Dr ROLFCOPTER! and so far, it looks like Trump has been doing that. Maybe not for programs, but it looks like every one reg he adds, he cut about five others
@Dr ROLFCOPTER! funny you mentioned Twitter since he did give that executive order. And man, WTF happened to CNN??? Where was the CNN with Anderson Cooper or the one who covered 9/11?
It's why Ukraine gave Hunter and Joe all that money...use the green lobby to reduce domestic production, to increase the price of oil, and make America energy dependent again.
There are warnings on those things about ethanol, but it is fine where there are NO RUBBER parts to deteriorate and NO PLASTIC parts to melt... The information here is NOT complete, it is biased and not FULL INFORMATION.
haha that reminds me of how car parts are going organic and less plastic. i can set a mouse on your car and it'll chew the wires down and cost you $1k to fix it
@@ender2664 oh yeah you must live on the coast. try living in the actual midwest. it's very hard to find a pump without ethanol poisoning. and why does it cost the same as gas? it's less effective.
No you can thank Obama the Imposter for over $9 trillion of that debt in 8 years of theft and mismanagement. Remember YOU elected a President who had never ran anything. I damn sure didn't and millions like me.
The debt is a way for the wealthy to make money instead of paying taxes. They lend money to the government instead of paying taxes and then they get paid back.
Kim O'Brien not to mention how this paper currency is printed out of thin air and is backed by nothing but the money in your bank account which is worth less and less the more they print. It's called inflation kids and it's the greatest theft man kind will ever know.
chemistry fact= ethanol has less energy per gallon compared to gasoline, so you burn more of it to travel the same distance as gasoline BUT you pay a premium for ethanol plus your tax dollars go to subsidize ethanol so it cost you WAY MORE to burn ethanol.
@@m5387 it cost way way more money to produce a gallon of ethanol than it does to produce a gallon of gasoline. The amount of energy that it takes to produce a gallon of ethanol is way more then the amount of energy it takes to produce a gallon of gasoline the only benefit of ethanol in a gasoline engine is it increases the octane rating.
We've had a surplus if corn since Vietnam. It is a grain safety stock in case of global war (like WWII). If not bought, the land will be used for non farming, and we'll be at a food disadvantage in an emergency as Germany, Japan and Italy were in 1935-1945. That's the great "conspiracy ". Thays why the food pyramid exactly matches a soldier's mess hall diet. So this is a way to use the "gvment cheese" the government is going to buy to plow under anyway. Ethanol is an octane booster (Ethyl antiknock pumps in the 50s). It allows us to refine 83 octane cheap gasoline and boost it to 87-93 by adding " up to 10% ethanol". It depends on the vehicle's age if you get significantly different fuel mileage or any component degradation. A 65 Plymouth, yeah, 8%. A 2018 Focus Flex, no or not much. As to water separation. That was worse with 100% gasoline and vented caps (like that Plymouth or your lawnmower). If even a little water gets in via moist air, seaspray or into the station storage tanks: gasoline just gets complete water bubbles that won't burn. Ethanol can mix with that moisture (to a saturation point) and it will burn. In the 70s I remember water in the gas and lawnmowers/bikes that got lots of water in the gas, settling at the bottom and the carb bowl by gravity feed. I did live at a seacoast. I remember my Maverick gas tank rusting and having to be removed and cleaned. I remember my Honda tank getting rust in it. That was BEFORE ethanol. That was leaded 89 gasoline. I now have cars that go over 250k miles with no motor or fuel rebuilds. I drain gas from my motorcycle each three months to ensure it is clean and hasn't picked up silt from a pump. I have yet to find a water layer or milky layer in those pulls when i set my petcock to reserve (bottom feed) and drain into a glass bottle. I know there's lots of THIS AND THAT folk knowledge out there, but fuel seems OK to me. It costs $2 a gal or $2.50 for premium. If the gasoline is yellow, it comes from poorer grades of crude oil (like shale or fracking). If clear it comes from better refining. Remember corn alcohol is clear. It doesn't make gasoline yellow. It just gets used in shitty discount gasoline blends as well as good blends. BTW wonderful fracking is injecting steam water into fragmented and sludged oil fields to extract a liquid oil. You don't think that has water in it.
Even though ethanol stores less energy per gallon vs pure gasoline which in turn causes our cars to consume more fuel to go the same distance.... Ethanol is also killing our small engines.....
@@noahpaulette1490 a true free market would mean ethanol would be priced out of the fuel market. govt subsidizes it and if you eliminate that who is going to opt for the much more expensive motor fuel especially seeing as it gives you less mileage and less performance? currently i am paying more for pure gasoline and it still saves me money over the long run as i get much better mileage than i would with the cheaper corn based fuel.
they wanted to get rid of paper bags. now those plastic bags are a environmental disaster. they wanted to reduce co2 and made more brewing ethanol..... can we stop listening to environmentalists now please?
So true.. When I had to drive buses with gas engine I fueled them with strait gas due to better mileage. Then was called into the office and was berated for it. Thou it was a few cents more the engine's ran better received more miles per gal. What the he..ll do cdl drivers know😞
You'll never get it. Heck, these days you can't get a free market where free markets exist. It's not good enough for liberals to choose not to eat at a restaurant. Now they have to shout and people they don't like until they drive those people out of the restaurant, too. So much for freedom to eat where you choose.
@Randy Van Horn And yet somehow there is still excessive violence, almost a million dead from an opioid epidemic among other stupid shit like why the fuck is everyone in your country so fucking fat, and the big problem of the environment not being able to keep all of us live for the next couple hundred years still exists. The only reason a free market works is because almost everyone is too stupid to know what they want to do with their short meaningless lives, so they just buy stupid shit. Meanwhile a few people have really caught on to this and are selling you this stupid shit because you're too stupid to do anything else with your amazing life of vast potential which is also short and meaningless. With a free market you're not necessarily going to be able to have a better future of a life that is actually satisfying, you're just going to have useless products since that's what everyone wants (or was fucking tricked into wanting by advertisers since you really dont seem to know shit). So what are you gonna do with a million iphones, make a better future, or watch stupid fucking videos all day.
@KelMaster Construction The unfortunate reality is that the pursuit of happiness of many has resulted in the suffering and exploitation of many others, as well as destruction of the environment which will result in the suffering of us all, the stark opposite of happiness.
Bradly C I did some the doctor said it not work for health but it working because kidney failure do not get better in one year so I do agree with you that doctors don't know what they talk about half the time
Yea! Kidney failure is not a real thing. Kidney transplants aren't even needed. They just convince you that you need a kidney in order to create a black market of kidneys. It's all a conspiracy man. Everything can be cured if you just think positively and breath. We don't need western medicine and half of the diseases aren't even real, like AIDS or ebola. Have you actually seen anyone not on the fake news die of AIDS or ebola? Get smart!
@@jusrinkoehn5513 by much cheaper you mean the taxpayer foots a great percentage of your vehicle fuel bill. i run pure gasoline in my truck and bike. i get much better mileage and overall better performance than i can with that ethanol crap. 10% corn liquor is bad enough. no way am i using 15% which is what E 85 is.
In Brazil, where ethanol is very, very common, it is produced out of sugar cane, and by what I've seen till today is cleaner than gasoline. But once in while the question comes: we are using or soil to grow fuel instead of food, is it worthy? The ethanol idea exist for a long time here in Brazil, basically since petrol shocks done by OPEC. But we had a guy who said that it wasn't a good idea and invested in eletric cars, his name was Gurgel, at that time was something very simple but the government didn't give the same support to his company as they gave to produce ethanol. And now we have not any 100% Brazilian car company.
Vincent Gonzalez How about hemp it’s good for ethanol production as well and even plastics whatever else basically you can think of let’s get rid of oil already 🤢
What do you mean by "clean"? If it's in regard to the AGW theory had been completely debunked with 100%of their predictions failing over the past to years, then you should reclaim land to grow what you need for food.
Easy to see why McCain can fight this......there isn't a whole lot of corn in Arizona. Had he been a Senator from the Midwest.......this would be a different story.
John: Let the market decide. Politician: But we need to get it started.... .like the war on drugs that's been raging on OUR streets since 1985? Thanks, but NO!
@@AldousHuxleysCatmichigander here. Since weed has been legal anecdotally I've seen a lot less people stumbling around nodding out on heroin / meth. Makes sense that has some of the same pain reducing qualities and it's much cheaper. And some studies have shown that psilocybin mushrooms can help people with PTSD anxiety and all kinds of other things without even getting them high.
@@noahpaulette1490 where I live it's not legal. I wish it where because I know heroin addicts that will tell you weed helps them stop using. So yeah....I 100 percent belive weed can help get people off hard drugs and it should be legal everywhere.
icelineman - use a shutoff valve between the tank and the carb if you can. Shut off the valve when your finished mowing and let the motor run the carburetor dry. If the ethanol sits in the carburetor bowl, it will wreak havoc. I used to have horrible problems with my rototiller until I installed a fuel shut-off valve. Cranks on the first pull every time now, even with the corn-crap in it!
Ethanol is only good because it's cheap and has decent octane. Absolutely destroys Jets on carbs and fuel lines because it's hydrophilic and attracts moisture making some nasty varnishy stuff. I use 110 non ethanol gas in my dirtbikes and stuff and it's great excluding the $10 a gallon that it cost.
Great video as always John! I have older collectible cars and motorcycles with roto-molded plastic gas tanks. Ethanol destroys fuel systems not designed for any ethanol content, and also swells the plastic motorcycle tanks when the ambient water vapor molecules combine with ethanol. Not to mention the nasty binary azeotrope that is formed. All I want is a choice at the pump. There's no pure gasoline available in my state. I'd even (sadly) pay more for pure gas if it was available.
That's actually the real cost of gasoline, E10 pump gas is usually cheaper because of the subsidies. E85 is usually even cheaper still than pump gas for that reason. If you took away the subsidies, the cost would be significantly higher than refined gasoline. Honestly, to me it's worth it to pay 50 cents more to get more power, better mileage, and no ill effects on my classic cars and two stroke engines. The offset in gas mileage increasing 10% makes up for the price premium, IMO.
I've been using ethanol free gas. I get better performance and higher gas mileage after I switched. It costs about $.15 more per gallon but the trade off is worth it.
The Brazilians have plenty of rain forest to burn to plant sugar cane, and less motor vehicles in their geographically huge country than there are in the San Francisco Bay Area alone.
E85 is way better for making power than 93 octane gasoline. Of course you loose a few mpgs but you are able to advance timing substantially or increase boost in a forced induction vehicle without detonation occurring like it would in 93oct.
@ You can find places that sell it away from the cities. Farm equipment that uses gasoline doesn't like ethanol so it's quite available in more rural areas. www.pure-gas.org/maps
Instead, there should be an end to petroleum company subsidies,. But the deep state loves their foreign wars and plentiful fuel for their war machinery. Just one facet of their consumption: "We have the best trained military aviators in the world. Sluuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuurp."
@@solitude2871 yes but cars moter will have a much shorter life span ethanol burns yr engine out quicker. In the long run yr engine will lose its power. I drive a 5.7 lt v8 and no way in hell would i put cheap ethanol fuel in it
@@letsbehonest4221 some cars are built to handle ethanol fuel, because your 5.7 motor is a little bit older it was not built to handle ethanol based fuel, but newer cars such as a 2018+ mustang gt are built to handle ethanol
I used E85 which is 85 percent Ethanol and 15 percent regular gas for my mustang and its been great I been using it for two years ,it makes the the drivibility more smoother and I it gave me a little more of extra horses In my opinion its the best fuel I every used.
I say we make alcohol motors, that way when you break down you can at least get a buzz by drinking some gas. Fun fact: Ford model A could run off of moonshine, more stills than gas stations at the time
I use ethanol in my race motorcycle. If I didn't, I'd be spending $14/gal in race gas. Now I spend $1.80/gal in E85. All I did was change the injectors to ones that flow 30% more, and fine tune on a dyno. I even get more power now than I did on a 50/50 blend of C110/93 gas. I fully support ethanol fuel. Hell, you can make it yourself very easily. Get off of foreign dependencies and put money back into our own economy.
Fun fact: back in 1995 I brought a 1964 Impala that had sat for 10+ years I actually got it running with the same gasoline that had been in it all those years. Fast forward to 2013 I brought a 2003 focus that had been sitting for a few years when I dropped the gas tank to see why it wouldn’t start the fuel pump actually was ate up from the ethanol turning into a acid!!!!!
So since the US is the largest crude oil producer in the world today and most of our oil imports are sourced from Canada with less than 15-20% coming from the Middle East, why are we STILL subsidizing ethanol?!
Conagra and Monsanto thank you for huge profits on corn seed. How many people actually use E85 but that wasn't enough they put the damn stuff in all the gas and the real problems started as it ate fuel tanks, fuel lines, carburetors and mileage went down. Now if you don't drive every day you have to use an additive or you car may not get you home. A typical government mandate that not only costs you at the gas station but at the grocery store too. Thanks for saving us! The mega business farms with thousands of acres are seeing the profit while small farms are dying. So besides ethanol subsidies they get farm subsidies.
@@nobodynever7884 haha cheaper, cleaner? wtf are you smoking.. i live in the midwest where its every where. it's not any cheaper nor efficient. it causes more damage to vehicles. attracts pests. raises food prices. etc
You wouldn't have that problem with a flex fuel. And before you open your mouth, yes I drive one. And from my experience, as long as you don't drive like a lunatic with your foot to the floor all the damn time, your fuel mileage shouldn't suffer that much.
"We're ready to stand on our own feet" But then immediately says they're not actually ready to stand on their own feet. Just that they'd be able to stand on their feet as long as they're standing on your back.
Ethanol is good for the car industry but not for the consumer. Ethanol damages alot of the engine parts of your car. Ethanol can corrode rubber, plastic and many parts inside the engine of the car. The way they try to sell you this is by telling you that you're "helping the environment," which is not true. The gas companies are pumping 10 to 15% Ethanol into your gasoline and yet the prices are still the same or even higher. At the end of the day the consumer has to cough up more money for a new engine or a new car, which is good for the car industry but definitely not good for the environment nor the pocket of the consumer.
@@alexdicero4989 it only gets more power if it's tuned to get more power, typical flex fuel vehicles are not designed to take advantage of ethenols performance qualities. Power is just not relevant for stock vehicles as they could put out far more power with gasoline as well with aftermarket tuning and likely will make less power with the ethenol do to not having high enough volume fuel pump and injectors.
I make my own ethanol in my own solar still and nobody's giving me any subsidy. I produce all the fuel I need to power my cars, tractor, lawn mower, etc. I grow my own corn so other than the modest labor for planting, harvesting, and distilling, it's basically free fuel for me.
It's fine to run ethanol in a dragster, their engines aren't supposed to last longer than a few passes anyways. Street driven classic cars....not so much...
All this maybe true, some of it perhaps not. But there is no doubt about it, if you tube your sports car to run on E85 (85% ethanol) you'll freaking love it.
I grew up on a farm in Illinois, in Zip Code 61376. Between 1995 - 2019 the "farmers" in this zip code received $63,636,727 in farm subsidies. That's just one zip code in the Midwest. A tiny portion of the entire farm land in the U.S. Between 1995-2020, farmers in the entire U.S. received $424.4 Billion in subsidies.
So what? You do know that farmers grow more things than ethanol crops, don't you? You do know that the government provides many more subsidies to the oil and coal industry than to the ethanol industry (which is zero), don't you? And you do know that the oil industry is an profitable industry, don't you? And you must know that petroleum oil fuels have been responsible for the deaths of millions of Americans, don't you?
Fred Stiening oh yes you can. He’s just another political parasite like Mc Caine turned out to be. Both of them nothing but whores . I’d use the word puppet but in their cases whore is far better a description.
Mechanic here. ethanol provides better performance and compression ratios than regular gasoline. Short of methanol, ethanol make for a great race fuel.
True choice at the gas station would be the ability to buy ethanol free gas, but because of government regulations force oil companies to have a certain percentage of ethanol across all the gas they make, they can't offer ethanol free gas in most places.
Stairway to heaven Bohemian rhapsody doesn't matter if it comes from corn or sugar, that's like saying moonshine is alcohol because it comes from corn but vodka isn't because it comes from potatoes, you sir, are a moron.
There is a difference between ethanol cars in Brazil that run on ethanol and my flex-fuel car that "can" run on ethanol. And I'm not sure that if it "can" run on ethanol, that I want to be putting it in my gas tank. Nobody said ethanol was suddenly not alright to power a car. People like myself are concerned about the damage it might do to a flex-fuel car based on trouble other people have had.
Brazil uses sugar cane to produce their ethanol. A ridiculously low yield crop for that purpose. The only reason it's economically feasible is because fuel production is an ancillary byproduct of sugar production.
Isn't this ethanol created by the husk or byproduct of sugar cane? That shouldn't disrupt the market and drive food prices up. Seems like creating energy from a byproduct is not a bad idea, no?
I'm no expert but why not invest more in coal liquifaction to make synthetic oil. I mean to find or improve the efficiency of the current methods that only billion dollar companies can produce.
I don't understand how one man, Mr. John Stossel has more balls to stand up to the man than all of us. If we would ALL just demand what is right, it would be done!
Ethanol: it was originally done for environmental reasons for energy production and cars. Wind and Solar: same basic thing... we keep finding the environmental costs of those 2... I feel like this cycle will never end...
Greens: "THE SCIENCE IS SETTLED! Don't ever question us!" Greens: "Ethanol will help save us from the evils of gasoline!" Greens: "Oops! Now that we studied it we realize it is worse." Greens: "Ban ethanol! THE SCIENCE IS SETTLED!" Is it any wonder that environmentalists require a heavy amount of celebrity endorsements to get people to swallow their 💩?
Do you *really* believe that environmentalists have that kind of power? Money talks in government, a protest sign doesn't. The real reason for ethanol being subsidized is more complex. America was producing less than half the amount of oil we currently produce. We were heavily reliant on OPEC. Ethanol was a desperate attempt to reduce a foreign oil vulnerability. There were also business interests at play and geopolitical shifts in energy consumption.
you know getting 3mpg less cost more for Americans So in 100,000 miles 5000 gallons on 10% 20MPG 4348 gallons on 0% 23MPG so yeah it is WASTING MORE FUEL AND GIVING MONEY AWAY OUTSIDE THE US the additional cost of gas is $2,216.14 for the consumer @$3.399/gallon $16,995 is what it will cost you to drive 100,000 miles @ 20mpg with E10 E0 would be close to the same cost $14,778.85 cost to drive 100,000 miles.. OIl componay stand to profit big time because they know ethanol gives them bigger profits because over all you still have to buy an additional 632 gallons of gas over 100,000 miles that is an additional 5.5 tonnes of CO2 that math checks out SO THE MATTER IS ETHANOL CREATES MORE POLLUTION...
Ethanol is made from sugar, so why would they use corn with very low sugar instead of sugar beets which are mostly sugar, grow faster, and take up less space unless they wanted ethenol to fail so they could push for silly electric cars instead.
I use E85 in my F150 and I love it. The new F150s are high compression engines which need minimum 91 octane, and 93 for the best result. Ethanol is 105-115 octane. It burns super clean (you can stick your finger in the tail pipe and it'll come out clean), it deposits no carbon, burns cool, is wayyyy cheaper then premium (more than a dollar cheaper).
Lol love stossel but he looks at it like ethanol itself is the problem instead of how it’s handled. Organic waste recycling isn’t terribly efficient due to poor investment in the programs, and government got hyped about ethanol so instead of building infrastructure to sustainably manufacture it from waste they farm corn for it, it would be considered a green resource if we reused food scraps to make it
The USA 🇺🇸 must be 100% energy INDEPENDENT. IF USA buys crude oil from middle east, how MUCH in Military COST. Yes modern engine can run on E-85. They can run on E-100, the fuel pump will fail. The 15% gasoline is the lubricate the injectors & fuel pump bearings. Also help start in cold weather. How do I know??? I work at a government research lab. Also change engine oil at 3,000 miles, Not 10,000 miles.
E85 is great for flex fuel Subarus! It's equivalent to about 100 octane, which allows tuners to crank up the boost and get way more horsepower. Without the subsidies, availability never would have grown. It's even more important in Western States that only get crap 91 octane.
Pure ethanol has about 30% less energy than pure gasoline. That means E10 gets you 3% fewer mpg, E15 gets 5.5% fewer, E85 gets 24.5% fewer. Assuming the engine itself is as efficient using E.
@@briant7265 inaccurate as Ethanol improves the way it burns to burn more complete. which is why E10 reduces mileage by 1,5% compared to E5 according to ADAC testing in germany. As a result pollution is reduced by 0,9%, furthermore ethanol produced pollutes 60% less than making gasoline.
I'm not buying stossel's argument here. Yes higher food prices will happen, but so what? that is reasonable. The prices will be higher for HFCS products and meat. Those are relatively unhealthy luxuries. The reason subsidies for ethanol exist is because ethanol isn't something that will naturally be switched to until _far more_ fossil fuel gets pulled out of the ground and burned into the atmosphere. In other words the environment is getting ruined for every bit of time that is spent not _proactively_ working on alternatives to fossil fuels. Also note that with regards to the thing about environment on the end, he never explains _how_ corn ethanol is worse. It's not cut and try that it is worse, and is actually quite unlikely. It is certainly a debated topic, but the the _facts_ is that fossil fuels introduce new carbon into the atmosphere. Growing and burning plant matter just works with what's _already_ been in the atmospheric cycle. It doesn't need to be more energy efficient (and it certainly isn't) to be a viable fuel. Look at the alternative, which would be hydrogen. Hydrogen is _negative_ efficiency, but still a viable fuel for reducing CO2 emissions. It just requires a renewable energy as a source rather than burning more coal.
@@Thedar561 No it is just less time efficient. You still use the same amount of energy in the end to get the same job done, but a larger volume of fuel
The most difficult but MOST NEEDED thing in Washington; undoing inefficient government programs.
The most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the government and I'm here to help. Ronald reagan
Dr ROLFCOPTER! and so far, it looks like Trump has been doing that. Maybe not for programs, but it looks like every one reg he adds, he cut about five others
Impossible. Government will always pursue the longevity of government.
@Dr ROLFCOPTER! funny you mentioned Twitter since he did give that executive order. And man, WTF happened to CNN??? Where was the CNN with Anderson Cooper or the one who covered 9/11?
It's basically in the whole world... And I say that as a brazilian.
"There is nothing more permanent than a temporary government program". ----Ronald Reagan
that's Milton Friedman
Reagan loved big government, he only pretended he didn't
It's the reason the government will never let it go with the covid restrictions. They'll have the power to do it for now on.
Reagan the California Democrat that ran as a Republican President
@@NefosG Unless those U.S. POLITICIANS ARE GONE from those seats in Government
"Everything government touches turns into crap" Ringo Starr.
Like heath care.
No wonder that he & the communist John Lennon hated each other, then.
Ringo is my favorite Beatle!
@@66limelight only the USA government can fail in healthcare
Everything John Stossel chooses to advocate is ALREADY crap.
Burning alcohol as fuel??? That's sacrilege! This won't pass in Russia...
I'll stick to drinking this whiskey fluid instead of powering cars with it thank you. Much more useful that way.
It's why Ukraine gave Hunter and Joe all that money...use the green lobby to reduce domestic production, to increase the price of oil, and make America energy dependent again.
My Great Grandfather ran Moonshine in his car and tank, but cars engines built back then were all metal and tougher then these modern ones.
*Russia is a shithole country*
Ethanol harm small motors, like mowers, weed eaters...etc.
Ethanol also rots fuel lines in cars. Ethanol is hydrophilic, it attracts water and absorbs it.
There are warnings on those things about ethanol, but it is fine where there are NO RUBBER parts to deteriorate and NO PLASTIC parts to melt...
The information here is NOT complete, it is biased and not FULL INFORMATION.
I use recreational gas for my small engines.
haha that reminds me of how car parts are going organic and less plastic. i can set a mouse on your car and it'll chew the wires down and cost you $1k to fix it
@@ender2664 oh yeah you must live on the coast. try living in the actual midwest. it's very hard to find a pump without ethanol poisoning. and why does it cost the same as gas? it's less effective.
The best line, "You're a parasite feeding off the taxpayer"
Savage!
WE NEED MORE OIL.
Subsidies is responsible for our 20 trillion-dollar debt
No you can thank Obama the Imposter for over $9 trillion of that debt in 8 years of theft and mismanagement. Remember YOU elected a President who had never ran anything. I damn sure didn't and millions like me.
Pretty sure the bulk of your debt comes from your defence. (How much over budget was the the Bradley???)
The debt is a way for the wealthy to make money instead of paying taxes. They lend money to the government instead of paying taxes and then they get paid back.
And much of that is oil subsidies.
Kim O'Brien not to mention how this paper currency is printed out of thin air and is backed by nothing but the money in your bank account which is worth less and less the more they print. It's called inflation kids and it's the greatest theft man kind will ever know.
chemistry fact= ethanol has less energy per gallon compared to gasoline, so you burn more of it to travel the same distance as gasoline BUT you pay a premium for ethanol plus your tax dollars go to subsidize ethanol so it cost you WAY MORE to burn ethanol.
ethanol is cheaper than normal gasoline...
@@m5387 you didn't read, did you?
@@m5387 it cost way way more money to produce a gallon of ethanol than it does to produce a gallon of gasoline. The amount of energy that it takes to produce a gallon of ethanol is way more then the amount of energy it takes to produce a gallon of gasoline the only benefit of ethanol in a gasoline engine is it increases the octane rating.
@@m5387 using corn stock to produce ethanol also increases the price of food
We've had a surplus if corn since Vietnam. It is a grain safety stock in case of global war (like WWII). If not bought, the land will be used for non farming, and we'll be at a food disadvantage in an emergency as Germany, Japan and Italy were in 1935-1945. That's the great "conspiracy ". Thays why the food pyramid exactly matches a soldier's mess hall diet.
So this is a way to use the "gvment cheese" the government is going to buy to plow under anyway. Ethanol is an octane booster (Ethyl antiknock pumps in the 50s). It allows us to refine 83 octane cheap gasoline and boost it to 87-93 by adding " up to 10% ethanol".
It depends on the vehicle's age if you get significantly different fuel mileage or any component degradation. A 65 Plymouth, yeah, 8%. A 2018 Focus Flex, no or not much.
As to water separation. That was worse with 100% gasoline and vented caps (like that Plymouth or your lawnmower). If even a little water gets in via moist air, seaspray or into the station storage tanks: gasoline just gets complete water bubbles that won't burn. Ethanol can mix with that moisture (to a saturation point) and it will burn.
In the 70s I remember water in the gas and lawnmowers/bikes that got lots of water in the gas, settling at the bottom and the carb bowl by gravity feed. I did live at a seacoast. I remember my Maverick gas tank rusting and having to be removed and cleaned. I remember my Honda tank getting rust in it. That was BEFORE ethanol. That was leaded 89 gasoline.
I now have cars that go over 250k miles with no motor or fuel rebuilds. I drain gas from my motorcycle each three months to ensure it is clean and hasn't picked up silt from a pump. I have yet to find a water layer or milky layer in those pulls when i set my petcock to reserve (bottom feed) and drain into a glass bottle.
I know there's lots of THIS AND THAT folk knowledge out there, but fuel seems OK to me. It costs $2 a gal or $2.50 for premium. If the gasoline is yellow, it comes from poorer grades of crude oil (like shale or fracking). If clear it comes from better refining. Remember corn alcohol is clear. It doesn't make gasoline yellow. It just gets used in shitty discount gasoline blends as well as good blends.
BTW wonderful fracking is injecting steam water into fragmented and sludged oil fields to extract a liquid oil. You don't think that has water in it.
Even though ethanol stores less energy per gallon vs pure gasoline which in turn causes our cars to consume more fuel to go the same distance....
Ethanol is also killing our small engines.....
@@spagetmen yeah it has issues but definitely has a place in the free market.
Add more oil even for 4 stroke engines . Mix with reg gas.
@@noahpaulette1490 a true free market would mean ethanol would be priced out of the fuel market.
govt subsidizes it and if you eliminate that who is going to opt for the much more expensive motor fuel especially seeing as it gives you less mileage and less performance?
currently i am paying more for pure gasoline and it still saves me money over the long run as i get much better mileage than i would with the cheaper corn based fuel.
they wanted to get rid of paper bags. now those plastic bags are a environmental disaster. they wanted to reduce co2 and made more brewing ethanol..... can we stop listening to environmentalists now please?
So true.. When I had to drive buses with gas engine I fueled them with strait gas due to better mileage. Then was called into the office and was berated for it. Thou it was a few cents more the engine's ran better received more miles per gal. What the he..ll do cdl drivers know😞
It's 2020 now and politicians still haven't untied the ethanol knot.
Oof
But E-85 make car go “vroom vroom” faster
Hell yeah my car rips on ethanol!!
Good, need my vroom to vroom more
It's 2022 and the protests on fuel and food prices are starting.
John is pretty straight forward and brutal. I like him! Instant sub.
WE NEED MORE OIL.
Expect I feel like having a strong drink now for some reason.
I want a free market plain and simple
You'll never get it. Heck, these days you can't get a free market where free markets exist. It's not good enough for liberals to choose not to eat at a restaurant. Now they have to shout and people they don't like until they drive those people out of the restaurant, too. So much for freedom to eat where you choose.
@TheLoneWarrior but muh gdp
Youre a fucking idiot, what the fuck could you possibly do with a free market god dammit
@Randy Van Horn And yet somehow there is still excessive violence, almost a million dead from an opioid epidemic among other stupid shit like why the fuck is everyone in your country so fucking fat, and the big problem of the environment not being able to keep all of us live for the next couple hundred years still exists. The only reason a free market works is because almost everyone is too stupid to know what they want to do with their short meaningless lives, so they just buy stupid shit. Meanwhile a few people have really caught on to this and are selling you this stupid shit because you're too stupid to do anything else with your amazing life of vast potential which is also short and meaningless. With a free market you're not necessarily going to be able to have a better future of a life that is actually satisfying, you're just going to have useless products since that's what everyone wants (or was fucking tricked into wanting by advertisers since you really dont seem to know shit). So what are you gonna do with a million iphones, make a better future, or watch stupid fucking videos all day.
@KelMaster Construction The unfortunate reality is that the pursuit of happiness of many has resulted in the suffering and exploitation of many others, as well as destruction of the environment which will result in the suffering of us all, the stark opposite of happiness.
"We know what's best for you, so just shut up and do what the smart people say."
Yea. Fuck doctors. what do they know after going to school for 12+ years?!
Bradly C I did some the doctor said it not work for health but it working because kidney failure do not get better in one year so I do agree with you that doctors don't know what they talk about half the time
Yea! Kidney failure is not a real thing. Kidney transplants aren't even needed. They just convince you that you need a kidney in order to create a black market of kidneys. It's all a conspiracy man. Everything can be cured if you just think positively and breath. We don't need western medicine and half of the diseases aren't even real, like AIDS or ebola. Have you actually seen anyone not on the fake news die of AIDS or ebola? Get smart!
Bradly C it the way they say it but poison kidney is real and serious it can kill you
TheColdHard Truth at least doctors can sense sarcasm
When they first started adding ethanol into the fuel, I started losing about 50 miles per tank. It doesn't help whatsoever.
Yes, you pay more and get lower mileage.
@@electrical5 wrong. E 85 is much cheaper than gasoline. And who’s to say the op of this thread didn’t get his engine tuned properly for ethanol?
@@jusrinkoehn5513 by much cheaper you mean the taxpayer foots a great percentage of your vehicle fuel bill.
i run pure gasoline in my truck and bike. i get much better mileage and overall better performance than i can with that ethanol crap. 10% corn liquor is bad enough. no way am i using 15% which is what E 85 is.
@@paulk5311 E85 is 85% ethanol 15% gasoline not the other way around
@@jusrinkoehn5513 yes E85 is cheaper. However, most cars can't use it and it indeed takes much more of it to travel the same distance.
In Brazil, where ethanol is very, very common, it is produced out of sugar cane, and by what I've seen till today is cleaner than gasoline. But once in while the question comes: we are using or soil to grow fuel instead of food, is it worthy?
The ethanol idea exist for a long time here in Brazil, basically since petrol shocks done by OPEC. But we had a guy who said that it wasn't a good idea and invested in eletric cars, his name was Gurgel, at that time was something very simple but the government didn't give the same support to his company as they gave to produce ethanol. And now we have not any 100% Brazilian car company.
lets harvest sugar from the parts of plants not eaten, people dont eat cornstalks, lets squeeze the sugar from them
@@VincentGonzalezVeg this
Vincent Gonzalez How about hemp it’s good for ethanol production as well and even plastics whatever else basically you can think of let’s get rid of oil already 🤢
What do you mean by "clean"? If it's in regard to the AGW theory had been completely debunked with 100%of their predictions failing over the past to years, then you should reclaim land to grow what you need for food.
@@VincentGonzalezVeg Why should we do this when it costs MUCH more money? Think of all the good we could do with the money wasted on ethanol!
"Boondoggles live forever". The most true statement I have ever heard in
a very long time.
Ooo. "Parasite"! Love it, John!
That was the best part.
faithdaily1959. Lolol that guys face was brilliant
Faith, I had to rewind that and watch it 3 times! relished it :-)
And you thing editing was not done there?? You know what editing can do??
Easy to see why McCain can fight this......there isn't a whole lot of corn in Arizona. Had he been a Senator from the Midwest.......this would be a different story.
I agree with you
The problem is also that the first caucus is in Iowa. Unless you love corn, you will never win.
Right on! The guy was a sanctimonious POS
Bingo
John Stossel is one of the last good and honest reporters left, stay safe John we need you now more then ever
John: Let the market decide.
Politician: But we need to get it started.... .like the war on drugs that's been raging on OUR streets since 1985? Thanks, but NO!
Try 1971, began under Nixon administration
If the free market wanted it then it would be self starting, almost.
@@AldousHuxleysCatmichigander here. Since weed has been legal anecdotally I've seen a lot less people stumbling around nodding out on heroin / meth. Makes sense that has some of the same pain reducing qualities and it's much cheaper.
And some studies have shown that psilocybin mushrooms can help people with PTSD anxiety and all kinds of other things without even getting them high.
@@noahpaulette1490 no sure why you're replying to me, my comment was about when the war on drugs began, I said nothing pro or con about drugs
@@noahpaulette1490 where I live it's not legal. I wish it where because I know heroin addicts that will tell you weed helps them stop using. So yeah....I 100 percent belive weed can help get people off hard drugs and it should be legal everywhere.
Poor quality fuel it eat the insides of my lawnmower
icelineman - use a shutoff valve between the tank and the carb if you can. Shut off the valve when your finished mowing and let the motor run the carburetor dry. If the ethanol sits in the carburetor bowl, it will wreak havoc. I used to have horrible problems with my rototiller until I installed a fuel shut-off valve. Cranks on the first pull every time now, even with the corn-crap in it!
I don't really understand the problems all that I do after fuels been sitting is dump the carb bowl and it runs fine
Ethanol is only good because it's cheap and has decent octane. Absolutely destroys Jets on carbs and fuel lines because it's hydrophilic and attracts moisture making some nasty varnishy stuff. I use 110 non ethanol gas in my dirtbikes and stuff and it's great excluding the $10 a gallon that it cost.
Don't put it in your mower dummy
@@noahpaulette1490 all have be disproven
Great video as always John! I have older collectible cars and motorcycles with roto-molded plastic gas tanks. Ethanol destroys fuel systems not designed for any ethanol content, and also swells the plastic motorcycle tanks when the ambient water vapor molecules combine with ethanol. Not to mention the nasty binary azeotrope that is formed. All I want is a choice at the pump. There's no pure gasoline available in my state. I'd even (sadly) pay more for pure gas if it was available.
chamberlin1 yes ruins boats too - get your corn out of my tank lol
Where do you live? Here is a website that shows gas stations without ethanol in all 50 states and Canadian provinces. www.pure-gas.org/
Josh Nixon - yes it is here but why should I pay an extra dollar+ for not putting that crap in my tank?
That's actually the real cost of gasoline, E10 pump gas is usually cheaper because of the subsidies. E85 is usually even cheaper still than pump gas for that reason. If you took away the subsidies, the cost would be significantly higher than refined gasoline. Honestly, to me it's worth it to pay 50 cents more to get more power, better mileage, and no ill effects on my classic cars and two stroke engines. The offset in gas mileage increasing 10% makes up for the price premium, IMO.
Josh Nixon Tucson Arizona, closest one on that map is like 60 miles away and is 100 octane avgas at an airport.
I've been using ethanol free gas. I get better performance and higher gas mileage after I switched. It costs about $.15 more per gallon but the trade off is worth it.
You get higher gas mileage because ethanol has a lower caloric value than gasoline.
The Brazilians have plenty of rain forest to burn to plant sugar cane, and less motor vehicles in their geographically huge country than there are in the San Francisco Bay Area alone.
You should have tuned your engine. it is easy. Just go to a garage with a dyno.
E85 is way better for making power than 93 octane gasoline. Of course you loose a few mpgs but you are able to advance timing substantially or increase boost in a forced induction vehicle without detonation occurring like it would in 93oct.
@ You can find places that sell it away from the cities. Farm equipment that uses gasoline doesn't like ethanol so it's quite available in more rural areas. www.pure-gas.org/maps
"I want the government to give me money and mandate my product", so we can have a fair playing field? 🧐
Instead, there should be an end to petroleum company subsidies,. But the deep state loves their foreign wars and plentiful fuel for their war machinery.
Just one facet of their consumption: "We have the best trained military aviators in the world. Sluuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuurp."
Classic response from environmentalists... "Woops!"
Liar.
@@dizzywow prove him wrong dumbass
@@supermariobro55 prove him right
@@supermariobro55 What can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence. Much like the original comment.
I can give some respect to somebody who can say that further research showed they were wrong.
But ethanol makes my car go BRRRRRRRR BRAP BRAP BRAP
Exactly what I’m thinking while watching this... “yea but e85 tune tho”
Lol completely different 😅
“But I like race car fuel”
@@solitude2871 yes but cars moter will have a much shorter life span ethanol burns yr engine out quicker. In the long run yr engine will lose its power.
I drive a 5.7 lt v8 and no way in hell would i put cheap ethanol fuel in it
@@letsbehonest4221 some cars are built to handle ethanol fuel, because your 5.7 motor is a little bit older it was not built to handle ethanol based fuel, but newer cars such as a 2018+ mustang gt are built to handle ethanol
Gotta love how straightforward Stossel is, even to politicians' faces.
WE NEED MORE OIL.
I used E85 which is 85 percent Ethanol and 15 percent regular gas for my mustang and its been great I been using it for two years ,it makes the the drivibility more smoother and I it gave me a little more of extra horses In my opinion its the best fuel I every used.
How is your Mustang running 2 years later?
Sulfuric acid enjoy
I say we make alcohol motors, that way when you break down you can at least get a buzz by drinking some gas. Fun fact: Ford model A could run off of moonshine, more stills than gas stations at the time
Sugar is much safer than corn syrup, and tastes better !
I use ethanol in my race motorcycle. If I didn't, I'd be spending $14/gal in race gas. Now I spend $1.80/gal in E85. All I did was change the injectors to ones that flow 30% more, and fine tune on a dyno. I even get more power now than I did on a 50/50 blend of C110/93 gas.
I fully support ethanol fuel. Hell, you can make it yourself very easily. Get off of foreign dependencies and put money back into our own economy.
DFW_Motorrad you sir are a woke man
Fun fact: back in 1995 I brought a 1964 Impala that had sat for 10+ years I actually got it running with the same gasoline that had been in it all those years. Fast forward to 2013 I brought a 2003 focus that had been sitting for a few years when I dropped the gas tank to see why it wouldn’t start the fuel pump actually was ate up from the ethanol turning into a acid!!!!!
yep and even new cars are having failed fuel pumps and some cause fatal accidents. The replace not repair law
An Ethanol plant was just shut down for polluting air and water in Eastern Nebraska..
So since the US is the largest crude oil producer in the world today and most of our oil imports are sourced from Canada with less than 15-20% coming from the Middle East, why are we STILL subsidizing ethanol?!
I just use it for horse power ._.
God I love John! He is the best and most entertaining interviewer!
He is a great guy.
Conagra and Monsanto thank you for huge profits on corn seed. How many people actually use E85 but that wasn't enough they put the damn stuff in all the gas and the real problems started as it ate fuel tanks, fuel lines, carburetors and mileage went down. Now if you don't drive every day you have to use an additive or you car may not get you home.
A typical government mandate that not only costs you at the gas station but at the grocery store too. Thanks for saving us! The mega business farms with thousands of acres are seeing the profit while small farms are dying. So besides ethanol subsidies they get farm subsidies.
@@nobodynever7884 haha cheaper, cleaner? wtf are you smoking.. i live in the midwest where its every where. it's not any cheaper nor efficient. it causes more damage to vehicles. attracts pests. raises food prices. etc
@@nobodynever7884 'More trips to the station though'. Good, now you're catching on, you are paying more fuel taxes!
You wouldn't have that problem with a flex fuel.
And before you open your mouth, yes I drive one. And from my experience, as long as you don't drive like a lunatic with your foot to the floor all the damn time, your fuel mileage shouldn't suffer that much.
Christ what car has had a carburetor in the last 30 years.
Just Fucking Jewsanto liars fucking the market with DNC
"I drink the stuff, I live it up!"
"Daddy needs his juice!"
You can't spell american dream w/o Eric Andre
you think I could get a little squirt?
@@HandledToaster2 ...of what?
@@unclestarwarssatchmo9848 of gas?
What about the sweet drippings that come off it?
"We're ready to stand on our own feet"
But then immediately says they're not actually ready to stand on their own feet.
Just that they'd be able to stand on their feet as long as they're standing on your back.
Subsidized corn laced engine killer.
John Stossel is doing a heroic job.
I really like the way John thinks
But calling that worm a Parasite was just Amazing- Priceless : ]
And they didn't even talk about the damage to all the engines from corrosion of all the carburetors and fuel systems.
$2 for a gallon of milk and only six years ago?!
Damn!!! Stossel kickin' Ass.
More policies, more regulations! You can do it! Comunism and Wenezuela soon in America!
Faust272 1 year ago I would have agreed with that statement, but now it seems we are not going that way. Thank God...
cornunism
It's literally becoming unsustainable!
And the Jews will laugh all the way to the bank.
Ethanol is good for the car industry but not for the consumer. Ethanol damages alot of the engine parts of your car. Ethanol can corrode rubber, plastic and many parts inside the engine of the car.
The way they try to sell you this is by telling you that you're "helping the environment," which is not true. The gas companies are pumping 10 to 15% Ethanol into your gasoline and yet the prices are still the same or even higher.
At the end of the day the consumer has to cough up more money for a new engine or a new car, which is good for the car industry but definitely not good for the environment nor the pocket of the consumer.
If your car is designed for ethanol, it will get more horsepower.
@@alexdicero4989 it only gets more power if it's tuned to get more power, typical flex fuel vehicles are not designed to take advantage of ethenols performance qualities. Power is just not relevant for stock vehicles as they could put out far more power with gasoline as well with aftermarket tuning and likely will make less power with the ethenol do to not having high enough volume fuel pump and injectors.
But I like E85 in my Evo when I vape
Ikr E85 makes POWER
@@danbjuliano626 makes more power and requires nearly 2x more than gas at same power level...
I make my own ethanol in my own solar still and nobody's giving me any subsidy. I produce all the fuel I need to power my cars, tractor, lawn mower, etc. I grow my own corn so other than the modest labor for planting, harvesting, and distilling, it's basically free fuel for me.
There's nothing more satisfying than hearing a gov't employee being called a parasite.
I like ethanol for dragsters
It's fine to run ethanol in a dragster, their engines aren't supposed to last longer than a few passes anyways. Street driven classic cars....not so much...
I think you mean methanol lmfao its alcohol ethanol is just water
@@offroaddemon1991 😂😂 you're an idiot ethonal is alcohol and its a common fuel for racing , plenty race cars run e85 all over the world.
@@joshn938 you just need braided fuel lines and a good tune and you get even more power than than regular gasoline
Don schell wow, am in awe of your stupidity, please educate yourself.
3:19 GAWD ALMIGHTY. This is reporting.
E85 is a pretty good race fuel for the money as long as your set up to run it..so I hope they keep making it...and make it more available
All this maybe true, some of it perhaps not. But there is no doubt about it, if you tube your sports car to run on E85 (85% ethanol) you'll freaking love it.
I grew up on a farm in Illinois, in Zip Code 61376. Between 1995 - 2019 the "farmers" in this zip code received $63,636,727 in farm subsidies. That's just one zip code in the Midwest. A tiny portion of the entire farm land in the U.S. Between 1995-2020, farmers in the entire U.S. received $424.4 Billion in subsidies.
So what? You do know that farmers grow more things than ethanol crops, don't you? You do know that the government provides many more subsidies to the oil and coal industry than to the ethanol industry (which is zero), don't you? And you do know that the oil industry is an profitable industry, don't you? And you must know that petroleum oil fuels have been responsible for the deaths of millions of Americans, don't you?
I'm here because his mustache is majestic.
its a national treasure
I didn't think it was possible to lower my opinion of Wesley Clarke. I was wrong
Fred Stiening oh yes you can. He’s just another political parasite like Mc Caine turned out to be. Both of them nothing but whores . I’d use the word puppet but in their cases whore is far better a description.
Mechanic here. ethanol provides better performance and compression ratios than regular gasoline. Short of methanol, ethanol make for a great race fuel.
aarocka11 big gov here, you want a job?
We aren't talking about straight ethanol fuel. We are talking about gasoline that "may contain up to 10% ethanol."
Why not use methanol which can more easily be made from agricultural waste so we are still subsidizing corn while avoiding diverting our food source.
We aren't talking about racing. We are talking about grocery getters. Ethanol gums up small engine fuel systems.
True choice at the gas station would be the ability to buy ethanol free gas, but because of government regulations force oil companies to have a certain percentage of ethanol across all the gas they make, they can't offer ethanol free gas in most places.
The biggest problem is that ethanol is cause food prices to go since more farmland is being used for ethanol
Drive to a market garden and not to grocer.
Brazil uses by 37 years Ethanol, and also E100..., and now Ethanol Is Worse Than Gasoline, lol.
Stairway to heaven Bohemian rhapsody doesn't matter if it comes from corn or sugar, that's like saying moonshine is alcohol because it comes from corn but vodka isn't because it comes from potatoes, you sir, are a moron.
Where did he said Brazil used corn Ethanol?
There is a difference between ethanol cars in Brazil that run on ethanol and my flex-fuel car that "can" run on ethanol. And I'm not sure that if it "can" run on ethanol, that I want to be putting it in my gas tank. Nobody said ethanol was suddenly not alright to power a car. People like myself are concerned about the damage it might do to a flex-fuel car based on trouble other people have had.
Brazil uses sugar cane to produce their ethanol. A ridiculously low yield crop for that purpose. The only reason it's economically feasible is because fuel production is an ancillary byproduct of sugar production.
Isn't this ethanol created by the husk or byproduct of sugar cane? That shouldn't disrupt the market and drive food prices up. Seems like creating energy from a byproduct is not a bad idea, no?
Keep it coming stossel!
CAN'T FROST THE STOSS!
it doesn't matter if it's good or bad... it's all about making the rich richer, regardless of the consequences...
I'm no expert but why not invest more in coal liquifaction to make synthetic oil. I mean to find or improve the efficiency of the current methods that only billion dollar companies can produce.
I use ethanol in my van… I pay 50% of what gasoline cars pay now. 😂
been putting e85 through my 2010 5.3L gm for 6 years. 2020 I'm paying 75 cents less a gallon vs regular gas. No issues as of yet
That's good because your engine is built for it and it's not the 10% forced into regular fuel for cars that don't need it.
First video that's monetized.. binge watching the amazing John Stossel. Ok, TH-cam. Edit: vote Libertarian! 🇺🇸🇺🇸✌
Ethanol is good for boost.
not really
Really...you obviously don't know about turbo's!
It’s good for racing!
yeah e85 is awesome for cars with forced induction.
Raven James must not know what you're talking an about
I don't understand how one man, Mr. John Stossel has more balls to stand up to the man than all of us. If we would ALL just demand what is right, it would be done!
Affirmative if it's so great, why does it need tax payers money. Why don't they let buyers choose.
Ethanol: it was originally done for environmental reasons for energy production and cars.
Wind and Solar: same basic thing... we keep finding the environmental costs of those 2... I feel like this cycle will never end...
Nuclear=Best solution
@@ultimategotea that's what I keep saying but the Dems and Green's say shut all nuclear power plants down...
Ethanol as a fuel is garbage, it produces lower MPG, and ruins engine components. As for GMO corn it’s not fit for human or animal consumption.
so wait, I can't feel good about running my race-car on E96 anymore... that's a fukin bummer...
That's where it belongs, not eating up what little fuel economy I have in my Tahoe. Good luck racing.
Ethanol make my car go VROOOOM tehee
SAVE OUR CORN FOR WHISKY AND BEER !!!
Greens: "THE SCIENCE IS SETTLED! Don't ever question us!"
Greens: "Ethanol will help save us from the evils of gasoline!"
Greens: "Oops! Now that we studied it we realize it is worse."
Greens: "Ban ethanol! THE SCIENCE IS SETTLED!"
Is it any wonder that environmentalists require a heavy amount of celebrity endorsements to get people to swallow their 💩?
Do you *really* believe that environmentalists have that kind of power? Money talks in government, a protest sign doesn't.
The real reason for ethanol being subsidized is more complex. America was producing less than half the amount of oil we currently produce. We were heavily reliant on OPEC. Ethanol was a desperate attempt to reduce a foreign oil vulnerability. There were also business interests at play and geopolitical shifts in energy consumption.
1:35 There's always a quirky remark he makes that makes me laugh on every segment.
I love what you do John.
you know getting 3mpg less cost more for Americans So in 100,000 miles
5000 gallons on 10% 20MPG
4348 gallons on 0% 23MPG so yeah it is WASTING MORE FUEL AND GIVING MONEY AWAY OUTSIDE THE US
the additional cost of gas is $2,216.14 for the consumer @$3.399/gallon
$16,995 is what it will cost you to drive 100,000 miles @ 20mpg with E10
E0 would be close to the same cost $14,778.85 cost to drive 100,000 miles.. OIl componay stand to profit big time because they know ethanol gives them bigger profits because over all you still have to buy an additional 632 gallons of gas over 100,000 miles that is an additional 5.5 tonnes of CO2 that math checks out
SO THE MATTER IS ETHANOL CREATES MORE POLLUTION...
Ethanol is made from sugar, so why would they use corn with very low sugar instead of sugar beets which are mostly sugar, grow faster, and take up less space unless they wanted ethenol to fail so they could push for silly electric cars instead.
But I just love huffing it up until my body needs the oxygen.
I use E85 in my F150 and I love it. The new F150s are high compression engines which need minimum 91 octane, and 93 for the best result. Ethanol is 105-115 octane. It burns super clean (you can stick your finger in the tail pipe and it'll come out clean), it deposits no carbon, burns cool, is wayyyy cheaper then premium (more than a dollar cheaper).
I love how Stossel just rips into people.
Lol love stossel but he looks at it like ethanol itself is the problem instead of how it’s handled. Organic waste recycling isn’t terribly efficient due to poor investment in the programs, and government got hyped about ethanol so instead of building infrastructure to sustainably manufacture it from waste they farm corn for it, it would be considered a green resource if we reused food scraps to make it
The USA 🇺🇸 must be 100% energy INDEPENDENT. IF USA buys crude oil from middle east, how MUCH in Military COST.
Yes modern engine can run on E-85. They can run on E-100, the fuel pump will fail. The 15% gasoline is the lubricate the injectors & fuel pump bearings. Also help start in cold weather. How do I know??? I work at a government research lab. Also change engine oil at 3,000 miles, Not 10,000 miles.
The crap ideas of the green Democrats with Ethanol and solar energy crap.
It was bipartisan. Were run by incompetent people
Nuclear is the way
Solar isn't stupid. I can get some panels on my roof and if they produce enough I even make money off the electric companies.
@@1035TheIce Thorium
Solar is good. Could also be used along hydrogen.
Reaks havoc on carburetors, leave it sitting in your motorcycles and youre gonna have a shitty time cleaning them all
So does any gas or diesel.
E85 is great for flex fuel Subarus! It's equivalent to about 100 octane, which allows tuners to crank up the boost and get way more horsepower. Without the subsidies, availability never would have grown. It's even more important in Western States that only get crap 91 octane.
Mike Thompson And American cars too
@@theshield1613Subaru is a Japanese Brand assembled in the USA.
i eat more then i drive and im single, so wherewouldit be saving a family of 5 with the cost of food rising so fast
Ethanol isn’t the problem it’s, once again, the government
3:25 Stossel's face here always gets me.
Algae fuel had a promising future but was killed off.
Like my grandfather always said, follow the money.
what about the mpg drop using ethanol fuels over gasoline
Pure ethanol has about 30% less energy than pure gasoline. That means E10 gets you 3% fewer mpg, E15 gets 5.5% fewer, E85 gets 24.5% fewer. Assuming the engine itself is as efficient using E.
@@briant7265 inaccurate as Ethanol improves the way it burns to burn more complete. which is why E10 reduces mileage by 1,5% compared to E5 according to ADAC testing in germany. As a result pollution is reduced by 0,9%, furthermore ethanol produced pollutes 60% less than making gasoline.
@@nocensorship8092 what about all the energy it takes to produce this ethanol
Anyone else here after hearing Bidens fuel plan?
Yup.
🤣😂🤣😂 Ethanol is now bad for the environment.... our SCIENCE was flawed!!!
Listen to the scientists!
Okay. But should we follow what they said last week, what they're saying now or what they're going to say next week?
I'm not buying stossel's argument here. Yes higher food prices will happen, but so what? that is reasonable. The prices will be higher for HFCS products and meat. Those are relatively unhealthy luxuries.
The reason subsidies for ethanol exist is because ethanol isn't something that will naturally be switched to until _far more_ fossil fuel gets pulled out of the ground and burned into the atmosphere.
In other words the environment is getting ruined for every bit of time that is spent not _proactively_ working on alternatives to fossil fuels.
Also note that with regards to the thing about environment on the end, he never explains _how_ corn ethanol is worse. It's not cut and try that it is worse, and is actually quite unlikely. It is certainly a debated topic, but the the _facts_ is that fossil fuels introduce new carbon into the atmosphere. Growing and burning plant matter just works with what's _already_ been in the atmospheric cycle. It doesn't need to be more energy efficient (and it certainly isn't) to be a viable fuel.
Look at the alternative, which would be hydrogen. Hydrogen is _negative_ efficiency, but still a viable fuel for reducing CO2 emissions. It just requires a renewable energy as a source rather than burning more coal.
Ethanol production hasn't been subsidized since 2012
I wish I had a John Stossel (team) or Tim Pool here in Sweden.
AND, it's less efficient than gasoline, so you have to fill up with it more often. Are you really saving money?
It’s not less efficient than gasoline, it is less energy dense so you will see lower mpg than with gasoline
@@joecool4656 isn’t that being less efficient 🥴
@@Thedar561 No it is just less time efficient. You still use the same amount of energy in the end to get the same job done, but a larger volume of fuel
@@joecool4656, more volume of ethanol to do what gasoline does? That would make it LESS EFFICIENT.
@@lynngatrell7965 No it is less energy dense
It takes 5 times as much ethanol to produce the same amount of energy as gasoline. Fun fact.
Great job John. Government agent hates when anybody unmask them.
Thank you John Stossel for your amazing videos. Keep them going!!!