Every driver is a beginner at one time. No body is borned a professional. WTF is wrong with all these dumb asses making all this dumb comments. I am just starting to learn and I find this video to be an excellent training video. Sorry I was not born driving a truck. Hope to be a professional some day.
Very good questions. If I had to guess why they we don't have synchromesh transmissions here is mainly because most drivers don't want to have to use the clutch to shift. It is harder to power shift a car simply because of the synchros. The synchros are trying to slow the gear down to match the road speed, which when shifting a big truck transmission you would accomplish by either double clutching, or waiting between shifts when floating. This is also why it's harder on a synchro transmission.
@ Blake, double clutching now is for those that have not taken their CDL test. Off course it's fine to float gears once you have passed your road test. But in some states, I think it is mandatory to double clutch when taking the road test.
In Minnesota, If you cost at all you will fail on the spot. they teach you that you should always keep in in gear in case you get into an accident so the transmission will help slow you down.
I am not sure if you are joking or not, but in case you are serious... Big rigs have significantly different transmissions and clutches in them. They do not have syncros in them, ergo the gears do not line up on their own. SO to line them up you have to double clutch. The other choice is to shift slowly and with good timing. You pull it out of gear, wait for the desired gear to line up,& slide it in. It is easy once you learn. Can do it in a car too, if you wanted. Syncros = easier to shift:)
I’m in trucking school and I’ve tried to shift to second but kept grinding it , it thought I was gonna get it bc I been playing American simulator with a shifter and pedals but nah irl is different
Flick the splitter (switch on knob) up then put back into "1st" to get into 6th. It's essentially two 5spd transmissions. Don't use splitter in neutral. Splitter up while in 5th before you enter neutral to shift to 6th.
Having driven mainly European trucks I can't help noticing how crude the interior of that truck is..just a horrible long metal stick protruding from the floor as a gearstick and the noise level in the cab is insane..Incredible!
I have gotten slightly better with downshifting. However I learned its hard to have to start moving going up hill from a traffic light. Hopefully Ill get the hang of it. I have 2 1/2 more weeks left in school and starting Friday we are using the road trucks for the yard skills such as backing.
It's a straight truck with no trailer towing capabilities (ie. no 5th wheel). My guess is it was made from factory to be a garbage truck, a local dump truck or maybe an in city delivery truck. I drove one but it was a 6 speed International.
People use the clutch in cars because they are synchronized transmissions in cars. In American big trucks the transmissions are not synchronized, and they also have straight cut gears. (Cars have helical cut gears) Much easier and faster to shift without the clutch. Big truck clutches are also solid disc clutches. They're not meant to be slipped much at all. Again, another reason to shift without the clutch. That and double clutching will wear out your leg in no time.
you are exactly 100% right You need it for first and reverse. I drove for many years with different tractors and trucks and never took a transmission out and never wore a clutch out.
Excellent video! Been over 3 years since I drove a truck after getting my license at 19, here's to hoping someone can hire me at 23. Great refresher buddy!
Damn, clutching is already a chore to me, double clutching, that's a driving nightmare lol. All hail automatic shifters! Fuck clutches, fuck shifts. Can't wait for the end of them. Maximum respect to anyone who has to clutch the fuck out of any vehicle 8 hours a day, 22 days a month 12 months a year lol. That's a lot of knee work!
@ Angel, this video, I do believe is for the ones that want to learn how to double clutch, not floating the gears, duh!. But any way, you did a great job on this double clutching. My boyfriend started me out floating the gears and it was cool. But you got to double clutch when taking your test, sooo now I got to learn the double clutching system. My boyfriend is a great teacher and patience person when it comes down to teaching me to do something I've always wanted to do. I love my baby for his patience with me. Again, great video.
i usually give bad remarks for double clutching because its a waste of a premature clutch job. but, as a heavy equipment mechanic/heavy haul driver, u do a pretty damn good job. id reffer u for a job anyday...nice
Good shifting, just tell everyone what RPM's your up shifting at and what speeds your downshifting. That has been the biggest problem I have had is knowing when to shift up or down.
To understand the reason truck mfg's don't use synchro's you need 2 understand exactly what syncr's do. They work like a brake does, in a downshift they work opposite. They use brass rings that can and do wear out over time. with the amount of mass and torque that go thru a semi trans they would wear out real fast. To shift a trans without syncro's you have to have clutch out (or engaged) in neutral so as engine speed changes so does the input shaft of the trans.
Another thing that's interesting is this whole thing about helical vs. straight-on gears. Well, the reason that consumer vehicles have helical gears is to reduce noise, right? Okay, well why don't they do that in these big trucks too? But even then, what does the tooth cut have to do with how easy they are to shift, when you aren't actually meshing the teeth during shifting anyway--but just meshing dog-tooth rings?
@@zacharybishop6595 I think so too! It sounds similar to the OM906 which I'm pretty sure is the European version of this engine, mounted in the Mercedes Atego trucks.
Actually man i am a truck driver, most drivers don't use the clutch for the simple fact that the Eaton Fuller transmission isn't supposed to be clutched, the only reason for most drivers using the clutch is starting, stopping, and the free travel in the clutch to shut the jake brake on and off instead of flipping the switch. It isn't recommended that u use the clutch because that is actual wear on the clutch bearing and springs and the clutch itself, and it can wear your tranny out in a hurry.
If the force on the driveline is not broken by the clutch being disengaged, the synchros encounter an extreme amount of wear and once synchros wear out, it makes it very difficult to shift, and could make it pop out of gear, etc.
Dude😂 there's no synchros in that transmission. That's why dumptrucks and semis have a clutch brake. The only ones that have synchronizers in it are what we call a "straight six," which is a 6-speed transmission like you'd find in a car. I didn't even know those existed until I came to work for the state. Other than that, no other transmission with a higher gear count has synchronizers in it
Newer trucks are fine to clutchless shift. The truckers I know are all driving older trucks they are renting out, and they need to use the clutch because syncros back then are not what syncros are today. Since most truckers on the road are driving older style trucks, its fair to say most use the clutch. Im not saying everyone does, but its largely a myth that ALL truckers do clutchless shifting. Thats really what I was trying to say.
me gusta ver sus videos pero me gustaria que explicaran la secuencia de los cambios antes de empezar si pudieran acer un dibujo de como es de la 1 a4 o cuando empezar el cambio para llegar al 10 me gustan los camiones ya la oportunidad de manejar una q trae el convertidor 1 al 4 y subir convertidor para llegar cambio 5 al 8 resp lo mas pronto posible saber mas del de 10 velocidades gracias amigo
I never use the clutch, and I never EVER coast to a stop in neutral or sit at a light in neutral, the only time I'm in neutral is when I have the break set.
biggest mistake was leaving the trucking industry. Swift lent me an automatic and it was alright for a while then it became really dull after a while. i had to switch to a manual ten speed before i left and i loved it. theres nothing like a manual rig
And why wouldn't big truck clutches be made to slip much, even though that's the point of a clutch, and especially when most of your slipping is done during start-off anyway (since during shifting, the clutch is engaged more quickly than during take-off)? How is it supposedly "much easier and faster" to shift without using the clutch in one of these big trucks than with double-clutching, if it looks like double-clutching enables you not to have to figure out your rev matching?
And why *aren't* big truck transmissions made to be synchronized? And why is it supposedly *harder* to power-shift a consumer vehicle (though still possible, and not always terribly difficult) just because it has the synchronizers than I hear that it is in a big truck (which seems counter-intuitive; on first thought, ya'd think the synchros would make that easier)? And why do they say that not only is it harder to do in a consumer vehicle, but harder *on* the consumer vehicle (to power-shift)?
Is that an air cooled engine? I have heard they were sounds like a nice little motor. Its not a 350 Mack or a 3406 but it does wellin its application. Is that a early Sterling/Ford?
I suppose it would be good for someone new to use the clutch but once you get feel for the where the rpm’s need to be while shifting, things just magically fall into place
99% of these boxes are not synchro boxes.. the clutch is not required. Using the clutch for every upshift will mean sooner maintenance is required on the clutch and will not affect the longevity of the transmission.
Well then why don't the mfr.s make the synchroS (without a stray apostrophe, by the way, since it's just the plural form) out of a metal that's harder than brass--something that would last longer?
Ahhhhhhh!!! I'm confused with downshifting!! When ure on a high speed for example and press on d brake how do u control that and make it a low speed real quick!?
When you whant to move from the 6th to the 5th first you put your ranger down (the button) you get out from the 6th your going to the far right you rev up a little bit with your throttle and you get in the 5th gear
There aren't any synchronizers in the transmission, so you have to do the part of the synchronizer and synchronize the speed of the input shaft with the correct corresponding gear you wish to use
he does shift smooth. i shifted my columbia like this for years. smooth. then they got me in a new prostar and i cant get that thing shifting consistanly smooth for the life of me.
It looks like this driver is using the clutch each time he shifts. I have four questions. 1) Does the driver have to push the clutch in order to start the truck? 2)Isn't it bad to use the clutch each time the driver shifts gears? 3) Isn't it best to shift according to RPM? Will the weight of the trailer cause a truck with an automatic transmission to snap out of gear? This is what I have always heard. And 4) Are big rigs with automatic transmissions reliable and durable? Thanks....
MrPhil0267 1) yes, unless the clutch safety switch has been removed. 2) no, not bad, just not the most convenient for the driver. No ill effect on the truck. 3) with an unsychronized transmission, you have no choice but to "shift according to RPM". It doesn't matter if you are floating gears or double clutching, it will not go into gear unless you rev match rpms. 4) i think most drivers would argue that standards transmissions are preferred for their control/usability. You have much greater control over the drivetrain with a standard. But automatics are much simpler to operate (boring in my opinion lol). As far as durability/reliability, I would say most truckers also argue standards are more durable/reliable, but automatics aren't necessarily "weak". Most well maintained autos will last almost as long as a standard. Hope this helps
Ha, I "love" how you "really explained, right from the beginning, what you were doing to go from 5th into 6th." We get to guess when you flipped the switch and how it works without hunting through the video to see if it comes later.
Sometime that's what they teach I heard.. The clutch act as a transmission break sorta..any way the name of the radio thing is a faceplate.... Good job..
What kind of truck are you driving? I know with a tractor trailer you start off in 3rd on a 10 speed. But I always start off in 3rd when Im light or empty and 2nd when Im heavy.
well I do both, I won't use the clutch on high side. once I flip down to low I have trouble getting my timing right so I clutch. I drive an 18 speed mack and a 13 speed mack. both trucks run great with good tranny. I just need to work on it I guess, only been driving 4 months. any ideas on better floating on low side?
Im currently going through tractor trailer school and my worst part is downshifting when getting off the freeway at exit ramps. And at times downshifting to 4th gear when approaching a red light. How long does it normally take to get used to shifting a 10 speed?
@@Leprechaun_of_Maryland yes. I also learned tricks from my trainer as well. I even learned how to shift without use of the clutch and it's much easier than double clutch
@ussenterp65 You can in fact drive a truck at age 18+ You just can't go out of state until you turn 21, at least such is the law in Washington state, and apparently were this InaboxPayne is located as well.
Now see, this video right here answered a long running question of a training driver like myself. (not at school yet) "How the fuck do you double clutch?"
So you can return the splitter to "Lo" while in neutral while coasting without any damage? Also, when is double clutching recommended/preferred over just floating the gears with no clutch?
Evan Berwick You really only have to use the clutch when starting and stopping, now if you want to have your ankle/foot in pain all the time then yes you can clutch anytime you want to. There is really no limit on when and where you can use clutch to shift.
In your bloody dreams, a driver knows when to shift by the tone of the engine the slope how well the vehicle is moving and that requires experience , NOT some Dopey phone App
Apptech 23 Again I reiterate that NO app is going to help where an experienced trainer is far superior at imparting knowledge. IMHO some app is going to simply make more problems for operator's when we really need a global data base of experienced retired operator's who want to pass on their knowledge and experience. THAT is how your going to save Lives and Fuel and make the transport industry more efficient and safe.
Well, by "use the clutch in cars," I guess you really mean "use the clutch to shift in consumer vehicles," right? Well, that's interesting, because it looked like double-clutching this truck makes it just about as automatic a "let-in" as single-clutching a consumer vehicle is. Does it (other than making ya tired sooner)?
Well guys he's not driving a semi.If he was there would be a red knob next to the yellow knob on the dash. He's most likely driving a vocational truck. cement truck . garbage truck ect ect. and he chooses the use the clutch instead of floating the gears big deal its his knees
It's not an "emergency air supply" it's for the spring brakes, when you pull it, it actually releases air and applies the spring brakes, its designed for parking, not an emergency brake. And yes this is a straight truck.
Non-synchro transmission have to be driven double clutching...You can work with only one clutch (out the stick on fuel realease and in with clutch) ou without clutch... In fact on a non-synchro transmission the clutch is only for starting and secure de transmission...You do the synchronisation... Not like the synchro transmission on a car... But down shifting is a little more challenging cause you must know the rpm when you leaving and the rpm when you put it in...Everything that mak normal car annoying to drive
It's better to double clutch for the sake of the engine, and trucks are different just in the fact that everything is up against a mack, one of the weirdest ones to shift due to the rpms.
No you don't have to double clutch, although the manufacture recommends that you do. You can float them if your road speed and engine rpms match. If it goes into gear without you feeling and hearing any grinding you are doing it correctly.
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Thank you for posting this. Watching you shift helped me pass my CDL road test in a 10 speed.
Why do diesel engines sound so DAMN AMAZING. I CAN'T GET ENOUGH!!!!!!!
Every driver is a beginner at one time. No body is borned a professional. WTF is wrong with all these dumb asses making all this dumb comments. I am just starting to learn and I find this video to be an excellent training video. Sorry I was not born driving a truck. Hope to be a professional some day.
Ya same
Your damn right bro, i hope to be a owner-operater when i graduate from high school after i go to a trucking college and get my CDL.
I had to double clutch when going through school and taking the state test but once I went out to work I mostly float.
Very good questions. If I had to guess why they we don't have synchromesh transmissions here is mainly because most drivers don't want to have to use the clutch to shift.
It is harder to power shift a car simply because of the synchros. The synchros are trying to slow the gear down to match the road speed, which when shifting a big truck transmission you would accomplish by either double clutching, or waiting between shifts when floating. This is also why it's harder on a synchro transmission.
@ Blake, double clutching now is for those that have not taken their CDL test. Off course it's fine to float gears once you have passed your road test. But in some states, I think it is mandatory to double clutch when taking the road test.
midnightpassion43 yes you're right, and those instructors shit their pants if you grind a gear
No coasting allowed on roadtest.
In Minnesota, If you cost at all you will fail on the spot. they teach you that you should always keep in in gear in case you get into an accident so the transmission will help slow you down.
Clutch is a best friend to me. Had my breaks loose pressure down the highway and had to clutch break to a stop.
I am not sure if you are joking or not, but in case you are serious...
Big rigs have significantly different transmissions and clutches in them. They do not have syncros in them, ergo the gears do not line up on their own. SO to line them up you have to double clutch. The other choice is to shift slowly and with good timing. You pull it out of gear, wait for the desired gear to line up,& slide it in. It is easy once you learn. Can do it in a car too, if you wanted. Syncros = easier to shift:)
Drove my first one today and grinded the hell out of them XD
Loll, this is me grinding gears trying to downshift in a semi using no clutch th-cam.com/video/e7ur3bSBDjU/w-d-xo.html
I’m in trucking school and I’ve tried to shift to second but kept grinding it , it thought I was gonna get it bc I been playing American simulator with a shifter and pedals but nah irl is different
@@ThunderingDiesel gotta match those rpms, i can float them without thinking now lol.
@@ThatTechJunkie nice man, whenever I have my own Pete ima float or maybe just do it with the company truck
Man I tried today but man I keep damn grinding it, it’s like I can’t get that timing
Flick the splitter (switch on knob) up then put back into "1st" to get into 6th. It's essentially two 5spd transmissions. Don't use splitter in neutral. Splitter up while in 5th before you enter neutral to shift to 6th.
It's not a splitter, it's a range selector
Having driven mainly European trucks I can't help noticing how crude the interior of that truck is..just a horrible long metal stick protruding from the floor as a gearstick and the noise level in the cab is insane..Incredible!
I see..ok thanks for your reply. Are they better or worse than the Kenworths etc..? Regards
SwooshForce Thank you! International's are the WORST trucks imaginable... they always have broken AC's, too! lol
SwooshForce I drive one on a daily basis, all of this is true lol
So in europe truck driver are housewives????
I have gotten slightly better with downshifting. However I learned its hard to have to start moving going up hill from a traffic light. Hopefully Ill get the hang of it. I have 2 1/2 more weeks left in school and starting Friday we are using the road trucks for the yard skills such as backing.
It's a straight truck with no trailer towing capabilities (ie. no 5th wheel). My guess is it was made from factory to be a garbage truck, a local dump truck or maybe an in city delivery truck. I drove one but it was a 6 speed International.
People use the clutch in cars because they are synchronized transmissions in cars. In American big trucks the transmissions are not synchronized, and they also have straight cut gears. (Cars have helical cut gears) Much easier and faster to shift without the clutch. Big truck clutches are also solid disc clutches. They're not meant to be slipped much at all. Again, another reason to shift without the clutch. That and double clutching will wear out your leg in no time.
nice teaching and your voice is clear thanks a lot .by Andrew from Kenya thanks again
you are exactly 100% right You need it for first and reverse.
I drove for many years with different tractors and trucks and never took a transmission out and never wore a clutch out.
Excellent video! Been over 3 years since I drove a truck after getting my license at 19, here's to hoping someone can hire me at 23. Great refresher buddy!
Don’t ya gotta be 21 to get cdl license
@@moeali3190 nope 18 but can’t leave the state until 21
Thanks for teaching me how to shift my dad couldn’t teach me anything
What exactly did he teach? He didn't even downshift when he got to the light.
he didn't tell me that we didn't have to use clutch and also shift when you're at high RPM@@C-CH_Learn_how_2shift
Damn, clutching is already a chore to me, double clutching, that's a driving nightmare lol. All hail automatic shifters! Fuck clutches, fuck shifts. Can't wait for the end of them. Maximum respect to anyone who has to clutch the fuck out of any vehicle 8 hours a day, 22 days a month 12 months a year lol. That's a lot of knee work!
You sound like a baby and you don't have to clutch every gear so i don't know why it would be hard on your knee
alex stammen You don't have to clutch every gear? How's that?
alex stammen
learn to float and save your knee....lol
Dale Schultz But can you float gears on a truck? :D
one of the greatest job in world is truck driver
Sterling is one of my favorite trucks.
Great shifting, very professional.
@ Angel, this video, I do believe is for the ones that want to learn how to double clutch, not floating the gears, duh!. But any way, you did a great job on this double clutching. My boyfriend started me out floating the gears and it was cool. But you got to double clutch when taking your test, sooo now I got to learn the double clutching system. My boyfriend is a great teacher and patience person when it comes down to teaching me to do something I've always wanted to do. I love my baby for his patience with me. Again, great video.
i usually give bad remarks for double clutching because its a waste of a premature clutch job. but, as a heavy equipment mechanic/heavy haul driver, u do a pretty damn good job. id reffer u for a job anyday...nice
Good shifting, just tell everyone what RPM's your up shifting at and what speeds your downshifting. That has been the biggest problem I have had is knowing when to shift up or down.
WO man
Cool
Driver Charles 1500 up and 1000 down
+Nathan Swisshelm not in real life. Not in low gears anyway
+Nathan Swisshelm These are the same RPMs I shift up and down at on my 10 speed Eaton Fuller NonSynchronized...
Nathan Swisshelm 1400 1100
To understand the reason truck mfg's don't use synchro's you need 2 understand exactly what syncr's do. They work like a brake does, in a downshift they work opposite. They use brass rings that can and do wear out over time. with the amount of mass and torque that go thru a semi trans they would wear out real fast. To shift a trans without syncro's you have to have clutch out (or engaged) in neutral so as engine speed changes so does the input shaft of the trans.
Another thing that's interesting is this whole thing about helical vs. straight-on gears. Well, the reason that consumer vehicles have helical gears is to reduce noise, right? Okay, well why don't they do that in these big trucks too? But even then, what does the tooth cut have to do with how easy they are to shift, when you aren't actually meshing the teeth during shifting anyway--but just meshing dog-tooth rings?
You drive really smooth! Good job.
What engine has the truck, and how much load were you hauling?
I know this is an old comment, but it sounds like a Mercedes MBE 900
@@zacharybishop6595 I think so too! It sounds similar to the OM906 which I'm pretty sure is the European version of this engine, mounted in the Mercedes Atego trucks.
@@CreRay Their the same exact engine. The OM460 is the MBE4000 here.
I know absolutely nothing about trucking or even driving a manual... this looks like either a lot of fun or an absolute nightmare to drive lol
sterling trucks are so easy and smooth to shift floating gears
Actually man i am a truck driver, most drivers don't use the clutch for the simple fact that the Eaton Fuller transmission isn't supposed to be clutched, the only reason for most drivers using the clutch is starting, stopping, and the free travel in the clutch to shut the jake brake on and off instead of flipping the switch. It isn't recommended that u use the clutch because that is actual wear on the clutch bearing and springs and the clutch itself, and it can wear your tranny out in a hurry.
If the force on the driveline is not broken by the clutch being disengaged, the synchros encounter an extreme amount of wear and once synchros wear out, it makes it very difficult to shift, and could make it pop out of gear, etc.
Dude😂 there's no synchros in that transmission. That's why dumptrucks and semis have a clutch brake. The only ones that have synchronizers in it are what we call a "straight six," which is a 6-speed transmission like you'd find in a car. I didn't even know those existed until I came to work for the state. Other than that, no other transmission with a higher gear count has synchronizers in it
Newer trucks are fine to clutchless shift. The truckers I know are all driving older trucks they are renting out, and they need to use the clutch because syncros back then are not what syncros are today. Since most truckers on the road are driving older style trucks, its fair to say most use the clutch. Im not saying everyone does, but its largely a myth that ALL truckers do clutchless shifting. Thats really what I was trying to say.
me gusta ver sus videos pero me gustaria que explicaran la secuencia de los cambios antes de empezar si pudieran acer un dibujo de como es de la 1 a4 o cuando empezar el cambio para llegar al 10 me gustan los camiones ya la oportunidad de manejar una q trae el convertidor 1 al 4 y subir convertidor para llegar cambio 5 al 8 resp lo mas pronto posible saber mas del de 10 velocidades gracias amigo
I never use the clutch, and I never EVER coast to a stop in neutral or sit at a light in neutral, the only time I'm in neutral is when I have the break set.
Traning right now , like the video keep it up
Did that truck come out of the factory with an Eaton Fuller transmission?
biggest mistake was leaving the trucking industry. Swift lent me an automatic and it was alright for a while then it became really dull after a while. i had to switch to a manual ten speed before i left and i loved it. theres nothing like a manual rig
And why wouldn't big truck clutches be made to slip much, even though that's the point of a clutch, and especially when most of your slipping is done during start-off anyway (since during shifting, the clutch is engaged more quickly than during take-off)?
How is it supposedly "much easier and faster" to shift without using the clutch in one of these big trucks than with double-clutching, if it looks like double-clutching enables you not to have to figure out your rev matching?
been trucking for almost a year now. It took me a week to drop the double clutch and learn the powershift way. overall it's not so difficult.
shifting is fun,but not after 10 hours drive or when u get stuck couple hours in some traffic.im lucky my trucks are mostly automatic.
And why *aren't* big truck transmissions made to be synchronized?
And why is it supposedly *harder* to power-shift a consumer vehicle (though still possible, and not always terribly difficult) just because it has the synchronizers than I hear that it is in a big truck (which seems counter-intuitive; on first thought, ya'd think the synchros would make that easier)?
And why do they say that not only is it harder to do in a consumer vehicle, but harder *on* the consumer vehicle (to power-shift)?
In gear press clutch and move to nutural, release clutch, push clutch again then shift
Is that an air cooled engine? I have heard they were sounds like a nice little motor. Its not a 350 Mack or a 3406 but it does wellin its application. Is that a early Sterling/Ford?
What type of automobile are you operating in this vid? Is this a dump truck super10?
I suppose it would be good for someone new to use the clutch but once you get feel for the where the rpm’s need to be while shifting, things just magically fall into place
whenever i drove...i only need the clutch when i started out or when i was at a stop light ,stop sign , or when i backed up
What's your favourite thing about driving? Using the pedals, shifting, playing with yourself? What? Tell me mister. Lmao
This is what im gonna do when i graduate from tech school in 2 years
Nikolai Foxkowski my tech schools only 13 months for diesel certification what are you going for?
fordlover3293 diesel engines. Im taking automatics right now. Im taking a 4T60E apart
Nikolai Foxkowski oh are you taking diesel and auto? im just taking diesel at lincoln tech.
fordlover3293 yeah diesel and auto
Nikolai Foxkowski thats pretty cool. im doing what i gotta do to get a job and move to boston lol.
99% of these boxes are not synchro boxes.. the clutch is not required. Using the clutch for every upshift will mean sooner maintenance is required on the clutch and will not affect the longevity of the transmission.
lol the gauge system reminds of when i was ini high school.. we had a bus that had the same gauge system and it was powered by mercedes...
Well then why don't the mfr.s make the synchroS (without a stray apostrophe, by the way, since it's just the plural form) out of a metal that's harder than brass--something that would last longer?
Ahhhhhhh!!! I'm confused with downshifting!! When ure on a high speed for example and press on d brake how do u control that and make it a low speed real quick!?
When you whant to move from the 6th to the 5th first you put your ranger down (the button) you get out from the 6th your going to the far right you rev up a little bit with your throttle and you get in the 5th gear
Ive been shifting without the clutch for 15+yrs, never has and premature wear problems
Great video. Not being a truck driver, I do have one question, why do you have to double clutch to change gears?
There aren't any synchronizers in the transmission, so you have to do the part of the synchronizer and synchronize the speed of the input shaft with the correct
corresponding gear you wish to use
he does shift smooth. i shifted my columbia like this for years. smooth. then they got me in a new prostar and i cant get that thing shifting consistanly smooth for the life of me.
It looks like this driver is using the clutch each time he shifts. I have four questions. 1) Does the driver have to push the clutch in order to start the truck? 2)Isn't it bad to use the clutch each time the driver shifts gears? 3) Isn't it best to shift according to RPM? Will the weight of the trailer cause a truck with an automatic transmission to snap out of gear? This is what I have always heard. And 4) Are big rigs with automatic transmissions reliable and durable? Thanks....
MrPhil0267 1) yes, unless the clutch safety switch has been removed. 2) no, not bad, just not the most convenient for the driver. No ill effect on the truck. 3) with an unsychronized transmission, you have no choice but to "shift according to RPM". It doesn't matter if you are floating gears or double clutching, it will not go into gear unless you rev match rpms. 4) i think most drivers would argue that standards transmissions are preferred for their control/usability. You have much greater control over the drivetrain with a standard. But automatics are much simpler to operate (boring in my opinion lol). As far as durability/reliability, I would say most truckers also argue standards are more durable/reliable, but automatics aren't necessarily "weak". Most well maintained autos will last almost as long as a standard.
Hope this helps
nice video man!
Ha, I "love" how you "really explained, right from the beginning, what you were doing to go from 5th into 6th." We get to guess when you flipped the switch and how it works without hunting through the video to see if it comes later.
Very helpful. Thanks!
This dudes fukn that truck up over reving and tearing up the clutch
Driving in the city manual is a pain in the ass
Sometime that's what they teach I heard.. The clutch act as a transmission break sorta..any way the name of the radio thing is a faceplate.... Good job..
very nice ! congratulations !
What kind of truck are you driving? I know with a tractor trailer you start off in 3rd on a 10 speed. But I always start off in 3rd when Im light or empty and 2nd when Im heavy.
I'm guessing that's a dump truck. No trailer brakes.
Great instructions thanks
Seems you don't spend a long time at all on those (lower) gears. What speeds are redline speeds on each gear?
well I do both, I won't use the clutch on high side. once I flip down to low I have trouble getting my timing right so I clutch. I drive an 18 speed mack and a 13 speed mack. both trucks run great with good tranny. I just need to work on it I guess, only been driving 4 months. any ideas on better floating on low side?
А почему с двойным выжимом сцеплениям???? Коробка передач неисправна?? Это же Фуллер можно и без сцепления.
Im currently going through tractor trailer school and my worst part is downshifting when getting off the freeway at exit ramps. And at times downshifting to 4th gear when approaching a red light. How long does it normally take to get used to shifting a 10 speed?
It depends on the person. Considering this is 7 years old, I'm assuming you've figured it out by now
@@Leprechaun_of_Maryland yes. I also learned tricks from my trainer as well. I even learned how to shift without use of the clutch and it's much easier than double clutch
That's fun at how many rpm do you shift a 10gears semi
I love how you bump up the accelerator to maintain shifting rpm...nice video.
My 03 International is really low an the low side...I can start off in fourth with no trouble...Third with a bit of a load on...
And how does a modern truck NOT require double clutching? According to eaton-fuller, double clutching is part of standard operating procedure.
is this a feed truck because it looks like my dads
@ussenterp65
You can in fact drive a truck at age 18+ You just can't go out of state until you turn 21, at least such is the law in Washington state, and apparently were this InaboxPayne is located as well.
Where is the trailer brake valve?
@tundra161 But I love the sound of diesel engines, gasoline engines are too quiet and too complicated
Home Depot truck?
Is this truck a Freghtlines M2???
Now see, this video right here answered a long running question of a training driver like myself. (not at school yet) "How the fuck do you double clutch?"
why start in 1st (granny) gear? i only did if i had a heavy load or i am on snow/ice
no sync double clutch ?
Looks like it for me
What are you hauling?
So you can return the splitter to "Lo" while in neutral while coasting without any damage? Also, when is double clutching recommended/preferred over just floating the gears with no clutch?
you're just pre-selecting the gear when you're in neutral, it's not until you press the clutch and go into gear that you actually go into the low half
Evan Berwick You really only have to use the clutch when starting and stopping, now if you want to have your ankle/foot in pain all the time then yes you can clutch anytime you want to. There is really no limit on when and where you can use clutch to shift.
most drivers dont use the clutch if you have a reasonably old one youll never be able to get it in gear if you touch the clutch
An app called shiftpoint helps new truck drivers in shifting gears. please have a look. It is in TH-cam.
In your bloody dreams, a driver knows when to shift by the tone of the engine the slope how well the vehicle is moving and that requires experience , NOT some Dopey phone App
mozzmann The app is for new truck drivers, not for the experienced ones.
Apptech 23 Again I reiterate that NO app is going to help where an experienced trainer is far superior at imparting knowledge. IMHO some app is going to simply make more problems for operator's when we really need a global data base of experienced retired operator's who want to pass on their knowledge and experience. THAT is how your going to save Lives and Fuel and make the transport industry more efficient and safe.
Well, by "use the clutch in cars," I guess you really mean "use the clutch to shift in consumer vehicles," right?
Well, that's interesting, because it looked like double-clutching this truck makes it just about as automatic a "let-in" as single-clutching a consumer vehicle is. Does it (other than making ya tired sooner)?
what truck? SISU? Mercedecs? :) Good driving :)
Well guys he's not driving a semi.If he was there would be a red knob next to the yellow knob on the dash. He's most likely driving a vocational truck. cement truck . garbage truck ect ect. and he chooses the use the clutch instead of floating the gears big deal its his knees
@wx5nco u don't have to im a trucker and i dont i just use the clutch 1ns and thas all
like no bote double clutch just if u are a begginer. so yeah
were u double clutching?
i drive a 10 speed n the only time I used the clutch is when I take of
Yeah, and reverse.
is this a strait truck? i don't see the red trailer air supply
Yeah must be a straight truck. I don't see the red emergency air supply either.
It's not an "emergency air supply" it's for the spring brakes, when you pull it, it actually releases air and applies the spring brakes, its designed for parking, not an emergency brake. And yes this is a straight truck.
it might be a dump truck
It's a sterling. Most likely a dump truck or flatbed with forklift loader on the rear. Sounds like a 3406 too
what number on the RPM should a noob driver change gears and should I push on the accelerator to shift?
What truck Is?
Coasting to the light in neutral or the clutch depressed is a no no.
How do you double clutch?
Aint nobody got time for that
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@@kuldeepbadaisha2477 enis
Do you have to double clutch? because I dont I drive a freightliner
Non-synchro transmission have to be driven double clutching...You can work with only one clutch (out the stick on fuel realease and in with clutch) ou without clutch... In fact on a non-synchro transmission the clutch is only for starting and secure de transmission...You do the synchronisation... Not like the synchro transmission on a car... But down shifting is a little more challenging cause you must know the rpm when you leaving and the rpm when you put it in...Everything that mak normal car annoying to drive
It's better to double clutch for the sake of the engine, and trucks are different just in the fact that everything is up against a mack, one of the weirdest ones to shift due to the rpms.
No you don't have to double clutch, although the manufacture recommends that you do. You can float them if your road speed and engine rpms match. If it goes into gear without you feeling and hearing any grinding you are doing it correctly.