There was a long term test, like 60k, on high powerd sedan a few years ago and the ISF was the only 400+ hp car that got over 20 mpg. Also, the car had the lowest maintenance costs.
Bought a used 2010 isf 3 years ago for 21K. Lexus serviced every 5k, for 95.00-220.00. The 120k service at Lexus Will be 1k (spark plugs, and valve inspection). I’m lucky to have 3 dealers within 35 miles that compete for my business)Besides tires, brakes, and a new battery, and the rear view mirror issue(fixed free). And this One thing. If you have the upgraded Stereo, like mine, and you get the rattling middle dash speaker issue, Lexus wanted 500 but to replace, but all you need to do is go to a stereo store, and tell them the speaker is loose, well they repaired mine for 30 bucks. There’s TH-cam vids on how to fix yourself, but I just didn’t have the tools.
The Lexus all day every day. I've driven both and the ISF is much more superior in pretty much every area. Lexus is more reliable, better performance, better interior, cost less, cheaper to maintain... it's a no-brainer.
@@davidreyes6660 what transmission? Lexuses 8speed in manual mode is quite quick. (Shifts at around .1 seconds) Hell one of the highest mileage is-f’s right now in US is at 450k+ miles, still driving on original motor and trans. There’s a few of them with over 300k miles. And a ton with 200k+ Mine has over 120k on the clock, still perfect compression, no issues at all what so ever.
really? fast forward to the current ISF/F series line-up and what do you see amigo.. obvious rip-off of Audi's apparent trend-setting Big Mouth grill..which debuted in mid 2005.. but like always Lex over-designs when using a samurai sword to clay model..
The car will always be stylish my friend. 20 years from now...like the Porche 911. And the new design is kicking everyones ass on the road. No other car looks like the new IS. Everytime I car I see it I perk up. Other cars just look bland compared to IT.
Mikab61 J.D. Powers? Top of the line reliability for 2014 is it not Lexus? autos.jdpower.com/ratings/2014-Vehicle-Dependability-Study-Press-Release.htm
J.D.Powers rates cars based on consumer feedback. They don't test them. In other words if more Lexus owners write in and say good things about their cars and Audi owners don't bother writing then Lexus gets a higher rating. Buick got the same award. You also realize that Craig Stanton who tested the cars was working for Toyota and being paid to say good things about the Lexus? Look at the exact same comparison by Edmunds, which is considered a very reliable and honest auto information source. The Audi wins by far. Also be fair the Audi was a 2007 model, a seven year old model. Are you afraid to test current model to current model?
The Rs4 is a real and true classic which always will be, not to mention a work of art inside and out. A purists car, analogue and as raw as they come. Its drivers having often the most discerning of taste and class. One of the greatest moments in the Audi automobile history and copied by many although never beaten. The Germans know what they are doing here. (Why drink Pepsi when you can enjoy fine wine:) ?
Anyone that's smart will know the Lexus ISF is the better performing car between the two. That Audi tho nice is heavily outdated over weight, have a v8 hanging over its front axle and had a heavy AWD drivetrain that understeers. I love the RS4 but the ISF is better. Get over it people Germans cars aren't the only performance option anymore.
Those cannot appreciate the IS-F must have deficiencies between their legs and/or ears. As an auto enthusiast, I certainly would not mind having one in my garage next to my AMG. Lexus makes awesome cars.
reliability, Lexus wins. But this comparison is between top of the line compact executive cars, and the fact is that the RS4 was named world performance car of the year when it came out in 2007, winning against the 911 turbo, 911 gt3 and ferrari 599. The LF-A was a great performance car but Lexus needs to step up their performance if they want to compete with german competition.
The rs4(b7) was released in 2004-2005 in some countries, the Lexus in 2008...how is this a fair comparison? The newer car (marginally) beat the older car, thank you once again America.
me and my brother we own an RS4 , Booth rs4 are blue,if any body live in Washington state ,then you can see me driving on weekends, I just installed jhm full exhaust , very very loud,and carbon fiber intake then I tune up and I did octane 93 ,now my rs4 its over 500 hp,very fast car , Whatever I go I get alot of compliments ,no body knows what a fun car to drive , I will never sell my car, now I'm looking to buy a European style seats, to tell you the truth I do race a lot of cars on the road ,but I never lost, some of the car keep up with me until I reach 80 mph ,after that I'm gone, this is a beast,
Stats speaks for themselves, not a big difference However, with the passing of time What car 🚙 will people remember I think it’s already written in stone
Are you guys really that naïve to think that the Lexus is built in Tokyo of only Japanese parts? First Audi builds its engines in Hungary, not Czech. Toyota, ooops, Lexus has parts plants all over the world for this car. More than 51 plants plus a lot of the parts from brakes, tires, oil and lubes, hoses, belts, paint, interior materials, stereos, glass, etc... are built by outside manufacturers, Including some in China. Check the battery, wiring, computers, etc... Only the Name is Japanese Quality.
I love Audi and I've never liked JDM cars also been about euros but there's just something about IS-F that makes me wanna own one maybe its the rarity who knows but i love both the vehicles in this video
You have a valid point about the most reliable cars,but the statement that Audi is among the most reliable german cars is just...funny,since i work at the BOSCH service and only for the last month i v been sweating over 2 RS6 2012,one to a customer and second my boss. Both of them with broken timing chains! Not to mention that from 8 cages,always 5-6 of them are busy with the VAG group cars,Audi,VW and Seat..
The ISF is nice and quicker, but I'll rather have the 4.2 V8 with AWD, room for rear passengers, more fun in snow and off road, tuning capability and aftermarket support.
I dont feel that reliability is measured over 24 hours of high rpm driving. It is measured over years and hundreds of thousands of kms/miles in different climates, altititudes and environments. Please look up the 2013 JD Power Reliability index. As much as I do not like these kinds of "surveys", there is some truth to them. There are many Japanese brands near the bottom of this list and German brands at the top. If you want to compare Audi to Lexus... this may hurt... look at own risk :)
As an Rs4 owner it bugs me that people keep flinging up maintenance bills as if that should be a deciding factor, or should scare you into buying an even more problematic Lexus. Don't get me wrong the ISF is great I've been in one and I had a whale of a time but I just can't ever see it being remembered as well as the RS4 in 10 years time as to me personally it's WAY more of an enthusiasts car. The only regret I have is not getting an avant model.
RS4 takes 4.7 seconds to 60mph while IF-F takes 4.8 seconds to 60mph, so the difference is between the driver, and, because the RS4 had a better braking distance, it won the first test. In the second, AWD always betters RWD at low speed cornering (no understeer at that speed), plus the RS4 was quicker so it won that test. No idea about the lap time, though.
@@Modmaannlol way too late. I drive a stock 08 is-f, (15 yrs old now, with 120+k miles) almost regularly checking it with draggy (that’s what magazines use nowadays) best so far is 4.23s 0-62 and 12.54s @115 mph. And yes it still gets up to 170mph like it did 15 yrs ago. Mechanical problems? So far none
Never mind that the editor needs to learn a thing or two about contrast and saturation, this was def bias towards lexus. i don't own either, but ide def prefer the Audi
My brother has an IS-F and he asked some guys (mechanics -friends of others that are repairing my Z32 lol, Audi owners and regular people) their opinion about going from Lexus to Audi (he was lying lol) and they said... no way, dude. Keep your Lexus 'cause Audi visit the mechanic too much plus your machine is way nicer.
Boy, he sure was making a big deal about two tenths of a second through that slalom (roll the eyes), and wait a minute..This exact generation RS4 came out in 2006-07, so…I would hope the ISF woulld be better, but looks like just marginally.
Exactly right! Too bad Craig is on Lexus' payroll, as he should have explained his comments better. Comparing an older heavy Audi with 4-wheel drive to a newer lighter Lexus, is like comparing a 1990 Corvette to a new Nissan GTR. Hardly fair or accurate. Lexus and Infiniti do this in all their TV ads; comparing a front drive 4 cylinder Audi A4 to their hot new sports sedan. Sure it has 100 more horsepower. But it isn't an honest comparison. Maybe put them both on snow with stock tires and lets see which does best in these tests?
Mikab61 Spirited Driver Wow just because Lexus beat your precious Audi? "like comparing a 1990 corvette to a gtr" LMFAO! The RS4 in this video ca?ome out in 2006-2007, the isf came out in 2007-2008. How is that so much older? you are telling me a car becomes outdated after 1 year? haha wow
Wow, just because I told you this video was made up for Toyota and it did not beat the Superior Audi you start calling names! Ok, If you would pull your head from out of your cheeks and look at Edmunds, and Motor week and other contemporary test you would see your over priced Toyota piece of regurgitation was actually slower and lost every test to the Audi. I don't know when you think this Lexus Failure came out but it was mid 2008 before it was offered for sale in the USA due to production problems. Sister works for Toyota so I know what a piece of XXXX these are. What you don't understand is that the Audi was designed 2003 and was finally released in 2006. The F was announced in 2001 but shelved and it wasn't actually designed until around 2006. And yes three years of technology in performance cars is like a lifetime. If you were in the auto business like I am you would understand this. Yes like computers 1 year and they're outdated! The ISF is called F because it is a failure. Lexus F types never won a race, and are not bought by knowledgeable enthusiasts because they know they are luxo mobiles and not serious sports sedans. And while we speak Audi RS4's and 5's are winning races all over the world. And the F type? Not one race! Boo hoo for your precious car you LMFAO! Wow what a doof!
vijay dacosta Thats actually a good point. (Not that im a huge fan audi because im not.). My vette on the otherhand will stay in the garage and maybe its time to trade my audi for a 08' isf?
We shall see on the track. The ISF is up against the BMW M3, Merc C64 AMG, Audi RS5, Chevy Lumina, Jaguar XFS R, the Maserati Quattroporte and the Chrysler 300C in the International Superstars series. So far, the Audi RS5 has shocked everyone with it's speed and handling, so much so, that new balance rules were introduced after the first three races this season, slapping a 100kg balance weight on the Audi PLUS a tighter inlet restrictor... Next race - Vallelunga near Rome on the 7th of October
Lexus for sure --- but if someone likes to learm car repair, then Audi. I learned from my previous two Audis, if I had a Lexus from the beginning, I would only know the oil change so far ... This is the ONLY advantage Audi has over Lexus.
...the only good thing that Audi really makes is the aluminum ASF (space frame) the body panels are fitted very solidly,and the interior is one of the best on the market ( though the last Lexus IS is with no doubt winner there) Underneath Audi is crappy BOSCH electronics that can ruin any mid class family budget easily :) Fuel pumps,injectors,electronic steering,ECU,air condition,xenon lights..the list goes on and on..
Crazy ass Audi-Fanboys. Looks are subjective, performance is similar. What is not is the reliability and maintenance cost. Audi is on par with performance but why should i pay 2x to maintain it?
that's because the japanese wait for it to get stable, then implement already proven innovations and stamp it new tech for them, they keep it stable though and use them for many years to fine tune it.
i don't say the lexus is a bad car but you can say audi is garbage because the lexus is younger...and + Audi is a legend...put the new rs4 here and you will se wath happend..we don't need to talk about the rs6...
I own an RS4, but I disliked this video because of the shitty editing, and filters they used. I'm fine with the results, I love my car. The Lexus is a good car as well. It all depends on the driver, and trusting your driving ability and your car.
I disliked because of the "fun-fact". I'm sure that not many people will drive this on a track like he did. It's more interesting to see differences between security in rainy situation, snow, aquaplaning and then of course like he did just by comparing performance. But I personally give a fuck if i have 0.4 sec difference on a race track. And by the way. I'm a Audi fanboy. Yes! But I have much respect for Lexus. Toyota can built cars that live forever by maintaining them with basic tools. That's impressive. Those japanese engineers are really good. But the comparision here does not help anybody here. If you go to race with this cars on a track you do well by not using a stock care. You will boost performace take off weight as much as you can. So for everyday users who actually can afford this car this video is useless. => -1.
Most of you must never have owned an Audi before. The reliability is so bad on their cars that it's actually insulting. My father has an 08 m3 and yes it is nice but still foes not have much torque and it is noticible. Never owned a Lexus so I can't make a full judgement on it but I heard the car requires little maintenance.
rs4 benchmark? i dont know, id go for the c63 amg, well even the m3 is better than that understeering, v8 over the front axle, audi :) i owned few audis, i like them really, but benchmark? nope
Why is the audio all fucked up? Why in god's name is there one voice talking while Craig Stanton's mouth is moving? I got through 3:07 before I hit the back button.
The Lexus IS three years newer, but in the same car age 'group' of2005-2011. The previous would be 1997-2004. These things are made up by me to help get an idea of what car should be compared with what.
I love how they went through this entire review never mentioning that the audi is awd while the lexus is rear. …that's a major factor that they clearly overlooked. …like "oh the lexus is so much fun" (showing him drifting around).. no kidding but they completely ignored the obvious positives of the rs4 quattro system
oh and he loves the "8 speed" in the Lexus… but oh wait, it only comes in auto. Nice Lexus. But the Audi comes in manual hence why it's not an 8 speed lol.
A lot of image processing, a lot of music and dialogue ... but where is the fundamental!, the sounds of cars!!!!, looks like a music video clip rather than a comparison of car... :S
There was a long term test, like 60k, on high powerd sedan a few years ago and the ISF was the only 400+ hp car that got over 20 mpg. Also, the car had the lowest maintenance costs.
All the cars in this category are sick as hell!!!! M3, RS4, ISF, C63 AMG LOVE EM!!!
2 x M3 = 1 x water pump, 1x clutch ( release finger disintegrated), 1 x clutch release bearing (different car), 2x rtab, 2x fcab, SMG motor, gear position sensor, steering rack. Bought an is-f - nothing
Dood, I destroyed transmissions, steering racks,control arms with my crazy driving. I've had my Isf for 2 years, nothing. Only oil changes
Bought a used 2010 isf 3 years ago for 21K. Lexus serviced every 5k, for 95.00-220.00. The 120k service at Lexus Will be 1k (spark plugs, and valve inspection). I’m lucky to have 3 dealers within 35 miles that compete for my business)Besides tires, brakes, and a new battery, and the rear view mirror issue(fixed free). And this One thing. If you have the upgraded Stereo, like mine, and you get the rattling middle dash speaker issue, Lexus wanted 500 but to replace, but all you need to do is go to a stereo store, and tell them the speaker is loose, well they repaired mine for 30 bucks. There’s TH-cam vids on how to fix yourself, but I just didn’t have the tools.
The Lexus all day every day. I've driven both and the ISF is much more superior in pretty much every area. Lexus is more reliable, better performance, better interior, cost less, cheaper to maintain... it's a no-brainer.
In TOP versions lexus wins but the IS 220d, 250 are pure garbage, while basic a4 versions are amazing.
@40 Roller the only reason why you would buy the rs4 is if you live in a snowy area. the lexus shits all over the rs4 in every other way.
Interior and transmission in the Audi wins over the ISF, but reliability in the Lexus is not matched.
@@davidreyes6660yea right, show me your RS4 with 70k miles let me see how superior that trans is.
@@davidreyes6660 what transmission? Lexuses 8speed in manual mode is quite quick. (Shifts at around .1 seconds)
Hell one of the highest mileage is-f’s right now in US is at 450k+ miles, still driving on original motor and trans.
There’s a few of them with over 300k miles. And a ton with 200k+
Mine has over 120k on the clock, still perfect compression, no issues at all what so ever.
Isf with 120k miles on it. Still perfect , as in perfect.
I had german cars never again Lexus forever!!!!
Toyota
Beast ISF ENGINE
@@badrobot2765 why would anyone think that's an insult? Better than a VW aka Audi anyday
Japanese NA engines are immortal. Audi engines turbo give problems always.
Love the ISF
Fast forward to 2014 the Audi's Styling looks Dated where as the IS-F look is still stylish today as it was when it first came out.
really? fast forward to the current ISF/F series line-up and what do you see amigo.. obvious rip-off of Audi's apparent trend-setting Big Mouth grill..which debuted in mid 2005.. but like always Lex over-designs when using a samurai sword to clay model..
The car will always be stylish my friend. 20 years from now...like the Porche 911. And the new design is kicking everyones ass on the road. No other car looks like the new IS. Everytime I car I see it I perk up. Other cars just look bland compared to IT.
itsoverforuman Totally Agree..Look at the drivers Huge Grin driving on the track. Same Grin i get when i power up to get on the Freeway. :)
johnny rex Nothing new..All manufacturers borrow styling form other Manuf.
That audi (B7) debuted well before that ISF in case you didn't know.
I got a 2011 ISF and I love the car,
I think I go for Lexus, there's no doubt about it
Lexus all the way!!!!!! WE love Lexus never a problem like the german cars !!!
Audi all the way!!!!!! WE love Audi, because they never have problems like the Japanese cars do !!!
Mikab61 HM !!! they wish to be with Lexus even close check consumers repot !!!@
ernest benedek Consumer Reports? That's what you go by? Why not J.D. Powers? Or MAD magazine? Tear one apart and you will see what they're made of.
Mikab61 J.D. Powers? Top of the line reliability for 2014 is it not Lexus? autos.jdpower.com/ratings/2014-Vehicle-Dependability-Study-Press-Release.htm
J.D.Powers rates cars based on consumer feedback. They don't test them. In other words if more Lexus owners write in and say good things about their cars and Audi owners don't bother writing then Lexus gets a higher rating. Buick got the same award. You also realize that Craig Stanton who tested the cars was working for Toyota and being paid to say good things about the Lexus? Look at the exact same comparison by Edmunds, which is considered a very reliable and honest auto information source. The Audi wins by far. Also be fair the Audi was a 2007 model, a seven year old model. Are you afraid to test current model to current model?
The Rs4 is a real and true classic which always will be, not to mention a work of art inside and out. A purists car, analogue and as raw as they come. Its drivers having often the most discerning of taste and class. One of the greatest moments in the Audi automobile history and copied by many although never beaten. The Germans know what they are doing here. (Why drink Pepsi when you can enjoy fine wine:) ?
Besides the complaints, I find that the 07-10 ISF's are completely different than the 2011 model (huge performance diff).
Lexus is soo cool!
Who else is watching contemplating purchasing one of the 2? Let's go isf!
Just bought an is-f. No regrets. These really do last a long time
70 lbs. lighter is not an advantage but ALL WHEEL DRIVE IS
Anyone that's smart will know the Lexus ISF is the better performing car between the two.
That Audi tho nice is heavily outdated over weight, have a v8 hanging over its front axle and had a heavy AWD drivetrain that understeers.
I love the RS4 but the ISF is better. Get over it people Germans cars aren't the only performance option anymore.
You can tell which Toyota has a better R&D division just by looking at the paint of the cars
Don't bother with the video
Boring just wanted to see the race. Love the lexus very underrated.
Lexus all day long..
audi cars spend to long in the garage over there lifetime for repairs..
Those cannot appreciate the IS-F must have deficiencies between their legs and/or ears. As an auto enthusiast, I certainly would not mind having one in my garage next to my AMG. Lexus makes awesome cars.
reliability, Lexus wins. But this comparison is between top of the line compact executive cars, and the fact is that the RS4 was named world performance car of the year when it came out in 2007, winning against the 911 turbo, 911 gt3 and ferrari 599. The LF-A was a great performance car but Lexus needs to step up their performance if they want to compete with german competition.
The rs4(b7) was released in 2004-2005 in some countries, the Lexus in 2008...how is this a fair comparison?
The newer car (marginally) beat the older car, thank you once again America.
European can't take that Japanese cars are better?
I love Lexus 10 years driving my 01 es 300
Reliably n comfortable car
"8 speeds! Incredible!!" Said by this guy only.
Isf all day! Sat in one today.. Cmn from a s4 owner
Both nice cars 🚗 glad to own a b7 rs4 one of the best sedans ever made :-)
THE sound being 1 minute behind the Video really spoils what could have been a great show..
me and my brother we own an RS4 , Booth rs4 are blue,if any body live in Washington state ,then you can see me driving on weekends, I just installed jhm full exhaust , very very loud,and carbon fiber intake then I tune up and I did octane 93 ,now my rs4 its over 500 hp,very fast car , Whatever I go I get alot of compliments ,no body knows what a fun car to drive , I will never sell my car, now I'm looking to buy a European style seats, to tell you the truth I do race a lot of cars on the road ,but I never lost, some of the car keep up with me until I reach 80 mph ,after that I'm gone, this is a beast,
joe A i also want to be your brother
the narrartors voice is so nice. sounds cool.
Stats speaks for themselves, not a big difference
However, with the passing of time
What car 🚙 will people remember
I think it’s already written in stone
anyone have any tips cuz i just bought 2011 lexus IS-F and so far IM LOVING IT!!!!
The Audi and most Parts produced in Czech and China only the Name is German Quality.
Are you guys really that naïve to think that the Lexus is built in Tokyo of only Japanese parts? First Audi builds its engines in Hungary, not Czech. Toyota, ooops, Lexus has parts plants all over the world for this car. More than 51 plants plus a lot of the parts from brakes, tires, oil and lubes, hoses, belts, paint, interior materials, stereos, glass, etc... are built by outside manufacturers, Including some in China. Check the battery, wiring, computers, etc... Only the Name is Japanese Quality.
Mikab61 volkswagen ooops I mean audi lose to lexus so deal with it
I love Audi and I've never liked JDM cars also been about euros but there's just something about IS-F that makes me wanna own one maybe its the rarity who knows but i love both the vehicles in this video
You have a valid point about the most reliable cars,but the statement that Audi is among the most reliable german cars is just...funny,since i work at the BOSCH service and only for the last month i v been sweating over 2 RS6 2012,one to a customer and second my boss. Both of them with broken timing chains! Not to mention that from 8 cages,always 5-6 of them are busy with the VAG group cars,Audi,VW and Seat..
The ISF is nice and quicker, but I'll rather have the 4.2 V8 with AWD, room for rear passengers, more fun in snow and off road, tuning capability and aftermarket support.
I dont feel that reliability is measured over 24 hours of high rpm driving. It is measured over years and hundreds of thousands of kms/miles in different climates, altititudes and environments.
Please look up the 2013 JD Power Reliability index. As much as I do not like these kinds of "surveys", there is some truth to them. There are many Japanese brands near the bottom of this list and German brands at the top. If you want to compare Audi to Lexus... this may hurt... look at own risk :)
Great Vid!
Owned both cars. This guy is actually right.we can agree to disagree.
cinematography is horrible. I want to watch a comparison, not an overdone Steven segal movie.
disliked and couldn't watch till the end
wheres is the music after 2:19 ???
Now let's try for the best lap time around Silverstone whilst its pissing down with rain. I'm pretty sure you'll see the ISF in the ditch.
or when it's dry...
No, its wet at Silverstone 75% of the time.
so an audi can only beat a lexus if its raining. Got it!
Lexus all day long!
As an Rs4 owner it bugs me that people keep flinging up maintenance bills as if that should be a deciding factor, or should scare you into buying an even more problematic Lexus. Don't get me wrong the ISF is great I've been in one and I had a whale of a time but I just can't ever see it being remembered as well as the RS4 in 10 years time as to me personally it's WAY more of an enthusiasts car.
The only regret I have is not getting an avant model.
Exactly what I was thinking. At first I thought something was wrong with my computer.
What's the point of him talking if they just muted him out?
I'd still take the RS4 anyday.
Highest Point If you can afford the maintenance of it.
RS4 takes 4.7 seconds to 60mph while IF-F takes 4.8 seconds to 60mph, so the difference is between the driver, and, because the RS4 had a better braking distance, it won the first test. In the second, AWD always betters RWD at low speed cornering (no understeer at that speed), plus the RS4 was quicker so it won that test. No idea about the lap time, though.
No, the ISF is 4.4. Even the first gen is350 (06-12) can do 4.9 on a good day...
SIMcityplayer2002 4.8 Sec for 0~62mph not 60mph. If you want to talk about it, 0~60mph is 4.4 sec.
@@ryoaibaI know I am late but the rs4 has been clocked in at 4.3 seconds 0-60
Think someone hit a 4.2 or less as well
@@Modmaannlol way too late. I drive a stock 08 is-f, (15 yrs old now, with 120+k miles) almost regularly checking it with draggy (that’s what magazines use nowadays) best so far is 4.23s 0-62 and 12.54s @115 mph.
And yes it still gets up to 170mph like it did 15 yrs ago.
Mechanical problems? So far none
Never mind that the editor needs to learn a thing or two about contrast and saturation, this was def bias towards lexus. i don't own either, but ide def prefer the Audi
Oh you said it , what the hell were they doing
That's a super car costing 400,000+ compared to a car that costs about a sixth of that.
Becoming headache from you film style that switch from scene to another scene bloody quick
ISF
Try S-7 Audi compare to this. After let me know what u think.
try to compare between lexus ls600hl and audi A8 w12 ;-)
Sweet
audi s4 2006 290.000km ship 8000rpm end no problem à all v8 audi engine good motors
My brother has an IS-F and he asked some guys (mechanics -friends of others that are repairing my Z32 lol, Audi owners and regular people) their opinion about going from Lexus to Audi (he was lying lol) and they said... no way, dude. Keep your Lexus 'cause Audi visit the mechanic too much plus your machine is way nicer.
Boy, he sure was making a big deal about two tenths of a second through that slalom (roll the eyes), and wait a minute..This exact generation RS4 came out in 2006-07, so…I would hope the ISF woulld be better, but looks like just marginally.
Exactly right! Too bad Craig is on Lexus' payroll, as he should have explained his comments better. Comparing an older heavy Audi with 4-wheel drive to a newer lighter Lexus, is like comparing a 1990 Corvette to a new Nissan GTR. Hardly fair or accurate. Lexus and Infiniti do this in all their TV ads; comparing a front drive 4 cylinder Audi A4 to their hot new sports sedan. Sure it has 100 more horsepower. But it isn't an honest comparison. Maybe put them both on snow with stock tires and lets see which does best in these tests?
Mikab61 Spirited Driver Wow just because Lexus beat your precious Audi? "like comparing a 1990 corvette to a gtr" LMFAO! The RS4 in this video ca?ome out in 2006-2007, the isf came out in 2007-2008. How is that so much older? you are telling me a car becomes outdated after 1 year? haha wow
Wow, just because I told you this video was made up for Toyota and it did not beat the Superior Audi you start calling names! Ok, If you would pull your head from out of your cheeks and look at Edmunds, and Motor week and other contemporary test you would see your over priced Toyota piece of regurgitation was actually slower and lost every test to the Audi. I don't know when you think this Lexus Failure came out but it was mid 2008 before it was offered for sale in the USA due to production problems. Sister works for Toyota so I know what a piece of XXXX these are. What you don't understand is that the Audi was designed 2003 and was finally released in 2006. The F was announced in 2001 but shelved and it wasn't actually designed until around 2006. And yes three years of technology in performance cars is like a lifetime. If you were in the auto business like I am you would understand this. Yes like computers 1 year and they're outdated! The ISF is called F because it is a failure. Lexus F types never won a race, and are not bought by knowledgeable enthusiasts because they know they are luxo mobiles and not serious sports sedans. And while we speak Audi RS4's and 5's are winning races all over the world. And the F type? Not one race! Boo hoo for your precious car you LMFAO! Wow what a doof!
In the UK the Audi RS4 came out in 2005 and 2004 in some countries. The Lexus came out in 2008.
vijay dacosta Thats actually a good point. (Not that im a huge fan audi because im not.). My vette on the otherhand will stay in the garage and maybe its time to trade my audi for a 08' isf?
IS F Beast!
@Randomkaoz You probably haven't seen any of the new models. The look amazing.
LEXUS!!!!!!! FTW!!!!!!!!!!!!!
1:04 im preeeetty sure that the bmw m3 has been the "title holder" of this class of vehicle since 1986. thats not an opinion.
I hate Audi. They took away the RS4 from the US market, all we have is the S4 which is no where near M3, C63, IS-F etc.
AUDI almost win the all the 24 Hour Le Mans Race Series.
I love how he says the Audi is the winner for 0-80-0 and then a second later it says the ISF is the winner? Nice voice overs.
IsF ❤️
i have isf 2012
Lexus!!!
We shall see on the track. The ISF is up against the BMW M3, Merc C64 AMG, Audi RS5, Chevy Lumina, Jaguar XFS R, the Maserati Quattroporte and the Chrysler 300C in the International Superstars series.
So far, the Audi RS5 has shocked everyone with it's speed and handling, so much so, that new balance rules were introduced after the first three races this season, slapping a 100kg balance weight on the Audi PLUS a tighter inlet restrictor...
Next race - Vallelunga near Rome on the 7th of October
Too many damn effects i can hardly see what the hell were they thinking i can hardly see the car
Lexus for sure --- but if someone likes to learm car repair, then Audi. I learned from my previous two Audis, if I had a Lexus from the beginning, I would only know the oil change so far ...
This is the ONLY advantage Audi has over Lexus.
...the only good thing that Audi really makes is the aluminum ASF (space frame) the body panels are fitted very solidly,and the interior is one of the best on the market ( though the last Lexus IS is with no doubt winner there) Underneath Audi is crappy BOSCH electronics that can ruin any mid class family budget easily :) Fuel pumps,injectors,electronic steering,ECU,air condition,xenon lights..the list goes on and on..
How do you people even compare stick vs auto🤦♂️
i personally dont know why people saying one is better than the other. i love both manufacturers and i'd be happy with either car
Not the best comparison the audi was almost 5 years behind in tech and no long available in the U.S.
I could never trust this guys word. Wonder how much lexus paid him...
LEXUS! All the WAYYYY....
Did Micheal Bay produce this "Shoot Out"?
Crazy ass Audi-Fanboys.
Looks are subjective, performance is similar. What is not is the reliability and maintenance cost. Audi is on par with performance but why should i pay 2x to maintain it?
+Vlad B look at the interior. discussion ends there.
+Vlad B What maint cost? Oil changes and maybe suspension if you are the unlikely few with leaks?
nice
Both of these cars are really nice but i would take the isf any day over the audi and plus the lexus which is made from toyota is super reliable.
looks like a Lexus advert, RS4 all the way
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that's because the japanese wait for it to get stable, then implement already proven innovations and stamp it new tech for them, they keep it stable though and use them for many years to fine tune it.
i don't say the lexus is a bad car but you can say audi is garbage because the lexus is younger...and + Audi is a legend...put the new rs4 here and you will se wath happend..we don't need to talk about the rs6...
Haha! All the butthurt from Audi fangirls. Look at all those dislikes! Lol
I own an RS4, but I disliked this video because of the shitty editing, and filters they used. I'm fine with the results, I love my car. The Lexus is a good car as well. It all depends on the driver, and trusting your driving ability and your car.
I disliked because of the "fun-fact". I'm sure that not many people will drive this on a track like he did. It's more interesting to see differences between security in rainy situation, snow, aquaplaning and then of course like he did just by comparing performance. But I personally give a fuck if i have 0.4 sec difference on a race track.
And by the way. I'm a Audi fanboy. Yes! But I have much respect for Lexus. Toyota can built cars that live forever by maintaining them with basic tools. That's impressive. Those japanese engineers are really good.
But the comparision here does not help anybody here. If you go to race with this cars on a track you do well by not using a stock care. You will boost performace take off weight as much as you can. So for everyday users who actually can afford this car this video is useless. => -1.
Lexus! All the Way=)
I hate you I have an 09 isf and I'm still loving it!!!
Most of you must never have owned an Audi before. The reliability is so bad on their cars that it's actually insulting. My father has an 08 m3 and yes it is nice but still foes not have much torque and it is noticible. Never owned a Lexus so I can't make a full judgement on it but I heard the car requires little maintenance.
I'd take an RS4 over the lexus.
rs4 benchmark? i dont know, id go for the c63 amg, well even the m3 is better than that understeering, v8 over the front axle, audi :) i owned few audis, i like them really, but benchmark? nope
Why is the audio all fucked up? Why in god's name is there one voice talking while Craig Stanton's mouth is moving? I got through 3:07 before I hit the back button.
the lexus is more reliable more fun and is a lil quicker
Agree with stevo, great cars but worst comparison video. Missing all the details and what he said didn't really shown in video. Waste my time...
soooooo, we,re comparing an 'OLD' Audi to a newr Lexus!???? ya....that's fair. (rolls eyes)
The Lexus IS three years newer, but in the same car age 'group' of2005-2011. The previous would be 1997-2004. These things are made up by me to help get an idea of what car should be compared with what.
I love how they went through this entire review never mentioning that the audi is awd while the lexus is rear. …that's a major factor that they clearly overlooked. …like "oh the lexus is so much fun" (showing him drifting around).. no kidding but they completely ignored the obvious positives of the rs4 quattro system
oh and he loves the "8 speed" in the Lexus… but oh wait, it only comes in auto. Nice Lexus. But the Audi comes in manual hence why it's not an 8 speed lol.
RacksonRacksonRibss
they also omitted that the lexus is top un reliability... and audi?
Audi and all German cars are excellent for reliability, as are Japanese cars so there's no points in saying that.
Azaan Habib
really? it is clear that you have no idea what you are saying. geman brands have years strugling with realiability issues. is a fact!
@@kimada100 Even in Europe most people know ( especially car people) lexus vs audi reliability is a no- brainer.
A lot of image processing, a lot of music and dialogue ... but where is the fundamental!, the sounds of cars!!!!, looks like a music video clip rather than a comparison of car... :S
IsF for life
WTF, new for those years Lexus ISF vs old Audi RS4... this comparison makes no sense!
wow... I bet your the guy that drives a ford focus and think its a ferrari huh?
Lexus If you’re aged 55+