Delta Launches for Last Time, Falcon Boosts Lands for 20th Time - Deep Space Updates
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Wow, Ed Dwight is 90 years old. He was already 24 when Sputnik launched, and almost 36 when Apollo 11 landed on the Moon. This man has been an adult for the entirety of the Space Age.
I hope when Im 90 Im a fraction as mentally sound and sharp as he is
He probably would've flew back then - JFK want him in - if Chuck Yeager wasn't such a racist and kicked him out of the program. Yeager's white colleges said Yeager was "a piece of work"
Fun fact: during the Angara launch, a PA announcement requesting a truck driver to move his/her vehicle somehow leaked into Roskosmos' live video feed. Of course, the truck (its make and partial license plate to be exact - UAZ 695) and the anonymous driver immediately became a meme among Russian space aficionados.
lol
Would've been funnier if it was a 452.
@@Neuttah Chances are really good that it was a 452 "Buchanka", but it wouldn't have made sense in the announcement.
Scott, have you made the Dornier DO-31 in KSP yet? 😉
Contract for accurate Clocks to communicate in space, sound too similar to Britain's competition for accurate clocks for navigating the high seas. We leveled up i guess.
Actually it is very much the same thing. It's all about navigation. It's fascinating that our instruments and technology are so precise that relativistic effects affect them even at the miniscule percentages of C we operate at.
Their problem was that they needed an accurate clock.
Our problem is that we need a system that uses clocks that run at different speeds.
It should be EST. We own the moon. It's our flag on that rock. And don't give me that international Space Agreement. We never ratified it so it doesn't apply to us.
@@ericf5978 LOL Good luck keeping Lunar Standard Time in sync with _any_ time zone on Earth.
@jpdemer5 I'm glad I made you laugh. It was half joke and half serious. We did not ratify the treaty and I am tired of people mentioning that.
If the JAXA rover doesn't turn into a mech I will be disappointed.
Has to be thought controlled too
It's already a transformer toy in Japan.
Get in the rover Shinji
Unfortunately we have as of Yet found any Kaijuu bodies to repurpose into mechs.
Delta IV (heavy)'s signature scorch of hydrogen was such a special scene to see...
we'll miss ya, Delta IV Heavy. o7
Why u making millions off it? It's just been another Ukraine billion dollar money pit
@@davidmoore8741 bot
@@davidmoore8741 It’s an iconic rocket. Is a space/ rocket enthusiast not allowed to be bummed that it’s now retired?
@@AM-rd9puNope, gotta drink the space x kool-aid. Can't appreciate the history or awesomeness of something if it isn't space x.
@@davidmoore8741 What does Ukraine have to do with a 1950s launch vehicle family?
Love how Scott rips through the launches. Can't wait until they're so frequent that it doesn't pay to keep track!
He ripped through his trousers at 14:33
We may approach that point in two to three years or so. Think Falcon 9 Block 5, Starship of some permutation, New Glenn, Rocket Lab, Vulcan Centaur, and even Ariane 6. Then add in the launch cadence of China in total.
Love the launch news 💓
Please don't hold your breath for Musk Mars missions though
TH-camr and scientist thunderfoot has reported on their consistent failures and missed deadlines
The project is looking more and more like Elizabeth Holmes Theranos wonder tech company,
which eventually turned out to be a swindle to suckle on govt and investor funding
@@snipelite94lol. Lmao, even. Thunderfoot is so misguided and confused about spaceflight, this has been demonstrated countless times.
The starlink launches are a waste of news time. At this point who really cares.
I can so see Scott nerding out in the airport when he saw that launch going on!
I suspect he kept his composure, since he was on a landing plane. 😅
Always looking forward to your updates, no clickbait, straight to the point. That's why you're the best following since the early kerbsl days
That pressurized rover concept looks pretty dang good, Toyota badges aside, it looks like a the right mix of practical and sci-fi.
Those aren't just badges. Toyota is designing it.
Looks like it took a lot of design language from NASA's Multi-Mission Surface Exploration Vehicle (MMSEV) concept.
That's a good thing, that was a great concept that NASA unfortunately had to can as part of the cancellation of the Constellation program (which only happened because of the 2008 financial crisis).
The MMSEV design was also adaptable into an orbital spacecraft with removal of ground-motive systems and addition of RCS and an engine. Likely an AJ10 derived engine and hypergolic RCS would be selected, but if higher Delta-V was needed they could also have looked into taking lessons from the Centaur ACES concept and using hydrolox with long loiter time abilities instead, or even taken parts of the Constellation Lunar Lander propulsion system which was planned to use Methalox due to it being easier to store liquid methane than liquid hydrogen, while still having higher per-mass performance than Hypergolic systems.
Hopefully, the United States could build one domestically for a backup or just having the capability to make more for future missions
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It's not like it's a one-time deal, and it's not like Japan is going anywhere anytime soon (they survived 2 second sunrises, which is more than I can say about the US), so I think that mandating domestic production of it is a fantastic way to kill the program prematurely.
Getting it to look good is just a matter of adding a bunch of clip-on decorative plastic crap on top of the vehicle. But that's the thing, space flight has no weight budget for decorative crap.
"try not to squish those little tubes" haha 23:30
12:25 “… like those space plebs like on Apollo 11” 😂
Can we get some info on that ISS battery that hit that guy's house?
It was a pin that held the battery array in place.
Oh man that’s a story that fell through the cracks….. or rather punched through as it fell from space.
@@ThatOpalGuy That explains why it was able to survive re-entry.
@@ThatOpalGuy ..and it was made from steel
@@AluminumOxide It was Inconel, not steel.
I just spotted ‘Numerical recipes in C’ on the shelf. Loved that book. Back in the 90’s I used it as a reference to make an FFT algorithm.
I bought a copy a few years ago because of nostalgia. I intend to go through it again 😊
TH-cam auto-generated subtitles thought "Baikonur" was "boner"...lol
maybe that is the translation? lol
@@ThatOpalGuy rockets are, after all, inherently phallic
@@ThatOpalGuyI mean rockets do look like boners
I mean rockets _are_ a little phalic.
*stares straight into funny Amazon man’s soul*
I think TH-cam changed something in their voice recognition software. It started to drop syllables some time ago.
Maybe that's this new cool AI stuff everybody is talking about.
Adios Delta Heavy 😢
Is the thumbnail a reference to the "Rawhide" theme song? Damn, I feel old!
It is, and I’m glad somebody got it.
You may be old, but you’re clearly cool.
@@scottmanley I've rarely been considered cool, so thank you. Obviously, it takes years to develop rockets and spacecraft. But some of the American programs are perceived, perhaps falsely, to be making progress at a much slower pace than others in the U.S. and worldwide. Have you ever done a video looking into the possible reasons?
Hmmmm - I must be seeing a different thumbnail - I have seen plenty of Rawhide and don't see it.
@@cylonred8902 The thumbnail on his website reads "roving, roving, roving ..." But the one in this comment thread says "the final countdown" [EDIT: It no longer does]. Strange.
I thought it was a limp bizkit ref
In 1975, on the episode Breakaway, of a show called Space: 1999, they had lunar time.
I somehow saw starlink 8-1 all the way from New Mexico. The lighting was just right and only saw the second stage but still astounding it was visible from that far East.
late 90s driving west on I10 just past Lordsburg NM at sunset the CB came alive with excited truckers talking about the streaking ''cloud" on the horizon. I thought it looked like a Vandernburg missle launch (grew up in SoCal) but was astounded to see this from New Mexico.
Thanks for the updates Scott!
I love this channel. The informative narration combined with the visuals is absolutely perfect. Not to mention having only one ad break in the middle is the perfect balance between balancing ad revenue and watchability. I won't mention another user's channel name here but they had SIX ad breaks in the span of their 15 minute video.
(In the event that more comments helps with your analytics, i posted this as a separate comment)
Virgin Galactic: "Heck, we were afraid to use it because we couldn't trust the doors wouldn't fall off."
Starliner is a cool thing to see upclose, way heavier than i though it would be, but its crazy to work next to something that flew in space.
You forgot to mention that Angara launched from Vostochny cosmodrome, for the very first time
And fourth launch of Angara 5 too. They had a partial failure of Plesei upper stage in the last test flight, in December of 2021, so needed to get back in the game so to speak.
@@michaeldunne338Persei upper stage. Orion is a version with a new engine (?), all using Kerolox not hypergolics like the Briz-M.
@@johnmoruzzi7236 I thought the European Service Module for Orion used hpergolics with the AJ10 engine?
Also Angara will be used to deliver next Russian space station to orbit and whats more, most of the Russian space station modules are already in metal, not just some beautiful 3d graphinks like some other countries, what makes me nervous about their space program future
@@user-bx8zh2xc2z Thales Alenia Space is currently constructing Axiom Space's AxH1 module.
As for the Russian modules, NEM-1 was supposed to go to the ISS. Supposedly it now has a timeline of 1 to 2 years for redesign/rework. Which of the three other modules are currently under construction?
Thanks for all the news, Scott! 😊
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
Thank you for another excellent update!
Wow! A Japanese Astronaut to go to the moon! That is VERY exciting. This level of cooperation between national space agencies is very exciting and holds a lot of promise, and I am all here for it.
if we have that much time. remember the robots are coming
United Arab Emirates also want an astronaut on the Moon; India will send "Vyomonauts" on their own spacecraft and China/Russia have the "International Lunar Research Station" consortium to cater for their friends.
EVERYONE is going to the Moon; there's too much money to be made not to go.
🇮🇳🇨🇳🇷🇺🚀🌚💲💲💲
@@mrpicky1868Yeah, and we're gonna use them to maintain space stations when we aren't there. Take the Valkyrie project by NASA, for example
Yeah cooperation from a country that still blame us for the war they started and haven't apologized to their honorable acts in East Asia, good candidate to represent humanity, atleast I hope their rover is better, the lack of competition better mean something
Every Kerbal rocket I ever made looks like a Delta IV Heavy. I dunno if I am ashamed or cool.
In my book your cool. Just because I worked on Delta for over 5 years😊
ESA has been working on a "Lunar time" for about a year now collaborating, among others, with NASA. So, NASA has been tasked to do what they already have been doing for a year now? Unless this comes with an assigned budget for the task, this announcement sounds more like "show business " than anything substantial.
You know it wasn’t joes idea. He has a hard time selecting ice cream.
The Toyota rover looks like the vehicle from the 70’s tv show Ark 2.
Very interesting and thorough.
Thanks again Scott.
I so love that concept of looking at StarCity in a spinoff series. Awesome!!
Thank you Scott. Another information filled episode. Enjoyed it
One of the best. Thanks Scott!
Given Boeing's track record in recent years, I wouldn't be in the least surprised if their work for Virgin Galactic *was* garbage.
22:05 "If you're not first, you're last" Ricky Bobby
Drag racer's meme: second is just being first loser.
The itsy bitsy demonstrator alongside a weight simulator... How crazy would it be to offer FREE launch (for things like grad student projects) wherever a mass simulator is used? Project risk is high, but the price is right.
It's like giving away expired food for free. Seems like a good idea until you realize you're actively spreading a source of disease. Same thing with free launches on test vehicles: it can and expected to fail, and there's a very good chance that someone's PhD thesis will go down in flames.
SpaceX needs to donate a launch leader Falcon 9 to the Smithsonian.
YES!
it wouldnt be a launch leader for very long
@@WeirdSeagul hmm, true. Maybe when the Falcon 9 retires.
@@WeirdSeagul Maybe the should donate the first booster one to retire from old age?
Actually, what I'm kinda wondering if we will see is if SpaceX switches to an accelerated lifetime testing program at some point? Ship a high cycle booster to TX, build a launch and landing pad there and start doing daily/weekly hops with water tanks on top until something fails.
+1
I love your updates. Does not matter how often!
Looking forward to an ICE engine on the Moon! (12:50). "Oh, what a feeling!"
Great video as always!
Thank you for not diving in to the time dialition and relativity in this. I've watched Veritasium and Vsauce on the topic and my brain is still hurting.
I like the drawing over your left hand shoulder
4:58 I was thinking of the same thing - the Delta V for SLS
Great summary, Scott.
Gotta say....seeing the Eclipse was cool.... seeing the Eclipse in my backyard... with my wife, my daughter, AND my parents.....now, THAT....was....actually, no words exist to describe what an amazingly awesome experience it was !!!!
😂 "there is no hi-five in space!"... Scott Manley. Precious obsevation 24:09
The enemy's gate is down!
it's more than a little cool that JAXA and Toyota are teaming up to build the pressurized rover for future lunar missions. JAXA has been laboring away, doing important science in space, but it rarely gets any coverage outside of Japan. maybe this will be their chance to shine on the world stage. good luck to them.
Those Delta IV Heavy pictures....omg, what a eye candy! I said that any times, I'm gonna miss her. So bad!
Great. Time zones on this planet were already hard enough in programming, let alone on other planets and each of their individual moons.
I think the Olson (TZ) DB needs an extension for different speeds of time now. Great, one more field to parse and understand. I had hoped to never touch my TZDB parser code again.
The only kind of new I am really excited to hear
Oh the pressurized rover news is huge! I can't believe I didn't hear about it sooner!
Howdy from Temple, Texas, USA!
My body is most definitely ready for the FAMcu!
Great recao, and pnce more so much enthusiasm!!! 😎🙏🇩🇪
24:00 when is space a high-five becomes the highest-five. whew! solved that problem so everyone, you can rest easy.
Keep em coming
That moon mission is a pipedream but I can tolerate an enthusiast's enthusiasm.
Glad I didn’t go to Planetary Society event looking for you. Eclipse was amazing south east of Dallas.
9:21 "An Earth-based clock loses 59 microseconds", per what? Hour, Earth Day, Earth Year?
Yeah, i need answers. if it is 59microsecnods per year, why bother with it you can do a correction every month and it wont matter much. If it is per day then it is a problem.
Per Day ;-)
According to wikipedia (Coordinated Lunar Time article) it is per day. Losing less than a few milliseconds per day is not a problem for a computer network - PC clocks lose or gain much more all the time and the speed of the Operating system clock can be adjusted to correct for that. It is however a big problem if you want to do navigation or astronomy - both require super precise clocks. Light travels about 1770m in 59µs - this gives you an extreme deviation for GPS-like location tracking and very inaccurate speeds for doppler-based measurements.
That Carbon Monoxide rocket idea has another advantage if it's all built into a single lander:
You already have the capacity to move gases around, which enables use of said gas for things other than making more propellant for the rocket.
Things such as cleaning dust and other deposited materials off the solar panels to restore power generation, if martian winds don't do that for you adequately.
For ISRU you are going to need nuclear power, especially if you want to do fast sample return.
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Fast is a relative thing, you're not gonna ISRU the fuel you need to get to orbit in the ~40ish sols you have between the Earth-Mars arrival window and the nearest Mars-Earth departure window.
If you want to use ISRU, you already committed to the return window after that.
Besides, as far as we know the samples collected thus far, are just dumb rocks. That means that the speed of the return is absolutely not critical, which means that using ISRU to reduce the launch mass of the sample return mission's surface-to-orbit segment is a great way to reduce the size of the launcher you need. That means the sample return mission can probably get away with using a cheaper rocket for that segment. I know that's a tiny fraction of the overall costs of the whole thing, but it looks great to congress and the average layperson taxpayer so even if it takes longer and costs more overall it'll probably get funded because it spreads those costs out over MORE TIME meaning less cost per year.
Plus I'm sure that you don't "need" nuclear power, you do need a lot of power but that doesn't mean you have to send a nuclear thing. Sending a nuclear thing takes a lot of setup time BEFORE launch anyways, we literally don't have enough Pu-238 to make RTG's big enough for that purpose right now, so solar panels are the way to go.
They could develop some sort of larger flexible solar array (individual cells would be standard solid monocrystalline solar cells mounted on a flexible backing, similar to how the ISS replacement solar arrays are constructed) that would be rolled out over the surface by the action of springs integrated into the solar array trying to unroll it over the terrain once the latches release, that way you don't have to design some complex rigid unfolding solar array with a lot more moving parts and points of failure for the same or likely a lot less power output. And like I mentioned in my first post, if it is decided to use a carbon monoxide rocket, those solar panel arrays could have some sort of hose with regular perforations in it integrated into them to blow dust off of them if the need arises (no wind? Make your own wind to clean off those solar panels!).
12:58 - It Should Look like ' BIG TRAK ' - Happy Weekend
... don't Forget the Trailer and the Mining Equipment #NASA #USSF
What a time when the main constraint on ISS launches is parking space, like the local mall! I guess that should be a big consideration for Reef something or other and the Lunar Gateway.
20:02 "No plan survives contact with the enemy." Love it!
Is ""when your best laid plans interact with reality" Scott's own creation?!
Lots of inspiring news.
Was surprised to see that your a fellow scot 😁 keep up the good work 👏
Bravo for Japan. Happy that they are onboard with us.
You’re exactly right about stretching falcon 9. They used to have to launch payloads on heavy that they can now use a falcon 9 for. They will figure out how to stretch starship
I miss your Kerbal Space Program playthroughs :(
Looking forward to IFT4. ... ... ... Wouldn't it be epic if there was a camera platform on station at the "virtual tower" location for the booster's catch descent profile and hover. Would make for a powerful PR video!
Wild, talking about Wild.....who ever thought this many rockets being launched was possible
I see the utility of the standing cart moon rover design, but it doesn’t look nearly as classy as a traditional vehicle.
It isn't that Funk and Dwight "didn't quite get there." You know? They got there, but were prevented from crossing that line.
Facts
He's an immigrant, give him some slack.
Astrolab's rover looks like a lunar shopping cart. The moon racer looks cooler imo, even if it's the "least suitable".
Doesn't it! Hell, as a former warehouse worker I've operated lifting machines similar to the Astrolab "Rover".
Astrolabs design is a "base operations workhorse", not an exploratory vehicle.
Possible future:
Astrolabs "Lunar Lifter" working at base, unloading cargo, rolling along 3D printed pads, roads and aprons;
Lunar Outposts "Lunar Truck with winch" building outposts and worksites further out;
Intuitive Machines "Lunar Explorer" connecting all and exploring beyond;
While above, GATEWAY crews monitor remote probes.
Standardized equipment for specialized roles.
Right On
I totally knew when the perseverance mission was going to end up like this sine the first announcement. They made the return mission way too complex. The rover should have carried the samples with it so one mission was guaranteed to grab the samples
NASA's new task to develop lunar-time might be quite relevant to Sabine Hossenfelder's latest video about why it's so complicated to develop accurate long-lasting clocks.
Scott! I'm wondering if you'd consider talking about the Decadal Survey in a video, with a Uranus orbiter chosen as top priority over Mars sample return. Could be an interesting opportunity also to discuss the current plutonium production pipeline problems.
24:10 I believe it's a _"Prograde X+0.25,Y+1,Z+0.25 Five"_
Booing starliner mission name: Better late then never but bring screw driver! 😅🚀💥
Somebody needs to repurpose the "the front fell off" meme for Boing's "door" problem.
Scott! You should consider covering some space adjacent technologies on the channel. Hypersonics are cool too :-)
At last, a chance to dust off the "Red Dragon"
The final Delta IV launch was also the sendoff of the last of the Titan legacy hardware… the huge metal tri-sector fairing from the Titan IV that was retained for these payloads and missions when Delta IV Heavy took over that special role…
Just put a FORD F150 King Ranch up there like GOD intended!
0:05 4/18, 2 days early for high time Scott 🤣
Take care scott love you❤❤❤❤❤xxxx
Scott, the ISS is fairly high above the Earth. Any five there, I consider a high five.
Though the streams are swollen, Keep them dawwgies rovin', Rawhide!
For sample return i would go for a solid rocket design with monopropellant thrusters and a final ion engine, folded in half or in 3 parts for compactness, to avoid propellant boiloff and complexities, it would delay sample return some years but reliability would be great, solid rocket motors have proven in various designs that they reach determined orbits
Even with no gravity there's still at least one way to get high in space
Delta V is a bit on-the-nose for a rocket name! 😂
I hope the door doesn't fall off the boeing Capsule...
(3:28) Smoke alarm chirped. Time to change the battery.
Amazing on NASA for giving Ed a chance to fly. I watch a whole movie on all of that and the politics at the time was very interesting.
The jaxa rover concept has an FJ grill.😂
The Mars samples will return with the 1st Starship that actually flies back home ^^. Those samples plus like 100 tons more =)
I truly do not understand how one vehicle, essentially a high-tech car, can cost over $1 billion. It's absolute madness, if you ask me. Is it made out of diamonds or something?
Normal cars on earth are relatively cheap because they build hundreds of thousands or even millions of them and can recoup the development cost over time. If a company builds a one-off car for you it will easily cost in the millions, tens of millions if there is some critical high tech component to it. Now, the lunar vehicle has lots of critical components, its definitely one-off (or close to that), it operates in a hostile environment (imagine driving through fine sharp glass shards all the time, no roads), it has to be easily serviceable and super reliable (try finding a mechanic shop on the moon) and there is the little matter of shipping it to the customer on the moon. All of that combined easily explains a cost in the hundreds of millions, or even a billion.
Given everything thats been going on with boeing recently, best of luck to those astronauts going on starliner.
Oh my god I wish that thing was cancelled. I really do think it's gonna kill a crew
@@QuasistellarNymphomaniac i dont think theyll even reach that state because its so garbage, its a now diversity learning device on a large stand 😆
Has nothing to do with Boeing Commercial Aircraft, which is where the problems are. Boeing have hundreds of programs making top-notch stuff, but the media makes money from scandalizing, so you don't hear about it. Starliner has already launched and recovered safely twice. Criticizing a development program is silly. If you need to do that, direct your bile at Starship, which is a deathtrap.
An enclosed rover means they can use it at an intermediary pressure, between the low pressure living and very low pressure of their suits, just like on long deep sea dives.
Surprised nobody mentioned the recent 'exoatmospheric' missile interception. Was that just not quite high enough to be space news?
"Can you do a high-five in space?"
Wouldn't that be the HIGHEST five?