I can say that I bought my pair of RP7000MK2 based on your original review. No complaints had them for over a year of almost daily use and they are a solid investment.
hey man can you answer me a question. i have the reloop rp 7000 mk1 and im getting some crazy wow and flutter. sometimes itll go from 80.0-81.1. do you have this problem with the mk2? im looking at upgrading.
I own a single RP7000MK2 Silver Edition since may 2018 and as of today, no issue, nothing to complaint about. I purchased it for the sole purpose of archiving my records collection (old school Dance / Techno from the early 90's) to digital files within a controlled environment (no dust, no smoke, no vibration, no static). For the job, I choose the Reloop Vibe cartridge which sound fantastic (Phono Output). The Reloop 7000MK2 is a very solid product, I'm very satisfied ! To be honest I though about a swap for the new Technics MK7 but its target retail price is more than twice the price of a Reloop 7000MK2 ... so unless you really want a Technics table, to me it's not worth it ...
These will not disappoint! Indeed, bought a pair of these for home use and I was not disappointed. I use in DVS mode with Ortofon Digi Carts . No problem mixing four to the floor House and open format. I am not bothered about having Technics anymore these are my new replacements and at a decent price new.
Hi, how have you found the 'digital' pitch. I've heard they get out of synch so much quicker then the good old 'analog' pitch from old turntables. I'm interested to know how long the beat match stays in synch with these turntables. My old anolog pitch keeps the 2 vinyl tracks in synch for a very long time. Your thougths appreciated. Cheers
Have the og rp7000 for years now. I like them really much. I have no problems going back and forth between these at home and the 1210/1200 in clubs. I even have to say that sometimes I wish that the 12s in front of me would transform into 7000s. The pitch is really precise and even when I DVS with them the bpm counter is way less jittery than with 12s I am recommending them to everybody basically.
No body I also keep the torque to a value that matches the 12s. And if you crank up the torque to the max, pressing the reverse button almost instantly reverses the direction. The on/off switch is set in a little so you won’t switch it off by accident and I appreciate the second play/stop button. And one feature for the neat freak...the area under the TT is easy to clean since it is flat and only the magnet is open. Not having a ground wire makes things easier as well. The rca target lights make them replaceable which is nice. I hate when the lights burn out and cannot be replaced easily. Need more info?
Hi, how have you found the 'digital' pitch. I've heard they get out of synch so much quicker then the good old 'analog' pitch from old turntables. I'm interested to know how long the beat match stays in synch with these turntables. My old anolog pitch keeps the 2 vinyl tracks in synch for a very long time. Your thougths appreciated. Cheers
@@bianchetfam7960 @Nizzle I cannot really answer this. It also depends on many factors imho. From a plain technical standpoint digital is not prone to temp changes or any noise every analog circuit produces to some degree. If I really need two or more tracks to be in sync for extended periods I press the „sync“ button. If I am playing plain old vinyl I think it depends way more on your accuracy while pitching than technical issues. Also every record is warped in some way or the other even if it is ever so slightly so there goes the rest of your precision. What I can say for sure is that jitter on a 1200s is higher than on those RPs. When I play DVS, then especially in the beginning the 1200s have a jitter of up to +/-0.5%(you can see the numbers fluctuate in RB or Serato) which stabilizes a bit during the set but is never really better than +/-0.2%. Both is expected from an analog system. And if it is serviced badly or never then jitter gets worse trust me I have been there. Generally analog is inaccurate to begin with and more so when the system is not warm yet. On the RPs here I am usually within the +/-0.1% range. But tbh I never saw any of this as a mayor problem really. I played on basically everything in my active time. The worst belt driven TTS to really expensive digitals and Always made the crowd jump. Everything that is mechanical will go out of sync eventually and nobody’s „pitch feel“ is perfect. If records start to go out of sync you re-pitch. The earlier you notice the de-syncing and the better your feeling for the pitch is the less audible it is to your audience…if they notice it at all. If I need absolute precision, then I‘d use a media player and the sync feature. Vinyl is always the game of sense and feeling vs mechanical imprecision. It’s never precise in the way digital media is.
I really like the thought of these, seeing as they're quite sturdy and heavy while not having to think about buying used stuff from Technics. The only complaint I have from the get-go are the dual start/stop buttons instead of a 45 RPM hole. Reloop should have two different versions. That way, they'd cater towards hi-fi people as well who likes to use a heavy metal plinth DD turntable but not want to go through the whole vintage process. Let's hope that they change this in the future.
I think Reloop make a version of this that's actually more so meant for hifi use. Doesn't have a pitch fader. Can totally use the 7000s for home listening though. Old music sounds really great on it.
I had 1210s for many years, sold them sadly however gotten back into it and have picked up the limited edition set of Reloop which I must say are fabulous.. on standard needles at the moment which were supplied with them I will be upgrading them soon as I can.. that all I would say.. A Graet Table I think the New Classic.
Recently brought a pair of these, no complaints so far, really is a rock solid turntable. only slight complaint is knowing the wow and flutter is more than a Technics. Although in reality there is no audible difference at all.
I have a Technics sl 1500c, and bought a Reloop 7000 mk2 because I wanted a turntable with pitch control, as I have a lot of dance vinyl that I like to play a little faster. Hand on heart, I can hear no difference between the two turntables at all, and the Reloop has a stronger motor. Save yourself some cash (practically 50%!) and buy a Reloop.
I bought these 5 days ago. I really liked the feel of them. I like the raised platter and the smooth bottom edge, the adjustable torque, pitch return better that PLX-1000 I tested etc. I set one up and there was a hum coming through the speaker. Changed leads, run it through a phono box, amp, powered speaker, changed cartridge etc. No difference. Shop told me set the second one up as a comparison. Same problem. Took them back to the shop. Tested against a 1210 MK7 and my 1975 Technics SL1500. Both Reloops had the same hum. Both Technics were silent. Both returned and I am now awaiting some 1200 MK7 Silver. There are some threads about unshielded wires in the Reloops??
@@peacepuffz Yes they are. My Mk2s are still going strong as well...only in the hands of a my friend who i sold them too in 2003! If only we could see in to the future. I checked out the black decks but didn't like the black tonearm or the black start/stop button.
The wow and flutter specs are actually lower than technics. 0.01 vs 0.025 however reloop has a * next to the spec stating imperfections. However the difference would be negligible bringing it to just under or technics equivalent
So I just saw this video today, but I got a pair of these a couple of months ago along with some Ortofon green's and I've been good. At the time, the price was $425/each and it's hard to beat that.
Hi, please help. Technics have recently upgraded their pitch control so they're more like the old analog/Technics 1210 MK2's . Now all these new turntables, incl the 7000 MK2's are digital, which means they're never 100% and when beat matching/mixing you're always having to work the platter and pitch. Are you finding this with the 7000's. E.G when you've got both discs match, and the fader in the middle, can you leave them both playing out together for a good length of time ? Appreciated. John
it`s obvious that you never played or owned technics so your opinion is invalid. Owned Stanton 150 st and they are exactly the same as these reloops. Garbage turntables compared to my currently owned 1200mk2`s.
@@Dilivioofficial I've owned 2 pairs of 1210s ! First pair I sold because I needed the money at the time, a decision ive always regretted, the 2nd pair got stolen! Once I was in a position to buy some decks again I wanted a brand new pair but couldn't afford technics, so I went for the Reloops, and honestly you can believe me or not they're as good as 1210s !
That was the very 1st mixer I had & learnt to mix/beat match with in about 1991. Would bring it half way in, or to the bass would allow, then switch them so the outgoing was half way out at the right time then fade. Would have sounded a right mess compared to today...
I'm using the rp-8000 mk2 with a ortofon VNL cart and the weight is hanging off the edge to the point to where I can't even get it balanced amd then it's not catching when scratching. Need to find that heavier tonearm weight you speak of. The reloop blue cartridge works fine
Reloop needs to make clones of the 70s full automatic Technics tables. DJs already have enough manual ones. LPs are back in a big way and vintage tables are getting hard to find and expensive. SLP 1300 and 1600 or even better go quartz lock like the 1301 and 1600 mk2. All the new ones are belt drive and fully manual, that's not what most home users want.
Hey, my two cents on the digital vs analogu pitch control - I am also on a lookout for a good set of turntables (had faulty 1210s, messed up at 120lp, and nice set of reloop 4000 - my first set and tbh I had no complaints back then). Only recently found out about digital pitch controls and saw ppl complaining and stuff bla bla - this put me off from buying the 7000 mk2. The, I dug deeper and saw that pros really have no issues with this, my doubt is that they even prefer it - for eg. I love Sven Vaeth and actually due to this digital pitch control gossip I immediately assumed he would prefer analog pitch control, but then I thought let me check... I went through a lot of his sets and really had a look and found out that dude seems to be using 1200 M5G (digital pitch) ever since they came out without any issues. I saw him use mk2 also, but this probably depends on the venue and ofc he would have no trouble using a brick. But all in all, go check for yourself if you do not believe me, m5g is really easy to spot due to the led lights and the buttons below the pitch. This put this stupid digital vs analogue discussion to rest in my head. Ofc it feels different, but the bottom line is, they both work. One other thing, a lot of ppl who complained about digital vs analogue pitch compare them head on eg. 1200 mk2 against smth digital - which when you think about it makes no god damn sense! Ofc you might have to correct the whole time bcs one is digital and the other is analogue - my guess is also that you might as well do a slight adjustment on the analogue one and they would be locked in (you might be somwhere in between the digital step) - these ppl have no idea what they are talking about tbh. So, if you have two good digital pitch control turntables of the same brand that is the only time you can make an honest comparison - bcs what I think once they get locked in they are locked in.
@@JoeMu well right now, I'd buy the mk2. I dont think there will be such a difference in terms of money. But the gold edition of the mk2... Its so beautiful hahah
So ... What about vs Denon VL12? Your reviews are helpful to the DJ Community but for us Home Audio guys, we find ourselves wanting/needing evals more along sonic quality capabilities. I bought a DJ style table because of the ongoing rep of Technics SL1200. I bought my VL12 at a crazy good price of $350 ... New, sealed in box. It sounds great for listening purposes but wondering how it stands up to the others DJ tables .... replacing my Systemdelk IIX900 belt driven table. table...
Hey mojaxx, i bet you can do the "wine down" by pressing the start/stop button if you turn the "break" knob to 6 seconds. I own a vestax pdx 2000 and i use that feature when I'm mixing house music sometimes.
itimmy101 Indeed you can, but then it can be tricky to get the brake set back to exactly where I want it the rest of the time. So I just find it easier to run in phono mode, and not have to think about it. It’s no big deal either way, but I have to mention it as somebody coming from 1200s night not understand why the power switch kills the sound in line mode.
I notice this also. Asked for a replacement platter and they sent me another with not so much wobble. Somebody needs to step up and clone a real dj turntable.
@@phunior Yeah, if they are ground level it should be ok anyway, though it shows a cheap casting. You can check level by placing something that doesn't move on the tabletop and put it a millimeter above the platter and watch the platter edge and see if the platter is rising and falling relative to something held stationary above its edge.
Just purchased one, to pair with my numark m6. Gonna get another one later down the line but budget is tight and I want an s2400 also, and I just don't wanna blow through my wallet lol. Price to feature ratio did it for me. I don't think TT tech has changed much in the last 2 years aside from Technics putting out an overpriced 1200.
@@tiastudio5479 Pioneer is overpriced just because they're prices are high doesn't mean you're getting the best of the best I'd stick to reloop 7k MK2s I'm getting a pair myself
Reloop is more like a technics 1210 with more features torque adjustments and brake don't have that on the Pioneer im buying the reloop 7000 soon u won't be dissapointed
So you are happy with them? That’s nice to hear cause I’m in doubt with the PLX-1000’s but I prefer a silver turntable. Any advice for the cartridge, I play mostly techno. Thanks.
I have the Audio Technica LP1240s and am stoked. TO think you can almost buy 2 Rp7000 or AT LP1240 for the same price as 1 Pioneer PLX1000, what a RIP Pioneer.. taking the piss.
i am mixing with 2 of this rp 7000 mk2 - nothing to complain - one thing i rly love is that the platter is above the case - rly great when you want to adjust a tiny bit
How Reloop RP7000 MK2 would perform in a heavy bass environment? Would it resonate and feedback or not? Usually this is one of the main concerns of a DJ who intends to use a turntable in a club like environment. Another question that sometimes is ignored is about maintaining the best sound quality of the music playing. The answer to this question depends on many variables, like the following: - turntable chassis design and construction, in order to obtain the best isolation possible against vibrations - platter manufacturing method (die-casting or machining), in order to obtain the best stability, damping and wobble free rotation - the presence of a built-in integrated phono preamplifier, that can generate additional noise, due to its low quality, poor isolation or inability to apply the proper RIAA eq curve - tone arm construction and design - stylus construction, design and quality All these variables are often the result of poor quality control policies on the assembly line or the lack of interest from manufactures to invest in turntable designs and developments. Finally we have all the variables linked to turntable settings, like arm height, VTA, azimuth, zenith, etc., which affects the final sound reproduction. The turntable use for mixing require alot of attention and maintenance, in order to obtain the best sound possible, and all that attention and maintenance translate in time spent and sound quality being inconsistent most of the time. In the years preceding the introduction of digital mixing equipment, the turntable was the only equipment able to offer the possibility in to mix music, but nowadays with all the digital technology available to us in the industry, the turntable is effectively absolete until some proud manufacturer learns to improve production tolerances and until tight standards are imposed on records thickness and planeity. As for anyone who wants to learn to beat match the old school way, the presence of a turntable (with all its complications) is not a requirement. If you want to learn to beat match, simply use your ears, learn not to look at the displays and forget about the sync button.
@@Baker19911 For practicality and functionality reasons, yes, the controllers are more versatile and hassle free. But, again, it is up to you to choose. If you like to work on turntables, by all means, do it. Don't let anything stand in your way or to rub your opportunity to enjoy the equipment.
good review, i've been hesitating between theses and the stanton st-150 Since stantons are made in USA i thought they would be a better choice.. Keep on the good reviews!!
joshua85100 They are both Super OEMs and so effectively the same deck at their core. And that means the Stantons are not made in the USA. They might be assembled there, but I’m not even sure about that.
@@joshua85100 never like reloop. They dont hold the pitch. And in my line of fire pitch control is the main element. Techies and pioneer for that even if some say pioneer are hype reloop they arent just the motor and arm are the same the pitch internals and all the rest are pure pioneer. Stanton are stanton you cannot compare em to reloop have some respect 🤣 just because they have the same motor it dont make em the same turntable. On a side crazy note. I tried once them denon v12s prime. I got seriously impressed. They hold the pitch almost as accurate and as extend like my mk5s
They replaced generic Super OEM tonearm with a Technics tonearm copy from Pioneer PLX-1000 and we got Mk2. If they really want to make it perfect they should get rid of extra Start button (looks stupid), bring back 7" adapter, get rid of oversized casing (shared with RP-8000 to lower the cost I guess), so we don't see this weird looking empty space on the left side of platter and make platter sunken-in like in Pioneer/Stanton ST 150 M2. This way we get Pioneer PLX-100, but 200€ cheaper.
The cabinet is literally the same size as a technics bar 5mm in widthand is actually not as deep as a technics "weird oversized casing" what are you even talking about?
I've been looking at adding two turn tables to my set up and have considered both the reloop 7000's and the 4000's however I can't find any decent reviews or video on the 4000's. Has anyone had any experience with them, is it worth spending almost double and getting the 7000's or will the 4000's hold up in a bedroom set up? thanks
I strongly advise you to test them. They have weak vibration isolation/dampening feature. Make your own opinion. But they resonate so much. Isolation is absolutely critical. They disappointed me. From esthetic point of view they are really good and nice imitation of the notorious.
Hi, how have you found the 'digital' pitch. I've heard they get out of synch so much quicker then the good old 'analog' pitch from old turntables. I'm interested to know how long the beat match stays in synch with these turntables. My old anolog pitch keeps the 2 vinyl tracks in synch for a very long time. Your thougths appreciated. Cheers
@@bianchetfam7960 This is a really good question according to me the digital pitch fader is more responsive than the technics 1200/1210 and others, I do love now how to play with those decks and they are really cool...
Yes, any turntable will work with any DVS software. All you need is the control vinyls and then the software itself which comes with a digital to analogue converter :)
Warning - if you are a turtablist that does ultrapitch scratching, all of the newer super oem turntables are terrible. They have issues with the torque trying to over correct when scratching at slower speeds. I wish I had known this before I purchased mine, as I did so exactly for ultrapitch scratching. May try to get an older hanpin or a vestax.
Can you be more specific? Does it do some weird speed-ups? I cut, so ultra pitch is a must have... I bought an RP-7000 mk2 a couple of years ago, but returned i due to the motor being buggy: it would go haywire/full speed if I rapidly tapped the start-stop button. Now I was considering trying a new one to replace my deteriorating PDX2000s. I used to own an old pair of Hanpins and was super pleased, which is why I'm interested in what went wrong...
I bought this tourntable a few months ago and i'm very disappointed. I heard a lot of great opinion about RP6000 that's whay i bought Reloop. The arm of this turntable during more energetic movements jumps. And when i use the Ultra Pitch around -25% or -50% during scratching the engine stops for 2-3 seconds or speeds up. I called to service and they said that it is normal for this turntable... :D
They pretty much are the same. The difference is on the emotional side of mk2s. Nothing more. Have both. Almost a yr on reloops constant daily use they still never skipped a beat. Some extremely tiny hum noise sometimes but nothing someone with normal hearing will notice
@@moralrevulsionLive Hi, how have you found the 'digital' pitch. I've heard they get out of synch so much quicker then the good old 'analog' pitch from old turntables. I'm interested to know how long the beat match stays in synch with these turntables. My old anolog pitch keeps the 2 vinyl tracks in synch for a very long time. Your thougths appreciated. Cheers
Spot on time review for Me, because I’m looking for a new set of simple spinner. But, nowhere I can buy this in Germany at the moment..... Hrrrgh. :) Reloop guys.. when those bad boys will arrive here?
You mentioned the Rloop Turn % and I went to look at it, absolutely stunning but a little more than I want to spend, I am interested in your opinion between the two - It will be on my home stereo system, but I demand pretty good stuff - I have a very large (and old) Vinyl collection going back to the early 60's and some really old 78's I inherited from one of my Dads old friends - anyway, they will never be play anyhow. So, one, how good is the Cartridge that comes with the 7000 compared to the Ortofon 2M Red on the Turn 5 - As if I would be replacing the 7000's cart with that anyway, then puts the price-point very close - OR is the Cartridge on the 7000 Home Audiophile (near) anyway ?
I have a problem when i try to scratch. It skipps very easily even though i gave it a good weight and antiskating. Could that be solved without having to go for straight tonearm?
@Richard Taylor sorry sucker but the only thing 12s have is legacy .the harpins have greater torque and way more options for todays djs ,if you take care of ne record player it will last you a long time ,so how am i wrong here ?
same thing both are just like technics 1200 i used technics for 30 years,so pioneer plx 1000 and reloop 7000 mk2 . like i said same thing.dont buy technics they are selling just the name rip off.believme again technics is just for fools who wants just the name because they have money again reloop 7000 mk2 and the plx 1000 are the best in themarket now
@@MultiChino19 i was kidding, any needle will do, go for quality and not quantity. It’s all about knowing how to balance the tone arm for the cartridge, the anti skate if you’re scratching. Lots of good videos out there that explain how to set this up so you have optimal performance for your application. Cheers buddy
It's a bit of an artificial made up term which actually just used for turntables to label OEM based turntables as premium to put them in the league of the technics (basically because of all these overly obsessed and indoctrinated technics sect members who look down on OEM)...so, technically they are OEM turntables and to highlight the excellent quality the word "super" is added
You say in video, that wow & flutter not as good as at Technics 1200s. So that's not a true value 0,01 % for this model? Old Technics has 0,025 WRMS. So actually reloop rp-7000 should be better at this important spec....
You are wrong, reloop is manipulating little bit their technical specs. 0.01 is 0.025 % W.R.M.S. which is different method of measuring. So basically on paper they should be the same but reloop has extra * saying that could be some " imperfection" reloop should provide only W.R.M.S. measurements like technics does which is " hard" way
Genuinely no idea what people are talking about with this, these are my first purchase of DJ equipment since I sold my m3d's about 6 years ago and my first purchase of "digital" equipment. Over the years I played on dozens of not hundreds of pairs of technics and I could use these no problem first time I set them up.
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I can say that I bought my pair of RP7000MK2 based on your original review. No complaints had them for over a year of almost daily use and they are a solid investment.
You can switch power switch off and on , and it will not kill the sound , while have plater slowing down
hey man can you answer me a question. i have the reloop rp 7000 mk1 and im getting some crazy wow and flutter. sometimes itll go from 80.0-81.1. do you have this problem with the mk2? im looking at upgrading.
mine have been solid as well. No Issues in 2 years
I own a single RP7000MK2 Silver Edition since may 2018 and as of today, no issue, nothing to complaint about. I purchased it for the sole purpose of archiving my records collection (old school Dance / Techno from the early 90's) to digital files within a controlled environment (no dust, no smoke, no vibration, no static). For the job, I choose the Reloop Vibe cartridge which sound fantastic (Phono Output). The Reloop 7000MK2 is a very solid product, I'm very satisfied ! To be honest I though about a swap for the new Technics MK7 but its target retail price is more than twice the price of a Reloop 7000MK2 ... so unless you really want a Technics table, to me it's not worth it ...
And sound?
These will not disappoint! Indeed, bought a pair of these for home use and I was not disappointed. I use in DVS mode with Ortofon Digi Carts . No problem mixing four to the floor House and open format. I am not bothered about having Technics anymore these are my new replacements and at a decent price new.
Hi, how have you found the 'digital' pitch. I've heard they get out of synch so much quicker then the good old 'analog' pitch from old turntables. I'm interested to know how long the beat match stays in synch with these turntables.
My old anolog pitch keeps the 2 vinyl tracks in synch for a very long time. Your thougths appreciated. Cheers
Have the og rp7000 for years now. I like them really much. I have no problems going back and forth between these at home and the 1210/1200 in clubs. I even have to say that sometimes I wish that the 12s in front of me would transform into 7000s. The pitch is really precise and even when I DVS with them the bpm counter is way less jittery than with 12s
I am recommending them to everybody basically.
Appreciate the input, i'm in the market for turntables and I can't justify the prices for used 1200s
No body I also keep the torque to a value that matches the 12s. And if you crank up the torque to the max, pressing the reverse button almost instantly reverses the direction. The on/off switch is set in a little so you won’t switch it off by accident and I appreciate the second play/stop button. And one feature for the neat freak...the area under the TT is easy to clean since it is flat and only the magnet is open. Not having a ground wire makes things easier as well. The rca target lights make them replaceable which is nice. I hate when the lights burn out and cannot be replaced easily. Need more info?
Hi, how have you found the 'digital' pitch. I've heard they get out of synch so much quicker then the good old 'analog' pitch from old turntables. I'm interested to know how long the beat match stays in synch with these turntables.
My old anolog pitch keeps the 2 vinyl tracks in synch for a very long time. Your thougths appreciated. Cheers
Yes want to know what Bianchet fan wants to know too
@@bianchetfam7960 @Nizzle I cannot really answer this. It also depends on many factors imho. From a plain technical standpoint digital is not prone to temp changes or any noise every analog circuit produces to some degree. If I really need two or more tracks to be in sync for extended periods I press the „sync“ button. If I am playing plain old vinyl I think it depends way more on your accuracy while pitching than technical issues. Also every record is warped in some way or the other even if it is ever so slightly so there goes the rest of your precision. What I can say for sure is that jitter on a 1200s is higher than on those RPs. When I play DVS, then especially in the beginning the 1200s have a jitter of up to +/-0.5%(you can see the numbers fluctuate in RB or Serato) which stabilizes a bit during the set but is never really better than +/-0.2%. Both is expected from an analog system. And if it is serviced badly or never then jitter gets worse trust me I have been there. Generally analog is inaccurate to begin with and more so when the system is not warm yet. On the RPs here I am usually within the +/-0.1% range. But tbh I never saw any of this as a mayor problem really. I played on basically everything in my active time. The worst belt driven TTS to really expensive digitals and Always made the crowd jump. Everything that is mechanical will go out of sync eventually and nobody’s „pitch feel“ is perfect. If records start to go out of sync you re-pitch. The earlier you notice the de-syncing and the better your feeling for the pitch is the less audible it is to your audience…if they notice it at all. If I need absolute precision, then I‘d use a media player and the sync feature. Vinyl is always the game of sense and feeling vs mechanical imprecision. It’s never precise in the way digital media is.
I really like the thought of these, seeing as they're quite sturdy and heavy while not having to think about buying used stuff from Technics. The only complaint I have from the get-go are the dual start/stop buttons instead of a 45 RPM hole. Reloop should have two different versions. That way, they'd cater towards hi-fi people as well who likes to use a heavy metal plinth DD turntable but not want to go through the whole vintage process. Let's hope that they change this in the future.
I think Reloop make a version of this that's actually more so meant for hifi use. Doesn't have a pitch fader. Can totally use the 7000s for home listening though. Old music sounds really great on it.
I had 1210s for many years, sold them sadly however gotten back into it and have picked up the limited edition set of Reloop which I must say are fabulous.. on standard needles at the moment which were supplied with them I will be upgrading them soon as I can.. that all I would say..
A Graet Table I think the New Classic.
Recently brought a pair of these, no complaints so far, really is a rock solid turntable. only slight complaint is knowing the wow and flutter is more than a Technics. Although in reality there is no audible difference at all.
How are they running now? Any reliability issues?
Just got one. No complaints at all so far.
I have a Technics sl 1500c, and bought a Reloop 7000 mk2 because I wanted a turntable with pitch control, as I have a lot of dance vinyl that I like to play a little faster. Hand on heart, I can hear no difference between the two turntables at all, and the Reloop has a stronger motor. Save yourself some cash (practically 50%!) and buy a Reloop.
I bought these 5 days ago. I really liked the feel of them. I like the raised platter and the smooth bottom edge, the adjustable torque, pitch return better that PLX-1000 I tested etc.
I set one up and there was a hum coming through the speaker. Changed leads, run it through a phono box, amp, powered speaker, changed cartridge etc. No difference. Shop told me set the second one up as a comparison. Same problem. Took them back to the shop. Tested against a 1210 MK7 and my 1975 Technics SL1500. Both Reloops had the same hum. Both Technics were silent. Both returned and I am now awaiting some 1200 MK7 Silver. There are some threads about unshielded wires in the Reloops??
The silver technics are called 1200's the black one's are 1210's. I've still got my 1200 mk 2's from the 90's, amaizing decks.
@@peacepuffz Yes they are. My Mk2s are still going strong as well...only in the hands of a my friend who i sold them too in 2003!
If only we could see in to the future. I checked out the black decks but didn't like the black tonearm or the black start/stop button.
@@user-rn9wp9kt1x Cool man
Best in the market in this moment! I have 2 black
The wow and flutter specs are actually lower than technics. 0.01 vs 0.025 however reloop has a * next to the spec stating imperfections. However the difference would be negligible bringing it to just under or technics equivalent
does this pertain to the rp7000 as well
Nice looking tables. Thanks for posting Mo.
Cheers mate! Picking one up in Paris this weekend !
For me in this moment the best on the market !
Mo's voice is just so smooth
2:25 This part of the video is just so satisfying lol
Got this in black fantastic quality 👍😊
So I just saw this video today, but I got a pair of these a couple of months ago along with some Ortofon green's and I've been good. At the time, the price was $425/each and it's hard to beat that.
DJ Adjacent That’s a great deal! Any Super OEM under $500 is a good score.
Hi, please help. Technics have recently upgraded their pitch control so they're more like the old analog/Technics 1210 MK2's . Now all these new turntables, incl the 7000 MK2's are digital, which means they're never 100% and when beat matching/mixing you're always having to work the platter and pitch. Are you finding this with the 7000's. E.G when you've got both discs match, and the fader in the middle, can you leave them both playing out together for a good length of time ? Appreciated. John
6000 series were a great table also most probably my favourite deck.
I agree to that. The only reason I'm looking at this is because my 2 6000s are broken after ~12 years.
Just bought a pair of these and they are excellent ! I would go as far as to say even better than the Technics 1210 !
noob
it`s obvious that you never played or owned technics so your opinion is invalid. Owned Stanton 150 st and they are exactly the same as these reloops. Garbage turntables compared to my currently owned 1200mk2`s.
@labrat.
LMAO,..Save your money and buy a real Technics.
Are you satisfied with the sound?
@@Dilivioofficial I've owned 2 pairs of 1210s ! First pair I sold because I needed the money at the time, a decision ive always regretted, the 2nd pair got stolen! Once I was in a position to buy some decks again I wanted a brand new pair but couldn't afford technics, so I went for the Reloops, and honestly you can believe me or not they're as good as 1210s !
Nice mixer behind you. The realistic in the blue box. Try to mix with this two reloop turntables. And without EQ. Old school. Enjoy!
That was the very 1st mixer I had & learnt to mix/beat match with in about 1991. Would bring it half way in, or to the bass would allow, then switch them so the outgoing was half way out at the right time then fade.
Would have sounded a right mess compared to today...
Hello! Lovely video. Have you maybe tried AT Lp140x? If yes, which one would you recommend between this two?
Thanks
I'm using the rp-8000 mk2 with a ortofon VNL cart and the weight is hanging off the edge to the point to where I can't even get it balanced amd then it's not catching when scratching. Need to find that heavier tonearm weight you speak of. The reloop blue cartridge works fine
Reloop needs to make clones of the 70s full automatic Technics tables. DJs already have enough manual ones. LPs are back in a big way and vintage tables are getting hard to find and expensive. SLP 1300 and 1600 or even better go quartz lock like the 1301 and 1600 mk2. All the new ones are belt drive and fully manual, that's not what most home users want.
Hey, my two cents on the digital vs analogu pitch control - I am also on a lookout for a good set of turntables (had faulty 1210s, messed up at 120lp, and nice set of reloop 4000 - my first set and tbh I had no complaints back then). Only recently found out about digital pitch controls and saw ppl complaining and stuff bla bla - this put me off from buying the 7000 mk2. The, I dug deeper and saw that pros really have no issues with this, my doubt is that they even prefer it - for eg. I love Sven Vaeth and actually due to this digital pitch control gossip I immediately assumed he would prefer analog pitch control, but then I thought let me check... I went through a lot of his sets and really had a look and found out that dude seems to be using 1200 M5G (digital pitch) ever since they came out without any issues. I saw him use mk2 also, but this probably depends on the venue and ofc he would have no trouble using a brick. But all in all, go check for yourself if you do not believe me, m5g is really easy to spot due to the led lights and the buttons below the pitch. This put this stupid digital vs analogue discussion to rest in my head. Ofc it feels different, but the bottom line is, they both work.
One other thing, a lot of ppl who complained about digital vs analogue pitch compare them head on eg. 1200 mk2 against smth digital - which when you think about it makes no god damn sense! Ofc you might have to correct the whole time bcs one is digital and the other is analogue - my guess is also that you might as well do a slight adjustment on the analogue one and they would be locked in (you might be somwhere in between the digital step) - these ppl have no idea what they are talking about tbh. So, if you have two good digital pitch control turntables of the same brand that is the only time you can make an honest comparison - bcs what I think once they get locked in they are locked in.
I have a pair of numark ttx and considering getting a pair of these later on based on this review.
Just save money and get Technics
a Super OEM with a Technics 1200MK@ layout!..AWESOME!...now i know that turntables to replace my 1200's i had to sell!
Purchased the mk1 model, its an excellent turntable
Tha Blinder what’s the difference between mk1 and mk2 I can get a mk1 for £200 now
But not sure weather to get the mk2
@@JoeMu The design is slightly updated, all the tone arm base is renewed and also I believe a slightly better housing
Tha Blinder not sure what to go for then I’m only using for at home
@@JoeMu well right now, I'd buy the mk2. I dont think there will be such a difference in terms of money. But the gold edition of the mk2... Its so beautiful hahah
Does it come with a cartridge when you buy it or do you need to buy one seperately?
you need to buy separately
RP7000 mk2 VS LP140X?
Which Is the best?
Go whit Plx1000 ı bought the rp7000 it has bad grounding om external phono. If you have NO budget then go whit the audio technica
Any chance of an rp4000mk2 review? This turntable spec wise beats a 1210 and comes with an ortofon needle for £250 bargain really.
RP4000 for sure doesnt beat a Technics, lmao. I wouldn't recommend anything lower than a RP6000 for professional use.
So ... What about vs Denon VL12? Your reviews are helpful to the DJ Community but for us Home Audio guys, we find ourselves wanting/needing evals more along sonic quality capabilities.
I bought a DJ style table because of the ongoing rep of Technics SL1200. I bought my VL12 at a crazy good price of $350 ... New, sealed in box. It sounds great for listening purposes but wondering how it stands up to the others DJ tables .... replacing my Systemdelk IIX900 belt driven table. table...
Hey mojaxx, i bet you can do the "wine down" by pressing the start/stop button if you turn the "break" knob to 6 seconds.
I own a vestax pdx 2000 and i use that feature when I'm mixing house music sometimes.
itimmy101 Indeed you can, but then it can be tricky to get the brake set back to exactly where I want it the rest of the time.
So I just find it easier to run in phono mode, and not have to think about it.
It’s no big deal either way, but I have to mention it as somebody coming from 1200s night not understand why the power switch kills the sound in line mode.
MojaxxVDJ I see, it's very nice looking turntable though!👍
Like all Technics clones, the table is warped as it goes around though the top and bottom are ground flat. Comes from imprecise casting.
I notice this also. Asked for a replacement platter and they sent me another with not so much wobble. Somebody needs to step up and clone a real dj turntable.
yep just noticed this on my mk2's also, who did you get the replacement from?
I just purchased a pair of reloop mk2s and have the same issue. Warped platters on both out of the box.
@@phunior Yeah, if they are ground level it should be ok anyway, though it shows a cheap casting. You can check level by placing something that doesn't move on the tabletop and put it a millimeter above the platter and watch the platter edge and see if the platter is rising and falling relative to something held stationary above its edge.
On the fence about getting these. 2 years since you posted the video. Would you still recommend?
Just purchased one, to pair with my numark m6. Gonna get another one later down the line but budget is tight and I want an s2400 also, and I just don't wanna blow through my wallet lol. Price to feature ratio did it for me.
I don't think TT tech has changed much in the last 2 years aside from Technics putting out an overpriced 1200.
the one thing is just missing the 45 adaptor/ n slot
I'm considering a pair of these in black
VoyageOne1 I forget to mention the colour options! Personally I prefer the black too.
Reloop 7000 mk2 or pioneer plx 1000?? I m not sure which pair to buy..
Advice?
Chewdisk I think I will buy pioneer
@@tiastudio5479 Pioneer is overpriced just because they're prices are high doesn't mean you're getting the best of the best I'd stick to reloop 7k MK2s I'm getting a pair myself
Reloop 7000
Yea your right I just think pioneer is traditional so
Reloop is more like a technics 1210 with more features torque adjustments and brake don't have that on the Pioneer im buying the reloop 7000 soon u won't be dissapointed
Way late to comment but just bought a set to replace broken 1200s they are amazing
So you are happy with them? That’s nice to hear cause I’m in doubt with the PLX-1000’s but I prefer a silver turntable. Any advice for the cartridge, I play mostly techno. Thanks.
Is there any difference between these and the Gold Edition 7000's
the color
Limited numbers
choosing between the AT-LP1240 to this, what is your opinion?
They seem to be exactly the same. Choose whichever one you think looks better.
I have both, prefer the reloops
It was a smart choise. The reloop's have humming and buzzing when you use external phono amp bad grounding
I have the Audio Technica LP1240s and am stoked.
TO think you can almost buy 2 Rp7000 or AT LP1240 for the same price as 1 Pioneer PLX1000, what a RIP Pioneer.. taking the piss.
so this or the at lp140xp? Also is the wow and flutter really 0.01%, according to the manual?
i am mixing with 2 of this rp 7000 mk2 - nothing to complain - one thing i rly love is that the platter is above the case - rly great when you want to adjust a tiny bit
I heard the black finsh look better? 1200 sliver man normally but if the black 7000 looks higher quality?
Why would you need two start / stop buttons? 🤔
Great video. Lovely hoodie!!!
Thank you
How Reloop RP7000 MK2 would perform in a heavy bass environment? Would it resonate and feedback or not? Usually this is one of the main concerns of a DJ who intends to use a turntable in a club like environment.
Another question that sometimes is ignored is about maintaining the best sound quality of the music playing. The answer to this question depends on many variables, like the following:
- turntable chassis design and construction, in order to obtain the best isolation possible against vibrations
- platter manufacturing method (die-casting or machining), in order to obtain the best stability, damping and wobble free rotation
- the presence of a built-in integrated phono preamplifier, that can generate additional noise, due to its low quality, poor isolation or inability to apply the proper RIAA eq curve
- tone arm construction and design
- stylus construction, design and quality
All these variables are often the result of poor quality control policies on the assembly line or the lack of interest from manufactures to invest in turntable designs and developments.
Finally we have all the variables linked to turntable settings, like arm height, VTA, azimuth, zenith, etc., which affects the final sound reproduction.
The turntable use for mixing require alot of attention and maintenance, in order to obtain the best sound possible, and all that attention and maintenance translate in time spent and sound quality being inconsistent most of the time.
In the years preceding the introduction of digital mixing equipment, the turntable was the only equipment able to offer the possibility in to mix music, but nowadays with all the digital technology available to us in the industry, the turntable is effectively absolete until some proud manufacturer learns to improve production tolerances and until tight standards are imposed on records thickness and planeity.
As for anyone who wants to learn to beat match the old school way, the presence of a turntable (with all its complications) is not a requirement. If you want to learn to beat match, simply use your ears, learn not to look at the displays and forget about the sync button.
so do you suggest the controllers over vynl is better?
@@Baker19911 For practicality and functionality reasons, yes, the controllers are more versatile and hassle free. But, again, it is up to you to choose. If you like to work on turntables, by all means, do it. Don't let anything stand in your way or to rub your opportunity to enjoy the equipment.
Woul you recommend rp-7000 mk2 over restoring old Technics 1200 mk2?
a fully restore 1200/1210 will last you for sure longer than the OEM turntable, better internals , wiring cables and made in japan!
Hey Mojaxx , do you think there better then the Denon VL12 Prime TT's ? which has better insulation from vibration?
no but cheaper
Hey Mo - what carts do you recommend for these RP7000mk2's?
I use the Reloop Concorde ones. They're rebranded Ortofons.
good review, i've been hesitating between theses and the stanton st-150
Since stantons are made in USA i thought they would be a better choice..
Keep on the good reviews!!
joshua85100 They are both Super OEMs and so effectively the same deck at their core. And that means the Stantons are not made in the USA. They might be assembled there, but I’m not even sure about that.
alright thanks for your answer! i will re-think my choices since stantons are also super-oem (i've read on a forum that they were not..)
big up!
Even techies are made nowhere near their original made in place. Have you got them stanton afterall? Any regrets
@@raven-jz6cv got a pair of reloop 6000, cheaper and same potential as those OEM we've talked above !
@@joshua85100 never like reloop. They dont hold the pitch. And in my line of fire pitch control is the main element. Techies and pioneer for that even if some say pioneer are hype reloop they arent just the motor and arm are the same the pitch internals and all the rest are pure pioneer. Stanton are stanton you cannot compare em to reloop have some respect 🤣 just because they have the same motor it dont make em the same turntable.
On a side crazy note. I tried once them denon v12s prime. I got seriously impressed. They hold the pitch almost as accurate and as extend like my mk5s
Is the body's surface or the buttons on top rubber-coated? My ST.150 MK1 had this and it got super sticky after a few years. Sucks.
They replaced generic Super OEM tonearm with a Technics tonearm copy from Pioneer PLX-1000 and we got Mk2. If they really want to make it perfect they should get rid of extra Start button (looks stupid), bring back 7" adapter, get rid of oversized casing (shared with RP-8000 to lower the cost I guess), so we don't see this weird looking empty space on the left side of platter and make platter sunken-in like in Pioneer/Stanton ST 150 M2. This way we get Pioneer PLX-100, but 200€ cheaper.
A straight up clone of a 1200 mk2 all the way!!!!!!
The cabinet is literally the same size as a technics bar 5mm in widthand is actually not as deep as a technics "weird oversized casing" what are you even talking about?
@@alfgui what can you do with the dicers that you can't do with the rp8000?
Guilherme Galindo i have external controllers as well but i use the pads on the rp8000 pretty often - and the browser as well
I've been looking at adding two turn tables to my set up and have considered both the reloop 7000's and the 4000's however I can't find any decent reviews or video on the 4000's. Has anyone had any experience with them, is it worth spending almost double and getting the 7000's or will the 4000's hold up in a bedroom set up? thanks
Ell Guy get the 7000 or 8000 One of the best!
@@DV91 ended up getting the 7000s. They’re great
@@Bobo-lz3hf black or silver?
They also sell custom skins for them. I have some chrome magnet skins on my 8000’s
Is the platter made from steel like the 1200s or aluminum like the Audio Technicas?
Die cast aluminium i believe
You have to be honest it sure is good value for the money
I strongly advise you to test them. They have weak vibration isolation/dampening feature. Make your own opinion.
But they resonate so much.
Isolation is absolutely critical. They disappointed me.
From esthetic point of view they are really good and nice imitation of the notorious.
That's what I thought too. Thanks for sharing.
Is it possible to bypass the built-in preamp and use an external phono preamp? What would be the position of the switch if possible ?
There will be a line/phono switch on the back switch it to phono to use an external preamp
After 2 pairs of technics I am really happy with my reloop rp7000, thank you Mate!
Hi, how have you found the 'digital' pitch. I've heard they get out of synch so much quicker then the good old 'analog' pitch from old turntables. I'm interested to know how long the beat match stays in synch with these turntables.
My old anolog pitch keeps the 2 vinyl tracks in synch for a very long time. Your thougths appreciated. Cheers
@@bianchetfam7960 synch
@@bianchetfam7960 This is a really good question according to me the digital pitch fader is more responsive than the technics 1200/1210 and others, I do love now how to play with those decks and they are really cool...
Best than 1200, i had technics
do these work with rekordbox dvs ? I just need a timecode vinyl ?
Yes, any turntable will work with any DVS software. All you need is the control vinyls and then the software itself which comes with a digital to analogue converter :)
Yes any turntable will work but you need either the range sl box or traktor audio box. Or a mixer that already has it built in
Great review mate!
Great turntables.
Can I use this for just home usage playing records with no scratching or mixing?
Yes, 100%
Please make the Reloop RP-8000 mkii with MIDI in 🤞😁🤞
Warning - if you are a turtablist that does ultrapitch scratching, all of the newer super oem turntables are terrible. They have issues with the torque trying to over correct when scratching at slower speeds. I wish I had known this before I purchased mine, as I did so exactly for ultrapitch scratching. May try to get an older hanpin or a vestax.
Can you be more specific? Does it do some weird speed-ups? I cut, so ultra pitch is a must have...
I bought an RP-7000 mk2 a couple of years ago, but returned i due to the motor being buggy: it would go haywire/full speed if I rapidly tapped the start-stop button. Now I was considering trying a new one to replace my deteriorating PDX2000s. I used to own an old pair of Hanpins and was super pleased, which is why I'm interested in what went wrong...
@@anttiskate the motor overcompensates for loss of torque
I bought this tourntable a few months ago and i'm very disappointed. I heard a lot of great opinion about RP6000 that's whay i bought Reloop. The arm of this turntable during more energetic movements jumps. And when i use the Ultra Pitch around -25% or -50% during scratching the engine stops for 2-3 seconds or speeds up. I called to service and they said that it is normal for this turntable... :D
I am sorry. Not this one because this is MK2. I bought first edition...
Bluetac a small coin to the top of the stylus to stop tone arms jumping 💪
MojaxxVJD Have you ever done a rewiew of the Synq Xtrem1?
Reloop states a wow & flutter of 0.01% which is lower than other super OEM tables and is the same as tech 1210 mk 2’s as I recall..
They pretty much are the same. The difference is on the emotional side of mk2s. Nothing more. Have both. Almost a yr on reloops constant daily use they still never skipped a beat.
Some extremely tiny hum noise sometimes but nothing someone with normal hearing will notice
@@moralrevulsionLive Hi, how have you found the 'digital' pitch. I've heard they get out of synch so much quicker then the good old 'analog' pitch from old turntables. I'm interested to know how long the beat match stays in synch with these turntables.
My old anolog pitch keeps the 2 vinyl tracks in synch for a very long time. Your thougths appreciated. Cheers
Great review
Great review!!!!
Cool stuff, keep it up
Spot on time review for Me, because I’m looking for a new set of simple spinner. But, nowhere I can buy this in Germany at the moment..... Hrrrgh. :) Reloop guys.. when those bad boys will arrive here?
www.thomann.de/de/reloop_rp_7000_mk2.htm
www.thomann.de/de/reloop_rp_7000_mk2_silver.htm
biesoid I’m so stupid... I searched for MKIII.... dumb meeeee :) order placed!
You mentioned the Rloop Turn % and I went to look at it, absolutely stunning but a little more than I want to spend, I am interested in your opinion between the two - It will be on my home stereo system, but I demand pretty good stuff - I have a very large (and old) Vinyl collection going back to the early 60's and some really old 78's I inherited from one of my Dads old friends - anyway, they will never be play anyhow. So, one, how good is the Cartridge that comes with the 7000 compared to the Ortofon 2M Red on the Turn 5 - As if I would be replacing the 7000's cart with that anyway, then puts the price-point very close - OR is the Cartridge on the 7000 Home Audiophile (near) anyway ?
As far as I know RP-7000 mk2 comes without a cartridge and without a dust cover (optional). I am also looking at Reloop TURN5 and RP-7000 mk2
But the question is, can you scratch on it?
This turntable not has 16 rpm, only 33, 45 and 78 rpm?
dvs rekordbox campatible?
I have a problem when i try to scratch. It skipps very easily even though i gave it a good weight and antiskating. Could that be solved without having to go for straight tonearm?
anti skate should be set to zero for DJ use
@@Tech_Soul Both for mixing and for scratching?
@@IvanSabo no only for scratching
@@Tech_Soul Thanks!
Do you still feel the same about the turntables today?
Can anyone recommend some good needles to use with these for scratching? Preferably recommendations both from the reloop brand and other brands too.
I'd say Shure carts but they stopped production. Couldn't source enough quality parts from suppliers.
im using classic Ortofon Nightclub
With the phase dj interface the turntable won’t matter anymore if dvs is your thing which it is for most
Jay Werx not entirely tru, the platter and specs and the pitch fader will all still work the same way and effect the performance of phase
It’s hard to pick these over Technics even though there’s a huge price difference.
no its easy spec for your idiot self
@Richard Taylor sorry sucker but the only thing 12s have is legacy .the harpins have greater torque and way more options for todays djs ,if you take care of ne record player it will last you a long time ,so how am i wrong here ?
I noticed that the platter is not recessed!,.....does that make a difference whn u do a lil Platter Pitching??*(dats mine...lol)
Cory Williams It takes a little adjustment as to where you place your finger, but otherwise feels the same.
MojaxxVDJ Cool!....Thanks!
Reloop 7000 Better than technics, i had both, and if i had Money to respend on turnantables i spend It on reloop
what a load of rubbish!
@@danizm78 you are too
My kind straight in the GROVE
Do you expect an RP-8000MK2 soon?
Heath Hammond I have no advance knowledge on that subject, and so can speculate, ‘probably’.
Would you recommend the Pioneer PLX 1000 over the Reloop 7000 MK2?
same thing both are just like technics 1200 i used technics for 30 years,so pioneer plx 1000 and reloop 7000 mk2 . like i said same thing.dont buy technics they are selling just the name rip off.believme again technics is just for fools who wants just the name because they have money again reloop 7000 mk2 and the plx 1000 are the best in themarket now
M5G'S FOR LIFE!
RP 7000 or Stanton st150?
They’re basically the same so whichever one you prefer 👍
i want to experience the digital pitch
Is this turntable great for audiophile listening?
What kind of needles I can use for thanks
Heroin needles
Ok thanks
@@MultiChino19 i was kidding, any needle will do, go for quality and not quantity. It’s all about knowing how to balance the tone arm for the cartridge, the anti skate if you’re scratching. Lots of good videos out there that explain how to set this up so you have optimal performance for your application. Cheers buddy
@@adriannavarro2536 thanks for the info
How come reviewers always get perfect models? You know that have gone through basic quality control?
Super OEM?? What does that mean
It's a bit of an artificial made up term which actually just used for turntables to label OEM based turntables as premium to put them in the league of the technics (basically because of all these overly obsessed and indoctrinated technics sect members who look down on OEM)...so, technically they are OEM turntables and to highlight the excellent quality the word "super" is added
NTX 1000 review when?
GODIGY Not long now. These came in a few weeks earlier.
You say in video, that wow & flutter not as good as at Technics 1200s. So that's not a true value 0,01 % for this model? Old Technics has 0,025 WRMS. So actually reloop rp-7000 should be better at this important spec....
You are wrong, reloop is manipulating little bit their technical specs. 0.01 is 0.025 % W.R.M.S. which is different method of measuring. So basically on paper they should be the same but reloop has extra * saying that could be some " imperfection" reloop should provide only W.R.M.S. measurements like technics does which is " hard" way
Does anybody know if this turntable is great for mixing as well? I’ m a little wary about the digital pitch.
RADIANTSLUDGE yes that’s my only concern buying these.. Might just have to go with the crazy prices of 1210s after all
Smartlad some people have had problems with it im going to test them out myself and the plx 1000
I use with dvs and love mixing with them
To be honest can't really tell the difference!
Genuinely no idea what people are talking about with this, these are my first purchase of DJ equipment since I sold my m3d's about 6 years ago and my first purchase of "digital" equipment. Over the years I played on dozens of not hundreds of pairs of technics and I could use these no problem first time I set them up.
Some additional notes: the text on start/stop button is printed, so it will wash out in time. I saw it on hardly used mk1 - buttons became clear with no text. Also why i will never buy it is because of aesthetics. I reeeeally dont like this empty space on the left and platter floating over the body. Looks stupid for me.plx1000is closer to ideal, but it has round cdj button and +250eur price "because... pioneer"©