Thank you for slapping me across the face with the literal truth about singing. It's not who I want to sound like. It's how I want to improve on what I already sound like. THAT'S real singing.
I am very glad to finally see someone make this kind of statement in a TH-cam video. It seems entirely too many (it had seemed all) of the "vocal gurus" wanted to pressure everybody into being a tenor if they were male - even "instruction"/"warmup" videos with "Baritone" in the title would go very quickly into hard selling developing head voice and "chord thinning" making the assumption that everybody wants to sing high (one of them actully saying words to that effect).
Very helpful. I started singing (and still usually sing) 'bass 2' in choirs but find I can also reach high-baritone or low-tenor notes, too, and sometimes switch to the 'bass 1' part. My natural speaking voice is quite low (probably described as bass-baritone).
THANKS SO MUCH FOR THIS!!! THIS IS OUTSTANDING! Actually, when I was 10, I had a teacher (my first one) who taught me the exercise of yawning. My memory of this is still vivid. 12 years have passed and I have been "contaminated" by other ineffective techniques, in the end. I feel more and more the need to go back to this yawning technique. But somehow I always forget about using it when I'm singing. Thanks for reminding me. I'll work on this.
I deal age to start a career is 25 years, earlier too dangerous... Opera study takes around 3 years after you've graduated vocal faculty. Plenty of time:)
Dear Franco I appriciate strongly not just for your valuable free lessons but also the intellectual and rational way you deliver them. I just have a serious question about the status of opera and generally classical singing in today's world.as you know the classical singing is far more difficult than other kinds but at the same time as I heard its financial outcome and social status is not good compared to its difficulties.Any clarification from you will be my pleasure.
Teacher will not help you to find your voice if you don't search for yourself also. It's a mutual work. Teacher should safely experiment with the students voice bringing out the best of him.If you have a particular ambition, like being a dramatic tenor, then the search becomes very narrow and prejudiced.
I'm feeling more confused now than before. Doing the exercise I naturally emit a C#4 and can go up or down a few notes (to an F in either direction) maintaining the fullness. I normally sing soprano, though. To even get the higher sounds I had to do some major postural adjustments, but once I did they came out equally resonant.
@aryankhah I don't know. It seems to me quite hard to find good teachers in the west too... but good luck. The best thing is probably if you audtion and can get a place at a famous music college
Thank you maestro for your videos! They are really informative and it is good to see an actual professional singer explaining how to sing (classical). I had a question. To find someone to teach you the classical style of singing, would it not be best to go to the local music school (in the Netherlands called "conservatorium") to find a teacher? After all, there are lot's of graduates that are trying to make it as a singer while in the meantime trying to find ways to make a living, no?
Mr Tenelli, you're colombian follower again! hehe. What can i do with my high range? above de A flat i can't sustain the note and my cords don't close properly. Can you post some breathing exercises, or fiatto. Hugs from Colombia.
I'm on a chorus but the teacher doesn't kwon what my register I been singing as a baritone but some times she tells I'm a dramatical-tenor and on my last warm up she told I'm a bass-baritone, Im really confuse
of course it has to do something with your psychology.You trust your teacher. May be your teacher is one of those who mostly praises you regardless to the reality, gives you countless bravos even when you clearly don't deserve them.Your teacher in that case is a confidence builder rather then a vocal teacher. That means that you are probably going to be an eternal student who is doing well in lessons but poorly in concerts. I'm just guessing:)
Mr Tenelli , I have had classes for many years with the same teacher. I had few problems and by greatest need I had to stop my studding, and I'm stopped for three years now. I too had to move from Brasil to Portugal, all these changes. Now I love to sing and want to but am lost, not really knowing how to start all again, with who and where. I need help and think you maybe can help me some how, advise me of who I should look for to make an a valuation of my voice and stage at this moment.
@orlando098 thnks very much for reply. the source of my question is that i am not resident in europ or us. and unfortunately i live in middle east and you may know that if i want to continue my singing careere I have to move to west because theres no opportunity for classical music especialy for singers.so I like to know soes it deserves or not?
@aryankhah It depends, if you are singing leading roles at the Met or something you will be rich and admired by any reasonable standards, and if you become a household name like Pavarotti then you will be similar to a famous rock star. Are you saying that everyone who sings rock or jazz etc, automatically becomes rich and famous?? You don't generally start learning an art form because you've planned out it will make you rich, but because it appeals to you and you have some basic talent for it
so okay so Pavaroti's natural placement was all the way up to High C and above? Or did he have to develop it? I lose that resonance at G4 does that mean I'm a natural baritone? Should I bother with higher notes or no? I don't understand
There are three kind of FONATIONS... the voice you use to talk...use be called chest voice. The falsetto... and the Head voice... The guy who uses the falsetto fonation more thaan others fonations, its easy for him to develop the Tenor voice in a clasical way. If you use to speak so high amd light, may be you feel very comfortable singing Notes like G4... etc...
it's not comfortable ..but I can do it and it resonates deeply ... the most I'm comfortable with actually singing consistently is E and below. those I can sing for hours anything above that I have a very limited number of times that I can hit it before it starts to feel tense... I have no idea what it means. I had a vocal instructor who told me I'm a baritone so G4 is pretty much the the threshold.
dear maestro and friends I have some questions and need help from you I am a tenor and all time try to mainain yawning position but when i approach the note A above middle C 1) my voice gets muffled 2)I lose brightnss and focuse 3) the sensation of buzzing moves back on palate and gets lost 4)my voice is pretty big but it lacks the ability of piercing through the distance... what is wrong with me?
Hello There I would like to thank you for all your videos. I take many notes and try to practice them While I am not with my Teacher. I do have a Question though, I am 23years old and have graduated with My B.M. I just recently made the switch from Baritone To Tenor and have had some issues as far as freedom of sound In the upper register. For Example Bb-C I have the notes and have sung a few arias with them. What are some Exercises I can do While I practice on my own?
I don't see anything wrong with developing a so-called "head voice" or falsetto, using other registers or resonators . All of those are God-given things as well, just no good for Apoggio. And in my knowledge so far, those techniques can produce beautiful voice and require skill and discipline to master. Why have this bias?
It is a bias for a certain type of tonal/auditory aesthetic preferred for Classical singing. The appoggio method is by far one of the best (if not THE best) way to achieve the most efficient and beautiful production of classical/opera. For other genres, it's totally fine to adjust your breath management strategy to whatever works best, especially if the demands are much lower. I personally find that appoggio concepts and the vocal tract shaping that goes with them work well for singing in full voice above the E4 area even in non-classical music.
Tenelli is a teacher very good, because he is a singer. Congratulations!!!
Thank you for slapping me across the face with the literal truth about singing. It's not who I want to sound like. It's how I want to improve on what I already sound like. THAT'S real singing.
I am very glad to finally see someone make this kind of statement in a TH-cam video. It seems entirely too many (it had seemed all) of the "vocal gurus" wanted to pressure everybody into being a tenor if they were male - even "instruction"/"warmup" videos with "Baritone" in the title would go very quickly into hard selling developing head voice and "chord thinning" making the assumption that everybody wants to sing high (one of them actully saying words to that effect).
I feel the freedom in my lessons but not at home. Your advice would be greatly appreciated.
Very helpful. I started singing (and still usually sing) 'bass 2' in choirs but find I can also reach high-baritone or low-tenor notes, too, and sometimes switch to the 'bass 1' part. My natural speaking voice is quite low (probably described as bass-baritone).
THANKS SO MUCH FOR THIS!!!
THIS IS OUTSTANDING!
Actually, when I was 10, I had a teacher (my first one) who taught me the exercise of yawning. My memory of this is still vivid. 12 years have passed and I have been "contaminated" by other ineffective techniques, in the end. I feel more and more the need to go back to this yawning technique. But somehow I always forget about using it when I'm singing.
Thanks for reminding me. I'll work on this.
wow the acoustics in there are great
I deal age to start a career is 25 years, earlier too dangerous...
Opera study takes around 3 years after you've graduated vocal faculty.
Plenty of time:)
Do you recommend any voice teachers that will teach this natural techinque for singing, Mr. Tenelli?
Dear Franco
I appriciate strongly not just for your valuable free lessons but also the intellectual and rational way you deliver them. I just have a serious question about the status of opera and generally classical singing in today's world.as you know the classical singing is far more difficult than other kinds but at the same time as I heard its financial outcome and social status is not good compared to its difficulties.Any clarification from you will be my pleasure.
Teacher will not help you to find your voice if you don't search for yourself also.
It's a mutual work. Teacher should safely experiment with the students voice bringing out the best of him.If you have a particular ambition, like being a dramatic tenor, then the search becomes very narrow and prejudiced.
Very helpful, maestro.
I'm feeling more confused now than before. Doing the exercise I naturally emit a C#4 and can go up or down a few notes (to an F in either direction) maintaining the fullness. I normally sing soprano, though. To even get the higher sounds I had to do some major postural adjustments, but once I did they came out equally resonant.
@aryankhah
I don't know. It seems to me quite hard to find good teachers in the west too... but good luck. The best thing is probably if you audtion and can get a place at a famous music college
Thank you maestro for your videos! They are really informative and it is good to see an actual professional singer explaining how to sing (classical).
I had a question. To find someone to teach you the classical style of singing, would it not be best to go to the local music school (in the Netherlands called "conservatorium") to find a teacher? After all, there are lot's of graduates that are trying to make it as a singer while in the meantime trying to find ways to make a living, no?
RIP Franco!
Mr Tenelli, you're colombian follower again! hehe. What can i do with my high range? above de A flat i can't sustain the note and my cords don't close properly. Can you post some breathing exercises, or fiatto. Hugs from Colombia.
sei un grande maestro !!
I'm on a chorus but the teacher doesn't kwon what my register I been singing as a baritone but some times she tells I'm a dramatical-tenor and on my last warm up she told I'm a bass-baritone, Im really confuse
of course it has to do something with your psychology.You trust your teacher. May be your teacher is one of those who mostly praises you regardless to the reality, gives you countless bravos even when you clearly don't deserve them.Your teacher in that case is a confidence builder rather then a vocal teacher. That means that you are probably going to be an eternal student who is doing well in lessons but poorly in concerts. I'm just guessing:)
Any books on appoggio to recommend ?
Mr Tenelli , I have had classes for many years with the same teacher. I had few problems and by greatest need I had to stop my studding, and I'm stopped for three years now. I too had to move from Brasil to Portugal, all these changes. Now I love to sing and want to but am lost, not really knowing how to start all again, with who and where. I need help and think you maybe can help me some how, advise me of who I should look for to make an a valuation of my voice and stage at this moment.
@orlando098
thnks very much for reply. the source of my question is that i am not resident in europ or us. and unfortunately i live in middle east and you may know that if i want to continue my singing careere I have to move to west because theres no opportunity for classical music especialy for singers.so I like to know soes it deserves or not?
wonderful video. ;) very true.
@montrubio
I'm not surprised. You should try and take some lessons with a good private teacher who can spend more time exploring your voice with you
@aryankhah
It depends, if you are singing leading roles at the Met or something you will be rich and admired by any reasonable standards, and if you become a household name like Pavarotti then you will be similar to a famous rock star. Are you saying that everyone who sings rock or jazz etc, automatically becomes rich and famous?? You don't generally start learning an art form because you've planned out it will make you rich, but because it appeals to you and you have some basic talent for it
so okay so Pavaroti's natural placement was all the way up to High C and above? Or did he have to develop it? I lose that resonance at G4 does that mean I'm a natural baritone? Should I bother with higher notes or no? I don't understand
There are three kind of FONATIONS...
the voice you use to talk...use be called chest voice.
The falsetto...
and the Head voice...
The guy who uses the falsetto fonation more thaan others fonations, its easy for him to develop the Tenor voice in a clasical way.
If you use to speak so high amd light, may be you feel very comfortable singing Notes like G4...
etc...
it's not comfortable ..but I can do it and it resonates deeply ... the most I'm comfortable with actually singing consistently is E and below. those I can sing for hours anything above that I have a very limited number of times that I can hit it before it starts to feel tense... I have no idea what it means. I had a vocal instructor who told me I'm a baritone so G4 is pretty much the the threshold.
dear maestro and friends
I have some questions and need help from you
I am a tenor and all time try to mainain yawning position but when i approach the note A above middle C 1) my voice gets muffled 2)I lose brightnss and focuse 3) the sensation of buzzing moves back on palate and gets lost 4)my voice is pretty big but it lacks the ability of piercing through the distance... what is wrong with me?
Already 13 years for your message... But may i ask you if you fixed that problem? Apparently i have the same problem...
@@hovareq6044 thanks for asking. yes I finally understood the problem and it is solved now.
yoda hologram.
Hello There I would like to thank you for all your videos. I take many notes and try to practice them While I am not with my Teacher. I do have a Question though, I am 23years old and have graduated with My B.M. I just recently made the switch from Baritone To Tenor and have had some issues as far as freedom of sound In the upper register. For Example Bb-C I have the notes and have sung a few arias with them. What are some Exercises I can do While I practice on my own?
Okay, not AS full at either F. And that space between the lower notes and the upper is an unholy mess.
I don't see anything wrong with developing a so-called "head voice" or falsetto, using other registers or resonators . All of those are God-given things as well, just no good for Apoggio. And in my knowledge so far, those techniques can produce beautiful voice and require skill and discipline to master. Why have this bias?
It is a bias for a certain type of tonal/auditory aesthetic preferred for Classical singing. The appoggio method is by far one of the best (if not THE best) way to achieve the most efficient and beautiful production of classical/opera. For other genres, it's totally fine to adjust your breath management strategy to whatever works best, especially if the demands are much lower. I personally find that appoggio concepts and the vocal tract shaping that goes with them work well for singing in full voice above the E4 area even in non-classical music.