Indonesian presidential candidates avoid religious, ethnic narratives
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 ก.พ. 2024
- Politicians in the upcoming presidential election in Indonesia have refrained from using religious or ethnic narratives to garner votes. This is a far cry from the last contest in 2019, which was among the most divisive in the country's history. Back then, many national leaders had resorted to identity politics to increase their winning chances, said observers. CNA’s Saifulbahri Ismail reports.
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Anies said "Unity in Diversity is inportant" but in real his supporters use religion and ethnic to attack other constentant
These supporters also voted for Prabowo Sandiaga in election 2019, and once again used identity politic
This year, they support Anies again, making the majority of neutral voters would think twice to vote Anies
If there is any Christian voted for Anies, s/he must be an insane one
Stop black campaigning Anies. Just share ur candidate's achievements. In Anies side there is Thomas Lembong who is Chinese Catholic minority but has a big role in his team. During his term, Anies launched so many permits to build religious buildings and religious celebration like Christmas Carol on the Street. This is the evidence that he's tolerant. If you look at his track record, he actually a liberal guy who becomes rector a liberal university in Indonesia and the student of Nurcholis Madjid who was known for father of liberalism. How can he will make Indonesia an Islamic nation? Even his own daughter isn't wearing Hijab 😂
I believe anis is not intolerant, but the group behind him is the source of these problem @@volksraad6253
Thats supporter has rights to choose candidates by ethnic, religion or anything, If the other candidates has opposite background, its make easier.
Whats politic identity you mean in 2019??? Theyre muslim and have indonesian blood 😂😂😂 so when jokowi bring maruf amin as vice president candidate isn't politic identity??? 😂😂😂
@@volksraad6253 take beer 🍺🍺🍺🍺 kaboommmm 💥💥💥💥
I wish Indonesia and all Indonesians will have a fair election and be able to elect to rational leader to succeed the good works of President Joko Widodo.
❤ameen
Widodo is CORRUPT these days
Except Anies' supporters still do this. The amount of people who said "you're not real moslem if you don't vote for him" is annoyingly astounding
Pendukung Islam ekstrim ada di ANIES, hanya mereka tak berani terus terang.
Kekwkw... menyembunyiksn bangkai akan tercium juga baunya.
Lebih tepatnya yg rusuh2 kemarin udah pada menyebar mereka tidak kumpul di satu kelompok. Kemudian kebanyakan pemilih adalah anak muda yg mana gak suka dgn politik identitas.
Same strategy he used in jakarta election
Aneh lu Stop black campaigning Anies. Just share ur candidate's achievements. In Anies side there is Thomas Lembong who is Chinese Catholic minority but has a big role in his team. During his term, Anies launched so many permits to build religious buildings and religious celebration like Christmas Carol on the Street. This is the evidence that he's tolerant. If you look at his track record, he actually a liberal guy who becomes rector a liberal university in Indonesia and the student of Nurcholis Madjid who was known for father of liberalism. How can he will make Indonesia an Islamic nation? Even his own daughter isn't wearing Hijab 😂
Alumni 212 malah kebanyakan di kubu Prabowo sekarang. Fahri Hamzah, Haikal Hasan, Novel Bamukmin, Neno Warisman, Habiburokhman semuanya di kubu Prabowo. FYI Anies gk pernah ikut 411 dan 212 asal lo tau aja
you out there can say Chinese Indonesians are from China...but for us we consider them our fellow countrymen...compatriots...please don't take them and separate them from us...because we will love & protect each other...we will die on this land..& we will fight together.. ..Unity in Diversity..🇮🇩💪
Apa sih yang lu harapin dari media asing, selain bikin berita" gak berguna gini
@@NUSANTARA.2045 Santai aja sih bro , Cna Insider kan memang media singapura dimana jelas banyak orang keturunan chinese disana , wajar mereka bikin berita ttg kondisi Chinese-indonesian.
meanwhile in Malaysia: race and religion are everything
and then wonder why theyre still at the bottom xddddd
Malaysia's GDP per-capita is much higher than indonesia lmao
@@constantiniasmith4231 what does it have to do with racialism issue in malaysia?
@@constantiniasmith4231 if we shave off the burden half of 270 m population holds compared to malay 40 mils, our ppp / gdpercapita will be the same
In Indonesia, every Chinese community member can fluently converse in Indonesian, yet despite Malaysia's independence for over six decades, certain Malaysian Chinese groups still face challenges in mastering the national language. This serves as a significant factor fueling racial tensions within the nation.
As a malaysian i wish our political leaders were more like this
Tell that to dap racist
Sultan² Melayunya harus Dikudeta dulu, Baru Bisa diterapkan di Malaysia.
Mungkin 2040 Ke Atas! 👀
Ya susah bro sedangkan Melayu - Islam yg jd harust jadi yg pertama
Because Jokowi banned the islamists groups and closed all foreign funding to those orgs. That's the reason Indonesia is peaceful and very condusive under Jokowi leadership.
yeap, the key is to oversee the funding from overseas or foreign funding, without those funding these group will be gone by itself.
Christian missionaries should be banned too otherwise it's unfair
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Preeettt... Our debt has increased by folds but prices have gone up, the standard of living for most people are lowering.
That's why they really hate jokowi 😂 you know where they are siding now 😏🤫
Hopefully Indonesian Country🇮🇩 political , economic and no racism better than previous year🙏
God bless Pancasila for keeping the country secular. Six religions, all equal; one Indonesia for one people. Malaysia would do well to emulate. Love and God's blessings from USA.
Happy Chinese new year to all Chinese people in the world. 春节快乐！恭喜发财！
Identity politics still exists in Indonesia but is no longer popular
Indonesian is the mush population, and the great power in the world, this state potential to the next super power.
Estoy estudiando el idioma por esa misma razón, nadie está dándose cuenta del potencial inmenso del país. Saludos
Not with aceh continuing with their barbaric sharia law
😂
@@Grippybananaseh, you see, quite nearly each country has their own edge. Like the southern U.S there, raising the confederate flag & others, but good thing for indonesia to not be like their saracens counterpart😂😂😂🤣
@@henocksherlock3340 indonesia has more morale than britons and americoon
Menarik menarik.........😅
Pokoknya satu "INDONESIA"
jangan mudah goyah dengan isu Ras,Budaya,Agama Dll
Hati hati politik itu kejam sesaat, Baik sesaat.. ❤❤❤ rukun guyup sak lawase
Send this link to all of Malaysian people, politicians especially PAS & BERSATU.
Politik Identitas Udh gk laku lagi.....
Semua Orang bebas Menentukan pilihannya!
Selama semua orang mendapat hak Setara, Kita pasti Bisa! ✌️
This Muslim country has shown the world what it is like to be a tolerant society ...to walk the talk ...
Respect comes not from one community respecting the majority of the other but for all to respect one another .
Religion is not an issue for a society which wants to go forward ..the election is a carnival which is not witness anywhere .
Congratulations to all Indonesian for their maturity
Indonesia is not a Muslim country :), it's Muslim majority country with 87% Islam.
Indonesia is not moslem country. Take a note!
Indonesia not Muslim country like Malaysia
Like everybody said here, Indonesia is not a muslim country, despite being a muslim majority country it is not a muslim country, Indonesia have 6 religion accepted by the government which it's people can choose to being a part of, this is one of the reason why Indonesia have a lot of national holiday since the country celebrate all 6 religious holiday from ramadan, christmas, nyepi and many more.
Yes ..in reality it is a Muslim country ...but officially it is guided by the principles stipulated by the founding father of Indonesia and now fully practise by Jokovi ..Pancasila...the 5 principles therein .Pancasila is a sanskrit word .And the word Indonesia even comes from Greek..meaning INDIAN ISLANDS ...so Indonesia is a good model for all the follow and to understand
🙏 Religion & Ethnic narratives are so 2001 , where extremist attacks were so wide spread & the Good People of Indonesia suffered in their living with fear & the lost of tourists' US$Billions of Dollars of receipts! President Joko Widodo is wise to lead Indonesia to high economic growths through the focus on attracting more foreign investments into Indonesia with Pro-International Business incentives! 😊🙏🌷🌿🌍💖🕊🇮🇩
I stand with Mr. Prabowo for Presidential candidate
Sebagian besar Warga Tionghoa Indonesia tidak bisa berbahasa Mandarin atau dialek bahasa ibu karena mereka yang tinggal di pulau Jawa tetapi Kalau Tionghoa di daerah provinsi kawasan lain mungkin ada Tionghoa yang bisa berbahasa Mandarin dan dialek bahasa ibu baik itu Hakka,, Hokkien,,Toewchu.
Yah seperti kita tau Tionghoa Indonesia memiliki tingkat Nasionalisme Jauh lebih besar terhadap negara Indonesia kecintaan mereka kepada negara ini tidak diragukan , mereka bersamilasi membaur dengan penduduk lokal.
Dibandingkan Tionghoa di Singapura dan Malaysia mereka jauh lebih condong ke Daratan China Tiongkok.. sebagian besar etnis China di Malaysia dan Singapura tidak bisa berbahasa Melayu membentuk komunitas sendiri dan mereka jauh dari kata Nasionalisme Dimana mereka tinggal.
Iya klo di jawa rata2 udah gak bisa...malah mereka lancarnya berbahasa daerah dimana mereka tinggal...seperti bahasa sunda atau jawa...
Klo yg diluar pulau jawa seperti di pulau Sumatra atau Kalimantan mereka masih bisa berbicara dengan bahasa asalnya...
Secara sadar dan tak sadar sebenarnya keturunan tionghoa "tersembunyi" yg dia nya gak sadar punya keturunan tionghoa banyak di indonesia 😂 jadi ya itu salah satu faktor juga berhasilnya asimilasi keturunan tionghoa di indonesia karena udah gak bs dibedakan lagi. Yg masih menjalankan budaya luhur masing² yg bs jd pembeda antar kelompok dan itu indah..
Iya Benar
Tapi kenyatannya Malaysia masih lebih maju daripada Wakanda. Pandangan yang realistis2 aja , buat aja mencintai negara Wakanda kalau Malaysia msh lebih baik.
@@bunnyfreakzemng kalau ada negara yg lebih baik dari Indonesia harus dicintai?
Gini amat inlander
Chinese has use “loong” to stay away from western "dragon" .
For they are totally different legendary animal.
Chinese loong : Maintain good weather for farmer
Western Dragon : love gold , greedy , evil .
kalau tidak ingin dibedakan, jangan merasa ingin beda dari yang lain..kalau nanti dibedakan betul.. bingung..jika anda bisa menjadi lebih indonesia timbang orang indonesia sendiri...sindir mereka yang lupa jati dirinya dan tak bisa bersaing...ingin sejahtera ya bersaing...kualitas hidup makin baik, ketika jati diri kuat..ideologi2 yang tak pas dari luar akan sulit masuk..tapi kadang memang sulit...orang aslinya aspek dalam diri serba diminderi, kitanya ikut minder..padahal potensinya luar biasa..nama, bahasa, budaya...dst smua itu adalah modal bersaing juga...dari bahasa juga cukup menjelaskan pradabannya seperti apa...
Ethnic and Sectarian politic had been a norm for some SEA countries for many decades, ushered in a regressive and backward era unseen in many developing nations. It's hard to abandon such practices by certain hardline quarters within ASIAN society despite various drawback to a nation building task.
How refreshing if malaysian politicians would do the same.
A leader shouldn't use a religion just for something like political matter...he said "you're not Moslem if you don't vote for us"
Then what if their people is Buddhist or Christian?
That's such a lame excuses for choosing a leader...and We are smart enough to not choosing him
Anies adalah ekstrimis islam dan prabowo nasionalis
Lack of official identity narrative but it still runs under the surface
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Well, not really. That Anies guy is still using religious propaganda - if you understand bahasa there are too many funny illogical content from him. A big NO!!!
Many religions people also did not vote President who come up with religion issue.
Lmao, Anies is the only one who have bad track record related to the religious extremist in the past, but these time he's scared, cause many moderate muslim ( who are the majorities of Indonesian population ) watch his movement carefully !!! 👁👁, you better be scared Anies, cause Syariat has no place in Indonesia, except that one weird region in Aceh.
Indonesia just elected ex-general who killed 23 students protesting for Democracy.
Believe what politician did and not what he says he's going to do.
Except for Anies, all you need is to look at his party support. All of them are Islamic parties.
Does it have to be Chinese if you become prime minister of Singapore, or not Malay??😏 even though the Singaporean national anthem is Malay🤣 the narrative of British colonial Singapore was brought to Indonesia. That's called democracy, people have the right to do what they're interested in, according to him, it's fine if he's Chinese, Malay, liberal, Hindu, Muslim, Christian, but remember that Indonesia has the democratic ideology of Pancasila. not be a British colonial subordinate😏
Hey at least Singapore's president is someone from the minority,
meanwhile in your country.... javanese, javanese, javanese
@@V-S- welcome to the facts in Singapore 74% chinese, malay 14%, 9% indian. president in Singapore, China, China and China, oh yes, I want to remind you, I'm not Javanese, I agree, anyone's president in Indonesia, does Singapore have a Malay or does India have a president?? even though the Malay national anthem and the call to prayer are not permitted in Singapore. even though the fight for independence uses Malay people, they don't want to be led by Malay people. I hope that in the future the Simpangpura national anthem will still be in Malay, so that people are aware of who is fighting🤭
@@amy51998 don't be lazy, google it, Singapore's president is Indian
@@amy51998 the current President of Singapore is Indian
@@V-S-I'm also happy about the achievement.
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💪economy for people interest✊
🚫No geopolitics for politicians interest.
No geopolitics, no economy
say only, they will not hesitate to go that way if really required
So you even know why Identitiy politic fail in Indonesia ?
Because 2019 Prabowo use identity politcs and LOSE badly,
If they use identitiy politics again, they commit political suicide.
@@joMan1060 my statement is forward looking though. Past proof of failure doesnt mean they wont do it in the future. As I said, IF need be they will do it. and truth be told many SEA Chinese have no confidence that these people wont target us again
Refraining from using religion as tactics in politics? Bro, either your whole news channel just got lied to or you're paid to say these.
Semua sudah belajar bahwa politik identitas tidak benar. Maka semua menyadari itu untuk menjauhi penggunaannya. Dan sejak Jokowi membubarkan berbagai organisasi terkait dengan itu, aktivitas para penggiatnya makin redup dan kecil
Salam Kemenangan : Prabowo Gibran ✌️🇮🇩🇮🇩🇮🇩
emang dari dulu bahasanya bukan mandarin, hokkien dan hakka kebanyakan...beberapa ada yang canton...
Mandarin, Hokkien, Cantonese, etc. are all Chinese. The writing is the same, but the pronunciation is different, just like American English and British English are both English.
never trust the malaise
Politic identity is not good and bad, union nation is number one to my country...
Political hypocrisy ?. Will turn from worst to messy worst.
You dont know what you talking about😅
@joMan1060 your founding fathers, whom you ppl have supported blindly, have messed it up beyond repair.
Chinese Indonesians 🇮🇩 need to *distance* themselves from the regime in Beijing🇨🇳.
- It's better for national security and their business.
They never close to begin with, except the ultra rich, Chinese-Indonesia or native.
one thing we need to urgently deal with, avoid western interference in Indonesia. From political figures and also media attempts like what you are doing now
Chinese has use “loong” to stay away from western "dragon" .
For they are totally different legendary animal.
Chinese loong : Maintain good weather for farmer
Western Dragon : love gold , greedy , evil .
💪economy for people interest✊
🚫No geopolitics for politicians interest.
Tbh all of my family (chinese indonesians) kinda support the current status quo or even taiwan independence more than unification with mainland china. Like, we understand that ideally the two countries should unit - both are historically and culturally chinese after all (although many minority group exist in both countries). But considering how current mainland chinese politics works and what they did to hong kong... yeah the status quo is preferable. Taiwanese independence are also preferable to unification under current mainland china, but maintaining the status quo and fragile peace is more important.
Indonesia is not for Muslims alone.
It’s not a religious problem, it is an ethnic problem. Minorities support democracy always but supports authoritarianism back home
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*Allahuakbar* Di Eropa saat pemilu, banyak sentimen anti islam....
Sudah pantas di negara mayoritas Islam Indonesia ini untuk mempopulerkan sentimen anti non islam😂😂😂🇮🇩
They are being silly.
Religious leaders are best leaders.
We must maintain our own separate identities.
Do not be like secular people.
Secular non religious groups are evil.
If you want to be a silly bigot, is up to you.
Indonesia choose to be moderate ,let them be
Pendukung anies selalu menjunjung tinggi politik identitas..
Never ask a woman her age
Never ask a man his salary
Never ask what a Indonesian what his grandpa did to the Chinese in the 50s
😂😂😂😂 itu masalalu 😂😂😂😂 udah berbeda dengan generasi kami , dan itu juga tionghoa juga warga negara kami knpa kamu mengangkat isu ini ...
Sedangkan itu di masa kediktaktoran 😂😂😂😂 menggelikan
What are you talking about. I’m chinese indonesia. Indonesia has give opportunities, prosperities & fortune to my great grandparents who once poor immigrants from southern china. Yes there were violence times but nothing compared with what this country has given to our ethnic group. We are born here & for sure will be buried in this land. 🇮🇩❤️😊🙏🏼
Padahal militer amerika juga pembunuh bayi" yang tak berdosa , menginvasi negara merdeka , lalu apa yang dia katakan dengan propaganda senjata nuklir itu , saya yakin amerika memalukan dengan menuduh itu , menjijikan
Dude, we Indonesia keep asking the old generation what they did in 1998.
We talk about it till now, because that is a problem need to be solve Not hiding it.
What Indonesia did in 1950s to the chinese ?
Only happen in 1998
You dont know what you talking about.
Jodoh chindo kpn
Hah , unprecedented? Knew how to be scared of the sensitivity of the minority group, political hypocrisy ?.
Pada bulan September 2023 tersebar berita jika CIA akan melakukan misinya dengan melakukan REVOLUSI WARNA DI PILPRES 2024 INDONESIA, oleh sebab itu hati hatilah masyarakat indonesia jangan sampai presiden kita menjadi boneka negara lain
If individuals were fully integrated into Indonesia, "Chinese New Year" would not be designated as a national holiday. While I recognize Indonesia's observance of this holiday, it's notable that it's not observed in the largest democracy, such as America. If a similar celebration were to be acknowledged, perhaps "Papuan New Year" or "Sundanese New Year" could also be considered. Upholding national unity and identity is paramount when considering one's allegiance to a country. Ensuring fairness for all is essential, isn't it?
Ini Indonesia dengan bentuk demokrasinya sendiri.
Tak ada idealisme yg benar2 dapat dijalankan sebab proses menuntut evolusi bukan revolusi.
Revolusi sendiri takkan mengubah seseorang menjadi idealis murni, tetap pragmatisme adl pemegang kunci keberhasilan dalam hidup bukam idealisme.
Itu realitanya.
@@sutediheriyonoBaladMaUng Indonesia achieved independence by transcending idealism and uniting diverse elements across all aspects. Only through this inclusive approach could true freedom be realized. The principle of justice for all necessitates its universal application, as elevating any one group above others risks exacerbating divisions and impeding integration, potentially neglecting the needs of the majority. Moreover, national holidays should exclusively commemorate the unity of the nation, refraining from incorporating celebrations of other entities. Ultimately, the concept of a united nation implies a singular, cohesive identity, rather than the recognition of disparate entities.
Papuan New Year? Huh?
@@jadeandmax lalu apanya yang di langgar kita di papua , kalimantan tidak punya kalender sendiri 😂😂😂😂 wkwkw
Beda dengan cheinise dia punya kalender dan kita menghormati mereka .....
Lalu apa bedanya dengan hari raya idul fitri ?
Ada kok selain taun baru imlek yg diakui d indonesia. Tahun baru saka, tahun baru hijriyah
In Anies side there is Thomas Lembong who is Chinese Catholic minority but has a big role in his team. During his term, Anies launched so many permits to build religious buildings and religious celebration like Christmas Carol on the Street. This is the evidence that he's tolerant. If you look at his track record, he actually a liberal guy who becomes rector a liberal university in Indonesia and the student of Nurcholis Madjid who was known for father of liberalism. How can he will make Indonesia an Islamic nation? Even his own daughter isn't wearing Hijab 😂
Fyi, most of extremists who attended 212 is in Prabowo side right now like Fahri Hamzah, Haikal Hasan, Novel Bamukmin, Neno Warisman, Habiburokhman even President Jokowi itself join this movement at that time. Just listen to Ahok's interview how he hate Jokowi because his dirty politics
Bcuz he's pks bruh
@@ariastrwn7933 what's wrong with PKS? PKS konsisten sama isu-isu yg merugikan masyarakat kecil. UU omnibus law, UU KPK, semuanya mereka tolak
@@volksraad6253 lu tau kan klo di indo itu ada dua spektrum politik yang saling bersebrangan, yaitu nasionalis dan agamis, nah anies itu mengambil ranah agamis, dan didukung oleh partai2 agamis, jadi selama anies masih stay disana dan tidak berpindah haluan ke nasionalis, dia akan selalu di asosiasi kan oleh masyarakat sebagai politisi politik identitas, Prabowo juga pernah politik identitas tapi dia udah pindah haluan, jadinya masyarakat sudah "menghapus" dia dari daftar politisi politik identitas, sedangkan anies belum.
A liberal who use extremist groups and their politic identity to gain votes, is worse than the bigot themselves.
He doesn't have integrity, just like any other political conman.
Anies dari awal dia komitmen untuk gk memusuhi pihak manapun. Gak etis seorang pemimpin memusuhi suatu pihak hanya karena perbedaan ideologi dan pandangan. Makanya gk pernah dia nolak didukung siapapun. Yg bisa dilakukan seorang pemimpin itu merangkul semua, merangkul semua ideologi dan kelompok dan mastiin dia gk keluar dari jalur-jalur kehidupan bernegara, biar gk ekstrim. Kalau lu maksain kehendak, semua disamaratakan yg ada malah muncul gerakan pemberontakan. Itu esensi demokrasi, gk maksain semua org sependapat begitu jg toleransi. Makanya banyak yg belajar, dengerin dia ngomong. Sekelas PhD dilawan.
@@ariastrwn7933
Basuki Tjahaja Purnama was punished according to law in the Republic of Indonesia for insulting Islam. During his work activities as governor of Jakarta at that time, he commented on a religion he did not follow. As a public official (governor), there should be no need to comment on a religion that he does not adhere to.
seandainya ga blunder waktu itu.... Padahal sdh bnyk inkompeten yg dia pecatin
@@henocksherlock3340 iya, padahal ahok kerjanya paling keliatan hasilnya
Yg lucu Ahok ditahan, Buni Yani yang terbukti motong video out of context juga di tahan😂
Very wise. Unlike in malaysia. wehave the very kld mamak that like to dip his filthy hands into this issue together eith yhe old goat from the past. They know they r out &bas nothing go rsise up rxcept what came up in the morning tegularly stir up this issue just for their eilly sake.
There is a reason why I hate Racism so much, or any discrimination towards minority, I was born in the time of Soeharto, and raise in an era where Indonesia has a very racist system toward the chinese indonesian, we even have different type of citizenship card with our native brother and sisters, we also have different standard when entering school, or facing bureaucracy in courts, or any other government institutions, not counting the hate towards Indonesian chinese at that era is massive, so we truly will never forget and will forever indebted for what President Gus dur did to change this, Still many things to do to make sure equality for the people of minority in Indonesia, but I am sure, we are on the path of doing so, maju Indonesia🇮🇩🇮🇩🇮🇩🇮🇩🇮🇩🇮🇩🇮🇩🇮🇩🇮🇩🇮🇩🇮🇩✌️✌️✌️✌️✌️✌️✌️✌️✌️
Indonesians have no major native religion. All prevalent major religion across different time periods came from outside and they change after sometimes. Maybe a new religion will become dominant after after some decades or centuries. Who knows!
We do however have six officially recognized religions: Roman Catholicism, Protestanism, Hinduism, Buddhism and Confucianism. There were plans to make Islam the state religion but some of the founding fathers disagree in consideration to the eastern part of Indonesia at large and the Batak region.
@@sefer-nv6cn islam is recognized by the government
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