TSA needs to IMMEDIATELY address the dangers of passengers bring too many folders of paper onto the aircraft. 3oz of liquid allowed, so maybe 3 pieces of paper? No larger than 8.5/11", of course.
Same, and also with (paraphrased): "The pilot will be flying the plane, while the engineer and first officer try to get the plane to stop screaming at them".
that reminds me of when Kelsey did the radio show and was asked something like "when should we panic, as a passenger" question - I mean, if you see the wings falling off you might as well, ain't gonna help but whatever
Hey Kelsey, fun fact - the crash scene was filmed not too far away from me. I had a family friend who got a part as an extra when daylight came and Tommy Lee Jones was working with local police. So that plane was submerged after filming and a local scuba diving school lets people swim down to it. Maybe you should make that trip then look on the instrument panel for the "dive" lettering!
I'm glad Hollywood doesn't run an airline, you'd never live through a flight, and you can take down one of their planes with a roll of toilet paper and a pellet gun. And the pilots graduated from Daffy ducks' school of aeronautics.
Likely the paper was just there to show the air leaving the hole in the plane. It's light and cheap. But appeals makes at least a little sense to handwave this Hollywoodism off.
@@broomhwauser3380 The Ye Olde Pub comes to mind. You'd look at that and just think "that aircraft has no business still being airborne" but they flew it all the way out of Germany.
@@josho.757 you should check out the Hawaii flight that had its roof torn off mid flight and still landed (mostly) intact, and only 1 person was killed. Good also to note it was a 747 at crusing altitude
@@V100-e5q still a fact it flew with half the roof peeled off and part of one side if I’m not mistaken. Only fatality was a flight attendant not buckled in who was walking the aisle.
23:39 The brakes on the 727 are operated by hydraulic system B (normally) or A (by opening an interconnect valve). If both hydraulic systems fail, the brakes can be applied using the backup pneumatic braking system. In that case antiskid would not be available, which would explain the wheels locking up. On the other hand, the control for the pneumatic brakes is visible at 23:30 (the red handle above and to the right of the captain's altimeter), and we can see that they weren't being used.
My takeaway from this is that the following points are accurate: the plane has some wings, and the plane has some wheels. Pretty much everything else is fiction.
"These people are in jail because they're not good at following instructions and that's also apparent because none of them have put on their oxygen masks" I can't stop laughing
Also, you see them go into the brace position, before they land, and then when they land they're all sitting back up again. So even when they follow instruction they don't do it for long. xD
@@brianmcdaniels8249 But during the crash you see at least one guy reach up over his head as the cabin starts to flip. so they could have reached for the masks.
@@davidmcmahon4633 once they reach 10,000 ft there's no need for masks. You wouldn't need them *on the ground*. Did this movie have aviation technical advisors, or did they make it up as they went along?
Unrelated... I was out spotting last week at BFI and saw an Asiana 74 depart SEA with its gear fully extended and starting its bank over Puget Sound. Without thinking, under my breath I muttered, "Git yer gear up." I may have moved away from Texas but thanks to Kelsey I speak with an accent when discussing aviation 🤣
Hey Kelsey, just a quick reminder. The engines on this plane are tailmounted and very close to the longitudinal axis. So there wouldn´t be a very big angular momentum in any direction when using reverese. Still correct but just not as severe. Regards from a Business Aviation Pilot from Germany, really enjoying your videos.
Only when using all three or just the middle one. The scenario, however, has the middle one and one other not working, so you're just using the one on the other wing. Now it's still less than on many other aircraft, but definitely asymmetrical. How bad that would be, I couldn't say.
@@KaiHenningsen all 3 engines are tail mounted. None of them is at the wing. Yes I got that only the Lefthand engine is still running and therefore will be using reverse if the others failed (different when they are on fire). Still you're right there will be a moment but not as severe as I said. All the planes I fly have tail mounted engines and I had to use reverse thrust on only one engine once. I'm flying a different type from the one in the video but in regards to physics it's comparable to mine. The effect ist very easy to counteract with just nose wheel steering.
"All the paper has already flown out, including the two manuscripts written by the convicts that went into engines 2 and 3..." That had my howling with laughter.
Gravity is a COnspiracy Theory, things only fall because they are heavier than air, gravity cannot be proven because it doesnt exit which makes it a Conspiracy theory!!! Very SImple!
When my husband and I go on a holiday by car, I always drive faster when we are going back home. Part of it is that I don't need so much navigation because I have not only 'going home' gear, but also 'going home' beacon. :D I'm happy to find out this is a natural occurence and not just me!
@Aircastles101 I used to have a little mare that did ok until she realized you were heading home, then there was nothing you could do short of using a breaker bit, which I wouldn't do, to control her. She was heading home no matter what. The first time this happened she threw me and I had to walk home over a mile away. When I got there she was in her stable calmly eating her feed. LOL
There was a case in the 70s were a dc-9 lost all engines in a hailstorm, ended up crash landing on a highway. Crashed into a car, killing all occupants, before crashing into a gas station, causing a huge explosion, destroying the plane.The irony was that there was an airport nearby, the pilots just didn’t have the charts for it.
@@jaysmith1408 Ouch! Makes one appreciate all the more the controller in the Miracle on the Hudson not-a-crash who did manage to find and clear other landing spots! (Doubtless not the same circumstances as much closer to the airport of origin, granted.)
Kelsey I would say 95% of people that watch movies where there is airplanes ✈️ involved in an emergency situation don’t know the difference between reality and Hollywood including myself but watching your videos and listening to you , you really have your shit together about airplanes and how they work I really enjoy watching your videos..
"...you never see two pilots with their hands on the controls at the same time, even in an emergency situation." *flashback on the United Airlines flight 232 accident*
Sort of off topic but I was super excited to see Leon Lush covering Kelsey's bad TikTok advice video! I love Kelsey and I love Leon! I just got laid off from a job that I put my heart and soul into for years so I needed that! These guys make my heart smile. Thank you Kelsey!!!
About 40 percent of a cabin’s air gets filtered through the HEPA system; the remaining 60 percent is fresh and piped in from outside the plane. using bleed air from the engines. Cabin air is completely changed every three minutes, on average, while the aircraft is cruising,
Yeah the cabin air on a typical commercial aircraft is cleaner than the air in many hospitals. It just feels stale to people because of the lower pressure. Similar to why the food never really tastes good
It needs to be for one, planes are not spacecraft or submarines and have nowhere neither the O2 nor the scrubbers and regenerators needed to function as a sealed unit with such dense occupation. Humans process about 25% of the O2 out of around 7-8 litres of air per minute each and that is at sea level. A passenger plane would likely be a hypoxic deathtrap within a few hours at most without an external source of fresh Oxygen. Fortunately they have a plentiful supply of said gas outside that merely needs it's pressure adjusting upwards slightly a problem easily solved by a compressor.
@RogerWilco99 Yes indeed, this is actually what I meant when I said there was neither the O2 or the scrubbers on board. My point was that in no way shape or form is an aircraft equipped to be self sufficient in terms of maintaining it's atmosphere, it relies on controlled gas exchange with the biosphere regulated one outside for that.
I think what ACTUALLY happens during rapid decompression is actually much more visual than papers flying around. The spontaneous condensation of the moisture in the air.
We used to do pressurization checks on our KC-135 aircraft. We would do emergency depressurizations, and the entire aircraft interior would suddenly be covered in fog. Also extremely cold. Pretty cool unless your sinuses are blocked.
I've been Binge watching all those old airport classics, I'm sure Kelsey would agree with the skirt chasing. Notice in those old movies every actor had a cigarette and drink in the other hand, you could be crashing and the FA would bring another drink
I have now seen a couple dozen of your videos - The company you work for should commend you for your channel. Constantly talking about things that can go wrong, corrective actions that can be taken... ... You spend a great deal of your own time speaking about your job and your experiences and your knowledge, this more than likely contributes to your job performance. As an occasional passenger I appreciate your professionalism.
I can answer the paper everywhere thing, the reason you get that is for the audience to get a sense of the velocity and volume of air being blown around, adds to the drama.
If you would like to know more, TH-cam it, there really is a "ConAir" it's only for Federal Movements, interesting watch. Ohh as far as Hollywood goes, those convicts would not be able to have anything on them, including Paper
@@DOUBLEDEFENSE you never had that ahaa moment for something you never considered important enough to actually think about why it's called that way but when you got it you were amazed that you learned something new ? 😂
That engine at the end failing was clearly the APU. (Lol. Just kidding, the directors would never have thought of that.) I also love how flammable the tail was, and how the telephone poles managed to rip the wing off NOT where the impacts were occurring, but where the wing joins the fuselage.
Kelsey, I would be very interested to hear you review the “Gimli Glider”; both the made-for-tv movie & the actual incident itself. Very interesting channel!
Gravity is a COnspiracy Theory, things only fall because they are heavier than air, gravity cannot be proven because it doesnt exit which makes it a Conspiracy theory!!! Very SImple!
@@seanthompson258 How can something have weight, if there is no gravity? ;-) But yes, using the wrong terms (what you meant to use is probably "dense") makes you a bad conspiracy theorist but it's almost enough for sarcasm.
@@haydenlummus8838 elevator mechanics have to periodically test the safety systems. Dropping a loaded elevator from the top floor has to be a fun day :)
Sparrow: So, we are at safe altitude, we have one engine working, and we are full of convicts. We should ask for closest airport and warn them that they need police on... Annoying crow: ROAD THERE IS A ROAD!
Lets see if I can explain this: All those papers you see flying out of those windows would be the actor's crib notes for when they forget their lines. They all must have dreadful memories considering the amount of paper there is. All those sirens at the end of the crash landing sequence would have be the GPWS telling them that they have no ground left to crash on and that engine shutting would have had to have had to have been the APU shutting down. APUs don't run very well under water, you see :P
3 channels I love and trust, captain Kelsey, captain joe, mentour pilot. All 3 channels are awesome. Very educational as I am currently building a RC place :)
Hey, could you make a video about the russian plane that crashed because the pilot let his son control it and he disabled the autopilot (Aeroflot Flight 593) There is recordings available, as well as the data of altitude, pitch and speed. When was the plane too late to save? Could they have saved it when it was already diving?
I swear if I watch any more of these, I'll be soon able to be a pilot impostor and noone's thinking I'm sus. How can Kelsey be so wholesome, and teach us so much at the same time?
That flight engineer was an anazing navigator. Falling from the sky, flying the first officer.. He pulled out his sextant and located them on the chart ... Giddy up!
@@mike30534 obsolete nighttime navigation tool since the 1970s for planes. You can determine your latitude by looking at the stars. If your navigation instruments are down in an area where radar can’t cover you such as oceans you can break out a sextant and determine your location that way. That’s what the tiny windows above the main cockpit windows of a 707, 727, and older 737s are for
I love these videos! Hollywood always has sudden decompression events lasting for minutes at a time. I don’t know where all that air is coming from that it’s continually blowing out the hole like a hurricane. I guess it’s coming from directly behind TLJ’s character in the little fenced in area?
Thank's again for my favourite series of yours! 😃👍 I have another suggestion for a "Hollywood vs. Reality". Do you know the TV-show "Lost"? Well, in season 5, episode 9, a Boeing 737 did an emergency landing on a short airstrip on an jungle-island and in season 6, episode 18 the same 737 took off from it again ... but there's a lot of Hollywood in it! 😁
In conclusion, the pilot would be able to land at the nearest airport, the police would circle to the plane to grab everybody and the movie would end after just a few minutes after starting? That's not Hollywood! They have to make millions no matter what!... Great work, Kelsey! Keep going! I really love your work.
The... APU? Maybe they cut the scene where they started it because it was boring (just flicking a switch) and it would be too correct (it would turn the whole damn thing into a documentary)
"Unless all the cons also have paperwork that they're having in their hands..." They could be playing Dungeons and Dragons to pass the time. I know I always have a ton of loose leaf paper about me, regardless if I'm a DM or a Player. (More so if I'm a DM.)
Now I'm wondering if anyone has ever investigated whether playing paper and pencil rpgs has helped convicts...either as rehabilitation or to improve mood or conduct. Convicts are generally allowed very little in terms of personal effects, so it would probably have to be a very rules-light gaming system.
Gravity is a COnspiracy Theory, things only fall because they are heavier than air, gravity cannot be proven because it doesnt exit which makes it a Conspiracy theory!!! Very SImple!
@@AC-ih7jc i too am curious about that. i worked for a small rpg company and we would offer discounted material for the holidays. i was surprised how many shipments went to correctional facilities.
@@estibon3872 Wow! That's really interesting. I have no first-hand (or second-hand, for that matter) experience with the corrections system, but I've been told that boredom is a major part of life for the incarcerated. RPGs (ones that don't require much gear) sound like a helpful outlet in siuations where there's an abundance of frustration + time. May I ask which rpg company it was that you worked for?
In my aviation safety class, we got an interesting piece of research: you can tell how experienced a pilot is by the last words they say before a crash. If it's the F-word, they're an inexperienced pilot. If it's the word that means the same as "crap" (the one bleeped out here,) they have experience. The theory was that F-word tends to be uttered in moments of "panic", whereas "crap-but-worse" tends to be when a bad thing is "expected". Experienced pilots tend to be able to see that bad thing is coming sooner - and while of course they do everything they can to prevent it from being worse, their utterance at the end tends to be one of resignation, not one of surprise.
The Living Daylights has a great scene with two planes at the end, which has lots of details. Really love to see that one picked apart. Especially the damage from the taxi accident. ;)
At the AF447 accident, the dual input of both pilots was part of the reasons the airplane crashed, as both inputs canceled each other. One pilot was pushing down, the other one was still pulling up.
Every time you mention the paper flying around I bust out laughing, it's so funny cuz I never thought about it even though I've seen this movie like a thousand times! Kelsey you're the best!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤎🤎🤎👍👍👍
It is a lot like on Star Trek. When they are in battle, the consoles the crew is at explode (I think they are powered by explodium) and it never fails, rocks come flying out.
I've seen that movie half a dozen times at least and never realized about the engine one being ripped off and then hearing an engine spool down. Love these types of videos
14:58 It's a 727. The hydraulic system is a bit odd by modern standards. But the important detail Engines 1 & 2 have pumps. Since they have #1, they're good. Also, no "C" system.
19:33 - actually, there have been some cases where there’s legit reason for both pilots having hands on controls - I recall some episodes of “Mayday” / “Air Crash Investigation” where, in an emergency on a plane with old cable-style controls, some control surface became so difficult to control that both pilots had to work the controls at once. But yeah, it’s rare - more often than not, having both pilots on the controls at once is going to _cause_ a crash, not prevent one. (See e.g. Air France 447.)
A key point about those flights where it has worked out was missing here though. In those cases you clearly hear the pilot flying calling the shots for what they want the other pilot to input so they are working together. You don't really see the CRM that would be necessary to make it work in the scenes here.
I actually got to scuba dive that exact "airplane". It's currently submerged at Marmet Springs in Illinois as a scuba attraction. We made the trip there as part of my Master Diver class.
Hey Kelsey, I really enjoy your videos! I do prefer your debrief videos of real events more than your Hollywood vs reality videos, but they are all fun.
Once again I ended up laughing like a drain at the end because as soon as I saw the paper falling through the air I knew what comment was coming…but didn’t expect the comedy spin. Keep up the good work! 😊
'comin up'..... i love you man. love your work. been feeling rough the last few weeks. You've done a lot to keep me comfy, familiar, feeling safe, and distracted. Much love brother. Keep it up
Love your videos. 8:06 From experience, I can tell you that it's very difficult to do something like putting on an oxygen mask when you're shackled. The immobility is very real when chained up like that. I always enjoy your breakdowns, and I'm glad most people don't know what it's like to fly on con air. :)
Love this'n. It is interesting that the broken engines were still providing the winding down sound...even while under water. I wonder whether Kelsey will ever do one of those crazy WWII air war movies like 12 O'clock High. I realize military flying is not commercial, but I betcha he know someone who could fill in the gaps, and it would be EPIC!
On second thought, Kelsey could just focus on the John Wayne films like "Flying Leathernecks" or "Jet Pilot", but he'd have to start a whole new thread.
I don't know how I previously missed this episode of Hollywood Versus Reality, but I totally agree with all the comments below about Kelsey's great sense of humour and exposition of the craziness of this particular movie. I am ALMOST tempted to go find it and watch it! But it can't be as funny as the scenes I have just watched as explained by Kelsey - you are a star!
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Imaginary deleted scene: Guy wandering around the airport, asking people if they've seen 80 pallets of paper lying around somewhere
That works. :-))
Well done. I laughed out loud.
@@seanjones2456 same lollll
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
🤣 I dyin ovet here.
"The captain's flying the plane. The 1st officer's also flying the plane. And the engineer seems to be flying the 1st officer." Absolute gold 🤣🤣🤣
hahaha i was just going to comment on that ❗️
Came on here to make that comment 😂
"Flying the First Officer"...Kelsey is clearly a superb pilot, and a born comedian.
Hysterical!
TSA needs to IMMEDIATELY address the dangers of passengers bring too many folders of paper onto the aircraft. 3oz of liquid allowed, so maybe 3 pieces of paper? No larger than 8.5/11", of course.
death by papercut.
@@owenbock5883 Damn... just imagine, how many papercurs would it take to kill you?
Imagine the boarding-gate tantrum as people argue US Letter vs A4. :D
Especially convicts. Maybe just a post-it note for them.
And newspaper too...
(check "Millwall brick")
Kelsey: "Where's all that paper coming from?!"
SkyMall magazine: "Hi there!"
"The engineer is flying the first officer." Coffee, spit.
Same, and also with (paraphrased): "The pilot will be flying the plane, while the engineer and first officer try to get the plane to stop screaming at them".
Hey! We don't judge. They could make a cute couple.
I love Kelsey's humor.
@@jackielinde7568 based on looks alone they totally would
@@bobd2659 pow
"Just so you know, there is no alarm for left wing getting ripped off"
Kelsey, you should do stand-up! This stuff is gold! :D
Jeff = Legend!
Plane stand up comedy!
It’d be a pretty limited audience.
"Con Air One to tower, we have a Missing Wing warning in the cockpit, can we do a fly-by for verification?"
Seems like an oversight. I think the pilots should be informed by alarm if a wing rips off.
25:07
"There is no alarm for a ripped wing coming off" 🤣🤣🤣🤣
It's usually next to the DIVE indicator.
@@randymeyer8624 Yeah, every submarine has a DIVE indicator.....
That's clearly a "sharp curve ahead" alarm!
In the event of a sharp turn, Tesla's autopilot will abruptly transfer control back to the driver. Oh, sound an alarm. Very helpful.
that reminds me of when Kelsey did the radio show and was asked something like "when should we panic, as a passenger" question - I mean, if you see the wings falling off you might as well, ain't gonna help but whatever
That had to have been the tallest road sign ever that they hit
stop, it already hurts to laugh thid much
I hadn't even thought of that but you're right! I did think something looked off about that but couldn't quite place it
Hey Kelsey, fun fact - the crash scene was filmed not too far away from me. I had a family friend who got a part as an extra when daylight came and Tommy Lee Jones was working with local police. So that plane was submerged after filming and a local scuba diving school lets people swim down to it. Maybe you should make that trip then look on the instrument panel for the "dive" lettering!
I've been thrown out of a lot of dives
@@jameswest8280 They're too high-class for you, eh?
@@TheEudaemonicPlague I'm usually higher than the plane.
I'm glad Hollywood doesn't run an airline, you'd never live through a flight, and you can take down one of their planes with a roll of toilet paper and a pellet gun. And the pilots graduated from Daffy ducks' school of aeronautics.
I'd love to just be in a classroom in that school though! xD
Not to mention their ATC skills are always atrocious.
Also to many snakes!
@@wesss9353 Snakes on a Plane, that's one of the new phrases for Dems.
Well, you could also climb outside in flight and parachute down in an inflatable raft. So it's not all bad.
"And the flight engineer flying the first officer" is my favourite Kelsey line ever. I let out a big laugh at that
The cons were sitting in the back drafting their appeals.
Lol, exactly
I think that Pilot wrote the appeal for a few of them
🤣🤣😂😂
I believe they were actually approving the scripts for their next "stereotypical bad guy" roles.
Likely the paper was just there to show the air leaving the hole in the plane. It's light and cheap. But appeals makes at least a little sense to handwave this Hollywoodism off.
As an aircraft structures mechanic, you'd be surprised what conditions a plane can truly fly under.
Just watch any world war II footage of bomber aviation for proof of that 😂
@@broomhwauser3380 The Ye Olde Pub comes to mind. You'd look at that and just think "that aircraft has no business still being airborne" but they flew it all the way out of Germany.
@@josho.757 you should check out the Hawaii flight that had its roof torn off mid flight and still landed (mostly) intact, and only 1 person was killed. Good also to note it was a 747 at crusing altitude
@@patrickgardner2204 Definitely not a 747. It was an Aloha Airlines 737.
@@V100-e5q still a fact it flew with half the roof peeled off and part of one side if I’m not mistaken. Only fatality was a flight attendant not buckled in who was walking the aisle.
23:39 The brakes on the 727 are operated by hydraulic system B (normally) or A (by opening an interconnect valve). If both hydraulic systems fail, the brakes can be applied using the backup pneumatic braking system. In that case antiskid would not be available, which would explain the wheels locking up. On the other hand, the control for the pneumatic brakes is visible at 23:30 (the red handle above and to the right of the captain's altimeter), and we can see that they weren't being used.
9:18 "...the engineer seems to be flying the First Officer..." I love it!
“The engineer seems to be flying the first officer” I CHOKED
same lmao
🤣
OMG that killed me xD
My takeaway from this is that the following points are accurate: the plane has some wings, and the plane has some wheels. Pretty much everything else is fiction.
"These people are in jail because they're not good at following instructions and that's also apparent because none of them have put on their oxygen masks" I can't stop laughing
They're handcuffed. /boggle
@@brianmcdaniels8249 now i cant stop laughing 😂😂😂😂
Also, you see them go into the brace position, before they land, and then when they land they're all sitting back up again. So even when they follow instruction they don't do it for long. xD
@@brianmcdaniels8249 But during the crash you see at least one guy reach up over his head as the cabin starts to flip. so they could have reached for the masks.
@@davidmcmahon4633 once they reach 10,000 ft there's no need for masks. You wouldn't need them *on the ground*. Did this movie have aviation technical advisors, or did they make it up as they went along?
As an Ex RAF jet pilot, i have to say your content gives me an amazing thrill and fun time while watching
Unrelated... I was out spotting last week at BFI and saw an Asiana 74 depart SEA with its gear fully extended and starting its bank over Puget Sound. Without thinking, under my breath I muttered, "Git yer gear up." I may have moved away from Texas but thanks to Kelsey I speak with an accent when discussing aviation 🤣
Hey Kelsey, just a quick reminder. The engines on this plane are tailmounted and very close to the longitudinal axis. So there wouldn´t be a very big angular momentum in any direction when using reverese. Still correct but just not as severe. Regards from a Business Aviation Pilot from Germany, really enjoying your videos.
Good point, good observation.
Only when using all three or just the middle one. The scenario, however, has the middle one and one other not working, so you're just using the one on the other wing. Now it's still less than on many other aircraft, but definitely asymmetrical. How bad that would be, I couldn't say.
@@KaiHenningsen all 3 engines are tail mounted. None of them is at the wing. Yes I got that only the Lefthand engine is still running and therefore will be using reverse if the others failed (different when they are on fire). Still you're right there will be a moment but not as severe as I said. All the planes I fly have tail mounted engines and I had to use reverse thrust on only one engine once. I'm flying a different type from the one in the video but in regards to physics it's comparable to mine. The effect ist very easy to counteract with just nose wheel steering.
@@Switch1k8 #2 engine on the 727 doesn’t have reverse.
@@321captain3 that is correct
For all the inaccuracies, you still gotta love that gorgeous miniature they've built, complete with interior lighting and all.
"All the paper has already flown out, including the two manuscripts written by the convicts that went into engines 2 and 3..." That had my howling with laughter.
"The pilots wouldn't be taxiing with the door open like that."
Now we need a Hollywood vs. Reality for "The Delta Force."
There is Lost Wing Alarm. It sounds a lot like pilots, crew, and passengers screaming.
Pilots will always stay calm and “fly the plane”, never scream, the worst thing ever is the is anyone a pilot call
comedic gold... laughed out loud
Your TH-cam clips are more entertaining than the Hollywood movie.
Gravity is a COnspiracy Theory, things only fall because they are heavier than air, gravity cannot be proven because it doesnt exit which makes it a Conspiracy theory!!! Very SImple!
@@seanthompson258 I'm just going to pretend your joking.😅
@@seanthompson258 And Elvis is not dead. I see him every time when I am visiting Las Vegas!
Great videos on this channel.
I guess pilots on their last day are like truckers. They both have that special 'going home' gear
When my husband and I go on a holiday by car, I always drive faster when we are going back home. Part of it is that I don't need so much navigation because I have not only 'going home' gear, but also 'going home' beacon. :D I'm happy to find out this is a natural occurence and not just me!
Horses have it too, when you turn them towards home!
@Aircastles101 I used to have a little mare that did ok until she realized you were heading home, then there was nothing you could do short of using a breaker bit, which I wouldn't do, to control her. She was heading home no matter what. The first time this happened she threw me and I had to walk home over a mile away. When I got there she was in her stable calmly eating her feed. LOL
@@olemansailor6519 barn sour.
What cracks me up the most is watching Kelsey trying to keep a straight face through most of these scenes. 😆
Dang, Kels! Taking all the fun out of plane crashes. That was hilarious.
10:09 “FFS Bob where is the Make the Plane Stop Screaming at Us Checklist?”
There was a case in the 70s were a dc-9 lost all engines in a hailstorm, ended up crash landing on a highway. Crashed into a car, killing all occupants, before crashing into a gas station, causing a huge explosion, destroying the plane.The irony was that there was an airport nearby, the pilots just didn’t have the charts for it.
Are we talking about that Southern Airways flight?
@@forgive_me_for_my_past yep
To be specific, at the time, they were being handled by Atlanta approach. They didn’t handle Cartersville, so wasn’t on their scope.
@@jaysmith1408 Ouch! Makes one appreciate all the more the controller in the Miracle on the Hudson not-a-crash who did manage to find and clear other landing spots! (Doubtless not the same circumstances as much closer to the airport of origin, granted.)
Kelsey I would say 95% of people that watch movies where there is airplanes ✈️ involved in an emergency situation don’t know the difference between reality and Hollywood including myself but watching your videos and listening to you , you really have your shit together about airplanes and how they work I really enjoy watching your videos..
"...you never see two pilots with their hands on the controls at the same time, even in an emergency situation." *flashback on the United Airlines flight 232 accident*
Sort of off topic but I was super excited to see Leon Lush covering Kelsey's bad TikTok advice video! I love Kelsey and I love Leon! I just got laid off from a job that I put my heart and soul into for years so I needed that! These guys make my heart smile. Thank you Kelsey!!!
23:20 A road sign tall enough to reach the windshield.
Lol, I thought the same thing 🤣🤣🤣
Where i live there are some really high ones
Probably in a flood zone, for the boats
About 40 percent of a cabin’s air gets filtered through the HEPA system; the remaining 60 percent is fresh and piped in from outside the plane. using bleed air from the engines. Cabin air is completely changed every three minutes, on average, while the aircraft is cruising,
Yeah the cabin air on a typical commercial aircraft is cleaner than the air in many hospitals. It just feels stale to people because of the lower pressure. Similar to why the food never really tastes good
It needs to be for one, planes are not spacecraft or submarines and have nowhere neither the O2 nor the scrubbers and regenerators needed to function as a sealed unit with such dense occupation. Humans process about 25% of the O2 out of around 7-8 litres of air per minute each and that is at sea level. A passenger plane would likely be a hypoxic deathtrap within a few hours at most without an external source of fresh Oxygen. Fortunately they have a plentiful supply of said gas outside that merely needs it's pressure adjusting upwards slightly a problem easily solved by a compressor.
@RogerWilco99 Yes indeed, this is actually what I meant when I said there was neither the O2 or the scrubbers on board. My point was that in no way shape or form is an aircraft equipped to be self sufficient in terms of maintaining it's atmosphere, it relies on controlled gas exchange with the biosphere regulated one outside for that.
I think what ACTUALLY happens during rapid decompression is actually much more visual than papers flying around. The spontaneous condensation of the moisture in the air.
@Author B.L. Alley see Kelsey's other videos.
dude, that was more like a space station decompression! i forgot how crazy that part is! LOL
See Cast Away.
We used to do pressurization checks on our KC-135 aircraft. We would do emergency depressurizations, and the entire aircraft interior would suddenly be covered in fog. Also extremely cold. Pretty cool unless your sinuses are blocked.
Think of all the damp, slimy paper! Not to mention the waste of cell phones and computers because there’s no uncooked rice available. Horrors!
“the engineer is flying the first officer”. Cracked me up!,
The paper flying around is a good way to tell the audience of how fast the air would be moving
Bruhhhhh he had me crying when he said “HOW IS THERE STILL PAPER FLYING AROUND” hahahahaha 25:45😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Thanks to 74 Crews videos, I will now take my first flying lessons this fall
Congrats! Hope it goes well
I wish you luck
I want to see you cover the classic 1970s ‘Airport’ movies. Need your thoughts on pilot Dean Martin chasing every skirt in sight 🤣
I've been Binge watching all those old airport classics, I'm sure Kelsey would agree with the skirt chasing. Notice in those old movies every actor had a cigarette and drink in the other hand, you could be crashing and the FA would bring another drink
@@jasoncentore1830 LOL!
Also in case Kelsey doesn't know his cultural history, both Airport '75 and Airport '77 feature a Boeing 747.
This needs to happen! "That's the nice thing about the 707. It can do everything but read." That's because there were no cons with manuscripts.
@@Big_Tex airport’79 used a Concorde. A big change.
I have now seen a couple dozen of your videos - The company you work for should commend you for your channel. Constantly talking about things that can go wrong, corrective actions that can be taken... ... You spend a great deal of your own time speaking about your job and your experiences and your knowledge, this more than likely contributes to your job performance. As an occasional passenger I appreciate your professionalism.
I can answer the paper everywhere thing, the reason you get that is for the audience to get a sense of the velocity and volume of air being blown around, adds to the drama.
this man is an Aviation GURU. He knows so much and explains things so thoroughly.
Kelsey, i want to be pilot like you you just making my day and learning some in a plane
I was today years old when I realized "conair" meant "convicts" 😅 I'll go back under my rock now.
I guess "the rock"
🤣🤣
If you would like to know more, TH-cam it, there really is a "ConAir" it's only for Federal Movements, interesting watch. Ohh as far as Hollywood goes, those convicts would not be able to have anything on them, including Paper
What did you think it meant? 😂😂😂
@@DOUBLEDEFENSE you never had that ahaa moment for something you never considered important enough to actually think about why it's called that way but when you got it you were amazed that you learned something new ? 😂
That engine at the end failing was clearly the APU. (Lol. Just kidding, the directors would never have thought of that.) I also love how flammable the tail was, and how the telephone poles managed to rip the wing off NOT where the impacts were occurring, but where the wing joins the fuselage.
Kelsey, I would be very interested to hear you review the “Gimli Glider”; both the made-for-tv movie & the actual incident itself.
Very interesting channel!
I prefer the "Air Crash Investigation" documentary episode about that.
He did one on the real incident. It was boss piloting. Good critique. Not the movie yet. I didn't know they made one. I'd like to see that myself.
Kelsey: „… you‘ll never taxi with the door open…”
DHL Boeing 757: “hold my beer”
To be fair, the door was closed during taxi but opened mid air.
If flying with an open door is simply common practice for them, at least that would explain where all the packages go.
Gravity is a COnspiracy Theory, things only fall because they are heavier than air, gravity cannot be proven because it doesnt exit which makes it a Conspiracy theory!!! Very SImple!
@@seanthompson258 How can something have weight, if there is no gravity? ;-)
But yes, using the wrong terms (what you meant to use is probably "dense") makes you a bad conspiracy theorist but it's almost enough for sarcasm.
@@P.Paramo Flat earthers don't believe gravity exists. So, doesn't need to be sarcasm.
Notice how Kelsey laughs when he says he’s never done something. I am an elevator mechanic and I know what that laugh means!
Care to Elaborate?
Like as in "I have but can't tell you that or my boss will get mad"
@@haydenlummus8838 elevator mechanics have to periodically test the safety systems. Dropping a loaded elevator from the top floor has to be a fun day :)
@@ZiggyTheHamster Ah, thanks. Have a nice day
Me too mate!!!🙏🤣🛫
@@haydenlummus8838 Exactly!!!🙏👍🛫
Sparrow: So, we are at safe altitude, we have one engine working, and we are full of convicts. We should ask for closest airport and warn them that they need police on...
Annoying crow: ROAD THERE IS A ROAD!
"How are there still papers flying around the cabin of this aircraft" 😂😂😂 I love these HvR series!
Obviously the prisoners were working on script re-writes.
Lets see if I can explain this: All those papers you see flying out of those windows would be the actor's crib notes for when they forget their lines. They all must have dreadful memories considering the amount of paper there is. All those sirens at the end of the crash landing sequence would have be the GPWS telling them that they have no ground left to crash on and that engine shutting would have had to have had to have been the APU shutting down. APUs don't run very well under water, you see :P
3 channels I love and trust, captain Kelsey, captain joe, mentour pilot.
All 3 channels are awesome. Very educational as I am currently building a RC place :)
"Life is just not working out for me" - 😄
Hey, could you make a video about the russian plane that crashed because the pilot let his son control it and he disabled the autopilot (Aeroflot Flight 593)
There is recordings available, as well as the data of altitude, pitch and speed.
When was the plane too late to save? Could they have saved it when it was already diving?
I second this fine suggestion.
Third
I fourth this suggestion
I fifth this
@@lpstylez Does that mean you haveto keep quiet?
I swear if I watch any more of these, I'll be soon able to be a pilot impostor and noone's thinking I'm sus.
How can Kelsey be so wholesome, and teach us so much at the same time?
Oh for god sakes, Kelsey, stop saying you are not a smart person :D You definitely are!
It annoys me also about "i am not a smart person....". The hell you aren't!
That flight engineer was an anazing navigator. Falling from the sky, flying the first officer.. He pulled out his sextant and located them on the chart ... Giddy up!
A sextant? Never heard of that. Is it something like Jeff Bezos spaceship?
@@mike30534 obsolete nighttime navigation tool since the 1970s for planes. You can determine your latitude by looking at the stars. If your navigation instruments are down in an area where radar can’t cover you such as oceans you can break out a sextant and determine your location that way.
That’s what the tiny windows above the main cockpit windows of a 707, 727, and older 737s are for
@@michaelho4014 it's a naval navigation device too. In the days of square-rig sailing ships that is.
I love these videos! Hollywood always has sudden decompression events lasting for minutes at a time. I don’t know where all that air is coming from that it’s continually blowing out the hole like a hurricane. I guess it’s coming from directly behind TLJ’s character in the little fenced in area?
someone is breaking wind furiously
@@moonl1314 Furiously!
Thank's again for my favourite series of yours! 😃👍 I have another suggestion for a "Hollywood vs. Reality". Do you know the TV-show "Lost"? Well, in season 5, episode 9, a Boeing 737 did an emergency landing on a short airstrip on an jungle-island and in season 6, episode 18 the same 737 took off from it again ... but there's a lot of Hollywood in it! 😁
In conclusion, the pilot would be able to land at the nearest airport, the police would circle to the plane to grab everybody and the movie would end after just a few minutes after starting? That's not Hollywood! They have to make millions no matter what!... Great work, Kelsey! Keep going! I really love your work.
I laughed through this entire video, especially the indignity over the paper!
Kelsey: "I'm not sure which engine that is."
Plane: "Ah-ha! Secret engine number four!"
I didn't think they started the APU ... but they probably SHOULD have!
The... APU? Maybe they cut the scene where they started it because it was boring (just flicking a switch) and it would be too correct (it would turn the whole damn thing into a documentary)
I thought the 727 didn´t have a APU... but that turned out to be wrong. Actually the opposite is true, its the first aircraft with a modern APU
but like the right wing is in place, so in theory there is fuel left, so it should just continue running
@@chrisschack9716 the 727 apu only works on the ground
"Unless all the cons also have paperwork that they're having in their hands..."
They could be playing Dungeons and Dragons to pass the time. I know I always have a ton of loose leaf paper about me, regardless if I'm a DM or a Player. (More so if I'm a DM.)
Now I'm wondering if anyone has ever investigated whether playing paper and pencil rpgs has helped convicts...either as rehabilitation or to improve mood or conduct.
Convicts are generally allowed very little in terms of personal effects, so it would probably have to be a very rules-light gaming system.
Gravity is a COnspiracy Theory, things only fall because they are heavier than air, gravity cannot be proven because it doesnt exit which makes it a Conspiracy theory!!! Very SImple!
@@AC-ih7jc i too am curious about that. i worked for a small rpg company and we would offer discounted material for the holidays. i was surprised how many shipments went to correctional facilities.
@@estibon3872 Wow! That's really interesting. I have no first-hand (or second-hand, for that matter) experience with the corrections system, but I've been told that boredom is a major part of life for the incarcerated. RPGs (ones that don't require much gear) sound like a helpful outlet in siuations where there's an abundance of frustration + time.
May I ask which rpg company it was that you worked for?
@@AC-ih7jc palladium books. not bad, a little clunky in the combat system.
I really need a shirt with Kelsey saying "that's not how it works" on it. 😎👌
And of course, it wouldn't be complete without a pic of Kelsey's "that's not how it works" face from his video reactions
@@lovelandtales527 and a "coming up" t-shirt .. with bars on the sleeves.
@@notme2day OMG! Yes!!! 🙀
I always wondered about the paper myself. I think it's a visual reference for the air being sucked out ☺️
In my aviation safety class, we got an interesting piece of research: you can tell how experienced a pilot is by the last words they say before a crash.
If it's the F-word, they're an inexperienced pilot.
If it's the word that means the same as "crap" (the one bleeped out here,) they have experience.
The theory was that F-word tends to be uttered in moments of "panic", whereas "crap-but-worse" tends to be when a bad thing is "expected". Experienced pilots tend to be able to see that bad thing is coming sooner - and while of course they do everything they can to prevent it from being worse, their utterance at the end tends to be one of resignation, not one of surprise.
From personal experience.. the last words are “Oh sh--.
The Living Daylights has a great scene with two planes at the end, which has lots of details. Really love to see that one picked apart.
Especially the damage from the taxi accident. ;)
Timothy Dalton is so underappreciated as Bond. I wish he could have made a few more movies
I just flew a plane for the first time, thank you Kelsey you convinced my uneducated ass that I can have a career doing something I really love
Good for you! Learning to fly was one of best things I have done in life! Enjoy every moment.
@@sgd5k292 I had a smile from ear to ear the whole time
@@tutudanny Awesome! You will do well.
Go you!! ✈️
This is my favorite series from you
I love the way that Kelsey just looks generally confused while watching the clips.
The looks are gold.
*serious studious face*
*WUT*
*trying not to laugh too much*
*mugging it up for the preview image*
:)
At the AF447 accident, the dual input of both pilots was part of the reasons the airplane crashed, as both inputs canceled each other. One pilot was pushing down, the other one was still
pulling up.
Kelsey, good vid. Re: descending quickly, a comparison to the drop on a rollercoaster would be interesting.
Every time you mention the paper flying around I bust out laughing, it's so funny cuz I never thought about it even though I've seen this movie like a thousand times! Kelsey you're the best!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤎🤎🤎👍👍👍
It is a lot like on Star Trek. When they are in battle, the consoles the crew is at explode (I think they are powered by explodium) and it never fails, rocks come flying out.
The diligent flight attendants would have replaced all those paper napkins for the pre arrival service. So there is paper available again!
20:33 I just want to tell you both, good luck. We’re all counting on you. 😂😂😂
And don't call me Shirley....
I've seen that movie half a dozen times at least and never realized about the engine one being ripped off and then hearing an engine spool down. Love these types of videos
oh god, since the first mention of papers, i had to constantly pause so can laugh in tear, then scroll back and watch again
14:58 It's a 727. The hydraulic system is a bit odd by modern standards. But the important detail Engines 1 & 2 have pumps. Since they have #1, they're good. Also, no "C" system.
Good thing you've talked about the dual input issue. IRL, it caused one of the worst plane crash of the last decade (AF 447)
Had to google it. Sad, stupid, panicked. Capt. Sullenburger is a consulting expert in the documentary.
19:33 - actually, there have been some cases where there’s legit reason for both pilots having hands on controls - I recall some episodes of “Mayday” / “Air Crash Investigation” where, in an emergency on a plane with old cable-style controls, some control surface became so difficult to control that both pilots had to work the controls at once.
But yeah, it’s rare - more often than not, having both pilots on the controls at once is going to _cause_ a crash, not prevent one. (See e.g. Air France 447.)
A key point about those flights where it has worked out was missing here though. In those cases you clearly hear the pilot flying calling the shots for what they want the other pilot to input so they are working together. You don't really see the CRM that would be necessary to make it work in the scenes here.
I actually got to scuba dive that exact "airplane". It's currently submerged at Marmet Springs in Illinois as a scuba attraction. We made the trip there as part of my Master Diver class.
Hey Kelsey, I really enjoy your videos! I do prefer your debrief videos of real events more than your Hollywood vs reality videos, but they are all fun.
Once again I ended up laughing like a drain at the end because as soon as I saw the paper falling through the air I knew what comment was coming…but didn’t expect the comedy spin. Keep up the good work! 😊
I've never seen this movie, but this is one of my favorite Hollywood v. Reality vids you've ever done. Some really funny stuff in here!!! 😂😍
It gives him a lot of material to work with, and boy does he use it! :D
That may be the APU which they've switched on accidentally which is rolling back at last😂😂
I was gonna suggest it was the little "windmill" thingie they can deploy to run a generator in the event where they lose all engines. . . ;)
that's what I thought as well, no idea how loud it would be though
@@wallyman292 That's called the ram air turbine, and it is not an engine, so you wouldn't hear it rolling back
@@aarondynamics1311 I know it's not an engine. That was me attempting humor! ;) Thanks!
@@benedictul It doesn't make any noise. I was just joking around! ;)
'comin up'..... i love you man. love your work.
been feeling rough the last few weeks. You've done a lot to keep me comfy, familiar, feeling safe, and distracted.
Much love brother. Keep it up
I especially like the flames coming out of the rudder, didn't know they had a fueltank in there too 🤣
He could have land that plane on a runway with that one engine rather than ditching on a road, Hollywood never gets old.
I thought "conair" was a play on "air con". No idea why haha.
haha. Air Conditioning. LOL
What? I thought Conair made hair dryers and such. Lol
Love the way the convicts never got there air masks on even after several minutes, lol!
Were they able to, especially if they wore handcuffs?
Love your videos.
8:06 From experience, I can tell you that it's very difficult to do something like putting on an oxygen mask when you're shackled. The immobility is very real when chained up like that.
I always enjoy your breakdowns, and I'm glad most people don't know what it's like to fly on con air. :)
Great comparison. Well done!!
The paper flying is where all my homeworks eaten by my dog end up
"there is no alarm for ripped wing coming off" well now I think there should be one!
Yes, there should be a caution and warning indicator: “You are about to die”
@@mikus4242 at least a bright bright light .. you know .. warning you that there's nothing you could do with what's about to happen.
@@mikus4242 That's what 'whoop whoop pull up!' is for.
What about an alarm for "you are running out of road"? ;)
Maybe, the sound at the end was the APU being amplified by adrenaline or something.
Love this'n. It is interesting that the broken engines were still providing the winding down sound...even while under water. I wonder whether Kelsey will ever do one of those crazy WWII air war movies like 12 O'clock High. I realize military flying is not commercial, but I betcha he know someone who could fill in the gaps, and it would be EPIC!
On second thought, Kelsey could just focus on the John Wayne films like "Flying Leathernecks" or "Jet Pilot", but he'd have to start a whole new thread.
I don't know how I previously missed this episode of Hollywood Versus Reality, but I totally agree with all the comments below about Kelsey's great sense of humour and exposition of the craziness of this particular movie. I am ALMOST tempted to go find it and watch it! But it can't be as funny as the scenes I have just watched as explained by Kelsey - you are a star!