Actually, you could say that Yumeko's whole 'fade into an outline and move' thing could be her manipulating space and/or time. That and her swords materializing out of thin air, maybe she stops time and throws them so they all launch at once...
if she manipulates space it would be a cool counterpoint to Sakuya. Although, as Sakuya's time manipulation allows her to mess with space (with less facility than time), probably Yumeko's space manipulation could low-key mess with time too.
I think, or i called her: Sakuya version 1, da best "Sakuya", and Sakuya from Eosd is what Zun create based on this, not copied, if they said so, then Orange is Hong Meiling, Mai is Cirno, Rikako is Patchouli,....
Akita Shiroinu With blonde hair? Don't think so. Besides, first time playing this game, I just swear I thought she was Marisa. After all, it was a Stage 4.
This song is almost a little sad to me; it gives off an air of instability and suffering (hence the title, "Doll of Misery"), either Yumeko's sole purpose was to inflict suffering on others or perhaps she herself is suffering. Or both.
Sakuya: I can stop time in order to throw any number of knives in an instant. And when I say "any number of knives", I mean that I can compress timelines in order to literally manifest _any_ number of additional knives should I need them. Yumeko: Oh really? **sips tea** Sounds kinda mid to be held back by possibility like that. My abilities run on dream logic.
well, spellcard rules didn't exist back in the PC-98 days. yumeko didn't give a fuck about a fair fight, she just needed to dispatch the enemy in front of her
*[Makai Maid]* YUMEKO Yumeko (夢子) is Shinki's maid who can be found in Makai's Pandæmonium. After the heroine reaches Shinki during the events of Mystic Square, Yumeko interrupts and insists that Shinki allows her to handle the intruder herself. Although polite towards her mistress Shinki, Yumeko regards the heroine with disdain. Once she is defeated, Shinki tells the heroine that Yumeko was among the strongest of her subjects. (from TouhouWiki) ZUN's comment about the track: "This was a tough one. It has the most complex chord progressions I've ever done. I think this is the first song I worked all day to finish. I wanted to make this song pretty dark, so this is how it came out. I like this song a lot, so I hope you'll listen to it."
The origin of ZUN’s favorite chord progression! This chord progression is used in Shanghai Alice of Meiji 17, The Great Fantastic Underground Railway Network, and a few other songs I can’t name off the top of my head. Edit: Boys and Girls of the Age of Science is another example.
Hey, it’s seems à very interesting fact, could you please give me the exact time code please ? This will be easier to see, I mean easier to listen what you’re currently saying.
Actually, Yumeko most likely summons all her blades from her powerful magic granted to her by Shinki. It's probably what she uses to fire her blades at such high speeds, as well as being able to phase out of her physical form temporarily. This would make Yumeko able to summon and fire a huge amount of blades and fire them at insane speeds, while also being able to teleport or phase out at will. I would say that Yumeko is incredibly powerful, but timestop is still a hax level power. Hard to say.
Yes they can(maybe) but sakuya don't have nuclear powers,and in a danmakou battle sge can' t stop the time for a too long period thanks to the spellcard rules
Hmmm~ Tbh, I like both Sakuya & Yumeko pretty much equally. Although I guess if I had to choose, I'd pick Sakuya, only b/c I like her themes more (The Maid & the Pocket Watch of Blood, and Lunar Dial Sakuya/Yumeko though.-
Yay~ Even though nowadays, I'm starting to like Yumeko more (especially since I'm starting to like Doll of Misery more, as well as I'm playing Mystic Square more often), they're still pretty even for me. Mugetsu is still the best, though :')
I believe while looking in the Music Room of this game that this was the hardest chord progression ZUN created (at that time obviously) and I gotta say he did a great job at it, especially the beginning part of this song that appears again during the middle-end of the song with his awesome addition of more drum beats.
Pretty edgy, but fitting name. Creepy beginning. Good and dainty-sounding, like the theme of a malicious queen from 1700s England, but foreboding at the same time.
@@roberthasudungan1546 gg u are too serious.but yeah.i think shinki is much stronger and cooler than remilia (shinki's wing is so beautiful and im not a lolicon ,ok?:))
ZUN definitely based this off of Malice Mizer's "Je te veux". It came out in March 1998, 9 months before Mystic Square's release. No wonder this song's title is visual kei-esque.
Yo, a vkei and a touhou fan here? Nice And also, yeah, people don't realize the amount of influence that vkei (or J metal as a whole, really) has over japanese game OSTs Heck, one of guilty gear's most iconic songs, holy orders, is obviously based on a moi dix mois song, and that's just one example.
Not sure about that after the spellcard rules apply, or even cease to exist, Touhou characters in general are uberpowered girls on LSD without spell limiters
As powerful as both windows and PC98 are, I'm going to go out on a limb and say that PC98 have some seriously overpowered beings. And one of them is an 18 year old girl with red hair who can give Mima hell. Would ALL PC98 demolish them? I think not but a definitely majority would (e.g. Shinki, Sariel, Gengetsu.) I can't judge since I haven't been with Touhou in a long time, only now coming back in! :D
*_Jae Kaiki Strattera_* _闍 怪奇 ストラテラ_ ¤ Demon ☆ Conjuring blades The highest-ranking profile resident of Makai-Heart who got promoted to guard of Shinki and Pandæmonium, awarding her the title of _Kaiki._
A lot of things about this song make me think that ZUN composed it in the middle of composing Lotus Land Story's OST. Along with thoughts, I also have a very strong feeling that the same is true. What do you good folks think?
Sakuya who manipulates time vs Yumeko who can use swords instead of knifes and be able to “Dash-Teleport” that has immunity effect! That would be the greatest ever!
@@ajmolhussain541 Well… yes she controls space… maybe! There’s not much information of her ability but rather we know that she throw swords and transform her body in space…… wait…!
Yumeko was the first maid character that Zun made and Sakuya is inspired by yumeko, the difference is in the color of the costume. Sakuya uses knives while yumeko uses swords
Throw a sword, throw a sword, regret iiit, laaaaaterrrrr.... throw a, sword, throw another, up and down, right and left: they fly everywhere, throw a sword! Edit: swords :)
![[Touhou 5] Doll's Story ~ Doll of Misery (Remastered)](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/8-CiEsVKJ6U/mqdefault.jpg)
![[Touhou 5] Doll's Story ~ Doll of Misery (Remastered)](/img/tr.png)
When you realize how underrated the older Touhou OSTs are. Dang son.
When you realize that there's a commentary like this on every song
Not to blame you for saying so. Pretty sure i said it
@@poledra4153 You need to fix like this:
When you realize that there's a commentary like this on every "Touhou PC-98" song
And it's absolutely right.
Actually, you could say that Yumeko's whole 'fade into an outline and move' thing could be her manipulating space and/or time.
That and her swords materializing out of thin air, maybe she stops time and throws them so they all launch at once...
@@kerokero_furogu W E D O N ' T E V E N K N O W (⊙°⊙ )
That is fate ref. UNLIMITED BLADE WORKS!!!
@@kienphucnguyen2001 Fate is inspired by this character (1998) or Sakuya (2002) because it was out before fate stay night (2004)
Maybe they're only part of her danmaku as others bullets but with the form of a sword
if she manipulates space it would be a cool counterpoint to Sakuya. Although, as Sakuya's time manipulation allows her to mess with space (with less facility than time), probably Yumeko's space manipulation could low-key mess with time too.
First time my friends who are new to Touhou saw Yumeko, they claimed "SHE COPIED SAKUYA!" ;w;
I think, or i called her: Sakuya version 1, da best "Sakuya", and Sakuya from Eosd is what Zun create based on this, not copied, if they said so, then Orange is Hong Meiling, Mai is Cirno, Rikako is Patchouli,....
Execute them.
Cazisto Vanquist
And Yuki and Marisa are sisters.. huwat
Mekakushi Actors Yuki looks more like Renko though..
Akita Shiroinu
With blonde hair? Don't think so. Besides, first time playing this game, I just swear I thought she was Marisa. After all, it was a Stage 4.
The coolest character in my opinion. What MAID in the universe throws straight up SWORDS?? Love Yumeko and Shinki.
Stage theme: the last 'Judgement'
Boss theme: doll's story 'Doll' of Misery
I wonder if a certain character in this game got a title idea later on.
Alice did.
@@insanity9292 r/woooosh
@@charles8740 he is literally following up with the joke......... use the r/whoooosh correctly dumbass
@@charles8740 Janakshskwkwmaix, wat?
@@charles8740 use it correctly
All comments are comparing her to Sakuya... Why can't she just be her own character? :c
Agreed! Just because she is a knife maid doesn’t mean she’s Sakuya!
@@fluffy_cheese7478 Actually yumeko uses swords not knife
@@songoku9566 That’s Cooler Than a couple of knives
Because EoSD is cancer
@@helioknight9570 Being contrarian for the sake of being contrarian is cancer
PC-98 and Windows are both good.
This song is almost a little sad to me; it gives off an air of instability and suffering (hence the title, "Doll of Misery"), either Yumeko's sole purpose was to inflict suffering on others or perhaps she herself is suffering. Or both.
nah, it's because Yumeko is the reason you don't make it to shinki, or if you do make it shinki you won't have enough resources for devil's recitation
Idk what u guys talkin about
@@readthiscommentdoustyar683 play touhou you'll get it
@@gypsysprite4824 especially if you accidentally kill mai 💀
U use knifes.
I use fucking
...
SWORDS!!
+Niiiiiiiiiiko Niiiiiiiiiiice ciryes reference
all hail wed god
Shinmyoumaru : I'm a tall midget who also uses... SWORDS !
(hence her third and fourth spells)
Niiiiiiiiiiko Ciryes FTW!
What about Mugetsu ?
the original ninja maid! and she does not need time control to do all her attack paterns.
She just can't be damaged while she moves
@@Buer1969 Yep! That’s her “Dashing-Immunity” or maybe “Dash-Teleport”!
Yumeko was a bladed weapon throwing maid four years before Sakuya maid it cool
maid coolest
MAID
pun intended?
@@MaimaiKuroshiro duh ovbiously
🚪👈
The door is right there, sir.
The fact that Yumeko can throw swords much faster than Sakuya throwing knives is incredible
Sakuya: I can stop time in order to throw any number of knives in an instant. And when I say "any number of knives", I mean that I can compress timelines in order to literally manifest _any_ number of additional knives should I need them.
Yumeko: Oh really? **sips tea** Sounds kinda mid to be held back by possibility like that. My abilities run on dream logic.
well, spellcard rules didn't exist back in the PC-98 days. yumeko didn't give a fuck about a fair fight, she just needed to dispatch the enemy in front of her
More impressively, Yumeko doesn't have any quirky abilities. Just pure crackhead determination of a Yokai and a bunch of Swords
To Sakuya, she only have ONE disadvantage, Sakuya controls time
And Yumeko can turn completely intangible. Face it: the possible battle would be epic without doubt.
Sakuya might lose in my opinion.
Sakuya has knives...
But Yumeko has SWORDS!
+Cirno The 9 try that with infinity sword.
(Overlong)Pen is mightier than (Throwing short)Sword
No, It's just that Sakuya can move faster than The Flash and Sonic the Hedgehog put together.
*[Makai Maid]*
YUMEKO
Yumeko (夢子) is Shinki's maid who can be found in Makai's Pandæmonium. After the heroine reaches Shinki during the events of Mystic Square, Yumeko interrupts and insists that Shinki allows her to handle the intruder herself. Although polite towards her mistress Shinki, Yumeko regards the heroine with disdain. Once she is defeated, Shinki tells the heroine that Yumeko was among the strongest of her subjects. (from TouhouWiki)
ZUN's comment about the track:
"This was a tough one. It has the most complex chord progressions I've ever done.
I think this is the first song I worked all day to finish.
I wanted to make this song pretty dark, so this is how it came out.
I like this song a lot, so I hope you'll listen to it."
Sakuya = knives, Patek Philippe ref. 865, playing cards, tea
Yumeko = EPIC FLAMING SWORDS
The origin of ZUN’s favorite chord progression! This chord progression is used in Shanghai Alice of Meiji 17, The Great Fantastic Underground Railway Network, and a few other songs I can’t name off the top of my head.
Edit: Boys and Girls of the Age of Science is another example.
Hey, it’s seems à very interesting fact, could you please give me the exact time code please ? This will be easier to see, I mean easier to listen what you’re currently saying.
@@aaathoms the chord progression starts at 0:12
Actually, Yumeko most likely summons all her blades from her powerful magic granted to her by Shinki. It's probably what she uses to fire her blades at such high speeds, as well as being able to phase out of her physical form temporarily.
This would make Yumeko able to summon and fire a huge amount of blades and fire them at insane speeds, while also being able to teleport or phase out at will. I would say that Yumeko is incredibly powerful, but timestop is still a hax level power. Hard to say.
I love how zun recicled such a similar idea for 3 games straight and barely anyone noticed
Why do I find this theme to be calm and (a little) relaxing, but awesome at the same time?
Sakuya named "Killer Doll" after this character .-.
Wow, good find! It makes too much sense.
You use knives..
I use fucking..
SWORDS.
Illusion World:The World isn' t powerful enough to kill yumeko
giuseppe pepe
Nuclear attacks can though.
Yes they can(maybe) but sakuya don't have nuclear powers,and in a danmakou battle sge can' t stop the time for a too long period thanks to the spellcard rules
giuseppe pepe
Utsuho Reiuji does though.
First, i sayd that sakuya can' t kill yumeko ,not Utsuho
Second,Utsuho Reiuji it's not very smart or fast,so in abattle yumeko can beat utsuho
Sakuya and Yumeko should go bowling together .-.
@@dbmd9915 Either Star Wars but with maids and blades, or they had fun as they are planning to work for each other's mistress-
Hey Sakuya it's yumeko, let's go bowling
They should go bass fishing together.
@@combativeThinker now that’s more like it
Yumeko to Mima " I will cleanse you of all your sins..."
Mima" Another difficult one I see"
The cursed weapon Sakuya has in DDC is apparently a sword. So she's throwing swords.
It's only a matter of time....
I LOVE THIS THEME, THANK YOU TPDP (Touhou Puppet Dance Performance)
+RPG go the arranges from that game are awesome!!
***** yes! hmm but i cant remember in which part appeared
***** ah dangit, i dont have that one yet
***** i know, it also has sumireko
***** its actually sumireko xd
Throws knives and shoots lazers in no particular pattern
Yumeko: Omae wa mo shindeiru
Reimu: NANI!??!
she and Sakuya gotta bond over being stage 5 bossing blade maids...
I love this theme, I'm in love with the opening, is so creepy
I love the intro and way at 0:12 it become brighter. I would like if the intro was longer just to make the change more powerful
Hmmm~
Tbh, I like both Sakuya & Yumeko pretty much equally. Although I guess if I had to choose, I'd pick Sakuya, only b/c I like her themes more (The Maid & the Pocket Watch of Blood, and Lunar Dial Sakuya/Yumeko though.-
Yay~
Even though nowadays, I'm starting to like Yumeko more (especially since I'm starting to like Doll of Misery more, as well as I'm playing Mystic Square more often), they're still pretty even for me.
Mugetsu is still the best, though :')
She also kind of looks like Konpaku.
I like The Maid & the Pocket Watch of Blood too much so it goes to Sakuya here
>Still isn't playable
>Still forgotten*
@@Buer1969 damn u and sixt6 but truths
@Aumima Mimadino wo nice , bro . good luck . call me if it's done
This song is just creepy in the beginning xD
But that's my favorite part... XD
Time-traveling Nekomata xD
Time-traveling Nekomata My favourite part is 0:47
It reminds me of Mario everytime for some reason.
@@touhouyamax2755 Reminds me of Lavender Town from Pokémon
It makes me think of Castlevania (it probably just sounds like most of NES games).
I'm gonna have to play the PC-98 games sometime.
Awww...
She looks so cute...
°π°
Listen to 'Crazy backup dancers' from Hidden star in four seasons, then listen to the start of this...
Oh damn
Yumeko "You use knife?"
Sakuya "Ye-s"
Yumeko "I use Swords..."
Mmm Those Pc-98 beats, they send chills down my spine.
That opening creeps me, why all "doll" musics are scary?
Because dolls are devil's masterpiece! G.G (Dolls creep me)
Ye and Alice's "doll" is creepy, the doll in reality look devil too (maybe because i'm a boy)
I dunno, it sounds cool to me. At least the music progression does.
Stuck on my head, and honestly i don't mind it it's a nice song
I love this theme! Touhou PC-98 is really good and underrated.
Best and strong maid
Image she would go full emiya like...
“I am the bone of my sword , so as i pray...
UNLIMITED BLADE WORKS!!!”
Unlimited Maid Works
She makes me think of Sakuya and Youmu together. Because maid with swords.
On an unrelated note, I believe that Sakuya and Yumeko could be related.
The first Blade Maid before Sakuya.
I believe while looking in the Music Room of this game that this was the hardest chord progression ZUN created (at that time obviously) and I gotta say he did a great job at it, especially the beginning part of this song that appears again during the middle-end of the song with his awesome addition of more drum beats.
I prefer this song than the Sakuya's song. I don't know why.
Everybody comparing Yumeko and Sakuya...
we all know that Ruukoto > Yumeko and Sakuya.
Ruins what about mugetsu?
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@@lorimercadante2915 mugetsu isnt a maid tho she just randomly cosplays like one (idk why dont ask me)
@@somejamaicanguy v i v i t - 1 9
"You use knives, I use... (OOF)ING... SWORDS!!!"
*_-Yumeko, Sakuya Fukcs With Tiem_*
Ciryes
@Volidex so true (2 years later)
Sakuya before the universe reset
Oh my god, this song gives me chills
Ahora me interese a los temas musicales de Touhou, gracias por subirlo.
Pc98 music hits different, this song especially
"I am the bone of my sword"
Pads
...
Oh right, wrong maid...
Yumeko boob are bigger than sakuya 🗿
Yumeko boob are bigger than sakuya 🗿
Pretty edgy, but fitting name. Creepy beginning. Good and dainty-sounding, like the theme of a malicious queen from 1700s England, but foreboding at the same time.
Okay, we need to get both of them in a room and settle this problem once and for all.
"Lady Shinki you dont need to waste your time speaking with someone like THAT"
Next on Death Battle: Sakuya vs. Yumeko! XD
This has such a wierd beginning, it almost sounds a little discordant
This song brings back unpleasant memories...
A thousand damns, Yumeko...
AMAZINGLY unpopular opinion:
I like yumeko more than sakuya.
I respect you
@@Void_Cosmic731 Obrigado
Também gosto mais dela
Qual seu tema preferido da Era Pc-98?
@@Void_Cosmic731Respondendo BEEEEEM tarde, mas é Strawberry Crisis
Sara=Meling
Witches=Patchy
That strange girl who wants go to the human world=Rumia
Alice=Cirno
shinki=Remillia
I'm sure Alice is herself. ^^
Comparing a brat like Remilia to legitimate god like Shinki is damn insulting.
@@roberthasudungan1546 gg u are too serious.but yeah.i think shinki is much stronger and cooler than remilia (shinki's wing is so beautiful and im not a lolicon ,ok?:))
PC-98 songs hit harder after joining the Pokémon Fandom for some reason
wow. much Ciryes. such meme. very sword. wow
ZUN definitely based this off of Malice Mizer's "Je te veux". It came out in March 1998, 9 months before Mystic Square's release. No wonder this song's title is visual kei-esque.
Yo, a vkei and a touhou fan here? Nice
And also, yeah, people don't realize the amount of influence that vkei (or J metal as a whole, really) has over japanese game OSTs
Heck, one of guilty gear's most iconic songs, holy orders, is obviously based on a moi dix mois song, and that's just one example.
@@toro2812nice
Lol I looked it up and yep it sound very similar.
Some should make a "Death Battle" only for Touhou characters....
All Pc-98 characters would demolish windows era characters.
Not sure about that after the spellcard rules apply, or even cease to exist, Touhou characters in general are uberpowered girls on LSD without spell limiters
As powerful as both windows and PC98 are, I'm going to go out on a limb and say that PC98 have some seriously overpowered beings. And one of them is an 18 year old girl with red hair who can give Mima hell. Would ALL PC98 demolish them? I think not but a definitely majority would (e.g. Shinki, Sariel, Gengetsu.) I can't judge since I haven't been with Touhou in a long time, only now coming back in! :D
This haves to be the best theme for me!
*_Jae Kaiki Strattera_* _闍 怪奇 ストラテラ_
¤ Demon
☆ Conjuring blades
The highest-ranking profile resident of Makai-Heart who got promoted to guard of Shinki and Pandæmonium, awarding her the title of _Kaiki._
A lot of things about this song make me think that ZUN composed it in the middle of composing Lotus Land Story's OST. Along with thoughts, I also have a very strong feeling that the same is true. What do you good folks think?
Yumeko raised Sakuya greatly
I like the dissonance in the beginning
Imagine Yumeko with Time powers..
Yea...as if she already broken enough.
Best maid
*Old Sakuya has returned*
Sakuya who manipulates time vs Yumeko who can use swords instead of knifes and be able to “Dash-Teleport” that has immunity effect! That would be the greatest ever!
@@ajmolhussain541 Well… yes she controls space… maybe! There’s not much information of her ability but rather we know that she throw swords and transform her body in space…… wait…!
@@ajmolhussain541 Its it possible that she may have that power due to... well the "invicibility" dash?!
When you hear this during a Lunatic run, you know that Yumeko is gonna throw knifes in your face really hard
First we get Orange for almost being Meiling, now Yumeko for being literally Sakuya. Who's next from Windows to have a reference on PC-98?
Marisa feels kinda simular to Marisa
Stage 5 my ass be getting kicked *HARD MANN!*
I knew you would come.
SUFFERSUFFER SUFFER SUFFER SUFFERSUFFERSUFFER ME SUFFERING BECAUSE OF OOIDC
Do i know anything about this character
No
Do i absolutely love her theme and design
Definitely
anyone from OoIDC (Obelisk of Impossible Difficulty Chart)
I have no idea what I should be thinking. Then again, I don't usually think.
The sword throwing maid btw
"You use knifes... I use f*cking...SWORDS!"
Yumeko was the first maid character that Zun made and Sakuya is inspired by yumeko, the difference is in the color of the costume. Sakuya uses knives while yumeko uses swords
Ruukoto
Ruukoto and Mugetsu: Lol, K
ruukoto:???? im nonexistent
Ruukoto and mugetsu: so we are that underrated?
THIS ARE LARGE SIZED DAGGERS IT CAN KILL YOU WITH SINGLE HIT!!
Even in more recent Touhou, you can see those kinda references. Minamitsu Murasa, for example...hmm...a sailor, eh? Does that sound familiar...?
I love her ost ❤️
@FlandresOldWorld I'd say throwing swords is far more impressive... and without timehax, too.
Unlimited Blade Works is everywhere !
She's not holding a Knife like Sakuya,
She is holding a SWORD,so can y'all stop comparing her as sakuya ☠️
Still a bladed weapon and a badass maid, what do you mean?
When it started, I instantly liked it. XD
Doll of Misery!! Dilly Dilly!
Dear Makai... will these comparisons to the Scarlet Devil Mansion ever stop.
Okay she throws swords instead of knives like Sakuya. But Yumeko was created by Shinki, unlike Sakuya. So this is the difference.
Yumeko: At least i don't wear PADS!
Sakuya : At Least I can control time to stop it on you.
Yumeko: No matter how much time passes, those cardboards ain't gonna grow any larger.
Sakuya : I'm as badass as Young Xehanort.
Bravi'M Yumeko: I guess all that muscle went from your breast to your brains?
Anonymous Monkey
Sakuya : Breast have muscles ?
Throw a sword, throw a sword, regret iiit, laaaaaterrrrr.... throw a, sword, throw another, up and down, right and left: they fly everywhere, throw a sword!
Edit: swords :)
Basically skukuy but she uses swords.
Ah, so Sakuya is P2 Yumeko then.
When Yumeko stabs Sakuya with a sword
This maid is the best