I like the topic and most of it Abhijit was there. Thank you for bringing him. Can you please explain why you need donations? Look at you wearing a wireless BOSE headphone worth $349 and asking about donation for what? I must donate if you have really needed.
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Pappu reflecte problem: authority without responsibility, proven low IQ and stellar stupidity, arrogance, smugness, unfamiliarity with their work, an on-again-off again interest in their work and a corrupt and immoral personality
@@alokraj3128 Such a troll and waste on the internet are you. You should have debated the point with him and go onto conclusion then but instead you behaved like you are in a authority to put him behind bars.
Central Government should use the Genius minds of Abhijit, Sanjay Dixit, J Sai Deepak and like minded and patriotic persons in making policy for the development and betterment of our beloved Bharat.
Dear Sanjay.Dixit, I am 70 years so can speak from experience, AND observation of IAS from within my own family. Never, since Independence, I repeat NEVER has the Indian public felt the Bureaucrats were trustworthy. My parents during the 50s and 60s had unpleasant memories of high handed, uncivil, arrogant, entitled Civil servants, who believed paying a "royal" visit to a locality was "working for its betterment"; these cretins also had terribly itchy palms. And this despite my father being a very affluent land owner. Perhaps for this reason my father was totally against my joining the Services ; "Saarey chor hote hain" he said. Within the family, uncles, cousins whoever did join such services were actual proof of rampant thievery in the Civil or any other govt services. They accumulated wealth at an astonishing pace, and lived like "angrez" while the rest of India was struggling hard. How do you conclude the IAS were presumed trustworthy during the 80s. Beats me.
A simple question Why do most people want to clear UPSC? Simple Government job hai safe hai aaram milega or paisa guaranteed hai.? How many have actually thought of serving nation? 1 out of 20
"Serve the nation" waale military me jaate hain zyadatar. UPSC waale chase power, prestige, government benefits like aukaat se mehenga bungalow and retirement ke baad pension. Their attitude towards general public itself reflects how arrogant they are.
@Diva p the thing is if every bureaucrat or 90% of them decide they will not tolerate this shit, they can easily make the politicians sniff rug. But these people are themselves addicted to promotions and getting higher instead of being down to earth.
Based on little experience I have with Ambassadors in Central America , I can say that they work to enrich themselves to ensure that they retire millionaire. Period. No intrest in facilitating Indian Disporas, no interest in promoting Indian Products and nation interests. My daughter, at Stanford Uni , went to India for certain information about floods and rains. On coming back her simple remark was that she has see Indian bureaucracy at its best.
@@plant_leaf Corruption. Corruption is a default for bureaucratic posts. If someone isn't involved in corruption, there is a high chance they will never be given positions of responsibility, and will be transferred off to some remote villages.
Listening to Sanjay Sir & Abhijit ji takes you to a high level of thinking and discussion & then you don't want to listen anyone who is not upto that mark and then people of daily life bore us.
To improve Indian Bureaucracy, a left over of British, designed to extract equal opportunity for all britishers, rents not for development, we need some of the followings 1) Should be evaulated, held responsible for their work. 2) No life time job security. 3) No time based promotion. It should be performance based. 4) Posting location should be randomly assigned. 5) Passing UPSC exam ( that need major reform not based on Trivia like quiz) is the first step. 6) After the exam they should be put in training program for their choice of area. After training they should be subject to intensive exam brfore final selection. 7) Jobs should be, for a limited period, like short service commission. After commission, they should be evaluated, trained and subject to examination again to find out about their awareness of new development. 7) I think all govt. jobs should be opened to people who have performed community social service (posts are assigned randomly across the nation )or military training for two years at least. 8) Many ideas proposed by Abhijit
About job security some people run vendetta against someone who do not lick their shoes. I am sorry but I am not very optimistic about bureaucracy in India. Bramhdeva has to do some thing it’s not in human hands. No matter how good talks you held they would not be buzzed
I agree with Abhijit in having different wings for investigation and maintenance of L & O. Even SC has directed states to do this in a PIL filed by Mr Prakash Singh and states avoided to implement it using many excuses.
Abhijit has made sweeping statements about promotion system in Army, Navy and Airforce. I was in Military Secretary Branch 3 years plus. The system in Army is absolutely fair up to the Rank of Colonel. No 99 percent of professonally competent, upright n honest officers will get promoted, who had no Mai Baap in fauj. However, some incompetent officers do get thru.. At higher ranks military politics kiks in ..Of Arms n Regiment.. Army has delivered results in every situation except 1962...I served with Australian Army for one year, indian Army young officers are professionally much more competent than NATO country officers.. Was in South Africa as Security Advisor..We can discuss this issue of how Army trains n tests it officer career at every rank..
@@nabyendu16 It does...Few odd incidents may have happened..But in general men well taken care of.. Otherwise u would have many mutinies... Remember Mangal Pandey or men would have killed their JCOs or officers...Tell him how many cases u know fratricide..I m infantry officer who have lead men in Sri Lanka, Siachen..
@@ranviryadav2528 ur knowledge confined to your area of specialization and limited to ur man... I'm a Ex Sergeant of IAF with doctorate in mgt, and a victim of ultra vire policies. review, revision, redrafting of ARMY NAVY IAF ACT IS REQUIRED OTHER THAN MANY REFORMS. U CAN DISCUSS WITH ME IN DETAIL. JAI HIND.
UPSC aspirants defend the bureaucracy more feverishly than any sitting babu ever can. Shows why the system can never improve. The people who are supposed to hear such discussions and bring about change are more interested in proving that clearing UPSC is harder than winning nobel prize.
Babugiri is so ingrained in our blood that managers in IT or other private companies work like a government officer . Corruption and nepotism is the culture.The only difference is that managers in pvt lt are accountable for profits
Dixit Sir, four questions. 1. Does IAS lobby exist? and is it good for Nation?.2. Why IAS officers are very Batch Conscious.3. And why Direct IAS mistreats Promotee IAS officers.4. Is IAS LOBBY DEEP STATE or ESTABLISHMENT of India?
Good discussion on the problems facing Indian bureaucracy. Solutions have been long known and also the fact that bureaucrats will never reform on their own. Only a strong govt with clear ideas can do it, some people hoped Modi govt will atleast start the process but no visible signs of it till now. Has this govt been blindsided by the top bureaucracy?
See..we definitely see flashes of brilliance in Abhijit. But we cannot take everything that Abhijit says on face value but we have to be selective in our picks and use it to fine tune the bureaucratic system.
Over the last 70 years not only the Indian bureaucracy but the entire govt machinery 'at all levels' has transformed itself from 'lack of intent' to a 'lack of ability'. While successfully holding on the the hangover being a step above the lesser non sarkari mortals.
SD is bang on when he speaks about only those who work are charged. Besides, if any one works efficiently and quickly, the presumption is that he must have acted due to some ulterior motive. One area that needs reform is how to tackle the litigations that dog any development project. The question of public good against private rights.
Treat to watch such a wonderful discussion ! My two takeaways are poor urban planning /designing and judicial inconsistency . If possible please conduct a future discussion covering these two topic !
@@Abhi-gx4lj agreed....but definitely a great quality....but as soon as the result comes out, there doesn't seem to be a willingness to work hard anymore
I don't agree 🙄 same thing we can say for medical Pg exams, masters in engineering etc. And we shall not forget that it's van exam for general public. #fakeToughnessUPSC
Sanjayji has made a very good comment about Selection of Civil Servants which should take inspiration from defence forces Officers Selection process.The best could be 65 percent weightage for written test and 35 percent weightage for Personality test like Personal Interview,group discussion,group tasks and psychological tests. IAS,IPS and IFS need different type of approach and mindset and aptitudes.So, separate tests can be conducted separately for i)IAS and all other central Services ii)IPS iii)IFS(foreign service).The Indian Forest service exam is already separate and is attracting talent who are interested in that field.
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Question also is so we need brilliant people to be diplomats except for in certain roles? I think the selection process is cockeyed... Waste of time and resources...
I have come out more confused. Specific solutions on recruitment, placement and evaluations are there. Eg can we recruit specialists on 5 to 10 years tenure ?
One of most talented Senior IRS, GST, Officer DPN could not make it through CBIC to become Member because He has been not selected by 360 degree Analyser panels. HE IS THE MOST Deserving Officer for the post of Member. An officer junior to Him made it through because He/She has Political Blessings from BJP/RSS. The "MOST TALENTED" officer is allegedly considered as PRO-CONGRESS, which is utmost Propaganda. Even I dont like Bureaucracy, but Have OPINION THAT TALENT AND BRILLIANCE should shine.
What brings about success? The civil service would be called successful if the objectives and goals are met substantially. Multi varied analysis has revealed about 18 factors that facilitate success. Of the list, two need special mention- IQ, and conscientiousness. IQ is cognitive ability. I am sure all must have experienced what i write next sometime- in school or college , you have few students who understand and grasp any problem in the first 15 or 20 seconds, and there are some who cannot comprehend that how so ever hard they try. This is cruel, but is nature. Conscientiousness is commitment and desire to do things in a time bound manner.
The amount of changes you have suggested, especially, the accountability bit, will take another 50 years to come about unless there is democratic dictatorship.
@@0003081978 Yes..The system is as fair as human run system can be Specially up to the rank of Col...Brig n beyond MoD interference comes in and some cases Military Politics if Regiment n Arms or Services kiks in some cases..
@@0003081978 Yes..The system is as fair as human run system can be Specially up to the rank of Col...Brig n beyond MoD interference comes in and some cases Military Politics if Regiment n Arms or Services kiks in some cases.. It is better than any other Govt run organization.. It is better than Even Private sector or Corporate world
Bureaucracy is a reflection of our country ... low on specialisation, low on morality, (those who are moral are risk averse) and high on unnecessary pride. Sadly this wont improve much in our lifetimes.
Since the independence almost all bureaucrats are left leaning. Even you can't clear upsc if you write real Indology. Interview panel is too highly biased. Now we have public discussion of muslims being appeased in exam.
Use the narratives that are academically acceptable, such as by RC Majumdar, Jadunath Sirkar, and Sitaram Goel, but be careful to also give the other point of view.
Sir help kare mai ek trainee hu apni job chor ke training kr rha hu training me 70 k lag gye hai aur lack down lag gya online training chal rhi hai 3month se online hi training hoti hai but ab jo part hai training ka usme class ka lagna important hai and lockdown batate hi ja rhe hai mera frustration level high hota ja rha hai sir bhi bahut Zoot bolte hai age 27 ho chali hai kam se kam week me 2 days class lagna zaruri hai coaching na open ho but training center to week 2 bar open help karo sir🙏
Mr Abhinav sir, yours headgears are good for you....but your voice to us..listeners.. so kon..kon..type echo..very difficult to discern.. Please correct it.. Thank you..
All these suggestions are important but the elephant in the room is the permanence of employment. if you can fire babus for corruption and a separate body outside the influence of babudom is set up to probe corruption cases it will bring fear of law back and lower their price in teh dowry market.
22 year will watch this video and go for preparation of CSE why because harsh reality is UPSC is the only way for you to uplift from society as well as to boost your ego..otherwise baki sab to naukri hai IAS hi bas THE NAUKRI hai
We got to overhaul our basic education, values to be honest, loyal and brave need to be planted during schooling years. If schools are training kids so that they can work and live in the West then thats what the creamy layer is going to become.
Sanjay Dixit suffers from intellectual arrogance. Though he charges Abhijit of being non specific, his talks are very vague and full of “ bullshit’, sounds good doesn’t mean anything.
Whatever has been handed down from the British colonial times have not been taken and 'owned' by the Indian government but just used. By this I mean that the ownership has not been there, not been taken up for a study of the system, and how well it has suited to our style of governance, but rather, we have taken upon ourselves to conform to British standards in as best as possible and continued to use it, much like serfs, without their presence.
Merit has to be recognized, and it takes a very well rounded person to identify talent. Pareto distribution , and more specifically, Price’s law that speaks of the square root formula , viz it is the square root of the number of the people in any productive activity that do 50% of the productive work. Another factor is the reverse discrimination ( pls excuse my using such words- reservation is sacrosanct and cannot be mentioned) that has brought down the competence level of the civil service. Another factor is security factor. Once you join the civil service, you need not study or update your skills needed for the job at the hand. This ensures utter lack of accountability- that is doing the job that meets the success yardstick that must be set up. And that too in a time bound manner.
Outside opinion - babus RETIRE the day they BECOME babus. Thence it's all about their rights and their power and their ego and NEVER about responsibilities and purpose. Most of them don't WORK ever in their tenure (in terms of serving people and delivering results); but they are busybodies and they are stressed out - because they involve themselves in all sorts of palace intrigues. And to fair to them - they work under a corrupt decrepit colonial structure and sometimes all they want is a good enough posting so that their spouses and children could enjoy basic infrastructure needed to pursue their career or education. And the political class is happy with the status quo where babus are okay as long as they say Yes Sir.
Nope🙄 politicians come and go like wind in every 5 years but buerocrats stays till their service. And don't forget we choose politicians, we choose them we have the power. But it's not same for buerocracy.
direct entry into govt departments as officers should be disbanded.if he/she wants to serve the department & want to climb the hierarchy system he/she first have to serve that department as a general employee for atleast 3 years then he/she should be eligible for applying for higher ranks.
Sir what about so called " the politicians of our country are they having specialisation in any department and make video on politicians also and don't blame only on ias
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Sir prakhar srivastava sir ko bulaye please.
Why abhijit iyer mitra acted like a christian?
I like the topic and most of it Abhijit was there. Thank you for bringing him. Can you please explain why you need donations? Look at you wearing a wireless BOSE headphone worth $349 and asking about donation for what? I must donate if you have really needed.
Samarjit Dey Wireless Bose Headphones? - We wonder how were you able to point out the brand. And Yes, please look closely they are wired earphones. Contributions are voluntary, no one is forcing you sir.
ThePatriotic Indian When did that happen sir?
It’s very simple. Our bureaucracy wants all the authority but no responsibility. It’s true for all government servants.
Pappu reflecte problem: authority without responsibility, proven low IQ and stellar stupidity, arrogance, smugness, unfamiliarity with their work, an on-again-off again interest in their work and a corrupt and immoral personality
@@alokraj3128 Such a troll and waste on the internet are you.
You should have debated the point with him and go onto conclusion then but instead you behaved like you are in a authority to put him behind bars.
Central Government should use the Genius minds of Abhijit, Sanjay Dixit, J Sai Deepak and like minded and patriotic persons in making policy for the development and betterment of our beloved Bharat.
Are you idiot or what?
In India we don't appreciate Patriotic minds.
They are considered to be fascists & propaganda people.
@@pranavjha6960 no bro people who has more White man friends.
Dear Sanjay.Dixit, I am 70 years so can speak from experience, AND observation of IAS from within my own family.
Never, since Independence, I repeat NEVER has the Indian public felt the Bureaucrats were trustworthy. My parents during the 50s and 60s had unpleasant memories of high handed, uncivil, arrogant, entitled Civil servants, who believed paying a "royal" visit to a locality was "working for its betterment"; these cretins also had terribly itchy palms. And this despite my father being a very affluent land owner. Perhaps for this reason my father was totally against my joining the Services ; "Saarey chor hote hain" he said. Within the family, uncles, cousins whoever did join such services were actual proof of rampant thievery in the Civil or any other govt services. They accumulated wealth at an astonishing pace, and lived like "angrez" while the rest of India was struggling hard.
How do you conclude the IAS were presumed trustworthy during the 80s. Beats me.
ur comment is really interesting to read.
Hat's off to Sanjay sir for doing this debate you stay true to your words it shows how unbiased and professional you are respect to you.😘
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A simple question
Why do most people want to clear UPSC?
Simple
Government job hai safe hai aaram milega or paisa guaranteed hai.?
How many have actually thought of serving nation? 1 out of 20
"Serve the nation" waale military me jaate hain zyadatar. UPSC waale chase power, prestige, government benefits like aukaat se mehenga bungalow and retirement ke baad pension. Their attitude towards general public itself reflects how arrogant they are.
@@firstshadow2745 exactly. And this is what UPSC gives us. People high on poverty of others
@Diva p the thing is if every bureaucrat or 90% of them decide they will not tolerate this shit, they can easily make the politicians sniff rug. But these people are themselves addicted to promotions and getting higher instead of being down to earth.
@alpha blaze exactly. And this mafia is influencing even supreme Court and throwing kids into corona just for the new batch
Mom: Beta IAS banja, bahu paan crore waali mile gi.
Beta: Me first aaya to?
Mom: pandrah crore le ke aayegi.
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Based on little experience I have with Ambassadors in Central America , I can say that they work to enrich themselves to ensure that they retire millionaire. Period. No intrest in facilitating Indian Disporas, no interest in promoting Indian Products and nation interests.
My daughter, at Stanford Uni , went to India for certain information about floods and rains. On coming back her simple remark was that she has see Indian bureaucracy at its best.
How do they become millionaires ?
@@plant_leaf Corruption. Corruption is a default for bureaucratic posts. If someone isn't involved in corruption, there is a high chance they will never be given positions of responsibility, and will be transferred off to some remote villages.
Listening to Sanjay Sir & Abhijit ji takes you to a high level of thinking and discussion & then you don't want to listen anyone who is not upto that mark and then people of daily life bore us.
100% agreed. I listen to abhinav prakash, aim etc only now a days.
@@plant_leaf i
To improve Indian Bureaucracy, a left over of British, designed to extract equal opportunity for all britishers, rents not for development, we need some of the followings
1) Should be evaulated, held responsible for their work.
2) No life time job security.
3) No time based promotion. It should be performance based.
4) Posting location should be randomly assigned.
5) Passing UPSC exam ( that need major reform not based on Trivia like quiz) is the first step.
6) After the exam they should be put in training program for their choice of area. After training they should be subject to intensive exam brfore final selection.
7) Jobs should be, for a limited period, like short service commission. After commission, they should be evaluated, trained and subject to examination again to find out about their awareness of new development.
7) I think all govt. jobs should be opened to people who have performed community social service (posts are assigned randomly across the nation )or military training for two years at least.
8) Many ideas proposed by Abhijit
About job security some people run vendetta against someone who do not lick their shoes. I am sorry but I am not very optimistic about bureaucracy in India. Bramhdeva has to do some thing it’s not in human hands. No matter how good talks you held they would not be buzzed
If you think upsc exam is a trivia like quiz, that is enough for anybody to understand you don't know squat about it.
I agree with Abhijit in having different wings for investigation and maintenance of L & O. Even SC has directed states to do this in a PIL filed by Mr Prakash Singh and states avoided to implement it using many excuses.
Abhijit has made sweeping statements about promotion system in Army, Navy and Airforce.
I was in Military Secretary Branch 3 years plus. The system in Army is absolutely fair up to the Rank of Colonel. No 99 percent of professonally competent, upright n honest officers will get promoted, who had no Mai Baap in fauj. However, some incompetent officers do get thru..
At higher ranks military politics kiks in ..Of Arms n Regiment..
Army has delivered results in every situation except 1962...I served with Australian Army for one year, indian Army young officers are professionally much more competent than NATO country officers..
Was in South Africa as Security Advisor..We can discuss this issue of how Army trains n tests it officer career at every rank..
Would love to hear u out
@@ajinkyadeshmukh8591 where r u from
But army don't give equal & fair opportunity to the other rank soldiers the jawans.
@@nabyendu16 It does...Few odd incidents may have happened..But in general men well taken care of.. Otherwise u would have many mutinies... Remember Mangal Pandey or men would have killed their JCOs or officers...Tell him how many cases u know fratricide..I m infantry officer who have lead men in Sri Lanka, Siachen..
@@ranviryadav2528 ur knowledge confined to your area of specialization and limited to ur man... I'm a Ex Sergeant of IAF with doctorate in mgt, and a victim of ultra vire policies. review, revision, redrafting of ARMY NAVY IAF ACT IS REQUIRED OTHER THAN MANY REFORMS. U CAN DISCUSS WITH ME IN DETAIL. JAI HIND.
Scrap all these services and have a revolving door policy of co-opting persons from all walks of life.
Or may be just accept people in the lowest post and then let them work their ass off for top posts.
@@gdpit Really good suggestion.
Abhijit ayyar mitra rock's always 🔥🔥🔥👊🔥👍
UPSC aspirants defend the bureaucracy more feverishly than any sitting babu ever can. Shows why the system can never improve. The people who are supposed to hear such discussions and bring about change are more interested in proving that clearing UPSC is harder than winning nobel prize.
They defend because they want to be there not to serve but to be treated like gods
@alpha blaze exactly. So basically they are monkeys. We should actually call babus Chimps because they just know greedy ways of life like an animal
@@TheAshutosh58 Please don't insult animals and chimps. They have far more integrity than babus
Absolutely right. JAY ARYAVRAT 🙏 🙏. JAGO HINDU JAGO.
Babugiri is so ingrained in our blood that managers in IT or other private companies work like a government officer . Corruption and nepotism is the culture.The only difference is that managers in pvt lt are accountable for profits
Bureaucracy should not be keep unquestionable. Every aspect of their bureaucratic life should be in public domain.
I wonder what abhijit iyer-mitra IQ is. 200?250?
Prasad J he is tam bhram group with highest iq in the world
And Bengali bhramin
And has CRITICAL THINKING
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Prasad J , anything above 160 I believe is at incandescent level. I am sure his IQ may be in the mid 160’s.
IQ has nothing to do with making pungent rhetorics.
Anyway IQ is related to your psychometric skills and has nothing to do with mud slinging.
Abhijit is a very sharp person. He speaks at a different level compared to SD.
Fan of Abhijit Aiyar Mitra and Anand Ranganathan Sir
The selection process is ridiculous... It leads us to history grad leading the RBI... Geographers in defense Department... Mota mota it's bakwaas
SD feels threatened by the presence of a very sharp, but at the same time blunt Abhijit. That explains the unwarranted barb at Abhijit.
Thanks for introducing me to Ahijit Iyer
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Dixit Sir, four questions. 1. Does IAS lobby exist? and is it good for Nation?.2. Why IAS officers are very Batch Conscious.3. And why Direct IAS mistreats Promotee IAS officers.4. Is IAS LOBBY DEEP STATE or ESTABLISHMENT of India?
It's a curated myth. Out there, it's every man for himself.
@@dixitsanjay2005 ok , thanks sir
Lack of incentives for brilliance! I think Abhijit summed it up aptly
How about replacing bureaucracy with technocracy
Good discussion on the problems facing Indian bureaucracy. Solutions have been long known and also the fact that bureaucrats will never reform on their own. Only a strong govt with clear ideas can do it, some people hoped Modi govt will atleast start the process but no visible signs of it till now. Has this govt been blindsided by the top bureaucracy?
Impressed by your discussion
Very informative & reformative debate.
See..we definitely see flashes of brilliance in Abhijit. But we cannot take everything that Abhijit says on face value but we have to be selective in our picks and use it to fine tune the bureaucratic system.
More like discussions should be organised ...
Over the last 70 years not only the Indian bureaucracy but the entire govt machinery 'at all levels' has transformed itself from 'lack of intent' to a 'lack of ability'.
While successfully holding on the the hangover being a step above the lesser non sarkari mortals.
Mitra is so smart and articulate
SD is bang on when he speaks about only those who work are charged. Besides, if any one works efficiently and quickly, the presumption is that he must have acted due to some ulterior motive. One area that needs reform is how to tackle the litigations that dog any development project. The question of public good against private rights.
Treat to watch such a wonderful discussion ! My two takeaways are poor urban planning /designing and judicial inconsistency . If possible please conduct a future discussion covering these two topic !
@46:00 yes to sacking kota for speacial class
One of the best discussions on the topic. Kudos !!
I support your channel and thoughts Bharat mata ki jai jai jai hindutva vande matram
Something seems off regarding indian bureaucrats....the Civil services exam is tough, only the brightest clear the exam...why do they just give up?
Not the brightest but definitely the hardworking..
@@Abhi-gx4lj agreed....but definitely a great quality....but as soon as the result comes out, there doesn't seem to be a willingness to work hard anymore
Its because reality is different than ratta
@@TheAshutosh58 😂😂😂😂
I don't agree 🙄 same thing we can say for medical Pg exams, masters in engineering etc. And we shall not forget that it's van exam for general public.
#fakeToughnessUPSC
Sanjayji has made a very good comment about Selection of Civil Servants which should take inspiration from defence forces Officers Selection process.The best could be 65 percent weightage for written test and 35 percent weightage for Personality test like Personal Interview,group discussion,group tasks and psychological tests.
IAS,IPS and IFS need different type of approach and mindset and aptitudes.So, separate tests can be conducted separately for i)IAS and all other central Services ii)IPS iii)IFS(foreign service).The Indian Forest service exam is already separate and is attracting talent who are interested in that field.
The whole IAS system is rotten. Better to have a meritocracy
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Sir prakhar srivastava sir ko bulaye please.
You will never understand bureaucracies until you understand that for Beurocrats procedure is everything and outcomes are Nothing.
discuss educational reforms required with abhijit iyer
Important topic to discuss
Sanjay Dixit sir is brilliant he must have been a really good student 😇
Do we need a university of bureaucracy languages to evolve a minimum standard?
Yup need micro level training but it is to difficult to invest these much as we look our bad economy.
Only when bureaucrats will take up running a country like running a company is when we can see change.
The problem is not with the selection of bureaucrats but with execution of their jobs!!
Question also is so we need brilliant people to be diplomats except for in certain roles? I think the selection process is cockeyed... Waste of time and resources...
I have come out more confused. Specific solutions on recruitment, placement and evaluations are there. Eg can we recruit specialists on 5 to 10 years tenure ?
One of most talented Senior IRS, GST, Officer DPN could not make it through CBIC to become Member because He has been not selected by 360 degree Analyser panels. HE IS THE MOST Deserving Officer for the post of Member. An officer junior to Him made it through because He/She has Political Blessings from BJP/RSS. The "MOST TALENTED" officer is allegedly considered as PRO-CONGRESS, which is utmost Propaganda. Even I dont like Bureaucracy, but Have OPINION THAT TALENT AND BRILLIANCE should shine.
What brings about success? The civil service would be called successful if the objectives and goals are met substantially. Multi varied analysis has revealed about 18 factors that facilitate success. Of the list, two need special mention- IQ, and conscientiousness. IQ is cognitive ability. I am sure all must have experienced what i write next sometime- in school or college , you have few students who understand and grasp any problem in the first 15 or 20 seconds, and there are some who cannot comprehend that how so ever hard they try. This is cruel, but is nature. Conscientiousness is commitment and desire to do things in a time bound manner.
Awesome 👌
The amount of changes you have suggested, especially, the accountability bit, will take another 50 years to come about unless there is democratic dictatorship.
Army has proper QR based Placement policy.. also training policy.
Really after the discussion still you are sure
@@0003081978 Yes..The system is as fair as human run system can be
Specially up to the rank of Col...Brig n beyond MoD interference comes in and some cases Military Politics if Regiment n Arms or Services kiks in some cases..
@@0003081978 Yes..The system is as fair as human run system can be
Specially up to the rank of Col...Brig n beyond MoD interference comes in and some cases Military Politics if Regiment n Arms or Services kiks in some cases..
It is better than any other Govt run organization..
It is better than Even Private sector or Corporate world
46:50 Q&A Session
Eye opener
Bureaucracy is a reflection of our country ... low on specialisation, low on morality, (those who are moral are risk averse) and high on unnecessary pride. Sadly this wont improve much in our lifetimes.
They aren’t high on pride
13:15 Who is he talking about?
What can you say about Ashok khemka who has been treated equally badly by UPA and NDA
Plz bring a editor because your consent is good but thumbnails are horrible
It's content
If you have a lawyer friend , you donot need to befriend the police. Old saying.
Since the independence almost all bureaucrats are left leaning. Even you can't clear upsc if you write real Indology. Interview panel is too highly biased. Now we have public discussion of muslims being appeased in exam.
True. That's exact reason I am not preparing for ias.. Because I won't be able to tolerate that bullshit.
To Dixit sir, can we use historical narratives defined by you in upsc exam?
Use the narratives that are academically acceptable, such as by RC Majumdar, Jadunath Sirkar, and Sitaram Goel, but be careful to also give the other point of view.
@@dixitsanjay2005 thank you very much sir,
Sir help kare mai ek trainee hu apni job chor ke training kr rha hu training me 70 k lag gye hai aur lack down lag gya online training chal rhi hai 3month se online hi training hoti hai but ab jo part hai training ka usme class ka lagna important hai and lockdown batate hi ja rhe hai mera frustration level high hota ja rha hai sir bhi bahut Zoot bolte hai age 27 ho chali hai kam se kam week me 2 days class lagna zaruri hai coaching na open ho but training center to week 2 bar open help karo sir🙏
Mr Abhinav sir, yours headgears are good for you....but your voice to us..listeners.. so kon..kon..type echo..very difficult to discern.. Please correct it.. Thank you..
All these suggestions are important but the elephant in the room is the permanence of employment. if you can fire babus for corruption and a separate body outside the influence of babudom is set up to probe corruption cases it will bring fear of law back and lower their price in teh dowry market.
Namaste
Sir I made a contribution of 200 can u pls. Tell me where should I post questions and when is the next live?
Privacy protections are not strong , to say the least , funny , how many politicians do we actually have with proper technical know-how?
22 year will watch this video and go for preparation of CSE why because harsh reality is UPSC is the only way for you to uplift from society as well as to boost your ego..otherwise baki sab to naukri hai IAS hi bas THE NAUKRI hai
Go for private sector
Keep itnup sir
The kirana shop doesn't feed of tax and bribe. He suffers the consequences himself by lost customers and reputation not bureaucracy.
We got to overhaul our basic education, values to be honest, loyal and brave need to be planted during schooling years. If schools are training kids so that they can work and live in the West then thats what the creamy layer is going to become.
Now UPSC jihad
Sanjay Dixit suffers from intellectual arrogance. Though he charges Abhijit of being non specific, his talks are very vague and full of “ bullshit’, sounds good doesn’t mean anything.
Whatever has been handed down from the British colonial times have not been taken and 'owned' by the Indian government but just used. By this I mean that the ownership has not been there, not been taken up for a study of the system, and how well it has suited to our style of governance, but rather, we have taken upon ourselves to conform to British standards in as best as possible and continued to use it, much like serfs, without their presence.
Sir please have debate on indian beuracracy with tareke fateh ji🙏🙏🙏
Merit has to be recognized, and it takes a very well rounded person to identify talent. Pareto distribution , and more specifically, Price’s law that speaks of the square root formula , viz it is the square root of the number of the people in any productive activity that do 50% of the productive work. Another factor is the reverse discrimination ( pls excuse my using such words- reservation is sacrosanct and cannot be mentioned) that has brought down the competence level of the civil service. Another factor is security factor. Once you join the civil service, you need not study or update your skills needed for the job at the hand. This ensures utter lack of accountability- that is doing the job that meets the success yardstick that must be set up. And that too in a time bound manner.
Bad audio quality of host
Outside opinion - babus RETIRE the day they BECOME babus. Thence it's all about their rights and their power and their ego and NEVER about responsibilities and purpose. Most of them don't WORK ever in their tenure (in terms of serving people and delivering results); but they are busybodies and they are stressed out - because they involve themselves in all sorts of palace intrigues. And to fair to them - they work under a corrupt decrepit colonial structure and sometimes all they want is a good enough posting so that their spouses and children could enjoy basic infrastructure needed to pursue their career or education. And the political class is happy with the status quo where babus are okay as long as they say Yes Sir.
Up bihar se cadre bharoge to aesa hi hoga
Sanjay Dixit 60 + hai Kya ?
Yes recently retire hue hai
He just retired on 31 July 2020 from Government service.
Why blame ONLY BUROCRACY . MINISTER ALSO RESPOSNIBAL
Nope🙄 politicians come and go like wind in every 5 years but buerocrats stays till their service. And don't forget we choose politicians, we choose them we have the power. But it's not same for buerocracy.
direct entry into govt departments as officers should be disbanded.if he/she wants to serve the department & want to climb the hierarchy system he/she first have to serve that department as a general employee for atleast 3 years then he/she should be eligible for applying for higher ranks.
Funny Paused at 1:16:32 --> When some intellectual asks a question.
SD is a disappointment. All he speaks of his personal experiences, the lack of interest , or shall i say, utter disappointment of AIM is palpable.
So sad. Abhijeet worms his way here
1:23
Done
Hindi mein iski dubbing hogi kya samaj mein nahi aa raha kya bol rahe hein.
Abhijit is no specialist anyway
Comments on this video shows indians care not for golden content.
Sir what about so called " the politicians of our country are they having specialisation in any department and make video on politicians also and don't blame only on ias
Don't try to divert remain on topic
Politicians and bureaucrats always shit flinging and cross blaming each other about policy disasters but never addressing the topic.
Classic.
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