There is nothing like standing on parade in Winchester, the bass drum kicks in and you have a quick breath before stepping off at the double. Priceless.
The "Double" is a stylised version of a battle movement so may appear to some as a "funny march" but had deadly serious origins (same applies to other aspects of British Army drill) - a point to note is that the buglers also serve as rifleman within their battalions as can be verified by the various campaign medals being worn. Celer et Audax
@@Brightstarlivesteam The bandsman are part of The Royal Corps of Army Music and are posted to the various badged bands. The buglers, pipers & drummers are part of the relevant regiments.
@@johnsabini3351 Correct. The Buglers on camp are usually volunteers (to get out of phys or some other dog sh*t tasking normally) but they are very much soldiers first. Band and Bugles of the Rifles however are very much a skilled band and have their own camps (i forget where). But they are very highly decorated. I am biased as an ex-Rifleman but the British Armies other bands are also made up of some front-line soldiers that are skilled and/or decorated. Love the history of the Rifles. Simple men, called up / volunteered to provide their skills (mainly the proper soldier stuff like recces and skirmishing!) Moving quickly, wearing green instead of red and thinking for themselves as a squad. Thinking Rifleman. Swift and Bold, John. I get the hint you're Light Infanteer yourself. I must say however, I wasn't much impressed by the performance in this video. I have seen them do MUCH better!
@@giantrobot5804 Hello GR, for the record was ex 3GJ/3RGJ (RB). I think the bands were better when part of the regiment/battalion as opposed to current system of being a corps and then allocated as required, but maybe I am drifting into old git mode?
In my time as a youth cadet (Canadian), I rarely get to double while in platoon. It is so much fun, however, and especially with a rifle at the port. Though, as many have already stated, to which I can confirm, it takes many, many hours on the parade square with your drill instructors correcting every little thing to get that good.
british army also has the oldest recruitment office it is over 200 years old it is in nepal if i remember rightly it is where all the local gurkhas sign up that is if it is still open that is
@@SvenTviking it depends on what you call silly. They originated in the Napoleonic wars were normal infantry plodding along could not get around the battlefield fast enough to reinforce threatened sectors. So they carefully selected and trained specialist Light Infantry equipped with rifles and moving at double the normal marching speed to fill the role. Hence the tradition of the silly march. Incidentally, the Italian Bersaglieri march at an even faster pace.
The regiment is and was (RGJ) always known for no bullshit and not behaving like the rest of the rest of the British army so there were no long drill times. We had a time frame and had to get it right. It was up to us as individuals to go away and put in the extra time needed. That was for everything we did. That's why we were one of the few or only regiment to think for ourselves and come up with better ideas as a Rifleman.
Here are the facts, The Double has nothing to do with navigation. It created as a way to advance at a faster speed to surprise or engage with regular enemy rifle units: See: The Rifles compared to the Army standard of 120 paces, and retains the custom of the 'double past' on ceremonial parades. We never slow march. In addition, by doubling five paces and then marching five paces, it was found that distances could be covered quickly.
In Spain we have the "paso ligero/light step", also called "tercien" and it's the same. Actually I have seen some videos of british infrantry marching songs and bugles and they all sound so familiar. Kind of weird as we were "enemies" for centuries. 😆 th-cam.com/video/uFnIxXjeuys/w-d-xo.html
Ex rgj we had a few scrapes with the li but was more like inter regiment rivalry the respect was there on both sides has a few lads who transferred from the li and vice versa to be called a rifleman is the greatest honour there is ask a gurkha
Sometimes it pretty difficult watching the double as it's difficult and easy to lose step or formation. But these guys did a really good job. Tends to be the band's that are better at it. Guess they practice more. Great stuff to watch though....
It's quintessentially a British thing to do. To retreat in style rather than panic and end up in a rout. Stiff upper lip - that sort of thing, when deep down one is scared shitless. One has to remember how crucial it is to be seen years later as heroic grandad in front of the grandchildren?
@@williamrance5086 the way that they all form up gives my that feeling that they are reforming and their Commander is telling them Right lads let's get stuck in it's beautiful I wish we had something like that in the U.S
Tom Thumb Considering the majority of these military traditions have only been existing for a very short stretch of time in the entirety of human history, the question to ask should instead be so what if they disappear. Traditions do evolve, and news ones do appear, even when you’re long gone, whether you like it or not, and which renders your so called factual events utterly irrelevant. So in the larger scheme of things, you’re still wrong to even lament about it.
@@alvindurochermtl The past is our future and we're fine with the present. So lets not change a thing. You don't mind if we change the future back again before it starts do you?
It is called Beating Retreat ( as in beating of drums, to indicate a return to barracks at the end of a day. The Rifles however use bugles, rather than drums ). en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beating_retreat
@tommy atkins it's from a show called Sharpe it's about the 95th rifles regiment the main character had a group of riflemen called chosen men usually they were the best shots of the unit
See: The Rifles compared to the Army standard of 120 paces, and retains the custom of the 'double past' on ceremonial parades. We never slow march. In addition, by doubling five paces and then marching five paces, it was found that distances could be covered quickly.
Tradition - they were formed 200 years ago as Light Infantry trained to move at double the normal pace, to reinforce threatened sections quickly - hence the "funny" march.
Because it's confused with a skit from Monty Pythons Flying Circus. ALL tall men doing the funny walks / marches looking Jkhn Clees. I am ex-RGJ loved marching and doubling at 140 - but NOW VIDEOED it looks ridiculous, a parody and lacking g style and pride of presence / dignity. I was embarrassed- still a proud 1GJB 43rd &52nd though.
We don't do this in the Canadian Military. I have been binge watching it ever since I saw it. Must be difficult in dress uniforms. I would expect my medals to fall off.
Cole Thornton Yeah buddy,try jogging in step,in beat to a rhythm whilst maintaining the formation.Takes hours to drill as good as they have,and they don’t have much time since they don’t spend all time on drill as they are soldiers.
The dressing is not very good, compared to the old days when they were Light Infantry Regiments. Still, hard work for those bugles. When they have to play at that speed, it takes a lot out of your lips.
Rifle Regiments went on to the battlefield at 120 beats per minute and were moved frequently and quickly, which is why they double-time. It's not dancing.
Most of the Rifle traditions go back to units from the Napoleonic wars. Those units used rifles instead of muskets and dressed in green uniforms, as a kind of camouflage. A few traditions even refer to the US War of Independence. At that time, a few German Jäger units fought for the British. The signalhorn and the one or other musical influence come from them. The Bersaglieri were formed later in the 1830s.
The British celebrating retreat? From whom? Oh, from their German overlords, the House of Saxe-Coburg-Gotha! Would that the noble downtrodden English run their "masters" all the way to Dover, and put them into a couple of rowboats with two sandwiches and a chart.
Sounding or beating retreat origins are not about withdrawing in the face of the enemy but closing down a garrison town or post at dusk - Google it should give you the background. It has now evolved into a form "regimental" celebration. I went to the 2016 "Sounding of Retreat" it was brilliant!
John Sabini eh don’t pay the ignorant trolls mind,he’ll probably be doing the same in another video.It’s like trying to reason with a flat earther or anti vaxxer.
There is nothing like standing on parade in Winchester, the bass drum kicks in and you have a quick breath before stepping off at the double. Priceless.
The "double" was traditionally used when the mess hall was serving bangers and mash for the evening meal.
Or half price beer in The NAAFI!
Or they were going for their NAAFI break
0.19 The veterans in their blazers and ties joining in. Once you have been been in a regiment you can never forget it, it becomes part of your soul.
The "Double" is a stylised version of a battle movement so may appear to some as a "funny march" but had deadly serious origins (same applies to other aspects of British Army drill) - a point to note is that the buglers also serve as rifleman within their battalions as can be verified by the various campaign medals being worn. Celer et Audax
That not unusual, as most Bands men and Pipers are also infantry men!
@@Brightstarlivesteam The bandsman are part of The Royal Corps of Army Music and are posted to the various badged bands. The buglers, pipers & drummers are part of the relevant regiments.
@@johnsabini3351 Correct. The Buglers on camp are usually volunteers (to get out of phys or some other dog sh*t tasking normally) but they are very much soldiers first. Band and Bugles of the Rifles however are very much a skilled band and have their own camps (i forget where). But they are very highly decorated. I am biased as an ex-Rifleman but the British Armies other bands are also made up of some front-line soldiers that are skilled and/or decorated. Love the history of the Rifles. Simple men, called up / volunteered to provide their skills (mainly the proper soldier stuff like recces and skirmishing!) Moving quickly, wearing green instead of red and thinking for themselves as a squad. Thinking Rifleman. Swift and Bold, John. I get the hint you're Light Infanteer yourself. I must say however, I wasn't much impressed by the performance in this video. I have seen them do MUCH better!
@@giantrobot5804 Ex 3 RGJ (RB) 1966 onwards - how about you?
@@giantrobot5804 Hello GR, for the record was ex 3GJ/3RGJ (RB). I think the bands were better when part of the regiment/battalion as opposed to current system of being a corps and then allocated as required, but maybe I am drifting into old git mode?
I remember doing double time in the SLI 1958 l was 19 then l am 81 now wish l could do it now good old national service
In my time as a youth cadet (Canadian), I rarely get to double while in platoon. It is so much fun, however, and especially with a rifle at the port. Though, as many have already stated, to which I can confirm, it takes many, many hours on the parade square with your drill instructors correcting every little thing to get that good.
I love the light infantry. I bet it's so difficult to get the double to look this goid
tout croche
In Spain also have this "double", exactly the same, we call it "tercien/terciar/paso ligero"
Brilliant. This is what the British Army is all about. History, strength and honout to your country
british army also has the oldest recruitment office it is over 200 years old it is in nepal if i remember rightly it is where all the local gurkhas sign up that is if it is still open that is
And a silly march!
@@SvenTviking it depends on what you call silly. They originated in the Napoleonic wars were normal infantry plodding along could not get around the battlefield fast enough to reinforce threatened sectors. So they carefully selected and trained specialist Light Infantry equipped with rifles and moving at double the normal marching speed to fill the role. Hence the tradition of the silly march. Incidentally, the Italian Bersaglieri march at an even faster pace.
These are Canadians bud.
It takes HOURS on the drill square to be that good.! Respect!
Hours aren't exactly a long timeframe.
Try weeks and months!
The regiment is and was (RGJ) always known for no bullshit and not behaving like the rest of the rest of the British army so there were no long drill times. We had a time frame and had to get it right. It was up to us as individuals to go away and put in the extra time needed. That was for everything we did. That's why we were one of the few or only regiment to think for ourselves and come up with better ideas as a Rifleman.
Weeks my friend
"Bugle Major!" "Sir!" "Who ate all the pies?"
I am so proud of our Army! all of you ..respect!
The songs called keel row/road to the isle
00:30 Me and the bois when they declare the bar open
First Rounds on me
R. I. P. Major Bobby Mitchell.. 1959-1999. Good leader and oppo to us all..
To those who were thinking it's funny. The Rifles worked on rough terrain and the double formation was useful to navigate.
Here are the facts, The Double has nothing to do with navigation. It created as a way to advance at a faster speed to surprise or engage with regular enemy rifle units: See: The Rifles compared to the Army standard of 120 paces, and retains the custom of the 'double past' on ceremonial parades. We never slow march. In addition, by doubling five paces and then marching five paces, it was found that distances could be covered quickly.
Let me guess...reactions of Americans ??
In Spain we have the "paso ligero/light step", also called "tercien" and it's the same.
Actually I have seen some videos of british infrantry marching songs and bugles and they all sound so familiar. Kind of weird as we were "enemies" for centuries. 😆
th-cam.com/video/uFnIxXjeuys/w-d-xo.html
Ex rgj we had a few scrapes with the li but was more like inter regiment rivalry the respect was there on both sides has a few lads who transferred from the li and vice versa to be called a rifleman is the greatest honour there is ask a gurkha
Sometimes it pretty difficult watching the double as it's difficult and easy to lose step or formation. But these guys did a really good job. Tends to be the band's that are better at it. Guess they practice more. Great stuff to watch though....
Respect to the Rifles and Gurkhas! I'd hate having to put up with a PT session on the drill square. It's very hard to drill at this pace.
Takes a sold 36 hours of regiment parade and experience to march like the rifes
Respect Brothers In Arms.
Celer Et Audax
Proud
Best in the world
Whats the music played here??
If done property looks great.
Sir John Moore’s quickstep.
Anyone have a link to where this is played away from the parade ground?
Get the CD.. The Light Division music or The Rifles music
Here are them doing it through Salisbury
th-cam.com/video/bMBliu6CKsM/w-d-xo.html
Always think of Richard Sharpe when I see rifle regiment
Respect
Even in retreat you Brits have style.
It's quintessentially a British thing to do. To retreat in style rather than panic and end up in a rout. Stiff upper lip - that sort of thing, when deep down one is scared shitless. One has to remember how crucial it is to be seen years later as heroic grandad in front of the grandchildren?
@@williamrance5086 the way that they all form up gives my that feeling that they are reforming and their Commander is telling them Right lads let's get stuck in it's beautiful I wish we had something like that in the U.S
What is the tune please?
I think it’s Keel Row
The Keel Row followed by Road to the Isles
this is my old regiment they were called the light infantry
And mine swift and bold
And mine! Swift and bold
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The ministry of funny walks sounding "run away" 😏😁
My Cousins Husband is in the Rifles , the music is the same as the Gurkas, when they do their display.
Yeah as they are both light infantry. 🙂
Oh it's rifles
I love the kepis
They are called Rifle Caps a form of Busby
Shame all this will be lost in 100 years time as the UK as we know it fades.
Too bad you won't be here in 100 years to see how wrong you are.
@@MarsFKA Perception based on factual events at the time dictates I'm right
Tom Thumb Considering the majority of these military traditions have only been existing for a very short stretch of time in the entirety of human history, the question to ask should instead be so what if they disappear. Traditions do evolve, and news ones do appear, even when you’re long gone, whether you like it or not, and which renders your so called factual events utterly irrelevant. So in the larger scheme of things, you’re still wrong to even lament about it.
@@alvindurochermtl The past is our future and we're fine with the present. So lets not change a thing. You don't mind if we change the future back again before it starts do you?
In 100 years have Muslim UK and a Mexican US. Should make for a nice war
A hundred bugles of the queens royal rifles is the best sound in the world
What song they played on the running march?
The Keel Row. I'm not sure about the second one though.
Second march is "Road to the Isles"
Dummy Account it's not running, it's called the double
@@chewbacca0412 well said its called the double
It's called keel row/road to the isle , the double is the movement the buglers are doing not the song
140 a minute. My feet and knees ache just thinking about drilling this 🤣
Actually, the march "Keel Row", the one being played here, is played at 180 paces a minute.
what's the march?
It is called Beating Retreat ( as in beating of drums, to indicate a return to barracks at the end of a day. The Rifles however use bugles, rather than drums ). en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beating_retreat
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Which battalions’ bugles took part?
It’s the massed bands and bugles. So I’m assuming all of them?
It was The Rifles. They use bugles instead of drums to Beat The Retreat.
@@ataxpayer723 Yeah thanks Sherlock
"Chosen men" respect.
@tommy atkins it's from a show called Sharpe it's about the 95th rifles regiment the main character had a group of riflemen called chosen men usually they were the best shots of the unit
Raymond Hamill It’s not just from the TV show
All I ever hear since Rug Dokter got steamed himself.
Britannia!!!!!!
Gopping
It’s weird how this looks so stupid but impressive at the same time
See: The Rifles compared to the Army standard of 120 paces, and retains the custom of the 'double past' on ceremonial parades. We never slow march. In addition, by doubling five paces and then marching five paces, it was found that distances could be covered quickly.
Marching at that pace. Makes me wonder how they have any breath to blow their bugles
Nombre de la marcha
It's called "keel row" march of the light infantry.
Being a ex 2RGJ I think I've done that 40yrs ago
so true 2rgj forward
And you did it a lot better. Pity that the standards have slipped so much.
Also ex 2RGJ.
Celer Et Audax
Only in Britain can we do this march forward as heroes lads and not forgetting our wonderful military lasses
And look at the virgin American troops compared to our chad British soldiers
What unit is this? Infantry of some sort, eh?
The Regiment is The Rifles - 5 Regular Battalions & 3 Reserve Battalions
Tradition - they were formed 200 years ago as Light Infantry trained to move at double the normal pace, to reinforce threatened sections quickly - hence the "funny" march.
Whats this Monty Python....😀😃😉
Wheres my Guardsman.
Did I just see vets on the square
i thought this was a parody skit. But it is real - lol
Rifle Regiment double-time marching.
Because it's confused with a skit from Monty Pythons Flying Circus. ALL tall men doing the funny walks / marches looking Jkhn Clees. I am ex-RGJ loved marching and doubling at 140 - but NOW VIDEOED it looks ridiculous, a parody and lacking g style and pride of presence / dignity. I was embarrassed- still a proud 1GJB 43rd &52nd though.
We don't do this in the Canadian Military. I have been binge watching it ever since I saw it. Must be difficult in dress uniforms. I would expect my medals to fall off.
What you get medal for
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So HOT!...
Ehh, without being disrespectful, but the music and the movements remind me of a Monthy Python slapping fish scene.
Chosen Men
Shouldn't they be in straight lines? Doesn't seem right to me.
Cole Thornton Yeah buddy,try jogging in step,in beat to a rhythm whilst maintaining the formation.Takes hours to drill as good as they have,and they don’t have much time since they don’t spend all time on drill as they are soldiers.
Imagine if that's how they actually retreated 😂🤦♂️
sounding retreat ? doesn't this sound like "sound the double".
"Sounding Retreat" was the overall parade/event - other units, for example The Brigade of Guards "Beat Retreat"
look like Indian army, and never retreat
Monty Python and The Holy Grail. LOL
The dressing is not very good, compared to the old days when they were Light Infantry Regiments. Still, hard work for those bugles. When they have to play at that speed, it takes a lot out of your lips.
😂
I would rather see them marching than dancing.
Rifle Regiments went on to the battlefield at 120 beats per minute and were moved frequently and quickly, which is why they double-time. It's not dancing.
@@WootTootZoot It was 140 per min & 180 per min for the double
That cadence is extremely difficult to pinpoint in accuracy.. takes hours of parade ...
That dressing needs attention
Did you learn your dressing from the RAF Regt of something guys...not a good representation of the British Army dressing
They call those baby steps marching at the double? Line infantry and cover more ground marching at 80 paces a minute!
embarrassing - look up 10 years earlier !
Fully Agree and old enough to remember! th-cam.com/video/hxkyL2kDM0M/w-d-xo.html
Agreed Gwyn
YesGwyn. Standards have slipped greatly in 10 years. So much for the cuts and amalgamation.I remember the days of KSLI, and RGJ.
Shoddy line dressing.
Not a straight line in sight. Bring back the Shrewsbury days..... all straight and proper then
Z
FFS!!!
Their dressing went to shit and some the younger ones dont seem to have the ideal step.
This is a copy of Italian Bersaglieri.
Most of the Rifle traditions go back to units from the Napoleonic wars. Those units used rifles instead of muskets and dressed in green uniforms, as a kind of camouflage. A few traditions even refer to the US War of Independence. At that time, a few German Jäger units fought for the British. The signalhorn and the one or other musical influence come from them. The Bersaglieri were formed later in the 1830s.
Shame they didn't take the time to learn to dress right, sloppy buggers.
David Howley
+ What!
The point is they are different and speed is more important than dressing lines. Read some history please.
The British celebrating retreat? From whom? Oh, from their German overlords, the House of Saxe-Coburg-Gotha! Would that the noble downtrodden English run their "masters" all the way to Dover, and put them into a couple of rowboats with two sandwiches and a chart.
Sounding or beating retreat origins are not about withdrawing in the face of the enemy but closing down a garrison town or post at dusk - Google it should give you the background. It has now evolved into a form "regimental" celebration. I went to the 2016 "Sounding of Retreat" it was brilliant!
John Sabini eh don’t pay the ignorant trolls mind,he’ll probably be doing the same in another video.It’s like trying to reason with a flat earther or anti vaxxer.
If you were educated then you would know most British are Anglo-Saxon, like our royal family.......so fuck off...
Very sorry and I know what a crack unit they are but it looks rather silly!
I thought only the French were well trained at surrender!
I would rather see them march than dance!!!
Terry Sole disrespectful, read your history,,,
The rifles have 2 paces...quick time and dawdle