Thanks for watching this episode with Dr. Nina Teicholz! If you're finding it valuable, please let me know by hitting the LIKE button on the video. I really appreciate the support 🙏 -Jesse 💙
As I always say every time I listen to Nina Teicholz, she deserves a Nobel Prize in health for her work, her writing, Ted Talks, etc.; for her exposé of people like Ancel Keys, as well as big food industry, the ridiculous dietary and health guidelines, etc. Thank heavens for her. And kudos for Jesse for always doing phenomenal videos, in long format and letting his guests speak at length. He never interrupts either which is so refreshing. Jesse you are one of the best -- you are always prepared and able to do deep dives with all your guests on your podcasts.
Totally agree. I have unfollowed many podcasts because the hosts continually interrupt- one in particular who makes every statement or question about himself and his experiences. Jesse asked the best questions and extracts the best info from his guests.
Thanks for speaking up! It's crazy how nobody's talking about how the big pharma is trying to censor 'Health and Beauty Mastery' by Julian Bannett for exposing industry lies. The book is a life changer
I'm 78 and have been 99+% carnivore now for 18 months. High saturated fat, moderate protein, zero seed oils, as close to zero carbs as possible. I went from 7 meds to one, no more arthritis pain, no antidepressants, no hand tremors, Cardiologist took me off of all heart meds, etc. I think100 carbs a day is way too high. that is definitely not low carb.
🤗Hey Jesse ! Nina Teicholz is phenomenal thank you so much for putting out this eye opening information again; people forget too easy, it needs to be said over and over again. We cannot leave it for those who push misinformation; keep getting it out there Man you are a superstar 💥
Was a cardiac nurse for 30 years. Seen this firsthand. This was invaluable information. Last five years I eliminated seed oils and products that contain them for my family. I knew the info on sodium and dietary cholesterol was wrong. The saturated fat got me but I since have changed that as well. Kudos to the Dr for her life’s work her tremendous contribution to human health!
Misinformation comes first. Human damage doesn't matter. How more evil does it get. Thkyou for putting out the truth.the awareness can help all that are suffering chronicly.
Jesse, thank you for another great video. Nina is one of the most articulate and learned journalists in the nutrition realm. Support her Nutrition Coalition! But my real comment is this: if the guidelines miraculously changed for the better and everyone suddenly became enlightened about what healthy foods actually are, and then they stopped eating the unhealthy foods- grains, legumes, starchy veg, fruits, anything sweet or refined, seed oils, etc etc etc… the economy would collapse!
I've been carnivore for just over a year now. I feel great, am no longer borderline T2 diabetic and my joint pain and weight are significantly reduced. A recent blood test showed I was in the normal range for all markers with the exception of LDL cholesterol which was elevated as expected. With all of that, my doctor recommended a dietary change. The tunnel vision is absolutely amazing. Never once does she question that her beliefs regarding LDL might just be wrong.
Jesse, please turn on Subtitles/closed captions [always] . . . for those of us who don't hear well. Excellent interview. I have been reading her book, "The Big FAT Surprise" recently to date.
It is absurd that great people like Taubes, Teicholz, Lustig, Fung, Bikman, Diamond, Mason, Jamnadas, and many more, have been ignored and contonue to be ignored for now decades. Evne Credit Suisse has produced a projection of a postive future for low carb diets, having their teams reviewed the acual EVIDENCE.
I'm all in with Dr. Teicholz for sure... I can remember the early days of crisco and we had absolutely no clue on what it was .. It was advertised as healthy, same as margarine and soybean oil... I'm 100% down with coconut oil and water and fiber now that I live in the Philippines. Coconut vinegar is AOK also.
I was keto years ago before keto was “cool”. Keto for 5 years. The result was my testosterone tanked, sleep was terrible and my competitive running suffered. Went to 50% healthy carbs, 30% protein and 20% fat. Now all my blood work is normal. Glucose is 74. Triglycerides are 76 and HDL 89. Sleep is great. Running back on point. And I now enjoy food again. Saturated fat will gum up your insulin receptors and not allow glucose to enter muscle cells. While I was on keto my liver was producing glucose but my insulin receptor were blocked due to sat fat. I reversed this with lowering fat and increasing healthy carbs
The guidelines support a diet that is addictive. When the population is suffering from an addiction that is supported by the government it is very hard to turn things around. People's first thoughts are "don't take away my comfort foods." They don't realize that the foods we eat makes us miserable.
Jason I Look forward to all your interviews. You have a knack getting to important answers . Still awaiting your interview with Dr. Jerry Tennant “ Healing is Voltage “ 😊
It would be good to consider putting CC subtitles for people who don't speak English well and are very interested in their topics. thanks from Sonora Mexico
We need to change the food guidelines & the food pyramid. Most of traditional doctors are misinformed about nutrition. A doctor of 20 years told me that eating 1 egg a day can lead to heart attack lol & she is all against keto & low carb because of a patient with a condition dyslipidemia doing a ketogenic diet for 2 months & she was blaming it all to the ket diet. & ohh yeah she said "i dont like ketones flowing around because it makes the blood acidic". 😅😅😅
I shared a different video about seed oils with Nina, Chris Knobbe, and "the carnivore MD" to a registered dietician and PhD in nutrition. Here was her response: Currently, the research points more to emphasizing whole foods and minimizing ultra-processed foods, rather than just eliminating seed oils. "There are a couple good consumer articles that include links to research articles explaining why it’s more effective to look a little bigger picture than just seed oils (these Harvard and Mass Gen articles). I will say that their comments in the video about saturated fats (animal fats and coconut oil, which is a plant oil high in saturated fats) are jumping over a ton of high-quality research that does indeed link saturated fat to heart disease; so I do typically recommend folks use olive oil or avocado oil, rather than animal fats." I want to send some articles back to her re: saturated fats.
It has always amazed me that heart disease really wasn't an issue before "STATINS" were created. Now, people are dropping all over the place with or without that drug.
You can't call a keto diet on grams of carb intake. It's the balance of fat, protein, carbs, exogenous ketones, adipose tissue and activity level. Heaven forbid they drink alcohol.
The thing will all those exotic salts talked about at the end of the video is not necessarily about the salt itself & is more about the extra minerals that might be included in these salts. From what I understand all salts are made up of the 2 same elements.
The word "refined" needs to be included here. Carbs from raw food protect you with fibre. Some of those Blue Zones can be very high carb, but they present as real food. Although some veg can be problematic, they can have a role to play in making your diet more interesting. I love some tomatoes and onions fried up with my rib-eye can often include some steamed cabbage to mash up with the fried toms and onions. But I would never include bread, or chips. If I am still hungry aftere the steak I just have an egg or two; nature's perfect complete meal. THe dangerous carbs - all sugars and any thing made with flour of any kind as these impact the digestive system very forcefully spiking BS and Insulin.
Another excellent interview, thanks Jesse. Your questions are always thoughtful, composed and pertinent. re Dr Teicholz's comments (37:00) : The scientists and nutritionists who run "ZOE nutrition" (Prof Tim Spector et al) continually repeat how vitally important the condition of our gut microbiome is for overall metabolic health...That it's complex effects are steadily being (scientifically) unravelled. And equally they often mention fibre as a key component in improving the diversity of beneficial bacteria in our colon. It's so confusing for the general public to make sense of these opposite opinions (often based on chosen, selected and conflicting research studies). Maybe you could invite Tim Spector onto your brilliant podcast sometime soon? That would be very interesting!
I'm sort of surprised to find that Nina is so relaxed about her own dietary habits, not knowing about UVB for vit. D, etc. (She's done such a great job with her journalism and investigations I guess I expect her to know about everything and forgot that she's a human like the rest of us ha ha)
But, it palm oil is mostly saturated fats and it's cheap enough, how are they getting away with adding it to their products? I assume they're not adding a great deal of it to other oils.
Well, here's the truth to the whole matter regarding LD L LDL is a transport molecule of cholesterol. It is not cholesterol, and it should not be given any attention whatsoever.
Changing the (USA) gov't dietary guidelines, which other countries, including my own of Australia, mimic is definitely a pushing poo uphill task. Here's an idea - REMOVE all 'gov't dietary guidelines' -- it's noise and gets in the way of folks taking on new science and information available via the grassroots workers and experts such as Nina. Same approach BTW to fix the IRS - unfund them beyond basic collection / administration - flat rate 5-10% tax on all income (personal and corporate), NO DEDUCTIONS. 😂
Sugar is the enemy. It makes people addicted to it from an early age - breakfast cereals, sugary beverages etc. Sugar cravings make people want to believe the lies that most carbs are good for you.
Significant support for Trump and republicans comes from the grain belt states. Being pragmatic and politics being politics I don’t think we’ll see any significant change in our governments food policy.
hi from uk.. I have been following a lot of your interviews talking to imminent people on the subject who have been talking so much on gut microbiome feeds on fibre and stresses the importance of it.. or else the mucin layer gets eaten up and the tight junctions get eroded and the bad bacteria entering the circulation stimulating a cascade of immunological reactions etc... etc.. and now you simply say fibre is not that important in your diet ..I am so confused !!!
Keep watching the 'proper human nutrition' space to (continue to) widen, deepen and develop your understanding. There is divided opinion, as with many fields of interest. One highly-informed and really listenable commentator is Dr Zoe Harcombe (Cambridge grad based in Wales). She explains this really well.
With no time trying to be enlighten by knowledge of self help but most conversations are about whom is wrong. We are done with that when attempting to learn further so Jessie please avoid busting stuff and just tell us what can be done. I hope I’m clear.
Her talk om diet is good enough, but she has no clue of cholesterol, i get sick when people begin talking about smal, large or boyant LDL particles, like this has something to do with cholesterol. you might probably have a particle problem, but this has nothing to do with cholesterol! This is absolutly not possible to get into people's head!
I doubt it. This is NOT maga nonsense. Not a conspiracy theory either. I'm as far from the MAGA world as is humanly possible and I've done my research and this stuff is all true. She deserves a Nobel Prize in Health!!!
Just wanted to listen to her... But you ask a lot of the right question. I just Thought you where kind of nerdy dude.. I change my opinion of you... You're pretty cool...🫡👍
Thanks for watching this episode with Dr. Nina Teicholz! If you're finding it valuable, please let me know by hitting the LIKE button on the video. I really appreciate the support 🙏 -Jesse 💙
And she’s so damn cute.
As I always say every time I listen to Nina Teicholz, she deserves a Nobel Prize in health for her work, her writing, Ted Talks, etc.; for her exposé of people like Ancel Keys, as well as big food industry, the ridiculous dietary and health guidelines, etc. Thank heavens for her. And kudos for Jesse for always doing phenomenal videos, in long format and letting his guests speak at length. He never interrupts either which is so refreshing. Jesse you are one of the best -- you are always prepared and able to do deep dives with all your guests on your podcasts.
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Aren’t u done with exposing? We should learn what is good for us, period.
Totally agree. I have unfollowed many podcasts because the hosts continually interrupt- one in particular who makes every statement or question about himself and his experiences. Jesse asked the best questions and extracts the best info from his guests.
Thanks for speaking up! It's crazy how nobody's talking about how the big pharma is trying to censor 'Health and Beauty Mastery' by Julian Bannett for exposing industry lies. The book is a life changer
Nina is so right about the unhealthy foods given to people in hospitals,nursing homes,and schools. Thanks for having her on your show.
I'm 78 and have been 99+% carnivore now for 18 months. High saturated fat, moderate protein, zero seed oils, as close to zero carbs as possible. I went from 7 meds to one, no more arthritis pain, no antidepressants, no hand tremors, Cardiologist took me off of all heart meds, etc. I think100 carbs a day is way too high. that is definitely not low carb.
Great! Yes! Low carb in my book is 20 grams or less. 100 seems like very high carb if you are keto or carnivore.
I never use seed oils and I store my almonds,pecans,walnuts in the freezer.Nina is correct in stating that nuts oxidize at room temps.
🤗Hey Jesse ! Nina Teicholz is phenomenal thank you so much for putting out this eye opening information again; people forget too easy, it needs to be said over and over again. We cannot leave it for those who push misinformation; keep getting it out there Man you are a superstar 💥
When I was taking an animal production science class at Utah State University in 1982 our professor warned us against the dangers of the fry oil.
Thanks again Nina for all your hard work, it will pay off in the future as there are plenty of us that are listening. 😇
Was a cardiac nurse for 30 years. Seen this firsthand. This was invaluable information. Last five years I eliminated seed oils and products that contain them for my family. I knew the info on sodium and dietary cholesterol was wrong. The saturated fat got me but I since have changed that as well. Kudos to the Dr for her life’s work her tremendous contribution to human health!
Misinformation comes first. Human damage doesn't matter. How more evil does it get.
Thkyou for putting out the truth.the awareness can help all that are suffering chronicly.
This woman is a genius, bless her
Excellent - thanks for having Nina on. Appreciate your channel very much - your interview technique is outstanding.
Thank you for watching and for the kind words :)
Nina is my hero!
Jesse, thank you for another great video. Nina is one of the most articulate and learned journalists in the nutrition realm. Support her Nutrition Coalition!
But my real comment is this: if the guidelines miraculously changed for the better and everyone suddenly became enlightened about what healthy foods actually are, and then they stopped eating the unhealthy foods- grains, legumes, starchy veg, fruits, anything sweet or refined, seed oils, etc etc etc… the economy would collapse!
I've been carnivore for just over a year now. I feel great, am no longer borderline T2 diabetic and my joint pain and weight are significantly reduced. A recent blood test showed I was in the normal range for all markers with the exception of LDL cholesterol which was elevated as expected. With all of that, my doctor recommended a dietary change. The tunnel vision is absolutely amazing. Never once does she question that her beliefs regarding LDL might just be wrong.
The big food/pharma industrial complex is extremely powerful. A healthy society is a non profitable one.
Reading the “Big Fat Surprise” a couple of months after starting a low carb diet, back in 2018, marked the beginning of my ‘awakening’. Thanks Nina.
Jesse, please turn on Subtitles/closed captions [always] . . . for those of us who don't hear well. Excellent interview. I have been reading her book, "The Big FAT Surprise" recently to date.
I love Nina Teicholz. She’s the kitty’s meow!
Yeah, Nina Teicholz. She is great. Love here book ❤ Very happy you inteview her 😊 Cant wait to listen to the interview 🥰👍Watching from Germany
Enjoy :)
Love Nina! This is awesome Jesse! Wooohooooo! 😍👍
She is one of a few strong voices who won’t back down in the meat base diet from the beginning of this movement ❤🙏
It is absurd that great people like Taubes, Teicholz, Lustig, Fung, Bikman, Diamond, Mason, Jamnadas, and many more, have been ignored and contonue to be ignored for now decades. Evne Credit Suisse has produced a projection of a postive future for low carb diets, having their teams reviewed the acual EVIDENCE.
✨️Brilliant, just ordered Dr. Teicholz' book. Thank you!
Great interview. Thank you both.
Nina is oh so right about iodine as well. Good thought thank you.
I'm all in with Dr. Teicholz for sure... I can remember the early days of crisco and we had absolutely no clue on what it was .. It was advertised as healthy, same as margarine and soybean oil... I'm 100% down with coconut oil and water and fiber now that I live in the Philippines. Coconut vinegar is AOK also.
I was keto years ago before keto was “cool”. Keto for 5 years. The result was my testosterone tanked, sleep was terrible and my competitive running suffered. Went to 50% healthy carbs, 30% protein and 20% fat. Now all my blood work is normal. Glucose is 74. Triglycerides are 76 and HDL 89. Sleep is great. Running back on point. And I now enjoy food again. Saturated fat will gum up your insulin receptors and not allow glucose to enter muscle cells. While I was on keto my liver was producing glucose but my insulin receptor were blocked due to sat fat. I reversed this with lowering fat and increasing healthy carbs
The guidelines support a diet that is addictive. When the population is suffering from an addiction that is supported by the government it is very hard to turn things around. People's first thoughts are "don't take away my comfort foods." They don't realize that the foods we eat makes us miserable.
Jason I Look forward to all your interviews. You have a knack getting to important answers .
Still awaiting your interview with Dr. Jerry Tennant “ Healing is Voltage “ 😊
Jesse :) Thanks! I appreciate the suggestion
Change the guideline creators- should have no vested interests. Would love to see Nina in charge!
Excellent point re; their vestedness. Move them on!
It would be good to consider putting CC subtitles for people who don't speak English well and are very interested in their topics. thanks from Sonora Mexico
Wonderful Nina
If you eat too much salt, you'll end up drinking your way out of it. You just get thirsty.
Read the labels of stuff you buy.
We need to change the food guidelines & the food pyramid. Most of traditional doctors are misinformed about nutrition. A doctor of 20 years told me that eating 1 egg a day can lead to heart attack lol & she is all against keto & low carb because of a patient with a condition dyslipidemia doing a ketogenic diet for 2 months & she was blaming it all to the ket diet.
& ohh yeah she said "i dont like ketones flowing around because it makes the blood acidic". 😅😅😅
Great guest !! 🙂👍
I no longer buy any type of food that has a label.
I shared a different video about seed oils with Nina, Chris Knobbe, and "the carnivore MD" to a registered dietician and PhD in nutrition. Here was her response: Currently, the research points more to emphasizing whole foods and minimizing ultra-processed foods, rather than just eliminating seed oils. "There are a couple good consumer articles that include links to research articles explaining why it’s more effective to look a little bigger picture than just seed oils (these Harvard and Mass Gen articles). I will say that their comments in the video about saturated fats (animal fats and coconut oil, which is a plant oil high in saturated fats) are jumping over a ton of high-quality research that does indeed link saturated fat to heart disease; so I do typically recommend folks use olive oil or avocado oil, rather than animal fats." I want to send some articles back to her re: saturated fats.
Would be interesting to know what food the people setting these guidelines are eating
It has always amazed me that heart disease really wasn't an issue before "STATINS" were created. Now, people are dropping all over the place with or without that drug.
You can't call a keto diet on grams of carb intake. It's the balance of fat, protein, carbs, exogenous ketones, adipose tissue and activity level. Heaven forbid they drink alcohol.
The thing will all those exotic salts talked about at the end of the video is not necessarily about the salt itself & is more about the extra minerals that might be included in these salts. From what I understand all salts are made up of the 2 same elements.
The word "refined" needs to be included here. Carbs from raw food protect you with fibre. Some of those Blue Zones can be very high carb, but they present as real food. Although some veg can be problematic, they can have a role to play in making your diet more interesting. I love some tomatoes and onions fried up with my rib-eye can often include some steamed cabbage to mash up with the fried toms and onions. But I would never include bread, or chips. If I am still hungry aftere the steak I just have an egg or two; nature's perfect complete meal. THe dangerous carbs - all sugars and any thing made with flour of any kind as these impact the digestive system very forcefully spiking BS and Insulin.
What about using cold pressed seed oils like Sesame oil and mustard oil etc, which are not refined?
They still contain too much omega 6 compared to omega 3, and they are high in plant sterols which are now implicated in heart disease.
now consider the effect of blood glucose spikes on our _vascular endothelial glycocalyx_ (eGCX).
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Let’s hope that the new administration with RFK can shine some light on this issue!! Hopefully will make America healthy again!!! ❤
Youre in for a gigantic disappointment. Big business is #1 for Republicans. So nothing will change.
You're welcome.
Another excellent interview, thanks Jesse. Your questions are always thoughtful, composed and pertinent.
re Dr Teicholz's comments (37:00) : The scientists and nutritionists who run "ZOE nutrition" (Prof Tim Spector et al) continually repeat how vitally important the condition of our gut microbiome is for overall metabolic health...That it's complex effects are steadily being (scientifically) unravelled. And equally they often mention fibre as a key component in improving the diversity of beneficial bacteria in our colon. It's so confusing for the general public to make sense of these opposite opinions (often based on chosen, selected and conflicting research studies). Maybe you could invite Tim Spector onto your brilliant podcast sometime soon? That would be very interesting!
Thank you! Tim's been on 2x already :)
@@JesseChappus Damn! Missed it. Time to catch up!
What is the daily requirement for protein? Is the earlier guideline of taking 0.8 to 1 mg per Kg body weight of protein, still valid?
I'm sort of surprised to find that Nina is so relaxed about her own dietary habits, not knowing about UVB for vit. D, etc. (She's done such a great job with her journalism and investigations I guess I expect her to know about everything and forgot that she's a human like the rest of us ha ha)
But, it palm oil is mostly saturated fats and it's cheap enough, how are they getting away with adding it to their products? I assume they're not adding a great deal of it to other oils.
Watching grpm Aruba
Well, here's the truth to the whole matter regarding LD L LDL is a transport molecule of cholesterol. It is not cholesterol, and it should not be given any attention whatsoever.
Changing the (USA) gov't dietary guidelines, which other countries, including my own of Australia, mimic is definitely a pushing poo uphill task. Here's an idea - REMOVE all 'gov't dietary guidelines' -- it's noise and gets in the way of folks taking on new science and information available via the grassroots workers and experts such as Nina. Same approach BTW to fix the IRS - unfund them beyond basic collection / administration - flat rate 5-10% tax on all income (personal and corporate), NO DEDUCTIONS. 😂
Healthy carbs are not the enemy.
Sugar is the enemy. It makes people addicted to it from an early age - breakfast cereals, sugary beverages etc. Sugar cravings make people want to believe the lies that most carbs are good for you.
Seems like we are talking about the Biggest Mobs on the Planet🤔🤔Yep we are
Significant support for Trump and republicans comes from the grain belt states. Being pragmatic and politics being politics I don’t think we’ll see any significant change in our governments food policy.
Watching from Fiji 🇫🇯
WOW!!!!!!
She’s needs a cabinet appointment.
hi from uk.. I have been following a lot of your interviews talking to imminent people on the subject who have been talking so much on gut microbiome feeds on fibre and stresses the importance of it.. or else the mucin layer gets eaten up and the tight junctions get eroded and the bad bacteria entering the circulation stimulating a cascade of immunological reactions etc... etc.. and now you simply say fibre is not that important in your diet ..I am so confused !!!
Keep watching the 'proper human nutrition' space to (continue to) widen, deepen and develop your understanding. There is divided opinion, as with many fields of interest. One highly-informed and really listenable commentator is Dr Zoe Harcombe (Cambridge grad based in Wales). She explains this really well.
With no time trying to be enlighten by knowledge of self help but most conversations are about whom is wrong. We are done with that when attempting to learn further so Jessie please avoid busting stuff and just tell us what can be done. I hope I’m clear.
Keto doesn’t work. Zero carb is the best.
Her talk om diet is good enough, but she has no clue of cholesterol, i get sick when people begin talking about smal, large or boyant LDL particles, like this has something to do with cholesterol. you might probably have a particle problem, but this has nothing to do with cholesterol! This is absolutly not possible to get into people's head!
Please elaborate. Sources?
Particle sizes do have a lot to do with cholesterol. Just listen to the experts on cholesterol.
1st
HUH? What do you mean by "first" as your comment?
Is she a MAGA supporter???
I think she is demonstrating that she is a human being supporter
I doubt it. This is NOT maga nonsense. Not a conspiracy theory either. I'm as far from the MAGA world as is humanly possible and I've done my research and this stuff is all true. She deserves a Nobel Prize in Health!!!
Highly doubtful imho.
Who cares as long as she gives factual info. People bring in politics on any topic or video smh
Just wanted to listen to her...
But you ask a lot of the right question. I just Thought you where kind of nerdy dude..
I change my opinion of you...
You're pretty cool...🫡👍
Haha ;)
He does ask the best questions to get the most out of conversations