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- Seeing various commentary on this video I will state the following:This is a power movement for me (I don't care who designed it and for what intent). I allow cheating in this movement and work on adding weight to the bar, if you want to be strict be strict on the isolation movements and other accessory lifts this is just my personal philosophy on this and that's that. If you look at the video titled
"Military Press with progress pics" the very recent one I uploaded, you can see my back pictures and I do not think it's a weak point by any means. Thus I accept some cheating on here to add weight to the bar.
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Agree it's very, very hard to do heavy Pendlay rows with strict form. That's about as strict as you're going to get with that kind of weight.
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Not really, the form isn’t that strict. The video I linked is strict.
POOR PIRANO th-cam.com/video/ZlRrIsoDpKg/w-d-xo.html A pendlay row isn’t meant to be “explosive”, you can hear it from the person who created them.
POOR PIRANO That isn’t what explosive means. Explosive means building power from the floor by doing them strictly. Doing them strictly isn’t cheating by heaving them off the floor. Onto the next question now.
POOR PIRANO Pendlay rows are an exercise designed specifically by Glen Pendlay to build mid and upper strength to better facilitate the power lifts and Olympic lifts. They’re not done by cheating the weight at the top of the movement. Drop the weight 20 pounds and do them properly, leave your ego and arrogance at the door of any gym you enter.
POOR PIRANO If you want to do a bodybuilding do whatever you want. But that isn’t and will never be a Pendlay row, and doesn’t achieve anywhere near the same thing a Pendlay row is designed to achieve.
thats actually decently good form for that amount of weight. Much respect man!
The form is important and after that comes the weight. His form is useless and aint a pendlay row anymore.
@@metinotje youre about to talk shit about a guy rowing 3 plates after 7 years
@@metinotje ratioed
Solid-form for 315! I love how the ground trembling shakes the camera and the enormous, 'Ka-THUNK' that rings out from it as you drop the weight back down for the next rep. It sounds so satisfying
This is actually very strict form lol. As a matter of fact more strict than any keyboardcritic would ever have with a half of the weight done in the video,
Agreed, stronk/10
No.
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@Johnny Sins Exactly. Actually very few people know how to properly pendlay row.
@Johnny Sins He also shouldn't need to squat thrust into the reps. It's better to drop it to 225 and be stationary as it should be. The squat-thrust assist defeats the purpose of the ROW which is meant to work the back!
Lift starts at 1:14
Don't care what the critique is on form. This is some good power off the floor.
Have fun not progressing and working more biceps than back trying to keep your torso completely strict.
This guy has great form rowing heavy ass weight.
majungasaurusaaaa ikr. Dudes big and strong as hell said it’s ok not to be perfectly straight. Just don’t overdo do it.
lmao at all these keyboard warriors saying his form is shit when most of them can't even deadlift this weight. It's pathetic.
Whether you can deadlift that weight or not is irrelevant to a statement about his form.
@@omalley498 Yes and no. Strength reflects experience in most cases, you can't really claim to know better than the dude who is rowing more than you can deadlift.
@@ottovuorio382 You cant really claim that he can when you dont know bruh
@@omalley498 I wasn't talking about you spesifically.
@jon arthur wheres the video its been quite a while haha
i dont care what these guys say, this is great form. theyre just haters because of the strenght you have!! youre awsomme!
Goals: Rowing so heavy that it sounds like a train pulling out from the station
heavy weight. straight back. bar touching belly every rep...EXCELLENT LIFT!!!
Impressive lift man. As for the people talking about controlling the weight down, I doubt they know this is a Pendlay row and not a BB style row. The only issue I see is related to rom at the very top (but its 300+ lbs so its understandable) the other slight issue is the slight torso lift (strict pendlay is lumbar in neutral at 90 degree angle) but again, it's 300+lbs so WOW!!!
I will say this once and once only...
I dare any of you to lift 315lbs on the Barbell Row with so called perfect form!
When the weight starts to get really heavy some form WILL be sacrificed because it is IMPOSSIBLE to lift the weight otherwise...this is beyond science, its common sense.
The body is designed to work as a WHOLE, so when the weight gets heavy on any exercise this will become obvious.
Only with lighter weights can "perfect form" be kept constant.
This is not to say that form is not a consideration of course it is but "perfect" will NEVER apply when the weight becomes heavy.
Never.
I never said form isn't a consideration but if you'd had any experience lifting heavy you'd get my point. While 50KG might be heavier than 30KG (Inc. Bar) but its not HEAVY (at least his/her BW)..understand?
So my point still rings true.
Have you seen CT Fletchers curl of 225lbs?..again people will say "look at his form" and yet again my point earlier stands true..its TWO HUNDRED AND TWENTY FIVE POUNDS...using an exercise that is supposed to help isolate the Bicep, a relatively small muscle..
..use your common sense please.
did a quick search, 325, th-cam.com/video/4_M37vdSLX8/w-d-xo.htmlm23s cant get much better
Awesome. Just started lifting and this is one of my favorite lifts. Love the earthquake everytime the weight drops xD
Well done. BRB full of comments of kids who don't know wtf a pendlay row is.
Guys that are criticizing his form , who thinks about form when you are in a fight or doing any sporting activity? Guy is showing good strength
The last Gaga in the background is Nastalgic
have to love the internet form coaches. these are some of the strictest rows i've seen on youtube, with a monstrous amount of weight, yet they are still complaining.
Thanks! Been hitting this movement more and more always trying to tighten up any form breaks.
I'm going to try to break my PR on this lift today. 220 for 5 reps. My bodyweight is 162ish pounds.
Thx for the motivation!
Very good video description, I agree totally. Explosive back movements with heavy weight are the best back, trap and lat builder. I trained at an Olympic gym for 6 months and my upper back really blew up.
Absolutely AWESOME
Very very nice!!! He's rowing about 80% of my deadlift. 😂
Jesus Christ bet the rush to the head was insane afterwards honestly it an insane buzz you get after a pendalay that is as good as your going to see a decent strict pandalay row
Perfect form, great strength Im going to switch to this row, the general bent over row takes a lot on my lower back and I start us in momentum so this would be a great alternative
Kane Harrison what do you mean by general bent over ?
+Kane Harrison It's a solid move and a good replacement for standard barbell rows, which often end up being some kind of weird, herky jerky trap exercise. Only draw back is there's not a lot of time under tension. It has to be done fairly explosively, especially on the positive part of the rep, and form can rapidly start breaking down after about 5 reps.
So maybe the move is lacking a little bit in the hypertrophy department, but the strength gains do transfer to other lifts. After all, you're using essentially the same setup as for a deadlift, with the hand placement of a bench press.
Bent rows on the bench press and restart every rep.....in 1 yr I grew a lot strength just from that workout....check out Anabolic Aliens """rhomboids, delts, medium traps, 3 workouts"" and its the 3rd workout ...it avoids tension in your lower back...
Pendalay good exercise to build bench press strength sqaut and deadlift should mainly hit your body weight maximum as hinder deadlift but it very similar to the stifleg deadlift
Pendlay rows, done heavy, and done well.
This is an impressive weight for a bent over row. His "cheat" is perfectly acceptable. He's not heaving the back up. Nor is he performing the "rest the bar on the quads" row, which I've seen all too often.
What a surprise, none of the critics have a single video of themselves lifting anything.
Before you critique his form ask yourself this: Can you even deadlift that?
Impressive dude. I came in thinking "oh this dudes trying to lift too much weight its probably gonna be shit" but for 315 that was very good form. keep it up.
The form was awesome. I did these last night, my form felt good. But I don't know if it looked this good. Most people call others out on form because they hate the fact they can't move half of the weight they are watching on TH-cam.
This dude is a fucking man beast. Well done.
Thanks man! I am still learning the execution of the lift. I think with practice my form should improve but there will be some body movement I am just being realistic here. In the article I think Glenn Pendlay is off his rocker to say stuff like "I did rows with Coleman once, actually, and I was far stronger than he was." or that he uses 425lbs on this strict. Strange how these guys cannot afford 100 dollar camera. I saw few vids here guys doing 315-500 but they all got body movement.
lol, form check. Absolute beast
This exercise if for your back, hits more mid back/trap thickness. Idea here is to explode up while retaining that back arch and not moving at the hips or knees. I feel less lat involvement here as well, mostly mid back. A lot of old school guys, old strongmen would use this movement but they didn't call it "Pendlay Row". But everyone calls it that and know what it is so = Pendlay Row for easy understanding.
Dude that form was solid. Pendlays were always meant to be explosive.
Looked good to me. It's hard to avoid body movement with heavy weights.
Nik,
Pretty good form, poundage considered. I agree with you: once you reach a certain weight, I think it's silly to expect NO knee movement and/or NO back elevation.
Btw, I think this is the most weight I've seen anyone use on Penrows. I did 275x6 awhile back; now I've gotta try to catch you :-)
Rippetoe talks about this movement as barbell row in this books. each rep starts and ends on the floor and hip muscles are used to initially accelerate the weight up. It is an excellent exercise for building explosive power..
The earth is trembling while you lifting! Keep it going!
Your form is perfect. You are strong as shit
Hey i've got a question about form, when you guys do this does it usually work the back of your shoulders? and do you feel any stress on your lower back? yesterday i did very light weight to check the form, and my inner back is sore, but i remember my shoulders and lower back were bothering me. tips?
Personally I will say these hit mid back and traps more. I noticed that mid back and trap area got thicker after doing these in progressive manner over 6-7 months.
That's massive dude. I didn't see any glaring form problems to be honest. Only thing I could recommend would be trying to do it without straps for HEUG GRIPS
Awesome form!
Can I ask a possibly ignorant question? Is there a way to do this program and NOT get fat on the recommended 3k calories and day. This program also recommends starting with an empty barbell and adding about 2.5kg each workout, which MEANS you won't be working hard enough to burn any fat... it's kinda flawed.
If you have been lifting a while you can start with just under your 5 rep max. Don't want to get fat eating 3000 calories a day ? Don't eat 3000 calories a day.
"won't be working hard enough to burn any fat" .... what the hell are you talking about? You dont burn the fat, your body does it itself.. You can burn fat sitting on the couch. All that matters is how much you eat. Your body will do the burning for you.
Yeah... that made no sense at all.
Michael L Strength training isn't for burning fat. It's hard to build muscle without also gaining fat. You have to eat above your maintenance to build strength or mass. If you're looking to lose weight, lifting heavy will help you do that, because it's extremely taxing to spend 40-60 minutes in the gym lifting as heavy as you can. Go try it and see. But again, this is a strength training program and to support a weekly increase in strength you need a caloric surplus. If you do the program as intended, you'll gain fat as well as strength. You can then do a cut while still lifting. Your strength gains will stall or go in reverse a little while you lose weight, but you should be able to maintain most of it.
Should it hit the chest and not belly ?
He's not a men he's a machine
if it results in you improving in what you are trying to do then you are doing them right.
Bro's rowing 315 for 5 when I am here deadlifting it for 4!
Massive strength
AWESOME form. Anybody else find they lift more weight on pendlays vs conventional?
of course dude u rest at the bottom.
My stupid gym only has hexagonal plates...makes doing a pendlay row difficult, to the point where I just don't do them. :(Form looked pretty good to me though considering the weight being used.
perfect, nothing more to say.
i don't believe its possible to be anymore strict than that with that type of weight. i am currently doing 245 lbs pendlay rows and my form is similar to this. i keep my spine as neutral as possible by bringing my butt to a lower position (i have long torso, and short legs), and I try to keep the upward motion from getting out of hand.
Impressive... most impressive!
awesome vid. thanks for sharing. I really love this exercise but find it hard to maintain good form when I bump up the weight to 4-6 rep range. do you have any suggestions? thanks.
damn i was expecting a half deadlift from all these comments on form. seemed pretty clean to me. i like to train with much stricter form but to each his own.
What about if you have the grip strength and can actually lift the weight but are using straps purely to prevent callus from happening on your hand?
I had been dead lifting without any strap/wrap/grip/glove but as I started lifting heavier more calluses started appearing and my hands would throb. With straps or gloves these are prevented. My gym has no chalk facilities.
it looked Ok but if i recall right, in 5x5 he says you should use wider grip and move the bar to your upper ribs part like almost in where you bench to - pretty much like an upside benchpress thinking about it
Inspirational
this lift is stupidly hard especially at this weight; all things considered, this form is good as hell
@TopGunner what's your bodyweight in this video ?
So earthquakes are allowed in your gym?
Is it easier when you let the bar down, or do you lose the momentum and becomes harder??
What's the purpose of letting the bar down??
This row is for Olympic weightlifting. It helps the body be ready for explosive lift and help make the pulling for snatch and clean easier by making you stronger. The reason for the drop is to mimic Olympic lifts which you don't bring down slowly
This demonstrates just how tough of a movement it is. This guy definitely reps 315 on bench yet it's a very challenging load for pendlays. Most guys his size would stroke that ego and do some ugly 405 bentover "rows"
That is pretty impressive. Nice form on those.
@007cascader
Wow knee jerk much? I was just asking what the belt's for as I'm fairly new to weightlifting.
Jus watched ‘Hey you! What song are you listening? New York’ and the last guy was listening to just dance and then I open this video and it’s playing in the gym. Wtf 😳
I agree with the straps thing. If you don't have the grip strength to lift that weight, you can't actually lift that weight.
The "no no's" you mentioned only apply to Bent-Over Rows. Pendlay rows utilize those no no's for extra power.
It's awesome how the camera shakes when he drops the weight.
Still doing it with 275 for 6 reps. Will try doing 315 the next month when everything goes as planned. Propper execution on that pendlays...
What's the belt for?
Lot of old time strongmen did this movement and called it Barbell Rows and I remember reading Doug Hepburn used Barbell Rows with each rep deloaded on the ground. While in a way I agree with you to keep it simple stupid on the other hand this method has it's perks. Usually it's not guys themselves that are naming exercises it's the people who see it done and name it after that person. Matt Kroc calls his videos Dumbell Rows it's people who termed it Kroc Rows etc. It's easier to id shit this way
Google "How to Perform The Pendlay Row with Correct Technique" there is entire article about it. Problem is in the demo video the guy only uses 135lbs everyone and their grandmother will have good form with 135, but what happens when you actually go for your working set? I am more interested in ones form when that person is doing a working set or going for a PR. I think some body English is inevitable otherwise you holding back. I didn't see 1 video 315-405lb where there is zero body English.
Came here to critic the form when I saw the weight he lifted.
I was disappointed. Actually solid form, especially when considering the weight and low rep.
Nice job :)
what shoes are those?
The point of a Pendley row is that the hips and knees are static. If they're not, you're not doing PR. This is why it's extremely difficult to do PRs with a heavy weight, like 315. It's rare to see people do 225 with good form. That jerk at the top of the movement indicates that the weight is too heavy for full range of motion. A PR with a jerk is not full-range of motion, the same way squatting to less than parallel is not a full-range of motion. It's not a question of policing form, it's a question of meeting the requirements of the exercise. I understand that for you it's a "power movement". But if you make a post with "form check" in the title, people will check your form according to the strict definition of a PR.
+Martin Krzywinski Got something better to show us??? I seriously doubt you'd be able to do 315.lbs on a Bent-Over Barbell Row EVER in your entire-life according to your own personal standards and definition :P Those last few-inches in the Bent-Over Row are lifted mostly with your Trap-muscles, as your Lats stop being very-effective after your elbows hit the 45-degree mark, and if you try to keep lifting it in the same slow-manner, and at the same tempo-speed as you did to start-it then you will drastically INCREASE the Risk/Chances of injury in your shoulder-girdle. That's the Key-Reason WHY this Lift MUST be done 'Explosively' when working with serious-weights, which can make it look like a Veteran-Lifter is, 'Cheating' at the top of his lift to many a Newbie/Arm-Chair, would-be Lifter like yourself :P
+MD B I'm merely pointing out that the movement being shown is no longer a Pendley row. And if you put (form check) in the video title, people will check your form :) No, I can't do a proper Pendley row with more than about 185 on the bar. But this fact doesn't make what we're watching more of a Pendley row.
Martin Krzywinski what are you talking about. The only way to get full rom is through doing cheat rows. It's impossible to get full rom not cheating
Martin Krzywinski And I'm sure you could do much better. If you have no credential please don't critique others
Martin Krzywinski If you could row more than your bodyweight you'd know you kind of have to do that to compensate.
I agree with some of the others -- get rid of the wraps so you can also develop grip strength to match your pulling strength (otherwise, your grip will never be a strong as what you can pull). Belt can stay, I guess, if you feel you might tweak your back (I've thrown my back out a few times doing bent rows, so I understand the need). Just keep the belt low and keep your core tight.
cool as shit that the camera shakes when you sit it down, great form.
OOOOOH looks like we got us a Le troll on or hands
BEAST
I'm a noob to the Pendlay row, but in the video that got me into the lift (Pendlay explaining his method of the row), it said that while the lower back is left out of usual bent over rows where people have back at 45' angle and pull into their lower abs, that his method should activate the entire back. I know your back is supposed to stay parallel to the ground, so the lower back shouldn't be activated in that sense, but would you mind explaining what you mean?
yo that form is great for a pendlay row nuff said
For what is this exersice?
gread job!
greetz
Not sure why you would name your video with "form check" in the caption and then go on the add that you don't care about cheating in your form? Its bad form, flat out not as bad as some, worse than others. Its too heavy. Calling it a "power movement" doesn't justify cheating. If your body and choice though. So jerk away.
Can you answer a question for me? What's it like being a badass?
Forms not bad, decent retraction of scapula - if he's working his back muscles to/near failure it shouldn't matter if he's using his legs a little bit, it's made to be a functional movement.
Good advice for novices. But when the weight gets this heavy it is really hard for those smaller stabilizer muscles to keep up and keep everything neat and tight. I say for this weight your form is good.
It looks pretty clean.
I've been checking all over TH-cam for expample vids for Pendlay Rows because I want to incorporate this into my workout as well. Lots of variations and I'm still not sure what "the" true form is. I don't know if I'd wanna do this explosive or non-explosive. Any suggestions of vids I might of missed? Thanks boss!
Wonder how his pendlay rows are going now
Looks great.
@fataslin I would say that the main difference about pendlay rows is that you're supposed to not only let the weight touch the floor but fully let your muscles reset like in a deadlift.
oh my that was too good!
what a beast...
That’s pretty good bro for 315. 6 years later, are you still training?
just got into these about a month ago. world of fuckin difference.
I can do that on cheat rows and this guy is doing it pendley, I need to go back to the gym
Thanks man. I got my belt from EliteFTS it's 13mm one, I also have 13mm one from Inzer when I was less fat. The Inzer one is much better craftsmanship and quality.