I had the worst experience with XTD, granted this was probably 6-7 years ago. Bought a stage 2 kit and the pressure plate failed in about 30 miles. I don't dump the clutch or bang gears either. Throw out bearing was also starting to fail, pilot bearing was the wrong size.
Late reply but very smooth..no chatter and engaged very consistent. 4 yrs later I'm on same clutch. Going b series early next year and I'm rolling the stg 2 again with 9lb flywheel.
there are more springs yes, but that actually makes the clutch weaker. There is less material between the springs and it is more prone to fail. There are less riviots compared to the exedy pressure plate as well, and that also makes it weaker and more prone to flex. the oem clutch pressure plate is balanced, and the xtd is not, this causes vibration and long-term damage to the crank and drivetrain components. more springs doesn't mean stiffer, it just means it has different design. the springs are there to absorb drivetrain shock, not necessarily for easier engagement. the engagement is easier or harder based on the friction material on the disk. organic material slips or has less "grip", compared to copper or metalic.
subtledriver K you can go on and on breaking down the details but i know people running XTD clutches with no issues and beating the crap out of them. They really hold up
Lol for something who it seams knows a bit about clutches it’s funny that your don’t know that even the really expensive clutches also have six springs 😂
@@dahiphopog6271 many hundreds of clutch installs and interactions with many vehicles and layouts has thought me a few things. Design, setup, quality and usage all matters. And a clutch is not something I wanna take chances on when my legs can get chopped off if something fails. 😂 anyways not here to argue, just to chat. Have a great day!
When it comes to being an aftermarket company, seems like all you have to do is make something that looks similar to the OEM. Exhausts for example. Just make a soda can.
hey bro I wanted to know if this brand of clutch is good it is cheaper than other brands that is why I ask if it can withstand any kind of treatment without any problem…..is for my Jetta gli I’m locking stage 3
Looks like the XTD clutch disk has a decent amount of copper composited into the organic carbon friction surface. It'd be good to know how many years of service it's good for. Ebay has an XTR stage 2 that looks exactly the same, and looks like it has similar specs but with Kevlar composited into the friction disk, but at $63 I'm hesitant to buy it. I don't want to drop the transmission again in the next few years haha. I just want something smooth enough for daily driving, but tough enough to handle a day at the track.
It does but if you would look on one of the videos to where I show it on the engine after a couple passes down the dragstrip they do seem to wear pretty quick but then again I was also putting it through so extremely tough paces
6 years later and I'm watching your video! How's the clutch holding up ? I've been looking at different clutches and not sure what to get. I got a 9th gen si fully stock for now
@@NITROKID98 okay, another question. When you installed it were you still using the stock flywheel or you upgraded that as well? And is the kit requires hondata to install it ? I've seen some other clutch kits and it says that hondata is required . Please help my man 🙏
I have a gti mk6, I use the car daily to my job, I dont race or go fast, sometimes in the highway but normally I go slow and easy. My clutch shakes my car a lot when in 1st gear only, in the rest of gears run good. When the engine is idle it sounds like a helicopter but when I press the clutch the chopper sound disappear. Question is, should I get a OEM, stage 2? On Ebay I saw clutch kits for 1k!!! And then I saw xtd stage 3 ceramic clutch kit for 190!!! I'm confuse why that insane price difference...idk
If you’re not looking to receive any performance out of the clutch I would definitely go OEM cause it does sounds like you’re having issues with your XTD
Xtd are made in China, oem clutch for gti is made in Germany. The 1k+ clutches you are looking at are likely high end performance ones. You can grab a luk clutch set (oem) off rock auto for about 300$. A stage 3 clutch of any sort will be trash for a daily driver
matthew jones I was debating on whether to go with a stage 3 or not I decided on the stage 2 I might wind up going with the stage three later on no more than they cost not like I would lose anything
i have stage 3 on k20a2 in civic ek. and this clutch slaps hard. its difficult to drive in 1 gear.. shakes all car,hard to drive easy.. not for street in my opinion. but its cheep and grab like crazy..
john wick iv got my xtd stage 3 with 9lb flywheel on my ek hatch DX its shakes when launch in first gear and honestly i now regret why i bought this xtd stage 3 with flywheel before i was running all OEM that car really launch good till all gears redline but this stage 3 i noticed when rev goes more then 4500 i felt car engine do have noise and not runs like before oem clutch and flywheel 😥
you left out the fact u dont pay rent and u probably did a 9500 rpm burnout the second u installed the clutch like every broke person thats kept at the bottom from their own poor decisions. Lack of common sense, discipline, parental raising, self control makes all yall buy cheap kits and then disrespect the brand when u do maniac nonsense and blame the brand for ur insane choices, like getting a stunt driving charge.
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I had the worst experience with XTD, granted this was probably 6-7 years ago. Bought a stage 2 kit and the pressure plate failed in about 30 miles. I don't dump the clutch or bang gears either. Throw out bearing was also starting to fail, pilot bearing was the wrong size.
Been on my xtd stg 2 since Oct 2016. Love it and still pops hard when you need it or smooth when you cruise. No complaints.
Hey man, how's the daily driving compared to OEM?
Yeah how's the daily driving more so I mean stop and go traffic where a lot of in and out clutch action is needed?
Chatter or smooth? Thanks man.
Late reply but very smooth..no chatter and engaged very consistent. 4 yrs later I'm on same clutch. Going b series early next year and I'm rolling the stg 2 again with 9lb flywheel.
Nice tutorial glad I watched this feeling good about my purchase can't wait to put it in
I've seen clutches that look just like this on Amazon but branded "EFT". I wonder if they're the same manufacturer.
there are more springs yes, but that actually makes the clutch weaker. There is less material between the springs and it is more prone to fail. There are less riviots compared to the exedy pressure plate as well, and that also makes it weaker and more prone to flex. the oem clutch pressure plate is balanced, and the xtd is not, this causes vibration and long-term damage to the crank and drivetrain components. more springs doesn't mean stiffer, it just means it has different design. the springs are there to absorb drivetrain shock, not necessarily for easier engagement. the engagement is easier or harder based on the friction material on the disk. organic material slips or has less "grip", compared to copper or metalic.
subtledriver
K you can go on and on breaking down the details but i know people running XTD clutches with no issues and beating the crap out of them. They really hold up
Lol for something who it seams knows a bit about clutches it’s funny that your don’t know that even the really expensive clutches also have six springs 😂
@@dahiphopog6271 many hundreds of clutch installs and interactions with many vehicles and layouts has thought me a few things. Design, setup, quality and usage all matters. And a clutch is not something I wanna take chances on when my legs can get chopped off if something fails. 😂 anyways not here to argue, just to chat. Have a great day!
Do y put still have the install instructions? I’m trying my ass off to find them.
Great description man, very detailed, and informative!
When it comes to being an aftermarket company, seems like all you have to do is make something that looks similar to the OEM.
Exhausts for example. Just make a soda can.
hey bro I wanted to know if this brand of clutch is good it is cheaper than other brands that is why I ask if it can withstand any kind of treatment without any problem…..is for my Jetta gli I’m locking stage 3
I’ve been running one xtd for about 6 months. Gone 6200 miles so far. Just throw out bearing always makes riddling noise. But clutch is good 🤷🏼♂️
Looks like the XTD clutch disk has a decent amount of copper composited into the organic carbon friction surface. It'd be good to know how many years of service it's good for. Ebay has an XTR stage 2 that looks exactly the same, and looks like it has similar specs but with Kevlar composited into the friction disk, but at $63 I'm hesitant to buy it. I don't want to drop the transmission again in the next few years haha. I just want something smooth enough for daily driving, but tough enough to handle a day at the track.
It does but if you would look on one of the videos to where I show it on the engine after a couple passes down the dragstrip they do seem to wear pretty quick but then again I was also putting it through so extremely tough paces
6 years later and I'm watching your video! How's the clutch holding up ? I've been looking at different clutches and not sure what to get. I got a 9th gen si fully stock for now
Huge thanks for your supports!! I no longer have the clutch due to selling the car it was in, but I never had an issue when I was using it.
@@NITROKID98 okay, another question. When you installed it were you still using the stock flywheel or you upgraded that as well? And is the kit requires hondata to install it ? I've seen some other clutch kits and it says that hondata is required . Please help my man 🙏
I’ve use them on both without any issue just make sure your fly wheels in good shape and that it doesn’t have any hotspots on it
@@NITROKID98 okay great 👍 would I need to replace my master cylinder too?
Just put a stage 3 in my 04 VW golf and so far I'm liking it
exedy om clutch, soft and easy to drive.. i am very happy for every day use recomanded!!
I have a gti mk6, I use the car daily to my job, I dont race or go fast, sometimes in the highway but normally I go slow and easy. My clutch shakes my car a lot when in 1st gear only, in the rest of gears run good. When the engine is idle it sounds like a helicopter but when I press the clutch the chopper sound disappear. Question is, should I get a OEM, stage 2? On Ebay I saw clutch kits for 1k!!! And then I saw xtd stage 3 ceramic clutch kit for 190!!! I'm confuse why that insane price difference...idk
If you’re not looking to receive any performance out of the clutch I would definitely go OEM cause it does sounds like you’re having issues with your XTD
Xtd are made in China, oem clutch for gti is made in Germany. The 1k+ clutches you are looking at are likely high end performance ones. You can grab a luk clutch set (oem) off rock auto for about 300$. A stage 3 clutch of any sort will be trash for a daily driver
Hello! Sorry! Can you tell please for what model of Honda was first kit that you showed?? I have one and it's the same as yours. Thank youu!
94 civic with a d16 sohc
Hola Laura. Si necesitas ayuda con tu embrague avisame y te recomiendo algunos. 👍
nitrokid98, the word your looking for on that small bearing is a pilot bearing.
1998gst4611 yes as soon as I started videoing the word let left my brain lol
love the mitsubishi tattoo
matthew jones thanks I appreciate it buddy
Good video also I just got an xtd stage 3 clutch for my 00 civic.
matthew jones I was debating on whether to go with a stage 3 or not I decided on the stage 2 I might wind up going with the stage three later on no more than they cost not like I would lose anything
Exactly they are so cheap. And a honda transmission is nothing to take out anyway.
That ain't Mitsubishi tattoo. It's imperial japanese rising sun flag. Akin to Nazi flag
Cheap price on ebay.
Chose over the oem.
Well see how it treats me
i have stage 3 on k20a2 in civic ek. and this clutch slaps hard. its difficult to drive in 1 gear.. shakes all car,hard to drive easy.. not for street in my opinion. but its cheep and grab like crazy..
Yes i buy exedy om for k20a2.. next week i will see how good it is..
Yea.. no problem
still running good?
Did you get sprung or unsprung?
@@CherryGarage sorry for late.. exedy om k20 cluth drives like butter all good. Now up 20 xxx km.
Daily driver for rxa and opninions mu clutch just burnt out looking for a replacement
What is the feel of a xtd stage 3 on a basic Honda civic coupe dx body naturally separated with short cold air intake
john wick iv got my xtd stage 3 with 9lb flywheel on my ek hatch DX its shakes when launch in first gear and honestly i now regret why i bought this xtd stage 3 with flywheel before i was running all OEM that car really launch good till all gears redline but this stage 3 i noticed when rev goes more then 4500 i felt car engine do have noise and not runs like before oem clutch and flywheel 😥
That car is super underpowered for a performance clutch
im deciding weather i should get a stage 2 clutch for my integra should i get a xtd?
Adrian Sauceda after my experience with xtd I would say definitely go with them The Price is Right and the quality is there
I’m currently have one on my integra. I picked it up for 89bucks. It’s drive pretty decent. No problems yet
Just put a XTD Dual Friction Clutch in my 05 Acura Rsx Type S let’s see how long it lasts
Just ordered mine also. Let me kno how it goes
How'd It Go
@@rocky19811969 working pretty good so far.
Thanks man..I'm pushing some boost guess I may give it a try @Michaelwhite
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what brand is the factory clutch? exedy?
I believe but I’m not 💯 sure.
That Imperial Japanese Flag tattoo.
Nive vid bro!
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Just like the sticker, crap. Crap crap crap.
You get what you paid for. Cheap eBay junk, vs quality parts that cost more money for a reason.
Not realy
If you buy in auto parts
You have to pay
1 electricity fee
Ac fee
Labors fee
Insurance fee
That's whay you pay more in auto parts.
Used a Yonaka $40 clutch for 8 years under 7800rpm shifting 24/7
lmao K bud
@lospentecostalesdemoorsvil1217 parts stores sell trash clutches, too, lol. He is referring actual name brand clutch manufacturers 😊
Xtd/Xtr clutch kits suck. Had bad experiences on hondas with them
B P I've had no issues with mine. It seems rwd cars like them fwd hate them
I know someone running on a FWD 350+HP with no issues at all.
You probably installed wrong or didn't break it in well. Cuz other people had no issues including me on my s13
Never have I had issues on my xtd clutch must’ve been broken in wrong or installed wrong
you left out the fact u dont pay rent and u probably did a 9500 rpm burnout the second u installed the clutch like every broke person thats kept at the bottom from their own poor decisions. Lack of common sense, discipline, parental raising, self control makes all yall buy cheap kits and then disrespect the brand when u do maniac nonsense and blame the brand for ur insane choices, like getting a stunt driving charge.