🔦Olight got dominated! (Flashlight Showdown, Olight VS. Skilhunt)

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  • @maxlvledc
    @maxlvledc  ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Skilhunt EK1 (keychain) amzn.to/419ogDC
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    • @BOOSTEDLASER
      @BOOSTEDLASER ปีที่แล้ว

      I HAD AN OLIGHT CATCH ON FIRE..I NEVER REALLY LIKED THEM AT ALL. FOR A FEW REASONS

  • @scottc7376
    @scottc7376 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    Thanks for bringing attention to the Skilhunt brand, and enjoyed the vid. Why not also compare the water proof ratings, impact distance and the warranty? It appears from a quick check Olight wins out especially in the later two categories.

    • @maxlvledc
      @maxlvledc  ปีที่แล้ว +8

      It's same on waterproofing,but yea warranty is Olight for sure.

  • @sijonda
    @sijonda ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Should do some testing. When I've watched actual testing of lights, most don't perform up to their rating if not all. But generally the higher rated lights do better, at first.

    • @wesolowskimatt
      @wesolowskimatt ปีที่แล้ว

      Naaa. Reading specs from the box is much better. This is what almost everybody is doing, unboxing and reading info from instructions for around 10 minutes. Ofcourse not everybody, but even people with homemade lumen tubes don't really do tests. Their just checking levels.

    • @sijonda
      @sijonda ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@wesolowskimatt He might learn something about them he didn't know before.

    • @wesolowskimatt
      @wesolowskimatt ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@sijonda yeah. Sarcasm it was. 😉
      The testing would be great but not everyone has time. And time is needed. I'm actually agreeing with you, but he can do what ever he wants to. 🤷

    • @stevelee6667
      @stevelee6667 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      yes, without testing times and lumens........it means nothing.

  • @rag_man673
    @rag_man673 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Rotate the pocket clip on the Skilhunt under the charging port, the pocket clip will naturally fit into your finger creases, and the button will always be under your thumb when you pick it up. So that's a simple fix.

  • @happyknife8785
    @happyknife8785 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    2:00 Hmmmmm ...... you understand candela? Candela isn't "power", candela is beam intensity, IE: the Olight has less candela because it floods its beam (much better for a small light), a 1000 lumen thrower will have a bigger candela than a 2000 flood.

    • @moose2934
      @moose2934 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I explain it as the equivalent between horsepower and torque - do you want a drag strip car… or a tow pig? A Camaro or a Dually? That seems to cut through the general false-perception of the uninformed majority.

    • @balsalmalberto8086
      @balsalmalberto8086 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@moose2934 I am now more confused than when I started

    • @1211-n4d
      @1211-n4d หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@balsalmalberto8086 lmao

  • @klaudio07041985
    @klaudio07041985 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Are you going to show a comparison of the lights in dark?

    • @maxlvledc
      @maxlvledc  ปีที่แล้ว

      I find comparisons like that both time consuming and useless for 90% of the ppl watching. I rely on ppl like zeroair and 1lumen to verify output and runtime stats...I'? more of the General Overview kind-of reviewer lol

    • @armenchuck
      @armenchuck ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ​@@maxlvledc true carnival barker

  • @rossauce12
    @rossauce12 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Ur first comparrison is olights free light????

  • @granitejeepc3651
    @granitejeepc3651 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    sold on the fact that i hate non standard battery... need to use in all not just one light

  • @dkin
    @dkin ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The thing about both those two keychain lights is that they will end up in the garbage when both batteries die. This is the fact because the batteries are built in.

  • @ailivac
    @ailivac ปีที่แล้ว +2

    1:48 That's not how it works exactly.
    More intensity (candela) doesn't mean "more powerful;" it means a more tightly focused beam with longer throw. Sometimes the wider beam is actually more useful though.

  • @steven-un4iw
    @steven-un4iw ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Stopped running olights two years ago when one put a hole in my pocket. Since another three have failed me all using different batteries and all being different light styles. Have picked up some nitecore and some fénix lights since and they all seem to be holding up better.

    • @wesolowskimatt
      @wesolowskimatt ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You can not go wrong with fenix, at least not if you know what you are buying. If you need a quality light fenix is probably the best. Nitecore has also great offerings.

  • @JonGadget
    @JonGadget ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Interesting comparison Dom - I need to have a closer look at them!

  • @timothyvolkers5343
    @timothyvolkers5343 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love my olight mini buton but I don't like that the Olight batteries are for Olight lights only. Proprietary sucks

  • @JensenAzotea
    @JensenAzotea ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hey bro the terms sounded a little off to me, maybe just how you worded it. As I understand:
    Lumen=total light out put
    Candela=intensity of the beam/hotspot

    • @maxlvledc
      @maxlvledc  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Correct. In Videos like this it's easy to "cross the streams "

    • @JensenAzotea
      @JensenAzotea ปีที่แล้ว

      @@maxlvledc I figured so and I noticed you corrected later in the video! I love seeing the content you put up, keep up the good work 💪🏽

  • @Coup0705
    @Coup0705 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    E2A with recharge battery BlC 1100 is $28.90 with lower battery capacity. Don't see any much reviews on their products and shipping international .

    • @maxlvledc
      @maxlvledc  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yea, I didn't realize when I made this video that it was different price with the battery.

  • @jamesfair9751
    @jamesfair9751 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Yeah olight definitely messed up not running the 3.6 volt in the i5r. I know it’s not the led burning out because the regular i5t will run a lithium 3.7 14500 but shockingly the i3t runs a 10440 lithium even better.

  • @AmnesiaTanner
    @AmnesiaTanner ปีที่แล้ว +4

    One thing I have found, owning both brands, is that the Skilhunt’s center pin on the magnetic charging port (on the light itself) will rust extremely easily if you get it wet. This doesn’t happen with my Olight or my Armytek lights. Not sure why this happens, but it’s pretty annoying to have to clean the charging port with vinegar every time the light has been submerged for a length of time.

  • @juliendurnez8875
    @juliendurnez8875 ปีที่แล้ว

    whats the difference between cool whit high cri and neutral whit? I mean is it just another light color or is one color brither(more strong) than another?

  • @benbrown5159
    @benbrown5159 ปีที่แล้ว

    How do you like Surefire or Streamlight flashlights?

  • @nickpoodoo
    @nickpoodoo ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When I was looking for a flashlight for my duty belt I considered olights but hated all the proprietary batteries and chargers. Ended up going with a Fenix e35 and I love it.

    • @wesolowskimatt
      @wesolowskimatt ปีที่แล้ว

      Very smart choice. When it matters, go with fenix. When it's just a walk in the park, olight would do.

  • @JensenAzotea
    @JensenAzotea ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Wish I could use “dual fuel” or different batteries on my Olights. that programmable function is pretty sweet!

    • @Mister_Phafanapolis
      @Mister_Phafanapolis ปีที่แล้ว +2

      For "Gen 3" and newer, Olight moved to proprietary batteries. S1R II Batons and similar vintage could use standard 16340s but the Baton 3 uses some 16340-shaped nonsense.

    • @donaldstrader7241
      @donaldstrader7241 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You can use a primary CR123A battery in the Olight Perun 2 Mini LED Rechargeable Headlamp which will work up to the medium or 60 lumen level. I see the Neutral White which I strongly prefer is again available. Just use a discount code or try for a sale. At least at the moment, just ignore the blandishments of the pretty colors which are NOT available in neutral white, and go for the black NW. I have been daily carrying this right angled flashlight/headlamp since I go it. The ability of the headband to accept the clip is a big plus for use as an EDC. Other pluses are the return of NW, a battery level indicator, and a red function. It has a hot spot, giving it more candela.

    • @JensenAzotea
      @JensenAzotea ปีที่แล้ว

      @@donaldstrader7241 good to know about the battery! I actually just bought the perun mini 2 in Cool white a few weeks ago. Honestly wasn’t for sure which I would like better for a head lamp, but I heard the cool white is a bit brighter so I went that route. I have the Olink on the back of it to make it a bit easier to hold on to. I really didn’t realize how tiny that thing was going to be until I got it in hand

  • @palerider7171
    @palerider7171 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank for sharing information on an excellent option!

  • @runeass
    @runeass ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It’s good that olight got competition, they haven’t done anything different lately, just different color.

  • @DorkForge
    @DorkForge ปีที่แล้ว +11

    ...What? None of those are 'smashing' or 'dominating' in any of the comparisons you presented, you just leaned in one direction in a clear bias.
    -You focus on the candela as 'higher number is better' but... that's completely neglects flood vs throw preference.
    - The M200 has positioning you prefer... but doesn't carry as deep and seems to be visibly more bulky overall than the Baton 3 Pro.
    - This isn't the first time you've done this with prices, focusing on coupon prices for the competitor despite Olight running monthly sales that more than compensates the difference.
    - Olight's warranty is 5 years vs 2 on the Skilhunt...
    - Skilhunt's availability is much lower (in the UK smaller brands like Skilhunt aren't as easily available on Amazon)
    To be honest between this and previous, similar videos it just feels like you have a preference and bias for 'disruptor' brands and like being able to declare these brands winners in comparisons. Your own content doesn't show clear winners, it's just your biased commentary that did and focusing on numbers without actual testing (you don't have to film it, just do it), and talk of price without even considering an even playing field and warranties just... doesn't do your opinion justice.

    • @darbar2375
      @darbar2375 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This is exactly what I was thinking as I watched this video. Not a true, complete, or fair comparison. Thanks for putting it into words.

  • @rossauce12
    @rossauce12 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I think il try the skillhunt headlamp instead of the perun 2

  • @geeeeeeeezzzzzzzzzz
    @geeeeeeeezzzzzzzzzz ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Strange, I think I am coming around to liking this i5r 90CRI when I just use it with an Nimh AA and going back to your original i5r I was wrong vid I see that AA's will give a much longer run time (about to watch that vid you pointed to also though I remember watching it before but obviously nothing sank in then) so I might have found my niche for this torch as a desktop grab and on lower power I seem to like the warmer tint more.

    • @tobjectpascal
      @tobjectpascal ปีที่แล้ว

      Pokelit has a good cri, but I believe cri is a bit of a misdemeanor, high cri should be for very specific applications like looking at plants not getting you home, a 70cri would be absolutely fine

    • @geeeeeeeezzzzzzzzzz
      @geeeeeeeezzzzzzzzzz ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tobjectpascal Why should a 90CRI light not be allowed to get you home? I've just bought a 3rd Pokelit while they are on good offer and I got a Rider RX earlier also which strangely is more expensive but with worse run times. Yes I like the neutral white Pokelit but for outdoors my 1000 lumen pure white, CRI probably low?, TrustFire L2 or even MC1 is a better job. The High CRI especially the i5r are more like a novelty light rather than something really practical but nice as an alternative if you ever want a sort of warm pastel shades effect lol. I also got an i5t Plus and I like the more vibrant beam tone from that over the 90CRI i5r as the Plus just seems to make things pop a bit more otherwise they seem very similar, the Plus just slightly cooler. I still use my blueish Tool AA for reading as it makes any graphics look great (and is a good bedside table tail stander if careful) but so does the Pokelit though it's a strange torch having a moonlight mode but then no low mode? Still, If I had to start again I would be fine with a Pokelit mostly for indoors and the 2 Trustfires for either indoors or out. No Olight at all though they are ok but generally a bit of a let down in terms of performance compared to other brands in the AA/14500 size and I think they should really up their game a bit sharpish. They got the build great but then went soft on the actual performances. Tonight I took the i5t Plus and Pokelit outside to compare and the smaller Pokelit actually seems the brighter of the two, maybe as it's a bit cooler though they are both supposedly 5000k? and it is not as diffuse a beam as the i5. I do sort of like them all though as they are all a variation on the theme with different strengths and weaknesses and outright output is the Olight weakness.

  • @ParrotEater
    @ParrotEater ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi, I've been looking through your videos trying to find the best option for most inexpensive flashlight that has a compact design (typical single AA style flashlight, or the M200 in this video), and direct access to turbo that's at least 1000 Lumens, for everyday carry. Would love to know if you have any recommendations right now. Cheers!

    • @maxlvledc
      @maxlvledc  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      For AA, take a look at Sofirn SP10 Pro. But using standard AA you may get better throw from something like protac 1L-1AA. Lumintop Tool AA is also another good sub $20 option.

    • @serpent6710
      @serpent6710 ปีที่แล้ว

      A Wurkkos ts10 should run a AA if you did not want to run 14500. Aux leds, anduril2, 1400 on turbo and they are like 20 bucks. Hard to beat that, for that price.

    • @ParrotEater
      @ParrotEater ปีที่แล้ว

      @@maxlvledc Thanks so much

  • @TorchHacker
    @TorchHacker ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Acebeam Pokelit AA is a nice direct competitor to the Olight i5R

  • @77surefire
    @77surefire 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I agree reading off the specs instead of side by side comparisons in actual use isn't very helpful. Many manufacturers way over exaggerate their numbers or runtimes.
    I have only owned one Skilhunt, the H04 RC Headlamp (519a Tir lens). Very nice color and beam but put in my backpack and didnt use for maybe a month or longer. Tried to use and nothing, check battery and it was fine, swapped cells, cleaned threads etc and still couldn't get the light to turn on. Was about to give up on the light and contact warranty support but as a last effort got a pair of pliers and pulled/stretched the battery spring out and now it works. However I never dropped it and barely used it. Made me question their quality or durability.
    Also seeing how they only offer 2 years warranty doesn't give me a lot of confidence in their quality. By contrast Olight offers great customer service and lifetime warranty. Lots of their lights over perform their specs. Olights, Fenixs, Surefires etc I've had great luck with but my one Skilhunt experience has left me with mixed feelings about the light.
    If you want excellent quality and no nonsense warranty Olight or Fenix are great.
    If you want good quality and very wallet friendly prices Wurkkos or Sofirn are hard to beat.
    If you want customizability and specific leds, tints, drivers etc Emisar or Noctigan are amazing lights.
    Nitecore seems to be pushing boundries of performance and Zebralights are very high quality and efficient lights.
    I'm not sure where Skilhunt falls in this spectrum. They don't offer near the customizable options of Emisars, dont offer lifetime warranties or efficiency of Olight and nowhere near the value proposition of like Wurkkos and Sofirn.

  • @jimshort9266
    @jimshort9266 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for the reviews. I’m late to the video so all I can say is that I’m lucky I wasn’t looking for a flashlight of the 3 sizes you showed because Olight just had their anniversary sale and I would have been bummed if I bought one of those proprietary battery lights. The Olight website is kind of a mess to me and I don’t think I would have caught that distinction.

  • @jp313
    @jp313 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do they have something like Olights i3t? It takes a AAA

  • @majorpowell10
    @majorpowell10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for sharing your thoughts on the m200. I really love my m150 and have been considering getting the m200 as well. Skilhunt has been doing great lately!

    • @Mister_Phafanapolis
      @Mister_Phafanapolis ปีที่แล้ว

      Is there a reason that most AA/14500 flashlights do not use an E-Switch like the M150? I much prefer that interface and all the features/abilities that come with it over a twisty or clicky interface.

    • @mariob4243
      @mariob4243 ปีที่แล้ว

      Do u also have olights, what's your opinion on durability. I find other lights have options I like better than olight, but I keep using olight because they are strong and their switches hold up well.

    • @majorpowell10
      @majorpowell10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mariob4243 yeah I do have plights and I think they are very well made. Pretty solid.

    • @HP-in8pl
      @HP-in8pl ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm tempted to pick one of the m150 up. It seems like a solid edc light to replace my olight i5t. The design of the m150 seems like it would be good to clip on a hat

  • @rossauce12
    @rossauce12 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Bro ur comparisons are crazy. The second olight is a aaa not a custom battery??

  • @iosonoi.7132
    @iosonoi.7132 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You’re mistaken. The i5r can use standard 14500. I even use a vapcell 14500 on.

    • @maxlvledc
      @maxlvledc  ปีที่แล้ว

      Using a standard 14500 will make it into a one mode light with less output than the max of 350, I saw around 250-300. And it WILL burn out the circuit..so no...it's not 14500 compatible unless you want worse performance (and it won't drop in output,meaning it can also burn up or be a fire hazard)

  • @1986subway
    @1986subway ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've had the first olight I bought for 7 years. I'm a maintenance tech use it everyday

  • @deykno87
    @deykno87 ปีที่แล้ว

    What's a budget flashlight this size.range.3-6
    Inch's with a magnetic base to stick while working

    • @rossauce12
      @rossauce12 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Just get the olight baton 3 or baton 3 pro. The pro has a bigger battery but both are about as bright as each other. in the video. All olights have magnetic caps. Except a few aaa or aa ones.

    • @77surefire
      @77surefire 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Baton 3 pro is an excellent light, sizewise, efficiency, durability. It's been my worklight for last 6+ months and I've dropped mine many times and still works no issue.
      That being said Wurkkos or Sofirn make good cheap lights with magnetic tail caps. I really like the Wurkkos HD01. More than the Arkfield pro because it throws much better, the Arkfield pro has NO throw at all. Great for up close work but don't ask it to illuminate anything at distance. It actually out throws my Baton 3 pro also but Baton murders it on efficiency, battery size runtime etc.

  • @wadeduvall7026
    @wadeduvall7026 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have the M200V3 and M150V3 and they are absolute BEASTS. The M150V3 is basically like the Sofirn SP10 Pro but with a lot higher fit and finish. Also you can use the M150V3 clip on the SP10 and it makes it a LOT better.

  • @Sanctified_Leather
    @Sanctified_Leather ปีที่แล้ว

    Where can I find the Skillhunt E2A, i do not much for Skillhunt on Amazon. Thank You for the content much appreciated.

    • @maxlvledc
      @maxlvledc  ปีที่แล้ว

      I put a link in description to skilhunt's website where the E2A is still available.

  • @thisguy2659
    @thisguy2659 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love my Skilhunt H3 something. I’ve owned it for 5-6 years and haven’t had any issues. Also my i5R with the E2A. Never liked the i5 but instantly enjoyed the E2A. Great company and lights. That M200 looks tempting, but I’m far too happy with my Baton 3Pro….. love seeing the Vic Spirit w/in arms reach!

  • @FrancisRoyCA
    @FrancisRoyCA ปีที่แล้ว

    Why does the large version of the Skilhunt keep blinking?

    • @240atomic
      @240atomic ปีที่แล้ว

      That can be turned off in the menu.

  • @bahjinelson3986
    @bahjinelson3986 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The Fenix E18R v2 is one of my favorites. Love to see a comparison between it and the Baton 3.

    • @maxlvledc
      @maxlvledc  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not worth is, the fenix has a abysmally bad UI..great hardware..but can't overcome that shortcoming

    • @karanbantawa6236
      @karanbantawa6236 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@maxlvledc Yes, one of the least intuitive UIs. I wouldn't want to hold down the button to switch on my torch.

    • @bahjinelson3986
      @bahjinelson3986 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I prefer the Fenix UI because it is less likely to turn on accidentally and I prefer scrolling through settings by clicking rather than holding. Also, I have a couple USB batteries, allowing me to charge one battery while I work and still use the flashlight simultaneously. Magnetic charging is great for EDC but not for extended use in my experience.

    • @karanbantawa6236
      @karanbantawa6236 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@bahjinelson3986 A very fair point on "clicking rather than holding" . Respect your priorities and preferences. Evidently, safety is indeed important. God bless! 🙂

    • @wesolowskimatt
      @wesolowskimatt ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@bahjinelson3986 it is really great light. My was really abused in the last time and now has scratches and dents but after all this, works with no issues whatsoever. Build quality on this thing is top notch. @Maxlvledc is over reacting. UI is ok, is just opposite to most lights, but not all of them, lumintop d2 and d1 have similar UI. For fenix users and normal people (not flashoholics and edc nuts) it's not existing problem. Am I sometimes holding switch on this light when I want to change brightness? Absolutely. Yes. 🤣🤣
      But still, this light is one tough mf, with amazing reliability and on top of that fenix has great warranty.

  • @McRootbeer
    @McRootbeer ปีที่แล้ว

    Any chance the skillhunt m200 can be used as a battery bank as well? That would help me justify spending $50 on a new flashlight when I barely get any use out of my lumintop tool AA. 😆

    • @maxlvledc
      @maxlvledc  ปีที่แล้ว

      The ec300 is..not the 18650 one

  • @danielstevenson1250
    @danielstevenson1250 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is going to be my number one non lethal EDC. I just want the best dependable fight light.

  • @rossauce12
    @rossauce12 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hows the new brands customer service? Olights customer service and shipping is 100% i hope the skill hunt is good too. It was nice olight even sent a flashlight on my birthday

  • @jamesfair9751
    @jamesfair9751 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The candela doesn’t mean it’s brighter it’s just got a more focused beam more spot than flood

  • @fabianvazquez5556
    @fabianvazquez5556 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    slight correction. e2a is $30 with the battery

  • @BLDRUNNER81
    @BLDRUNNER81 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yeah, I found the EK1 one night and decided on the EK1 since I could not get anymore of the lumintop pico, which is pretty close to the same size.

  • @AtomicBleach
    @AtomicBleach ปีที่แล้ว

    Still trying to find something that can come close to replacing my Baton 3. I really wish they still had the SR1 Turbo S. It was perfection with a kiss when it came to a compact EDC flashlight. Pocketclip could be rotated in any direction so the button wouldn't wear a hole in it from rubbing against the inside of your pocket, the clip had great retention and locked up perfectly with my m-lok rails on my ARs. It could take standard CR123s... I'm endlessly frustrated with the new style olight pocket clips (baton 3 I'm looking at you) and their proprietary batteries.

  • @ModernSurvivalSense
    @ModernSurvivalSense ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The problem with going on stated specs when it comes to flashlights is that many flashlight manufacturer do not publish accurate numbers.
    For example, the i1r2 Pro vs the EK1 (per 1lumen tests)
    Olight i1R2 Pro
    Candela
    Stated: 580
    Measured: 729
    Lumens (High)
    Stated: 180
    Measured:
    - On - 226
    - @30s - 209
    - @10min - 151
    Skilhunt EK1
    Candela
    Stated: 1100
    Measured: 905
    Lumens (High)
    Stated: 180
    Measured:
    - On - 161
    - @30s - 152
    - @10min - 117
    So the Olight is brighter and the runtime difference on high is 2 min, which is insignificant.
    On low, the Skilhunt runs at 11 lumens for 7.5 hours and the Olight runs at 8.5 lumens for 13.5 hours.
    Olight tends to understate their figures, where most manufacturers tend to overstate. Without actually testing the lights one can't be sure what's correct.
    *edit - The same holds true of the E2A, where 1lumen was only able to measure 328lm with the 14500 cell, not the 600lm that was advertised. The m200 has gotten better with it's claims, but the candela difference between the two results in a whole 2 meters throw because, again, Skilhunt is slightly overexaggerating the light's performance and Olight is underexaggerating. At startup, turbo is 8,938 vs 8,800 on the two lights. At high, the Skilhunt has a slight brightness and 10m throw advantage... but the Olight runs 40% longer at virtually the same brightness.

  • @petersimeone3491
    @petersimeone3491 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I usually like your reviews, but I'm not sure we watched the same video here. According to your own stats [some were mis-spoken?], every comparison was a clear TIE. The only thing Skilhunt 'wins' on is price and that's because Olight insists on playing their monthly 'sale' game.
    The skilhunts are just a different light. They focus [no pun intended] on lights with more throw and if that's what you want, then they are a better light for you. And the size difference in the keychain lights...come'on, you're talking miniscule differences.
    One last thing that you, and many others, get wrong is the i5r switch. You do NOT have to turn it off to get to high. You simply double half-tap when off to get to high, just like every other light of this type. Think Streamlight 1L1AA and some Surefire. It's like that so you can't accidently go to low, when in high.
    I hate to say it, but you really sounded like you had to give the 'win' to skilhunt in a paid promotion.

    • @wesolowskimatt
      @wesolowskimatt ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Stop it. Stop it right now! He just was paid by wurkkos. Now skillhunt? 😳 somebody is making a 💰.
      🤣🤣🤣
      I'm joking.
      Probably, he's just tired wit olight's prices and mentioned by you monthly sales games.

    • @maxlvledc
      @maxlvledc  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Actually none of them are paying me lol, I get about 3-4% commission from Amazon and 10% from olight like any other person using their friend code.

    • @karanbantawa6236
      @karanbantawa6236 ปีที่แล้ว

      Very well said. And the "paid promotion" part may be a reason for sounding a little too braised. 😅 No?

  • @chase1094
    @chase1094 ปีที่แล้ว

    So a couple of things about the first two lights as I own both, The size difference is mostly about thermal mass. I have the High CRI version of the Skillhunt and I find that the slightly less efficient emitter can get a little warmer and the Olight with the cooler emitter and higher thermal mass stays cooler for longer. Now the temperature the Skillhunt gets to is nowhere high enough to be a problem, but thats most likely why Olights light is bigger. the other notable difference I've found is that the Olight has much better threads. My Skillhunt kinda grinds when I screw it in and unscrew it. And finally the Skillhunt can actually come apart to lube the threads where as the Olight does not. You gently pull it while twisting to the left to pull the head off the Skillhunt and use a good silicone lube. I wear the Skillhunt on a 550 cord necklace with a lumitop GITD diffuser on it daily and I don't even notice I'm wearing it.

    • @maxlvledc
      @maxlvledc  ปีที่แล้ว

      that diffuser idea is genius!

  • @rossauce12
    @rossauce12 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I wish they put a tail cap power on both

  • @paulyb_tech
    @paulyb_tech ปีที่แล้ว

    Any UK sellers?
    Thanks

    • @maxlvledc
      @maxlvledc  ปีที่แล้ว

      Not sure, I know they ship directly from their website

  • @DocDazzler
    @DocDazzler ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I agree with many of your points and I only have one skillhunt M150 V3 light and really like it, but you seem to be very biased toward candela. A thrower is great, but a flood is more useful in most of my daily uses.
    One thing I’d like skillhunt to add is the auto off timer. I use it most nights when I go to bed.
    I would like Olight to offer more neutral, high CRI emitters and the choosable turbo, medium and ultra low are nice, but a bit of a gimmick if you ask me, although it does allow one light to fit different preferences. I always want the lowest moonlight and the highest turbo. One other big negative for me with the skillhunt which you mentioned is the charging port opposite and a similar size and feel to the switch. This is a much bigger issue for me that it appeared to be for you.
    In conclusion, I think all 3 lights you compared were a wash between each other. One consideration is build quality. I view Olight as having a slightly better quality, but skillhunt is close with a lower price. I also don’t care at all about different battery uses in the lights, so I don’t consider that important to me. I welcome the competition to push Olight to make improvements and I will buy more skillhunt lights as well.
    Thanks for your input. Sorry for the long response. I appreciate your thoughts.

    • @maxlvledc
      @maxlvledc  ปีที่แล้ว

      All good! Appreciated!

  • @rodgreene2687
    @rodgreene2687 ปีที่แล้ว

    The top brands are aligned as: Surefire, Streamlight then the others like O-light, Thrunight, Nitcore…

  • @davidbendig961
    @davidbendig961 ปีที่แล้ว

    seeing the red light go on and off gives me serious Terminator / silent countdown to desaster vibes.

    • @maxlvledc
      @maxlvledc  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oh, I forgot to mention you could turn that light off lols

  • @АлексейТульчинский
    @АлексейТульчинский หลายเดือนก่อน

    Besides this, there is something else. This is the quality in general. Maybe functionally SkilHunt is better in some ways. But the v3 SkilHunt that I had had a crookedly installed blue bezel at the end of the head (misaligned thread + also tilt). And also a very light button, turned on from the slightest touch. And also after working in the second moonlight (aprox 1-2 min, it switched to high mode by itself. And also weak anodizing.

    • @АлексейТульчинский
      @АлексейТульчинский หลายเดือนก่อน

      Since then I have not bought any more Skilhunt, but I have bought several Olights ))). Still, a quick comparison and operation are different. Quality still costs money.

    • @АлексейТульчинский
      @АлексейТульчинский หลายเดือนก่อน

      But it's worth giving credit to the lighting of that Skilhunt, it was very good. But again, this is Nichiya's merit actually ))). It was 150 v3 if anything

  • @kdks7843
    @kdks7843 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like Skilhunt's products. Great flashlights.

  • @rossauce12
    @rossauce12 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I hate how everyone hates on olight. Why cant u just like lights from every brand. Most people have never even had the olight they just heard they dont like them

  • @buckcherry2564
    @buckcherry2564 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    olight is the only one I have seen take a hit from a shotgun (buck) and be totally fine with dents. I EDC a warrior3, but outside that, I dont think I use olight for any other flashlight need. The proprietary charger and batteries kill it as an "only light I use". If they threw a USB-C on the battery itself
    (keeping the mag charger as well) and if the full-press on the tail DIDNT lock out when the light is locked, they would be perfect, but they really like their proprietary crap and it doesnt look like it is changing...so I have been shopping around. I still love my olights, but i'll flip if someone else does it better.
    I dont think these do it for me, but they also are not replacing anything for me (I dont have my Baton anymore).
    Olight for EDC. RovyVon for Keychain lights. Hanklight(or other fancy Anduril multi-emitter things) for house lights. Wurkkos in the vehicles/bags.
    Thanks for the vid! Always good to be on the lookout for alternatives. I dont think these dethrone olight for EDC, but it is great seeing competition in that class!

  • @secondmilestone
    @secondmilestone ปีที่แล้ว

    Their E3A is also better than Olight's i3E, imo. Not much difference in function, but it offers LED options.

  • @martinezzz2469
    @martinezzz2469 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Olight wins with points to redeem and freebies and most of the designs and colors look better. Looking forward to trying skilhunt tho

  • @darrellbroomhall7020
    @darrellbroomhall7020 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey M thanks for another great vlog, and making me aware of Skillhunt flights.

  • @alextaplin7354
    @alextaplin7354 ปีที่แล้ว

    In my honest opinion, the only thing Olight does significantly better than other brands is the aesthetics. Every Olight has always just looked hot in the same way that a luxury car does. Shame they don't live up to their appearance and price in performance, especially the "QOL" stats like tint and CRI. Only three Olights have properly stood out to be by performance, they are the H2R Nova NW, M2R Pro and the Marauder Mini.

  • @eatmoreporkporky4342
    @eatmoreporkporky4342 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have the skilhunt E2A and the M150 v3 and they're both excellent. I've had some real stimkers regarding emitters with olights, some were very green which I hate. Thankfully I sold them off, very undewhelming compared to other upcoming brands like sofrin, wurkkos, and skilhunt. Olight is decent for the freebies though, ive got a whole drawer full of their small lights. But I love the nichia 512 emitter choices on skilhunt. I would say the build quality feels as good as olight on the 2 I have- the M150 and E2A. The sofrins not quite as good but good and great prices. But the latest wurkkos mini thrower TS11 is built like a tank, cool white but no greenish tint 😉 did like olight when I first started getting into flashlights, but have since moved on exceot for the freebies. Much more interesting stuff from other manufacturers, like rovyvon and nitecore too. And they've all caught up to olight in quality imo.

  • @randomescu
    @randomescu 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Skillhunt seems to be good but the price plus transport for China make them very close to Olight price. and i can get an Olight in max 2 days while a Skillhunt will be delivered in 2-3 weeks.
    for beatable (at work) flashlights i pick Sofirn that are really cheaper and also delivered in 1-2 days. but the quality and finish is noticeable below Olight or any other big name.

  • @jhndijkman
    @jhndijkman ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks, for the efforts. Cheers

  • @HtownDooDooBrown
    @HtownDooDooBrown 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thanks for the honest video. I've owned multiple lights from both brands over the years and agree with you. Nothing wrong with Olight, they're just boring and clunky to me. It's sad that Olight fanboys are trying so hard to keep this brand down out of misguided loyalty. Skilhunt all the way...

  • @mrhairypalm5006
    @mrhairypalm5006 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    You should compare these after several months of continuous illumination I think you'll find the olight will hardly lose any illumination. as it is not slowly burning out the bead at A rate these other torches do when they're maxing out the light beads.
    Also Olights batteries are from Panasonic. their military grade battery cells and at Extreme cold and heat they will not lose their charge.
    Just some information I picked up from olight whilst having a conversation 👍🏻

    • @maxlvledc
      @maxlvledc  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      What what?!?! Where did you see the Panasonic info?

    • @mrhairypalm5006
      @mrhairypalm5006 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@maxlvledc it was years ago when everyone started complaining about the batteries. then I saw someone testing on TH-cam can't remember the channel and they said these batteries last really well in the cold so I contacted olight then ask them and that's the information they gave me. 👍🏻

    • @XperiencePureness
      @XperiencePureness ปีที่แล้ว

      What you have said makes you sound like a die hard fanboy because to prove what you have said is true you have to do a scientific experiment by comparing the Olight flashlight with another flashlight which has a similar output then turn on both flashlights for the same amount of time and after a few years compare the performance degradation of the two flashlights the more samples you use the more legitimate your data will be.
      But if we use the reviews on 1lumen, Zeroair, BLF and several other sites that have been reviewing flashlights from various brands for years as a reference, then we can conclude that the Olight flashlight is not the best, both in terms of performance and efficiency.

  • @bryoncatterall
    @bryoncatterall ปีที่แล้ว +2

    All in all I much rather have olight, size or lumens don't matter as much but one thing I do like is how olight looks so much better...

  • @bills.2214
    @bills.2214 ปีที่แล้ว

    So I have to just ask, have you seen the price for the Thrunite T3 on Amazon? It has been $29.99 for the past week (end of March 2023). I could not pass up this price, and I have to say I am really enjoying the flashlight. UI is great, can go from off to moonlight, turn it on and it stays on the last level used (what ever you ramp up or down to), and you can double click to turbo if necessary. It charges with a USB type C, deep carry clip and not magnetic base. Yes I have found it a bit thicker than I have been used to, being a 21700, but the clip really sets this apart from other Thrunite's b/c it is so deep carry. Just FYI.

  • @KungFuTweety1
    @KungFuTweety1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The proprietary battery is a complete turn-off for me.... I'd rather have the skill hunt...

  • @gmac6503
    @gmac6503 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I wouldn't buy the EK1 since I bought 2 and the orange one never worked and the green one lasted 5 days so I will not even attempt another Skilhunt flashlight because of that experience

    • @HtownDooDooBrown
      @HtownDooDooBrown 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I found a butthurt Olight troll.. stop lying. LOL

    • @gmac6503
      @gmac6503 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @ I have 25 or more Olights and they're great. I was talking about one keychain brand from Skilhunt and I bought two and they both died within 5 days. So go take a hike! If you want to put $1000 wager and the loser has to pay to the other person's favorite charity let me know coward. I have over 150 flashlights so I think we all know who the troll is here and it's not me so FO.

  • @gonzalez7805
    @gonzalez7805 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lets get some sofirn in there , also how about some beam shots?

  • @tobjectpascal
    @tobjectpascal ปีที่แล้ว

    There's a common misconception about warm emitters and high cri
    Cri and color isn't the same, you could have a cool white with 95+ cri and a warm white with only 70 cri ...
    Cri had nothing to do with the temperature

  • @JCreole
    @JCreole ปีที่แล้ว +31

    I don’t know…just something about olight and their colors and design just looks better.

    • @happyknife8785
      @happyknife8785 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Far better designs

    • @wesolowskimatt
      @wesolowskimatt ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I know what it is.
      Olight products don't look generic. You know its Olight when you see one, with every ather light most often than not it's not the case. Most flashlights looks kind of this same. Yes, there are models like fw3a and few others, but most of the time even people like you and me have to look closer to know what someone is using.
      Acebeam has some characteristic products but not every single one is not "standard" looking.
      I would say that ledlenser is also like this,
      But because I have love, hate relationships with theirs products, I don't wanna talk about them. 🤣

    • @alekswanson7309
      @alekswanson7309 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Wuben's also nice, the x-0 is quite nice and has great stats.

    • @JR-lg7fd
      @JR-lg7fd ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's that sweet sweet logo on the side that gives it ohhh so much more *quahaaalityyy*... and you get to tell everyone you know that you carry an 0LIGHT (yay) and you're better than them.
      and you do crossfit and you got the c0vid vaccine and you're vegan

    • @adamimberti6948
      @adamimberti6948 ปีที่แล้ว

      I like the magnetic charging, they always have the best run times on turbo and their UI is always the closest to what I want for any given light.
      I want to be the guy who says well, actually, this other less ubiquitous brand is actually better.... I usually am that guy with most stuff, but every time I go to buy a new light Olight has more of what I'm looking for and less of what I'm not looking for.
      I've got a warrior mini, a warrior 3s, a seeker 3 pro in the mail and when it arrives I'm probably going to order a marauder mini too. The only other light I have is a Rovyvon a5x.
      It turns out this brand who drowns reviewers in free swag for favourable reviews and aggressively markets and discounts their products to choke out their competition also makes a really good flashlight.

  • @kahuna1247
    @kahuna1247 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Here's the thing for me... I'm heavily invested in both the Ledlenser and Olight ecosystems with no desire to change, as they are just fine for my needs. Props to this video for showing us alternatives though 🙂

    • @zakreviews2623
      @zakreviews2623 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's exactly why some of these companies use so much proprietary stuff.

  • @dougritter429
    @dougritter429 ปีที่แล้ว

    What kind of name is Skilhunt for a flightlight company?

    • @maxlvledc
      @maxlvledc  ปีที่แล้ว

      🤷‍♂️🤷‍♀️

  • @jimmyross1672
    @jimmyross1672 ปีที่แล้ว

    god bless brother ill see you in the next video thanks for making this video for people like me

    • @maxlvledc
      @maxlvledc  ปีที่แล้ว

      www.skilhunt.com/product/m200-v3-1400-lumens-18650-magnetic-usb-rechargeable-led-flashlight/

  • @peddypeoples941
    @peddypeoples941 ปีที่แล้ว

    Olight is very unsympathetic for me right out of the gate with their propriatary batteries. I vape and have tons of powerful 18650s and chargers, so the magnetic thingy is moot too. I am fairly new to edc flashlights and bought a Sofirn sc32 some months ago, very nice recommendation from you. A few days ago i got a Emisar d4v2 from Hank and this thing is just bonkers, relatively cheap, highly customisable and very powerful, also very well made. With Anduril 2 it speaks to my inner tinker and i love this light, its a hotrod, i bet it blows both of those lights out of the water, easy. Please get a d4v2, or the d4sv2 with 21700s, those are as nerdy as it gets.

  • @damaylaphoenix1155
    @damaylaphoenix1155 ปีที่แล้ว

    nitecore is the only brand that can match or beat Olight! they have won more than ten red dot awards!

  • @scottharris6423
    @scottharris6423 ปีที่แล้ว

    In the process of buying couple new flashlights. Will give skilhunt serious condersiderations. By the the way i purchased the LM Charge + s30v at $120 on your recommendation. Thank for what you do. I have a question re: a item i saw on Esty, but more on that later.

  • @geeeeeeeezzzzzzzzzz
    @geeeeeeeezzzzzzzzzz ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Olight do make a 90CRI i5r as I have one in my hand that I got the other day so I'm currently trying to decide how much I dislike it lol.. I'm not the biggest fan of high CRI buttery light effect but that they are not designed to properly take advantage of standard 14500s is very bad indeed and Olight don't care because we all bought them anyhow like the idiots we are, except you who gets them for free but you did warn us to be fair.

    • @maxlvledc
      @maxlvledc  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Indeed, although it took getting to Diamond before I started getting them sent. And even then I still have to make content that is (as honest as I can be) fair.

    • @karanbantawa6236
      @karanbantawa6236 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@maxlvledc I see. It does take effort to get to the Diamond club. Well justified. Keep posting. And love your: "NOW HERE'S WHERE IT GETS INTERESTING..." Great line. Always catches my attention! 🤗

  • @michaelswick4251
    @michaelswick4251 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dominate is a strong word. I don’t know where you get prices. There’s an olight sale every month and plenty of 2 market sales as well

  • @Hammerback0
    @Hammerback0 ปีที่แล้ว

    Interesting. Personally i go to an unaffiliated party (such as the torque test channel) for actual lumen/candela ratings. Olight advertising 500 candela, the other 1100. Of course Olight may actually make 50, the other may make 25? Companies advertise very unrealistic numbers. I dont trust motor oil and filters to 20,000 miles as advertised, nor do I believe a car audio amplifier from wal mart that cost 49.99 makes 10,000 watts.

  • @paulstoyek381
    @paulstoyek381 ปีที่แล้ว

    Unless your a LEO, WOWTAC lights are hard to beat for the price..

    • @maxlvledc
      @maxlvledc  ปีที่แล้ว

      LEO?

    • @wesolowskimatt
      @wesolowskimatt ปีที่แล้ว

      @@maxlvledc law enforcement officer 🤦 dude English is my 3th language

  • @ronmatson5502
    @ronmatson5502 ปีที่แล้ว

    Olight feels like it has a soul,and the extended run time is better because who wants to charge shit that the single reason i went to rechargeable run time and cost in the long run

  • @wesfoulds47
    @wesfoulds47 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Skilhunt is the best 😊

  • @1stfloorguy59
    @1stfloorguy59 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like both light brands but customer service is up there with the best for olight. Really quick responses to any issue. And now with the lifetime warrenty it makes it way more apealing to the average person just looking for a good light.

  • @toddd7444
    @toddd7444 ปีที่แล้ว

    IS THE BEST ONE FOR THE MONEY Olight Baton 3 Pro Max 3000 warm lights wheelchair larry Merry Christmas

  • @Studat
    @Studat ปีที่แล้ว

    I love olight but they do lack in candela against some other brands out there. Warrior 3s comes to mind. As a full sized light it has around 24,000 candela. Nitecore equivalent models have 40,000 to 63,500 candela.

    • @77surefire
      @77surefire 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      But remember beam pattern also has a huge effect on candela ratings. The Warrior 3s has a Huge hotspot and I'm always impressed it is able to throw as far as it can considering how large and usable the hotspot is.
      A lot of lights with really high candela ratings or throwers have pencil beams or very small, very concentrated hotspots. My Thrunite Catapult Pro has a CD rating of around 200k and easily out throws the Warrior 3S but I find the Warrior has a far more usable beam in most situations.
      Not saying this is always the case and I don't have a ton of personal experience with Nitecores but I would like to check out their lights cause they do have great performance and candela ratings. But hotspot size and beam pattern, flood etc also usually have to be taken into account when choosing a light.

    • @Studat
      @Studat 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@77surefire Nice reply mate. As for the hotspot the Nitecore MH12pro is pretty close to the olight with far superior throw and decent amounts of spill. Again, I am a huge olight fan and have multiple copy's of the the same lights because of those awesome colourways. Another stand-out for Nitecore is the P23i.

    • @77surefire
      @77surefire 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Studat Good information to know, I might have to pick one up. I've had my eye on the newer MT1C/MT2C, look like nice throwers with a simple interface & reasonable price. And the MH12 or EDC33 have always looked like nice lights. I do think it's really interesting they are making their own LEDs. Maybe other large manufacturers will try to go this route in the near future. Anyways thanks for the reply. Can't afford to get anymore lights at this time though, recently ordered a few Emisars that are currently in transit haha.

    • @Studat
      @Studat 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@77surefire you're a really person. I enjoyed shared my veiws and if you lived close you could use mine. I have a very large collection 😬

  • @765outdoors
    @765outdoors 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The E2A HIGH CRI.
    Incredible just saying.

  • @Nordraw
    @Nordraw ปีที่แล้ว

    You mean a concerted effort to copy O-light with cheaper parts don't you?

  • @dougritter429
    @dougritter429 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Olight is more stylish, have color options, and better marketing. Design matters. Some people pay more for better asthetics.

  • @Nordraw
    @Nordraw ปีที่แล้ว

    Which company will be in business a year from now? I wonder.

  • @ibpositivemostly7437
    @ibpositivemostly7437 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cool video thanks.

  • @ParkerBinion
    @ParkerBinion 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have the EK1 in 5K on my keys. It's great for indoor use and take the dog outside to pee use.

    • @maxlvledc
      @maxlvledc  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      did you have issues with it having parasitic drain? mine kept going dead.

    • @ParkerBinion
      @ParkerBinion 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@maxlvledc sorry to hear. No issues for me.

  • @vp2747
    @vp2747 ปีที่แล้ว

    It seems like flashlight companies are not innovating like they used to, they're getting stuck!!!

  • @ww2u873
    @ww2u873 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Where's the boxing for the olights aaahaha you sponsored by Skilhund I could go on for about 3 days talkin about this. Olight still the King of the hill

  • @HtownDooDooBrown
    @HtownDooDooBrown 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    LOL at the Olight butthurt. It's OK people, they're inexpensive... try Skilhunt and enjoy the superiority... Of all the things to be a fanboy of... I've been into LED lights since the turn of the century. Skilhunt is just better. Nothing wrong with Olight though... If you don't like Skilhunt, that just means more for people like me who appreciate the finer things in life.