Curious. Is this 24,000 lb rear engine chassis in wide use today in the motor home industry? What motor home companies are using this chassis? And, lastly, what does this chassis cost?
I asked my company to put some new shocks on the front of my truck. They installed Sachs shocks. I could feel every bump on the road. I took them off and bought some Gabriel shocks. They rode much better but started to leak after 30,000 miles.
That's a reasonable question. The transverse beam (featured starting @ 0:56) twists, allowing roll but resisting it like any stabilizer (anti-roll) bar.
In one photo you they show the axle housing turned so that the opening for the diff gears face the air bags. In other words the air bags would be first and the pivot point to the rear of the drive axle. In the final pic with the entire chassis it shows the air bags in the rear with the pivot point to the front. This matters a great deal for ride quality as the axle tends to move up and away from bumps in the road. Anyone else remember the ride quality of the old Jeeps and Fords with the spring shackles outboard of the axles in the front? Need to fire the editor of the video.
@@sparklesparklesparkle6318 Go four wheeling. You break stuff. You not got money. You fix. You go again. You break again. You fix again and have less money. Now you smarter. "Experience is the best teacher. And you will learn, my God you will learn." C.S. Lewis
The axle is shown consistently without the pinion carrier, with a flat panel closing the housing (with a "V-RIDE" logo on it). That panel is always on the air bag side (opposite of the V-arms), because that is toward the rear, where the transmission is in a rear-engine chassis... the example being used in this video. This is a rear suspension, and the control arms are always anchored to the frame forward of the axle, as they should be in a rear suspension. In the MC chassis, the engine is in the front so the axle would be oriented the other way, with the suspension mounted the same way as always... control arm mounts in front, air bags in rear. The editor of this video did nothing wrong; Big Chucky in Kentucky just doesn't understand how this suspension is installed.
That's a scam. It's nothing new and won't be a revolution. The v-rods are necessary because you have an air suspension system which requires stabilizers to keep the axle in place. I've worked on trucks from the 90's and they had it. Not sure if that's a german thing but since Freightliner is part of the Mercedes-Benz group, it should be used on those trucks.
holmes1956O if you need that much travel just buy an M939 or an M35 I highly doubt people who own RVs need long travel suspension I mostly see them on highway or the RV park
HERPY DERPEDY Its not the amount of travel that is the problem with this type of suspension it is the lack of articulation, research that word if you are not familiar with its meaning. Freitliner suspension is terrible for this type of problem
Im not sure about this design....why are the ends of the upper links opposed by 90 degrees? Its always binding on one end when the suspension compresses/extends. Are the lower links fused together with the crosstube? That would help control sway, but limit performance on uneven surfaces.....
The two angled upper links act like a virtual A-arm, and in fact a variation of this design also sold as V-Ride uses an A-arm. The upper links (or A-arm) control both axle wind-up and lateral location. Angled upper arms have been widely used in cars, and to a much lesser extent in heavy trucks. It doesn't bind, but it does require some bushing deflection since ball joints are not used in the angled link version. The lower links are rigidly attached to the crosstube. Yes, it means that the crosstube (which they call a transverse beam, because it carries the springs on the ends) distorts in torsion as a stabilizer bar. Compliance for uneven roads and resistance to vehicle roll are always in conflict and any design is a compromise between them.
does not exist more powerful and simple suspension than Torsion Bar suspension. Maintenance free or little, cheap, simple, guarantee unlimited lifetime use (until you do something stupid).
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We've upgraded our suspension, its not the 1940's anymore!! We are now in the 1960's!!
30 years old Volvo bus had those..
Most buses have pneumatic suspension
Hahaha thats true
Dont worry they will be a day when USA discover metric system, and this will be revolutionary invention to use all over the world
Curious. Is this 24,000 lb rear engine chassis in wide use today in the motor home industry? What motor home companies are using this chassis? And, lastly, what does this chassis cost?
What will happen if one of the rear wheel fell down on a damaged road
I asked my company to put some new shocks on the front of my truck. They installed Sachs shocks. I could feel every bump on the road. I took them off and bought some Gabriel shocks. They rode much better but started to leak after 30,000 miles.
Drive a Volvo with rear air bag suspension, good at first but now rides like crap.
@@rrssmooth6643 Replace the shocks
but still manage to crack chassis frames.
so what happens when one tire lifts but the other doesnt? does the whole rear end dip or does it start twisting things that shouldnt be twisted?
same as a semi they work beautiful.
That's a reasonable question. The transverse beam (featured starting @ 0:56) twists, allowing roll but resisting it like any stabilizer (anti-roll) bar.
In one photo you they show the axle housing turned so that the opening for the diff gears face the air bags. In other words the air bags would be first and the pivot point to the rear of the drive axle. In the final pic with the entire chassis it shows the air bags in the rear with the pivot point to the front. This matters a great deal for ride quality as the axle tends to move up and away from bumps in the road. Anyone else remember the ride quality of the old Jeeps and Fords with the spring shackles outboard of the axles in the front? Need to fire the editor of the video.
where do you learn this stuff i don't want to be a stupid anymore
@@sparklesparklesparkle6318 Go four wheeling. You break stuff. You not got money. You fix. You go again. You break again. You fix again and have less money. Now you smarter. "Experience is the best teacher. And you will learn, my God you will learn." C.S. Lewis
Its in a diesel pusher.
The axle is shown consistently without the pinion carrier, with a flat panel closing the housing (with a "V-RIDE" logo on it). That panel is always on the air bag side (opposite of the V-arms), because that is toward the rear, where the transmission is in a rear-engine chassis... the example being used in this video. This is a rear suspension, and the control arms are always anchored to the frame forward of the axle, as they should be in a rear suspension.
In the MC chassis, the engine is in the front so the axle would be oriented the other way, with the suspension mounted the same way as always... control arm mounts in front, air bags in rear.
The editor of this video did nothing wrong; Big Chucky in Kentucky just doesn't understand how this suspension is installed.
@@brianb-p6586 Thanks for explaining it. Makes sense now. Thought I had found a boo-boo but turned out that I was it.
That's a scam. It's nothing new and won't be a revolution. The v-rods are necessary because you have an air suspension system which requires stabilizers to keep the axle in place. I've worked on trucks from the 90's and they had it. Not sure if that's a german thing but since Freightliner is part of the Mercedes-Benz group, it should be used on those trucks.
Arved Ludwig you’re right! it’s been used long time ago by trucks like cargo and container. also in buses
yeah!! luxury without limit❤❤
Make this system for cars please
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Rush Cummins نعم ولكن نريد عن كهرباء الشاحنات والباصات وشكرا لك
Thanks Nice video channel
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Perfect idea.
Quiero saber como regular globos delanteros de cabina renault
Wooow good job... new technology
Mohamed Nafees no articulation = loss of traction over uneven terrain. Just like the crap suspension in their hiway trucks
Hm..am also Mechanic from srilanka... i wl wrk srilankan largest carsale Wheels lanka kandy workshop
holmes1956O if you need that much travel just buy an M939 or an M35 I highly doubt people who own RVs need long travel suspension I mostly see them on highway or the RV park
HERPY DERPEDY Its not the amount of travel that is the problem with this type of suspension it is the lack of articulation, research that word if you are not familiar with its meaning. Freitliner suspension is terrible for this type of problem
thank you
Im not sure about this design....why are the ends of the upper links opposed by 90 degrees? Its always binding on one end when the suspension compresses/extends. Are the lower links fused together with the crosstube? That would help control sway, but limit performance on uneven surfaces.....
The two angled upper links act like a virtual A-arm, and in fact a variation of this design also sold as V-Ride uses an A-arm. The upper links (or A-arm) control both axle wind-up and lateral location. Angled upper arms have been widely used in cars, and to a much lesser extent in heavy trucks. It doesn't bind, but it does require some bushing deflection since ball joints are not used in the angled link version.
The lower links are rigidly attached to the crosstube. Yes, it means that the crosstube (which they call a transverse beam, because it carries the springs on the ends) distorts in torsion as a stabilizer bar. Compliance for uneven roads and resistance to vehicle roll are always in conflict and any design is a compromise between them.
Nice work
copied neway and saf heavy duty suspension....
does not exist more powerful and simple suspension than Torsion Bar suspension. Maintenance free or little, cheap, simple, guarantee unlimited lifetime use (until you do something stupid).
Tnx
Esto tenia que estar en español
24 tons only thats too short for a hualer or a buss buss her in Philippines can carry up to 30 tons
It's just air bags, they've been in trucks and buses since the 50s
It's not about the air bags, it's about the rest of the design. Of course air springs are commonly used in heavy trucks and buses.
so basically this is an anti roll bar!
Positioning/control rods
Yes, the transverse beam acts as an anti-roll (stabilizer) bar.
Nice
very loud music ....very bad recording.
From Indiana
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Good
Looks unreliable
Super
Tata truck mey hoga
bootleg 4 link
You now have a Boat on the Road .
Thrashliner
Kw # 1
Not sure
очень большая не подрессоренная масса!
فيانكن يا عرب عبله كلهن انقليزي
Ok
Technisch etwa 40 Jahre alt... 😂
Da sind noch so viele die mit Blatt federn rum fahren, das ist echt ein Witz.
montiac pontana Blattfedern haben durchaus Vorteile. Da wo es richtig zur Sache geht, nich auf Asphalt, in nem PKW... 😂😂😂
montiac pontana th-cam.com/video/_s7O47p6-Uk/w-d-xo.html .... hier haben wir die Bergischen Achsenwerke. Machen tolle Achsen. Mehrlenker, hydraulisch oder elektrisch angetriebene Achsen... th-cam.com/video/YegCNsGPx5Q/w-d-xo.html ist das vergleichbare Modell.
It will not work. There are bad experience in India with NH roads.
Körüğün zarlarından vardır. Teeh
Nothing but a triangulated 4 link with air lol 😂
DCtumm
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Meh! That's not luxury! Give us a shower and a toilet!!! That would be luxury!!!
Stupid company .
Saber que dice no entiendo inglés😄