fallow deer
I think that animals that go up to level 5 give faster great ones then 9s take longer and 3s take the middle point is what it seems like
“Paddle club spoon mickey rack” lol
I just clicked the vid om TH-cam to check in How your doing on your moose hunt and there it is 🎉😮
I've been using HM since I started my red deer grind and I'm at 2300-2400 with 47 diamonds, 9 trolls, and 7 rares. No GO yet. So in my opinion it definitely doesn't work for Red Deer. But I'm still using it, just to try to fill my lodge with a lot of diamonds. The grind is extremely boring otherwise. But I'm starting to still get bored with it. In my opinion my 269.1 diamond looks more impressive than the GO. But I want to get it in memory of Grandfather
I agree with the moose are affected my first grind I was setting the hm and got 775 kills for my first GO, then my second was very short while it was set at 281 and my third was only 425 kills I def think it works on moose
The game will try and make it interesting so you don’t get bored, so what happens when you tightly HM your map is the game spawning bigger animals, the game will do this with any species. I think what happens is after you get a great one or a diamond, males will be smaller for a bit and then your spawns will gradually increase in size until it peaks and the process repeats
I got my second GO fallow deer from 3 random kills in Hirsh (2 silver, 1 gold). And then I looked for it for one week. 😎
I got my first whitetail GO after 5572 kills, without HM
My first red deer GO grind was on Cautro, without HM and it went till 8816 kills and I DIDN'T get any great ones from that grind, then I switched to Te Awaroa and tried HM for the first time and got my 1st great one red deer in 681 kills and got my 2nd one in 67 kills
My black bear great one was an initual spawn and I'm really happy about it bc I wouldn't have the patience to grind black bear
My moose great one came after 219 kills with HM
And I'm currently doing my fallow deer GO grind with HM and I'm 714 kills into it without a great one
I know it's really little information to tell but I personally think that HM affects every great one species into spawning more great ones
Personal opinion,maybe herd management affects some animals more than others. Fallow deer and moose are a great example of this as there great ones come very quickly (in kills) but with other things like bears HM doesn't make them spawn a lot quicker. So maybe it just affects animals differently idk.
That's literally what he said in the video lol
Yeh I posted this before I saw that😂
I feel like at this point for me it’s all oiled down to spawn rate. On Te arowa I get really consistent spawns. For whatever reason my whitetail and moose grind have had really spotting spawns. So much to the point I’ve quit whitetail grinding. When they don’t spawn the grind takes forever.
I use hm as I don't have much spare time so I want as much as possible in the time I have.
I think it affects all animals personally, especially after my 80 kill red deer grind!
Of course, if you don't want to do it, that's ok!
But it's quite helpful to me personally.
Nice job crow
do you have a true guide for herd management? I've attempted it for moose, but I'm not sure if I'm doing it right!
Can you make a similar video for moose? I'm having a lot of zones that are double zones like a zone of 3 and a zone of 1 or 2. Is this normal? Some zones after you shoot the bulls seem to be only cow zones and bulls don't respawn. Also can you remove cows to get more bulls as long as you leave 2 cows? I know that works for Whitetail but the moose are a bit all over the place.
Question do I shoot my solos before my grind or when I get 5s in my main zones
jaxy saying it's definitely not an issue means they know it has no effect, it must be completely rng, although HM does make grinding them out easier in the sense that you dont have to look in as many places are walk as far
thats crazy crow i have spawned 1typ hooded 1 spoon painted 1 irish painted
I think that it’s the level that is being affected only 5 level species are affected. Whitetail is a level 3 species and Red deer and black bear are level 9.
My first moose took me about 1200 kills and the second only 80, the third 130, I think it affects
I got back to back super rear black feral coat and huge diamond feral coat and the score was 222.73. good work crow keep up the good work
Ah yes the coat my favourite animal to hunt
i haven’t been lucky enough to spot any feral coats yet
My whitetail GO grind just ended with 4800 kills😂
Got my great one fallow! I used hm, was over 3000!!!
Scarecrow you should try the 45-70 on the kangaroos I tried it and it worked very good
That is a lot of great one fallow
I want to start a fallow grind, but I’m trying so hard not to lose hope for my whitetail great one. I’m currently 4200 harvests in with only two rares during the whole grind, but have gotten over 275 diamond whitetail. I can’t play much so these 4200 kills have spanned over weeknights since Christmas. I just don’t understand why I can’t get one and move on, heck I figured I would’ve already had it and a moose go before they ever announced the fallow but I’m starting to think I should just stop the grind entirely.
I will also say the last 3000 kills have been using herd management and yes I have all of my zones.
I’m pushing 15000 whitetails killed. Around 60diamonds, one diamond melanistic and one diamond piebald. But still no great one.
Red deer took me around 8000, and moose 7-800.
Ive just seen the vid now , but with my experiance , my first GO fallow took about 1700 kills but then the next 120 and the one after that only 100 , all using HM
Hey crow how many level 5's should I stack on my map before shooting down my exterior zones
Crow my thought is fallow and moose go to 5. Whitetail are odd. The rest go to 9 which means you need more
Yesterday I shot 5 level 4 fallow deer kill one then a second or two later another one runs out boom I had 5 down on the newest map.
Grinds going ok,after 700odd fallow, Just hit 20th Diamond….surely I’m close to my G-O! What I did find during this grind was: if I set the time back to 11 and do nothing until 11:30 it gives the spawns enough time to get to their zones!
I got my first diamond fallow on muliti last night
Great vid SC and congrats on the GO's. I think EW just put the HM debate to rest. I am totally shocked that you can play a game on your own machine the way you want, who'd a thunk it. LMAO.
I’m 711 kills in no great one yet 3 diamonds two trolls one rare respawns been iffy in some zones but pretty smooth grind
I just started a whitetail grind, its totally without hm. So far i dont know exact numbers but i got like 500 kills, got 2 diamonds and 2 rares. I think its just the more "normal" way to grind, even grinding itself is not the real hunting feeling For me.
Iv been doing herd management I have 1000 kills with 0 great ones, and yes iv been picking up my kills
I do hm on every grind i do it always made me get lots of diamonds bu never worked for greatones im on a 7000 kills grind with moose and still never got one and 1500 with fallow and dont have either it is always based on oresonal experiences
i used hm for my red deer grind and got it just under 2k kills
How do I delete unwanted zones?
This is my first time using HM so I was also curious of why my herds don’t show up sometimes?
Do you leave the single zones or shoot them
Personally I didn't used hm and got a GO fallow in like 300 kills around something like that and actually my GO came from a loner zone
I think hm is working for me on fallow because I was around 30 kills and 5 MEDUIM’s started showing up a lot
I don’t understand how hm effects great ones or not because the great one is rng and is completely random
And for me when I use hm it is for a super rare grind so technically I do a great one and super rare grind at the same time
Please help me understand the moose great one grind. I have been doing heard management for 2 weeks now and I still have level 2 moose spawning at my main lakes.
500 kills,5 diamonds, 8 rares, no great one, no HM...Just started 4 days ago.
can you make a loadout video for the new Australia map?
I accidentally deleted two of my main zones on te awrora, what will happen with the fallow deer’s in that zones
I think it affects different animals for different people
I’m 800 kills in and using Hm I think your getting lucky I don’t know if it affects GO really hard to decide
What do you do with the solo zones?
I got 2 great one red deer before I even got a big rack diamond I think it’s just luck depending on kill count
I’m just commenting because I know it helps you out
Yall are lucky 🍀. My 10 year old little brother shot a daimond warthog, a daimond wildebeest and a mela moose in one day. When do I get this lucky 😭
I’m 1400 kills in with 18 diamonds, 1 troll, and 9 rares but still no great one
Do you have to heard manage the coast zones
I’m kinda new to hcotw so can someone explain how herd management works?
I’m trying to start a GO Moose grind on New England. I have found 131 drink zones, but everyone says there are around 200… I have searched every inch of water. Is that enough zones or am I missing too many? How would you suggest finding the rest?
Grind on New England it's really hard. Grinders hate New England because of the rivers.
When doing hm what level threes should I leave in the
Hey scarecrow maybe it might be that the level counts affect it like how fallow and moose can only go through 1-5 unlike bears and red deer that go through 1-9
Imo red deer are affected by it. I had a g1 grind with hm of 500 kills and then immediately after that one with 80 kills
@@BrainrotOf87 but scarecrow quite literally pointed out that red deer and black bear have the longest average kill counts
i've got mine fallow with only 200 kills with no HM
To be honest, I can’t really decide I was using HM just not all the way and got one grind at 77 so I don’t know what to believe😂
I honestly think crow that the RNG is a higher percentage than others
How long does it generally take you to set up herd management for whitetail?
This is just my opinion but setting up herd management for any animal is all different because it depends on how much you shoot maybe but my hm took around a week but that could be different for you
What is your favorite map to play?and great job.
Australia is my favorite
I don’t know about moose because I used heavy HM and I got my GO at 1300 ish kills but that’s only one so i guess that’s irrelevant
hey scarecrow, do you think the next time you go live you can give us some tips on how to make money? i want to start a new grind for fallow deer and need some tents. but i don’t have enough money😢it would make me very happy if you would
My friend nutbutter got his GO in 60 kills no hm, I’m at 1,968 with hm no GO, I don’t think hm affects them, just my experiences
Hi
first i think it is pure luck wither it's with or without herd mangment , i got my red deer great one after 28 diamonds and fallow deer after 12 diamonds , you can't effect respawn with herd mangment , it is totally random you can ask any games programer , second i think it's not fun to use herd mangment while the main purpose of playing is to have fun .
I am 250 kills in and just started loosing respawns than I got in trouble for playing too much😭😭
I’m gonna state my data for my moose grind on medvid which was a full hm grind and a really good one. But I’m gonna have to disagree with hm effecting moose gos because all my go moose grind were longer than average. U could say the average is like 600-1,400 yeah well mine was over average every time. My first go moose took 2,000 kills to get, the next took 1,800 kills then the last attempted grind ending with a 2,800 kill grind with no go and no super rare. All of this was hm