At the end of the day, they are both our favourite streamers. we grew up with them. don't make harsh decisions because of some drama. they are both grown up men and this is just a game, they will deal with it behind the close door (i hope). p.s. Thank you all for supporting a beginner clipper like me, I'm new to the 'game' and it's a bit dark down here 🕳️
Summit is so wrong on this one its insane... Soda could just tell the guy to delete his character because of the cheating. But he gave him few more options and Zeroji decided he doesnt deserve to have the character for what he did so he killed him. Zeroji had all the rights to kill him by the rules Soda said.
Oh did he? That's not what soda literally said in the clip. He said homie didn't have a choice and did not make that decision. So which is it... was he forced or did he do it because he believed it was the right thing to do? Also how is summit wrong here? He made his position very clear.. if the set in stone rule is a gkick or character death... fine. But they went through several options and then decide he has to be in the arena... okay sure, let the story play out... let's see what happens... oh never mind we are going to script it and make the final decision... Change the scenario and see if it still sounds correct. Judge sentences a man to death, death penalty and that process is started... judge then decides he personally doesn't like the way the story is playing out... so he forces the highest combat rated law enforcement agent in the country to walk into the guys cell and end him. No chance for the prisoner to fight back, just straight executed... is that right? Does your opinion change if the law enforcement agent made the decision to do that himself?... nope. Completely wrong on all accounts. If an immediate execution was the original decision, that's fine. But to put it up to chance and then seeing it's not going the way you hoped and then pulling out a gun and straight executing him... thats bs. The entire point of the arena is that people could band together with him and save him... or band together and kill him... they chose to save him, so soda decides to kill him? 😂 that's stupid. Saying "he was never walking out of that arena"... then what was the point of the arena at all? Just content... when punishments weren't suppose to be about that at all.
@@OrdinarySense The point of the arena was to make content out of it... He was never meant to survive it, but when the rogue helped him and gave him a chance. So they decided to execute him. End of story. Only summit was for some reason thinking its not execution but a fair fight...
@ThePianistONE if the outcome was predetermined, then there would not have been anything to say in the troll chat. If it was 100% he was going to die, the outlook would not have changed after someone chose to protect him. It was obviously for content, but there is no "content" if his death is certain. Content could only be created by the small chance he could live. Yes the odds would be heavily stacked against him... but to say most believed there was 0 chance and the outcome was predetermined... simply not true. Summit believed that there was a small chance that if a perfect storm came together that the guy would have a tiny sliver of hope to save his invested time. That for better or worse it was all left up to luck... not that the odds would shift in favor of the guy only to have spineless losers decide that they alone get to chose the outcome.
@@OrdinarySenseHis perfect storm would've been if a 60 decided to not jump in, that's how gurabashi arena works, anyone can go in at any level. Expecting a fair fight around his level was not a reasonable expectation, especially with over 50k people watching
at the end of the day, this was an execution with extra steps, and Zeroji ended up being the executioner. The whole point of this was that ANYBODY who felt like it could go in and kill Sequisha. He agreed to the punishment knowing his chances of survival were minimal. The original punishment was a gkick, Sequisha got out lucky.
Crazy, summit whining about hours lost, Sequisha lost those hours the moment he got caught cheating. Atleast we got a public exectution out of it. Summit is boring for onlyfangs content and should just leave tbh
Making it about content and then getting the sweatiest guy to do a "swift kill" is the most anti-content thing you can do. Not fun for anyone involved except zeroji. Very Iame
What Summit says isnt completely wrong, in the sense Sequisha didnt cheat at all and he was just being punished because his race was behind on points, then yeah you got a point. But he literally cheated on stream and he knew what he was doing. Soda gave Sequisha 2 options, to either get gkicked and he wont get back in again, and hes finished or he kills his character but he can stay in the guild. Then he decided to make content out of it and to make an example of it, he was never planned to live, even if he did make it past 15 minutes Soda was probably going to have him die another way, its an execution not a duel or challenge. It would've been more weird to have the cheater live and let go with slap on the wrist which would not be fair for other people in the guild so Summit bringing fairness in it was wild. Whats even more wild is that Soda asked Summit if he would rather have Soda kicked him from the guild and Summit even said no he didnt agree with that either, so at that point Summit was going based off his emotions and the fact he likes Sequisha. Sequisha took his own hours away after cheating, least he is still in the guild, he couldve easily been gkicked and that was done with.
The death punishment is still a compromise from the original rule, he should've kicked from the guild and the discord channel. Sequisha's stream content with wow would've been put to a halt for God knows how long. Sequisha is a veteran wow player, Summit just don't realize that Sequisha's cheating is lowering the guild's moral on the rules.
I think summit would've still been mad even if sequisha would've died fair and square, i mean he was against killing the character at all and instead proposed that he should just lose all his gold as punishment idk
Summit keeps talking about fail RP, but in the metric of WoW RP he's actually failing extremely bad by shit talking and bleeding IC into OOC. Not to mention arguing with decisions about what people want to do with their time while demanding they respect his hours. It's cringe beyond belief.
No, as an online influencer YOU CAN'T PUBLICLY DISLIKE YOUR TEAMMATE FOR SOMETHING THE OTHER WAS COERCED TO DO. What is wrong with you people for defending summit for this? This is below the basics... for real.
Not only did sequisha cheat in the most shady and dishonest way possible. He also conspired with a level 45 rogue to stealth in the arena and defend him from any attackers. It's literally an obstruction of justice. So how can summit call anyone sweaty when having a level 45 rogue stealth and kill any attackers is the most sweaty thing I've ever seen. Summit fully expected the dude to survive the arena because he was guarded by the rogue. He's just butt hurt because the 45 rogue couldn't stop a level 60 😂 amma' right?
Made since what? Also I think he's just flabbergasted by how the guy is being a dick behind the guise of an opinion. It'd be like if I called you a fucking moron for not using the word sense. It's unnecessary and rude.
@Kallut1337 i edited for the time, and I am correct. It's nog like I edited it after you made some gotcha comment. Go back to your mom's basement little child.
summit dont understand , the lvl 60 player was needed to step in and finish the job because sequisha would have shit on the casual players close to his level with game knowledge alone , players who didnt even do anything wrong would have had to relvl again and waste another 60 hrs for nothing
If I have this right, Summit is mad because he was under the assumption that Sequisha had a chance of survival and that it was taken fully away when the level 60 intervened. Summit wouldn’t have gone on a tangent if someone had killed Sequisha that was around the same level and not a level 60 because that’s a 0% chance of survival. Am I missing something cause if that’s true then I’m on Summit’s side.
Sequisha cheated, and not slightly cheated, but turned off all the adding to sell shit on the auction house which is inflated cause 90% of the sever is doing Ironman. They let him stay in the guild by basically having a ceremonial killing of him in the pvp pit. Summit is mad cause he was killed, simple as that. If summit wants to be mad at people he should also be mad at the higher level people defending sequisha. Going forward they should just enforce the rules they had set and should just gkick the person. But I can almost guarantee summit would get mad at that as well cause that is “fail rp”
He's coming off as an asshole and he's over talking because he knows he doesn't have any argument so he's preventing the other dude from being able to say anything. People only argue like that when they have poor position and if I was the dude on the left I would've long since said you need to stop interrupting me, especially if you're gonna ask me a question. I let you talk, so have that same respect
Soda is the one who escalated this by making a call to Summit and antagonizing him while other streamers were saying the same thing. He needs to look at himself. Not sure how no one sees that.
Well soda can do no wrong he’s a dick should be banned on retail about 5x over for shit he’s the poster child for toxic kids on wow he’s scrupled the community he’s a pretentious bitch who changes the rules as he sees fit to fit however him and his people need to fit
The hivemind is stupid on this one. Summit has a point and Soda is far too stubborn to understand or even listen to summit. I don’t have a personal preference for either. But summit is not wrong and is completely entitled to his opinion.
No summit is completely wrong on this one... Sequisha was sentenced to Gurubashi Arena to be killed by ANYONE and if he survives he can keep his character. He didnt survive... end of story. Other options were Gkick and character delete so he got out lucky it wasnt a Gkick.
Soda fanboуѕ being deIiberateIу obtuѕе IoI... It's not about the punishment. It's about pretending that it's for content and then you get the highest lvl player to end it fast, essentially removing the content part of it. It was entertaining until the high level came. No one said it's unjustified, Summit just said that it's Iame, which it truly is.
Brother it was for 15 minutes, 15 minutes was almost up, Zeroji goes in and kills him since his time was up in the arena. Bro was never getting to live, and the most wild part is Soda asked summit what he would rather do gkick sequisha? Summit wasnt even down to gkick him either nor kill off his character and said there are better ways of punishment like delete his gold. This whole thing was supposed to be an example to set for other people in the guild that wants to cheat and going forward its an instant gkick no content, it just so happen Sequisha was the first.
Summit's whole point is "dont take 60 hours from people" but is crying when a level 60 saves a bunch of lower levels from dying which was happening. He doesn't have to like it but stop complaining so loudly and move along.
I found it entertaining. You're seeing an example of a vocal minority take issue with something that was gonna already happen. No one is being obtuse, it's just goofy shit that's not worth being a dick to other people over. "The high level came in and killed the cheater" is not something to send hate towards someone for and if you can't see that I don't know what to tell you besides don't interact with other people until you've left elementary school.
I’m sorry but soda trying to circle back multiple times in this argument and summit shutting that shit down leading to soda turning full Karen mode is the cornyest shit I’ve seen in a long time. Well done sum sum, u stood on principles respect 😂
Summit is 100% right here idek what chance is talking ab he argues like a female. its so clear as day why its messed up but he doesnt want to admit that because that would make him wrong.
I wonder if Soda doesn't know how condescending he comes off in these conversations or if he just has terrible social skills because that is not how you talk to another grown man.
Let’s not act like summ1ts delivery is any better. You are also speaking to an og wow player. That’s arguing with literal aids. Soda definitely didn’t understand his argument. Peer pressure is t a good reason to do something. You can’t just commit a murder and go oh people were telling me to do it. But summit had terrible delivery too. He should’ve just said it was a trash scenario and moved on.
@@joebk44 not once did Summit start acting like a child towards soda he will simply giving his opinion and soda couldn't handle it did the usual buzzwords your this and your that bullshit
Brother what? He handled the situation so "well/calm" that most people were actually genuinely suprised by him but somehow somebody online obviously has a different "opinion" once again. Imagine any under 1k streamer would have talked this incoherent nonsense rant summit did, they would have been instantly raged at + punishment, atleast. You for sure are allowed to talk "condescending" to another grown man that is straight up ranting about nonsense and literally sending hate towards a smaller streamer, especially if you take the time to explain the situation to him "in person", yet this grown adult pothead refuses to understand the situation . "Ugh ugh, but, i can have my own opinion" Yeah you can, you shouldnt tho, because you are clearly dumb as rocks. Is what he should have said to summit.
@@joebk44nobody cares how long Soda has been playing WoW. He invited summit to play all the same and he stated in his initial rules that anyone who broke the rules would be gkicked and then he switches his rule last second to farm content and embarrass Sequisha even more. Just kick him and be done with it like you said you were gonna do
Not really they said they would not farm content off this shit then said nah we not gonna ban you just gotta survive 10 minutes here and you are good while having the only guy at 60 on server there to end it whenever knowing nobody could stop it summits Take is simply that wether or not he was pressured into doing it or not that it was a bitch move to jump in and end it when it could have had a natural end he is a big boy and chose to listen to people saying he should jump in I also agree I woulda said nah fuck that you Risk your hide for it
At the end of the day, they are both our favourite streamers. we grew up with them. don't make harsh decisions because of some drama. they are both grown up men and this is just a game, they will deal with it behind the close door (i hope).
p.s. Thank you all for supporting a beginner clipper like me, I'm new to the 'game' and it's a bit dark down here 🕳️
Summit is so wrong on this one its insane... Soda could just tell the guy to delete his character because of the cheating. But he gave him few more options and Zeroji decided he doesnt deserve to have the character for what he did so he killed him. Zeroji had all the rights to kill him by the rules Soda said.
Oh did he? That's not what soda literally said in the clip. He said homie didn't have a choice and did not make that decision. So which is it... was he forced or did he do it because he believed it was the right thing to do?
Also how is summit wrong here? He made his position very clear.. if the set in stone rule is a gkick or character death... fine. But they went through several options and then decide he has to be in the arena... okay sure, let the story play out... let's see what happens... oh never mind we are going to script it and make the final decision...
Change the scenario and see if it still sounds correct. Judge sentences a man to death, death penalty and that process is started... judge then decides he personally doesn't like the way the story is playing out... so he forces the highest combat rated law enforcement agent in the country to walk into the guys cell and end him. No chance for the prisoner to fight back, just straight executed... is that right? Does your opinion change if the law enforcement agent made the decision to do that himself?... nope.
Completely wrong on all accounts.
If an immediate execution was the original decision, that's fine. But to put it up to chance and then seeing it's not going the way you hoped and then pulling out a gun and straight executing him... thats bs.
The entire point of the arena is that people could band together with him and save him... or band together and kill him... they chose to save him, so soda decides to kill him? 😂 that's stupid.
Saying "he was never walking out of that arena"... then what was the point of the arena at all? Just content... when punishments weren't suppose to be about that at all.
@@OrdinarySense The point of the arena was to make content out of it... He was never meant to survive it, but when the rogue helped him and gave him a chance. So they decided to execute him. End of story. Only summit was for some reason thinking its not execution but a fair fight...
@ThePianistONE if the outcome was predetermined, then there would not have been anything to say in the troll chat. If it was 100% he was going to die, the outlook would not have changed after someone chose to protect him.
It was obviously for content, but there is no "content" if his death is certain. Content could only be created by the small chance he could live.
Yes the odds would be heavily stacked against him... but to say most believed there was 0 chance and the outcome was predetermined... simply not true.
Summit believed that there was a small chance that if a perfect storm came together that the guy would have a tiny sliver of hope to save his invested time. That for better or worse it was all left up to luck... not that the odds would shift in favor of the guy only to have spineless losers decide that they alone get to chose the outcome.
@@OrdinarySense are you an idiot?
@@OrdinarySenseHis perfect storm would've been if a 60 decided to not jump in, that's how gurabashi arena works, anyone can go in at any level. Expecting a fair fight around his level was not a reasonable expectation, especially with over 50k people watching
THIS IS THE CONTENT WE NEED
at the end of the day, this was an execution with extra steps, and Zeroji ended up being the executioner. The whole point of this was that ANYBODY who felt like it could go in and kill Sequisha. He agreed to the punishment knowing his chances of survival were minimal. The original punishment was a gkick, Sequisha got out lucky.
The punishment was death. Why are people getting mad about a swift death not risking other players toon?
Crazy, summit whining about hours lost, Sequisha lost those hours the moment he got caught cheating.
Atleast we got a public exectution out of it. Summit is boring for onlyfangs content and should just leave tbh
Making it about content and then getting the sweatiest guy to do a "swift kill" is the most anti-content thing you can do. Not fun for anyone involved except zeroji. Very Iame
@@cx3622 He was in the arena for 5 mins,
And when zeroji jumped in the guy was basically dead anyway
@@cx3622you gotta be fucking kidding me with this goofy ass take lmao
Punishment wasn't death. If that was the case he would of deleted.
Don’t understand why Summit can’t dislike Zerojii?
What Summit says isnt completely wrong, in the sense Sequisha didnt cheat at all and he was just being punished because his race was behind on points, then yeah you got a point. But he literally cheated on stream and he knew what he was doing. Soda gave Sequisha 2 options, to either get gkicked and he wont get back in again, and hes finished or he kills his character but he can stay in the guild. Then he decided to make content out of it and to make an example of it, he was never planned to live, even if he did make it past 15 minutes Soda was probably going to have him die another way, its an execution not a duel or challenge. It would've been more weird to have the cheater live and let go with slap on the wrist which would not be fair for other people in the guild so Summit bringing fairness in it was wild. Whats even more wild is that Soda asked Summit if he would rather have Soda kicked him from the guild and Summit even said no he didnt agree with that either, so at that point Summit was going based off his emotions and the fact he likes Sequisha. Sequisha took his own hours away after cheating, least he is still in the guild, he couldve easily been gkicked and that was done with.
The death punishment is still a compromise from the original rule, he should've kicked from the guild and the discord channel. Sequisha's stream content with wow would've been put to a halt for God knows how long. Sequisha is a veteran wow player, Summit just don't realize that Sequisha's cheating is lowering the guild's moral on the rules.
I think summit would've still been mad even if sequisha would've died fair and square, i mean he was against killing the character at all and instead proposed that he should just lose all his gold as punishment idk
Summit keeps talking about fail RP, but in the metric of WoW RP he's actually failing extremely bad by shit talking and bleeding IC into OOC. Not to mention arguing with decisions about what people want to do with their time while demanding they respect his hours. It's cringe beyond belief.
No, as an online influencer YOU CAN'T PUBLICLY DISLIKE YOUR TEAMMATE FOR SOMETHING THE OTHER WAS COERCED TO DO. What is wrong with you people for defending summit for this? This is below the basics... for real.
the main problem is summit didn't like a level 60 killing the 30+. that's all. he wanted to give the fella a fairer fight
Squesiha was dying there no matter what he cheated
Not only did sequisha cheat in the most shady and dishonest way possible. He also conspired with a level 45 rogue to stealth in the arena and defend him from any attackers. It's literally an obstruction of justice. So how can summit call anyone sweaty when having a level 45 rogue stealth and kill any attackers is the most sweaty thing I've ever seen. Summit fully expected the dude to survive the arena because he was guarded by the rogue. He's just butt hurt because the 45 rogue couldn't stop a level 60 😂 amma' right?
Bodyguards were allowed, they just couldn't be in Seq's group
5:00 Soda didn't know what to say because something made since.
Made since what?
Also I think he's just flabbergasted by how the guy is being a dick behind the guise of an opinion. It'd be like if I called you a fucking moron for not using the word sense. It's unnecessary and rude.
Edit comment again. It's still not correct.
@Kallut1337 i edited for the time, and I am correct. It's nog like I edited it after you made some gotcha comment. Go back to your mom's basement little child.
Didnt Summit1g and his "crew" used to bully other streamers on nopixel to get their way?
Grown ass men btw haha
If you cant see both sides of the story and respect summit + sodas opinion, you're just biased towards your favorite streamer.
100%
Or just don’t break the rules that were set before it started
I like sum more than soda and summit is completely wrong on this one.
@@2HandedTexan People can make their own opinions too doesn't necessarily have to be that
@@SusucaruA rule was also we’re not making content of cheating and immediately did it.
summit dont understand , the lvl 60 player was needed to step in and finish the job because sequisha would have shit on the casual players close to his level with game knowledge alone , players who didnt even do anything wrong would have had to relvl again and waste another 60 hrs for nothing
If I have this right, Summit is mad because he was under the assumption that Sequisha had a chance of survival and that it was taken fully away when the level 60 intervened. Summit wouldn’t have gone on a tangent if someone had killed Sequisha that was around the same level and not a level 60 because that’s a 0% chance of survival. Am I missing something cause if that’s true then I’m on Summit’s side.
That was his entire gripe. I think Summit went way too hard but it was definitely lame for Zeroji to jump in.
To be fair though, there was i believe a 43lvl rogue helping him so nothing was really fair
ye gurubashi arena is the pinnacle of unfair pvp
@@xanderoptik if you watch Summit you know Summit is an all or nothing type of guy
Sequisha cheated, and not slightly cheated, but turned off all the adding to sell shit on the auction house which is inflated cause 90% of the sever is doing Ironman. They let him stay in the guild by basically having a ceremonial killing of him in the pvp pit. Summit is mad cause he was killed, simple as that. If summit wants to be mad at people he should also be mad at the higher level people defending sequisha. Going forward they should just enforce the rules they had set and should just gkick the person. But I can almost guarantee summit would get mad at that as well cause that is “fail rp”
Summit has the mentality of an 8 year old child
He's coming off as an asshole and he's over talking because he knows he doesn't have any argument so he's preventing the other dude from being able to say anything. People only argue like that when they have poor position and if I was the dude on the left I would've long since said you need to stop interrupting me, especially if you're gonna ask me a question. I let you talk, so have that same respect
Says you lol
and soda is dressing as one, either of them is an adult.. sadly
Thats would have been an insta g kick for summit in my book.
1G vs 0g 😂
Soda is the one who escalated this by making a call to Summit and antagonizing him while other streamers were saying the same thing. He needs to look at himself. Not sure how no one sees that.
Well soda can do no wrong he’s a dick should be banned on retail about 5x over for shit he’s the poster child for toxic kids on wow he’s scrupled the community he’s a pretentious bitch who changes the rules as he sees fit to fit however him and his people need to fit
The hivemind is stupid on this one. Summit has a point and Soda is far too stubborn to understand or even listen to summit. I don’t have a personal preference for either. But summit is not wrong and is completely entitled to his opinion.
No summit is completely wrong on this one... Sequisha was sentenced to Gurubashi Arena to be killed by ANYONE and if he survives he can keep his character. He didnt survive... end of story. Other options were Gkick and character delete so he got out lucky it wasnt a Gkick.
Zeroji is cringe per usual
Soda fanboуѕ being deIiberateIу obtuѕе IoI... It's not about the punishment. It's about pretending that it's for content and then you get the highest lvl player to end it fast, essentially removing the content part of it. It was entertaining until the high level came. No one said it's unjustified, Summit just said that it's Iame, which it truly is.
Brother it was for 15 minutes, 15 minutes was almost up, Zeroji goes in and kills him since his time was up in the arena. Bro was never getting to live, and the most wild part is Soda asked summit what he would rather do gkick sequisha? Summit wasnt even down to gkick him either nor kill off his character and said there are better ways of punishment like delete his gold. This whole thing was supposed to be an example to set for other people in the guild that wants to cheat and going forward its an instant gkick no content, it just so happen Sequisha was the first.
Summit's whole point is "dont take 60 hours from people" but is crying when a level 60 saves a bunch of lower levels from dying which was happening. He doesn't have to like it but stop complaining so loudly and move along.
I found it entertaining. You're seeing an example of a vocal minority take issue with something that was gonna already happen. No one is being obtuse, it's just goofy shit that's not worth being a dick to other people over. "The high level came in and killed the cheater" is not something to send hate towards someone for and if you can't see that I don't know what to tell you besides don't interact with other people until you've left elementary school.
I’m sorry but soda trying to circle back multiple times in this argument and summit shutting that shit down leading to soda turning full Karen mode is the cornyest shit I’ve seen in a long time.
Well done sum sum, u stood on principles respect 😂
Summit is 100% right here idek what chance is talking ab he argues like a female. its so clear as day why its messed up but he doesnt want to admit that because that would make him wrong.
I wonder if Soda doesn't know how condescending he comes off in these conversations or if he just has terrible social skills because that is not how you talk to another grown man.
Let’s not act like summ1ts delivery is any better. You are also speaking to an og wow player. That’s arguing with literal aids. Soda definitely didn’t understand his argument. Peer pressure is t a good reason to do something. You can’t just commit a murder and go oh people were telling me to do it. But summit had terrible delivery too. He should’ve just said it was a trash scenario and moved on.
@@joebk44 not once did Summit start acting like a child towards soda he will simply giving his opinion and soda couldn't handle it did the usual buzzwords your this and your that bullshit
Brother what? He handled the situation so "well/calm" that most people were actually genuinely suprised by him but somehow somebody online obviously has a different "opinion" once again. Imagine any under 1k streamer would have talked this incoherent nonsense rant summit did, they would have been instantly raged at + punishment, atleast. You for sure are allowed to talk "condescending" to another grown man that is straight up ranting about nonsense and literally sending hate towards a smaller streamer, especially if you take the time to explain the situation to him "in person", yet this grown adult pothead refuses to understand the situation . "Ugh ugh, but, i can have my own opinion" Yeah you can, you shouldnt tho, because you are clearly dumb as rocks. Is what he should have said to summit.
@@joebk44nobody cares how long Soda has been playing WoW. He invited summit to play all the same and he stated in his initial rules that anyone who broke the rules would be gkicked and then he switches his rule last second to farm content and embarrass Sequisha even more. Just kick him and be done with it like you said you were gonna do
Summit was personally attacking one of his guilds members, thats exactly how you talk to a bully
summit so dumb take
Not really they said they would not farm content off this shit then said nah we not gonna ban you just gotta survive 10 minutes here and you are good while having the only guy at 60 on server there to end it whenever knowing nobody could stop it summits
Take is simply that wether or not he was pressured into doing it or not that it was a bitch move to jump in and end it when it could have had a natural end he is a big boy and chose to listen to people saying he should jump in I also agree I woulda said nah fuck that you
Risk your hide for it