6x Full Corrosion Trickster Dagon, doing like 95% of it's damage output via corrosion - and a lot of it. Anything with a shield is a nightmare but anything else has a problem. However, I'm afraid, we won't see this setup anymore after 9.8, because it will nerf these corrosion weapons sooo hard, unless - hopefully - Pixie listens to a lot of our feedback and re-considers some of those changes.
The tricksters are already great and well balanced as they are currently Maybe decrease the corrosion by 30% and that becomes a perfectly balanced weapon
I had the craziest glitch ever in a team death match I tried to spawn my mender but it spawned in a scorpion that wasn’t even mine I looked at my hanger in battle and I still had all five bots so it gave me a glitched free scorpion as a 6 bot
This is a game based around robot customization but yet there is only 2 to 3 bots that are viable out of the 100 or so bots around lol. Pixo knows how to show ONLY what they want you to use.
the thing that surprises me is not the severity of the nerf but the fact that the people in the developer team that are responsible for balancing these new contents did a terrible job at it but still havent got fired because this is not the first time nor the last time we will see this happens, and this wouldnt be a reoccurring thing if Pixo fired those people and hire people that can do a better job at balancing content in the first place
i know why it is getting nerfed. Cuie and another Titan have to ability to get extra health and they are very hard to kill because of the fast recharge of the ability. I was planning to use corrosion to counter them. Pixonic notice that the corrosion maybe able to counter these new robots and titan, so they nerf this weapons to the ground immediately
The nerf is absolute bonkers. 0.5s is a really big time interval for each shot. 0.2 would've been an ok nerf but I think it was unnecessary to do so. Hopefully they would change that.
the nerfs they did to the rust & dot weapons is literally the exact same nerf that they did to other rust weapons (claw, jaw, and talon) just slowing their fire rate and they will be completely useless.
Hey Manni. Recommend a weakness on the Newton. When the Newton applies the choke, it opens up it's hull. Make that a weakness. If you can shoot it into that while lifted, then it can cause extra huge amount of additional damage or completely destroy it with one shot.
Another weakness to add to your idea: If Newton looks away from the target it lifted, the target immediately drops. Bonus weakness/strength if the devs are feeling passionate: If the Newton then looks at another target within the ability's range, that target will only accumulate gravity-amp effect, but if it doesn't find another target then the Newton itself accumulates gravity-amp effect for the remaining duration of its opened state.
Manni. I also experimented with this corrosion, and its like you say, it brings a different aspect to the game where trolling and other strategies comes into play, the delayed kill effect is so satisfying, and its so lame from Pixonic to actually make this weapens to nothing. Pixonic doesnt know what the community needs at all. And they don't listen. They are growing their own grave. And its getting deeper with each update. If they need to nerf the Tricksters for instance, start with the range from 600m to 500m and first see how it goes, if its still OP, then maybe try to limit the corrosion duration from 15 seconds to maybe 10 seconds. But now they nerf every aspect if this weapon. Which means its basically dead, and nobody will use it anymore. Pixonic = Money. Thats it!
I don't have these weapons but I agree they are cool and should be left alone for a longer while before they try anything. It wasn't even that long ago since they halved their corrosion but removed the stack limit.
i think pixonic made a mistake i give me an eiffel out of no where and no its was not from a giveaway some of you guys will say i am lucky but i have nothing for it so im not using it
"This is how corossion were intended to be in the first place" What I instantly thought. Then I remembered that it were OP at some point HAVING A LIMIT (80 or 60 I believe). Ye, power plank is way higher now 😢
Manni its better for you to replace a trickster for a tamer in order to block the healing capability of the enemy , therefore makes them die briefly and surely.
It would be a nice buff if corrosion could be applied to shields, just didn’t do as much damage to the shields, such as the corrosion doing 75% of it’s normal damage while affecting shields and doing 100% of its damage when affecting the robot. Ofc the 75% should shift (if needed) to make the corrosion against shields actually balanced.
The problem with these weapons is that you can simply shoot a clip at the enemy and just walk away, the rust effect will do the rest. Many, are you going to make a video about how broken Curie is?
@@Villainarc_Leo Extra correction: "Rust" effect only reduces healing. What reduces defense points is the "Fragility" effect found only in the Talon rockets family.
Honestly i'm absolutely fine if these things are nerfed because they were released BROKEN OP so ZERO SYMPATHY from me and this goes for Newton + Tonan & Fulgar and Ochokochis too :)
Well in my humble opinion, although the nerf seems hard those weapons family (dot, rust) are broken, and we all know what happened to claw, jaw and talon, a good balance could reduce the time effect to 7-10 second and the distance to 500mts so they still can deal good damage, recharge mother ship quickly and make a kill in two clips discharge
The in-game descriptions of all corrosion weapons show DoT and its upgrades based on its damage per second. A DoT stack *always* ticks once per second. So no.
And now it's basically a T1 weapon, but of course they hide that by keeping it T4 and now trying to get people to waste money on it. The nerf should NOT have affected the unique 15-seconds DoT duration.
I love them because I can let them shoot me to charge my repair amps and then cancel their corrosion with a built-in phase shift (Ravana, Angler) or corrosion immunity (Revenant).
Manni try crisis robot with hel cryo weapons. It metls titans like it slow them down makes them difficult to turn around and their movement is so decreased that you can get out of tough situations....by the way thank you for bringing such great news.❤😊
@dongphamxuan5185 but it's and energy ammo. I know that reload time is not sufficient but it can get you out some difficult situations and also deal good damage.
Hacker imitating you manni: lookwhostalkin in trinity clan with basically an indestructible hawk. If that is you basically a broken build, was unkillable and hawk is squishy
Hi manni a real shame for these weapons after the effort I made to find 2 of them since they introduced them into the game pixonic always promptly ruining future projects of robots and combinations the thing that always makes me fucked up and nervous that we players can never count to possess valid weapons, especially those of us who are out of the champions' league, useful weapons that we would need to be able to move forward, always prevented by the time we receive these weapons, unlike those who spend money like crazy and consume them for over 3 months, this is the death of the game lack of everyone being the same without distinction between those who spend little and those who spend a lot😔😡
Manni. How are people supposed to experiment is everything is expensive? Lot of silver, then memoriam for pilot skill not to mention everything for the bot. Weapons on dragon times six sooo weapons used on dragon that are nerfed even if it’s mk2 it’s a big hit to the player and things that are mk3 it’s enough to make people quit. How much money was spent on the stupid data pads just to get the dumb ass weapons? Stop defending pixonic for their crap balancing because that’s not what they do, every season there is an op bot and dead bots.- u know the cycle.trickster is getting beyond killed it’s getting over killed and it really only works well on Dagon wich has six slots now imagine it on normal bots with 2-3 light slots it’s gonna be slapping your opponent with a tissue that’s not even balled up.
I tried 3 Trickster in their current state on Loki once, it wasn't bad, just balanced. If they do the nerf they are planning, it won't work on Dagon anymore than on any other robot. These aren't like blast weapons that you need multiples to achieve the effect.
I wish I could have tamer or trickster, very hard to get them for F2P players through blue data pads, pixonic should understand this but it never gonna a happen😢
@@tedspeed3338 let’s say a robot has 6 weapons equipped with each weapon dealing 100 damage, or 600 in total. Later, each weapon gets a 10% damage buff, bringing it to 110 damage, or in total, 660. This is an overall increase of 10%, not 60%. As 10% of the total (600) is 60, and it gained 60 damage. Get what I’m saying?
Is it me or does pixonic add bots in the lower league to pilot meta bots to force players to purchase them? Cuz I saw a lot of ophions and ochos that behaves nothing like a human would 😅
I love my ochokochi damper/tricksters, when the amp is stacked you can wipe out everything in 1 clip. Putting in damage and walking away from enemy with their death inevitable. Damage in the bank. Honestly it’s very OP so a nerf was needed but how much of a nerf?
How are you guys still playing this game with this much amount of sadness even manni is struggling with his br account while everything is maxed imagine how low league player struggle this is sad
Manni isn't struggling here. Those are called balanced battles. The real sadness is how Pixonic likes to plan nerfs that completely ruin balance and make stuff worthless, like they are planning against these weapons.
6x Full Corrosion Trickster Dagon, doing like 95% of it's damage output via corrosion - and a lot of it. Anything with a shield is a nightmare but anything else has a problem. However, I'm afraid, we won't see this setup anymore after 9.8, because it will nerf these corrosion weapons sooo hard, unless - hopefully - Pixie listens to a lot of our feedback and re-considers some of those changes.
Well at least Viper is back on top
If you ran daredevil and the corrosion pilot (15% more direct damage), then maybe it would have had more luck against shields.
The tricksters are already great and well balanced as they are currently
Maybe decrease the corrosion by 30% and that becomes a perfectly balanced weapon
@@davortrogon direct damage is so insignificant that even if you add 15% more its going to change absolutely nothing
I had the craziest glitch ever in a team death match I tried to spawn my mender but it spawned in a scorpion that wasn’t even mine I looked at my hanger in battle and I still had all five bots so it gave me a glitched free scorpion as a 6 bot
Nobody talks about how broken the curie is. Its even stronger than ochokochi in its prime 😢
I know i run one 😎
@@Abraham-l8i that is not the right emoji to use with that statement.
@@sadcat9851😅
@@Abraham-l8i maan you're soo cool for that... yeahhhh....
Hardly. Its the next annoying thing but it wont battering ram a whole team like an ocho will
This is a game based around robot customization but yet there is only 2 to 3 bots that are viable out of the 100 or so bots around lol. Pixo knows how to show ONLY what they want you to use.
the thing that surprises me is not the severity of the nerf but the fact that the people in the developer team that are responsible for balancing these new contents did a terrible job at it but still havent got fired because this is not the first time nor the last time we will see this happens, and this wouldnt be a reoccurring thing if Pixo fired those people and hire people that can do a better job at balancing content in the first place
All by design
They wont get fired, because that's what they were hired to DO.
Nothing survives from pixo
sheild breaker is a must with this build because this weapon doesnt even tickle any type of sheild
i know why it is getting nerfed. Cuie and another Titan have to ability to get extra health and they are very hard to kill because of the fast recharge of the ability. I was planning to use corrosion to counter them. Pixonic notice that the corrosion maybe able to counter these new robots and titan, so they nerf this weapons to the ground immediately
You are probably right.
The nerf is absolute bonkers. 0.5s is a really big time interval for each shot. 0.2 would've been an ok nerf but I think it was unnecessary to do so. Hopefully they would change that.
7:10 bro really took a curie as an example, like it was possible to kill a curie with any weapon 💀💀💀
That mothership is saving him without it he is done
Good mood Gaming; where dreams are crushed one Software update at a time.
the nerfs they did to the rust & dot weapons is literally the exact same nerf that they did to other rust weapons (claw, jaw, and talon) just slowing their fire rate and they will be completely useless.
Hey Manni. Recommend a weakness on the Newton. When the Newton applies the choke, it opens up it's hull. Make that a weakness. If you can shoot it into that while lifted, then it can cause extra huge amount of additional damage or completely destroy it with one shot.
It doesn't have a armor or so such that the hull is more vulnerable. It just has too much hp for a sniper titan
Another weakness to add to your idea: If Newton looks away from the target it lifted, the target immediately drops.
Bonus weakness/strength if the devs are feeling passionate: If the Newton then looks at another target within the ability's range, that target will only accumulate gravity-amp effect, but if it doesn't find another target then the Newton itself accumulates gravity-amp effect for the remaining duration of its opened state.
You can’t make nearly as much “mistakes” as pixonic, they literally TRY to make all the mistakes possible…
Figured just got two trickster two tamer kephri. Stop the nerfs
I honestly don't know why they are nerfing Tricksters lol. I honestly think out of all the weapons Trickster was the most Balanced.
Yep.
the "sandbox" aspect you mentioned is %100 why i keep playing the game
What’s sad is the dot weapons r actually somewhat balanced because u can counter heal, phaseshift and shields prevent it
DoT weapons even help the enemies charge up their Repair Amps. Also, Revenant has 100% DoT resistance in its ability.
Manni the same goes for cestus ksyphos weapons , they are really balanced
It's been a long time since I watched you manni, it's sad to see such a good youtuber and Channel get barely any views. It's sad.
🤔🤔🤔Didn't the last big rebalance get rid of the shield meta, just under a year ago, and now it's back...!!!😎👍🇨🇦
l think you is my best youtube l watch you video three year😊
The nether with the shield breaker pilot with tricksters might work well for bypassing shields.
With each update, Pixonic gets even crazier. Is this even a game?
More like a test laboratory, where they test, how much garbage the players can tolerate😂
Great job as always. Keep them coming
Well obviously without a Tamer, Trickster will struggle. Sad to see them go tbh...
But a Tamer can go without a Trickster and not struggle
Manni. I also experimented with this corrosion, and its like you say, it brings a different aspect to the game where trolling and other strategies comes into play, the delayed kill effect is so satisfying, and its so lame from Pixonic to actually make this weapens to nothing. Pixonic doesnt know what the community needs at all. And they don't listen. They are growing their own grave. And its getting deeper with each update. If they need to nerf the Tricksters for instance, start with the range from 600m to 500m and first see how it goes, if its still OP, then maybe try to limit the corrosion duration from 15 seconds to maybe 10 seconds. But now they nerf every aspect if this weapon. Which means its basically dead, and nobody will use it anymore. Pixonic = Money. Thats it!
I don't have these weapons but I agree they are cool and should be left alone for a longer while before they try anything. It wasn't even that long ago since they halved their corrosion but removed the stack limit.
Finally Manni's video released!!! I was waiting all day
My new fav weap getting nerf 😢 im running 4 of those with magnetar on dagon
Hey manni, when is the announcement of the shenlou giveaway🎉?
i think pixonic made a mistake i give me an eiffel out of no where and no its was not from a giveaway some of you guys will say i am lucky but i have nothing for it so im not using it
The first build I can comfortably say is underpowered. This thing actually needs a buff to be viable
Manni can you make a video on you using old meta hangars
Would appreciate a lot
"This is how corossion were intended to be in the first place" What I instantly thought. Then I remembered that it were OP at some point HAVING A LIMIT (80 or 60 I believe). Ye, power plank is way higher now 😢
How about corrosion DPS actually stacks the nuclear amp?!
Manni its better for you to replace a trickster for a tamer in order to block the healing capability of the enemy , therefore makes them die briefly and surely.
Wies Schwein vorm Uhrwerk 😂😂👍🏼
It would be a nice buff if corrosion could be applied to shields, just didn’t do as much damage to the shields, such as the corrosion doing 75% of it’s normal damage while affecting shields and doing 100% of its damage when affecting the robot. Ofc the 75% should shift (if needed) to make the corrosion against shields actually balanced.
Next new OP weapon, DoT machine gun with 800m range that ignores all shields.
Trickster and Damper still has potential currently in this update, but in 9.8 the firing rate of the rust and corrosion guns makes it useless
As corrosive maniac, that's really satisfying 😂
The game is so broken this days
The problem with these weapons is that you can simply shoot a clip at the enemy and just walk away, the rust effect will do the rest. Many, are you going to make a video about how broken Curie is?
Rust effect doesnt deal damage to the enemy. It reduces healing and defense points
@@Villainarc_Leo Extra correction: "Rust" effect only reduces healing. What reduces defense points is the "Fragility" effect found only in the Talon rockets family.
Cant wait tiil the shenlou special edition comes out 🎉
Honestly i'm absolutely fine if these things are nerfed because they were released BROKEN OP so ZERO SYMPATHY from me and this goes for Newton + Tonan & Fulgar and Ochokochis too :)
The corrosion weapons are not the problem it is the damper tamers
@@oliverantholz5937 True 👍🏼
They Silently buff The Curie you just can't kill a curie.. i hate the game balance
Well in my humble opinion, although the nerf seems hard those weapons family (dot, rust) are broken, and we all know what happened to claw, jaw and talon, a good balance could reduce the time effect to 7-10 second and the distance to 500mts so they still can deal good damage, recharge mother ship quickly and make a kill in two clips discharge
The rust ones are broken, but the DoT ones never were.
Wouldn’t making the dot time shorter, just make the damage tick faster?
Nope, dot deals damage per second
The in-game descriptions of all corrosion weapons show DoT and its upgrades based on its damage per second. A DoT stack *always* ticks once per second. So no.
My Wasp Typhon with Midea Nerium & the Ghost skill works very well.
Not against ochos
@@Villainarc_Leo does anything really tho?
@@RightClickAnxiety Sonic weapons and rust deals with ochos quite easily
@@Villainarc_Leo true, also waiting for the ability to run out works well now.
Welcome to The Quaker Fam
Imagine 6.6 mio damage in 2018, oh man
So you can shoot at reflectors and not take the receiving damage, and you cant charge up the enemies absorbers when you shoot them?
No bc dot bypasses all types of resistance as well as the blast effect
What you *can* charge up is the enemies' Repair Amps 👍
@@thenthtinkerer7635 facts
this isnt overpowered at all, doesnt need a nerf right?
Hey Manni, when will the the shenlou giveaway end?
And now it's basically a T1 weapon, but of course they hide that by keeping it T4 and now trying to get people to waste money on it. The nerf should NOT have affected the unique 15-seconds DoT duration.
When is the giveaway results released?
THANK GOODNESS! I hate those stupid weapons that drain my HP by the corrosion.
I love them because I can let them shoot me to charge my repair amps and then cancel their corrosion with a built-in phase shift (Ravana, Angler) or corrosion immunity (Revenant).
Nostolgia hits hard
Manni try crisis robot with hel cryo weapons. It metls titans like it slow them down makes them difficult to turn around and their movement is so decreased that you can get out of tough situations....by the way thank you for bringing such great news.❤😊
it's all fun game till you're out of armo💀
@dongphamxuan5185 but it's and energy ammo. I know that reload time is not sufficient but it can get you out some difficult situations and also deal good damage.
Old corrosion effect is much better then the new one
Hacker imitating you manni: lookwhostalkin in trinity clan with basically an indestructible hawk. If that is you basically a broken build, was unkillable and hawk is squishy
Another day of asking manni for an updated version of the spec ops falcon 😤
The more I play this game, the more disappointing it started to look at me
Hi manni
a real shame for these weapons after the effort I made to find 2 of them since they introduced them into the game pixonic always promptly ruining future projects of robots and combinations the thing that always makes me fucked up and nervous that we players can never count to possess valid weapons, especially those of us who are out of the champions' league, useful weapons that we would need to be able to move forward, always prevented by the time we receive these weapons, unlike those who spend money like crazy and consume them for over 3 months, this is the death of the game lack of everyone being the same without distinction between those who spend little and those who spend a lot😔😡
Manni. How are people supposed to experiment is everything is expensive? Lot of silver, then memoriam for pilot skill not to mention everything for the bot. Weapons on dragon times six sooo weapons used on dragon that are nerfed even if it’s mk2 it’s a big hit to the player and things that are mk3 it’s enough to make people quit. How much money was spent on the stupid data pads just to get the dumb ass weapons? Stop defending pixonic for their crap balancing because that’s not what they do, every season there is an op bot and dead bots.- u know the cycle.trickster is getting beyond killed it’s getting over killed and it really only works well on Dagon wich has six slots now imagine it on normal bots with 2-3 light slots it’s gonna be slapping your opponent with a tissue that’s not even balled up.
I tried 3 Trickster in their current state on Loki once, it wasn't bad, just balanced. If they do the nerf they are planning, it won't work on Dagon anymore than on any other robot. These aren't like blast weapons that you need multiples to achieve the effect.
I wish I could have tamer or trickster, very hard to get them for F2P players through blue data pads, pixonic should understand this but it never gonna a happen😢
Yellow
I have a question that "should i buy a minos or save for a luchador "
Iam in gold league
I suggest luchador. Minos can also work but luchador is the final boss in my opinion.
@@no_onexlluchador could be nerfed again in the future though. Minos won’t be touched
Hi manni
Can u do live streams where u do squads with viewers?
i thought they were taking the effect cap off while reducing the corrossion per shot by 50%?
They already did that as seen in the video. But now they want to change the weapons again, this time to ruin.
We need a video about Crisis Reaper!🙋♂️
we already had that ;-; can you see?
curie must be in the nerf list.
I’d like to see more guides
The volt got a 5% increase. Maybe Manni can revisit the volt Dagon with 30% more firepower?
That’s not quite how percentages work
@@eggroll1548 Each one has 5% more power and there's six of them, what am i missing?
@@tedspeed3338 let’s say a robot has 6 weapons equipped with each weapon dealing 100 damage, or 600 in total. Later, each weapon gets a 10% damage buff, bringing it to 110 damage, or in total, 660. This is an overall increase of 10%, not 60%. As 10% of the total (600) is 60, and it gained 60 damage. Get what I’m saying?
@@eggroll1548 im picking up what you're putting down
@@tedspeed3338 I like that term
Great vid Manny keep up the good work and stay safe....
You didn't used Midea Medium pilot who buff the corrosion weapons
Hey hey
How did he get to much gold??? Please tell me
Manny try a Dagon Sting robot just because
Id add 2 quarkers to break the shields.
❤I agree with you ❤
after 9.8 its just a boost for repair amps
I've stopped playing after spending thousands on robots just for them to nurf all my robots
Is it me or does pixonic add bots in the lower league to pilot meta bots to force players to purchase them? Cuz I saw a lot of ophions and ochos that behaves nothing like a human would 😅
last time i played was 2018... wtf happened
Pixonic happened🤷 😂
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Bro I think the speed nerf from 0.1s --> 0.5s is not an 80% nerf but a 400% nerf......
80% would be if it was increased to 0.18 from 0.10 ......
Though I could be wrong ...... After all I almost failed maths in middle school and didn't have to study it after that lol.
Talking about that nerf of damper tamer
You great
Use frozen tamer mk3 and frozen dagon
So, we needs more yellow shields. 😂
Thank you Pigsonic for Ruin the Game. 🎉
Or physical shields, or phase shift. These corrosion weapons are not ruining the game.
I love my ochokochi damper/tricksters, when the amp is stacked you can wipe out everything in 1 clip. Putting in damage and walking away from enemy with their death inevitable. Damage in the bank. Honestly it’s very OP so a nerf was needed but how much of a nerf?
The nerf should have been for the Dampers/Tamers alone, not the Tricksters.
next video play the nether please
I like that German saying could u repeat it u said its like a pig infront of a contraption trying to understand it how do I say this lol
That's funny, it's a good saying
The dot made me stop playing the game, can't counter heal can't do anything but spend money on powercells.
What? DoT is the most counter-healable type of damage. You were been hit with Rust too, maybe, and at that point DoT isn't the problem.
Manni try basilisk and krait
Hello!
Manni you need to kick someone out of your clan in Raid so I can join!
Seraph please
How are you guys still playing this game with this much amount of sadness even manni is struggling with his br account while everything is maxed imagine how low league player struggle this is sad
Manni isn't struggling here. Those are called balanced battles. The real sadness is how Pixonic likes to plan nerfs that completely ruin balance and make stuff worthless, like they are planning against these weapons.
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Yooo
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