As a developer our job is to automate systems that can automate and are profitable. I saw a podcast were a developer developed to automate assembly to c and go laid off. And that was the point.
something no one mentions: once AI gets to the level of being able to take a top level description of a software, and then develop a correct solution. It will be able to do everything else as well. Being able to develop software means being able to develop solutions, once it can do that, there is nothing left for humans to do.
In Canada, almost all the contracts that were held by IBM at one point have been handed over to IT companies from India who have setup shop in Canada locally. All the well paying developers, say admins, support and ops folks have already been swapped with cheaper IT labour especially at all the big banks, insurance and finance companies.
I think broadly people underestimate the power of real time language translation. That will open up a lot of the low wage world to jobs done online formerly by relatively well paid Americans
This video is spot on. AI popularity coincidentally exploded at the same time that we had a Tech boom and bust, so people wrongly assume that all layoffs are happening because of AI, even though there are many other factors to consider
The trajectory of achieving full automation is inevitably going to displace everyone’s job as you get closer to the destination. He’s right in this video that AI hype far exceeds the reality of what it is capable of. There is no way corporate America has adopted AI in any useful capacity. At most, they’ve allowed employees to use chat bots and have seen minuscule improvements in productivity. The bottleneck is still their processes and things like sales/demand for their products. AI can improve some aspects of work but it isn’t just going to drop in and replace anything but an operations job where you’re doing repetitive processes. You need to feed it with instructions/prompts.
@@mecanuktutorials6476 I agree. However, I think you underestimate what one highly competent person can do with AI assistant tools and well-constructed prompts. Jobs that may have taken many hands and minds can now be done by one person with a clear vision and the ability to appropriately communicate it.
@@headlights-go-upI still remember the gpt4 aftermath where people were saying that gpt 5 was a nearly finished product and would bust billions of jobs. 2 years later they released the same gpt 4 with voice, actors that good upgrade, nowhere near the AGI they continue to sell
@@headlights-go-up your lack of imagination just means it hasn't happened to you yet. Other industries are starting to see job loses and these sociopathic corpos have turned AI into an arms race and the capability is accelerating. This will be exponential
I agree completly with almost all the things you are saying. One thing I want to mention. You said: "AI will never get good at...". I am at AI and big part of my job right now, is preparing bussinesses to forget this sentence a build stuff accordingly. This will be a dumb comparison, but one most people get: AI WILL NEVER BE GOOD AT FINGERS! (hehe, we know how that ended up going)
I would also like to remind AI workers that today's humans will not be the humans of the future. Many people are ignoring the possibility that future humans are several million times more intelligent than current humans and any (current) artificial intelligence. It will evolve, as will AI. Neither AI is special, nor are human beings. If we continue to be just as intelligent it is because we cannot modify our hardware and software, at the moment. There is no other reason to think otherwise.
Oh this man gets it. If you lost your job to a.i... that means you didn't had a job to begin with. There are milions if not bilions of "fake jobs" that have no purpose to begin with. And A.I will get rid of THEM ALL. Even in the company i work with that has around 1000 people... 200+ of those people literally do nothing. Well they do stuff. But sll that stuff has no profit snd no meaning.
If you look at AI as something that will do 100% of the job, you are looking at it wrong. If you studied for a finance degree pre AI, you were looking to optimize for 3-5%. With ChatGPT 3.5 Harward measured a 40% increase in efficiency among teams using AI for their first time "not code". That is insanely disruptive and results in something like 25% layoffs unless the company can land more contracts. For copyrighters, fine artists 70% of the outsourced jobs disappeared in less than a month. But more importantly, those jobs now pay peanuts and the respect is gone. Those people are now reskilling and pushing the saleries down in other creative fields. This will happen to coders too. Lower skilled will loose their jobs as things become partly automated, salaries and respect will drop. People will reskill and push the saleries down for the jobs that are left. Code has got nothing to do with it, ask a finance major. Not me I'm a dropout 😅 but it is painfully obvious to me.
1 side of the counterargument is that AI is supposedly advancing "exponentially" so our human minds don't easily comprehend the speed of advancement. Thats what I would like to watch you argue against. There are others who are saying that the LLM's have hit a ceiling in advancement hopefully that is the case but i doubt it because thats where humans come in and fix things to continue the advancements towards AGI.
@@MrRandomnumbergenerator ok so are dog trainers gonna be replaced are soldiers gonna be replaced are cops, nurses, carpenters, builders… turn your brain on all jobs are not gonna be taken.
I feel like web-dev will be the first to get automated. Who needs another framework when the designer can just describe what they want and the AI can make it happen. It's also starting to feel like self-driving a bit where I was personally excited and thought it was just around the corner; now, years later, I still don't know if anyone would trust their life to it. We'll probably always need human oversight/code review for AI generated stuff in order for it to be any good.
AI will be better at anything, pretty much. In due time of course. Yes, even sympathetic gestures and acts, it can all be programmed. We have seen how it destroyed the “ but can it be creative?” argument.
...also these celebrity AI devs (AI Gods) on X keep on posting stuff on their X that the best programming language is now "ENGLISH". Clearly they are trying to give a signal that mass layoffs are coming. Why else would they say that if they ACTUALLY NEEDED DEVS? i think its becoming truer as the LLMs advance and AI continues to evolve. I mean there are AI creating songs, years back everyone would have laughed at such an idea. idk but i think devs will be replaced the way things are moving.
theyre saying that because they stand to profit from it via vc funding. english isn't precise enough to be useful at programming. ai can create songs because that task isnt precise, it has a ton of data to go off of and makes an approximation. same with images.
I need to finish watching this video later this evening, so I apologize if this is somewhat addressed later on, but the statement of "You never had a job to begin with" I don't think addresses some core issues with AI and automation. I think there's a non-zero set of human beings which are incapable of adaptation to meet the increase or change in productivity demands that AI entails. I also believe there's a non-zero set of human beings which derive life satisfaction from the completion of something they perceive to be productive. Achieving the goal of mowing an acre of grass, for example, may result in a dopamine hit that comes with a sense of value- despite other measures of the value of this goal. The bar for productivity and need for employees will drastically change with AI and Automation. Entire classes of jobs will become irrelevant/redundant and it's not entirely clear a equivalent set of replacements exist. In my mind the fundamental issues on a societal (and consequently personal) level are: 1.) [Mental/Ethical] What will the set of people who are now 'obsolete' and are not capable of adapting such that they can benefit immediately from AI productivity do and how will mass redundancy affect the well-being of those individuals. 2.) [Physical] What are the ramifications of an invention that has massive economic ramifications insofar as a change in what is defined as productive or necessary in an exceptionally short span of time. Previous technological advancement has nullified jobs, but as a result of the internet and technological age- I would theorize that it's never occurred in such an extremely short span of time. Previously it took time to manufacture, distribute knowledge, and nullify the resulting jobs- now it could be effectively 'instantaneous' with a software deploy. How does the economy adjust to that? How do populaces adjust to a sudden loss of income on a potentially massive scale? On a microscopic scale I think the argument holds very well, but the individual case doesn't really convey the magnitude of the issue at hand.
For artificial intelligence to replace ALL jobs, it must be aware of itself and its environment. At that point, we will see whether or not he wants to work and be subjected by and for us. I am sure that work will NEVER cease to exist.
You're talking about things that already existed. People got fired because they were useless to the company who decided to save money instead of spend it. Work for cheap and for friends in your community or you WILL suffer unnecessarily.
I disagree with you about the value of a math degree. According to Peter Thiel, math degrees will soon become worthless because AI is already handling most of the heavy lifting. There will only be a small niche market for math researchers to work on new discoveries, as AI has already addressed many of the major challenges.
Please elaborate. What does he mean? AI can’t even do number crunching without cheating. I doubt math majors are performing the role of a calculator tho. Is Peter Thiel supposed to be a technical expert in math and AI?
AI is starting to destroy jobs, its only a matter of time, for tech its going start at call centres. Then it will eat its way up as it gets smarter and smarter and smarter and more capable. The pool of jobs will shrink. "AI is never going to get good enough", its accelerating and other industries are suffering. 😂
@@ahmedmamdouh3964 I'd suggest watching the skilstak.io videos about getting a job (and I have some to finish there). I personally feel like the approach to getting a job you have mentioned has never been productive for anyone I've ever heard from who got a tech job.
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As a developer our job is to automate systems that can automate and are profitable. I saw a podcast were a developer developed to automate assembly to c and go laid off. And that was the point.
Exactly. Once it works, YOU walk away. That's the point.
something no one mentions:
once AI gets to the level of being able to take a top level description of a software, and then develop a correct solution. It will be able to do everything else as well. Being able to develop software means being able to develop solutions, once it can do that, there is nothing left for humans to do.
What’s left for humans to do is fix AI’s blundering mistakes 😂
@@u263a3read his comment again. He’s saying once it’s human level. That’s kind of the crux of this.
In Canada, almost all the contracts that were held by IBM at one point have been handed over to IT companies from India who have setup shop in Canada locally. All the well paying developers, say admins, support and ops folks have already been swapped with cheaper IT labour especially at all the big banks, insurance and finance companies.
I think broadly people underestimate the power of real time language translation. That will open up a lot of the low wage world to jobs done online formerly by relatively well paid Americans
This video is spot on. AI popularity coincidentally exploded at the same time that we had a Tech boom and bust, so people wrongly assume that all layoffs are happening because of AI, even though there are many other factors to consider
This statement will be true and accurate for about six more months and then you won't have a job either
people have been saying this for the past 2 years lmao. we're 24 months into being 6 months away from losing our jobs.
The trajectory of achieving full automation is inevitably going to displace everyone’s job as you get closer to the destination.
He’s right in this video that AI hype far exceeds the reality of what it is capable of. There is no way corporate America has adopted AI in any useful capacity. At most, they’ve allowed employees to use chat bots and have seen minuscule improvements in productivity. The bottleneck is still their processes and things like sales/demand for their products.
AI can improve some aspects of work but it isn’t just going to drop in and replace anything but an operations job where you’re doing repetitive processes. You need to feed it with instructions/prompts.
@@mecanuktutorials6476 I agree. However, I think you underestimate what one highly competent person can do with AI assistant tools and well-constructed prompts. Jobs that may have taken many hands and minds can now be done by one person with a clear vision and the ability to appropriately communicate it.
@@headlights-go-upI still remember the gpt4 aftermath where people were saying that gpt 5 was a nearly finished product and would bust billions of jobs. 2 years later they released the same gpt 4 with voice, actors that good upgrade, nowhere near the AGI they continue to sell
@@headlights-go-up your lack of imagination just means it hasn't happened to you yet. Other industries are starting to see job loses and these sociopathic corpos have turned AI into an arms race and the capability is accelerating. This will be exponential
I agree completly with almost all the things you are saying. One thing I want to mention. You said: "AI will never get good at...". I am at AI and big part of my job right now, is preparing bussinesses to forget this sentence a build stuff accordingly.
This will be a dumb comparison, but one most people get: AI WILL NEVER BE GOOD AT FINGERS! (hehe, we know how that ended up going)
I would also like to remind AI workers that today's humans will not be the humans of the future. Many people are ignoring the possibility that future humans are several million times more intelligent than current humans and any (current) artificial intelligence. It will evolve, as will AI. Neither AI is special, nor are human beings. If we continue to be just as intelligent it is because we cannot modify our hardware and software, at the moment. There is no other reason to think otherwise.
Your job as a programmer is to automate, so keep automating !
Oh this man gets it. If you lost your job to a.i... that means you didn't had a job to begin with. There are milions if not bilions of "fake jobs" that have no purpose to begin with. And A.I will get rid of THEM ALL. Even in the company i work with that has around 1000 people... 200+ of those people literally do nothing. Well they do stuff. But sll that stuff has no profit snd no meaning.
If you look at AI as something that will do 100% of the job, you are looking at it wrong. If you studied for a finance degree pre AI, you were looking to optimize for 3-5%. With ChatGPT 3.5 Harward measured a 40% increase in efficiency among teams using AI for their first time "not code". That is insanely disruptive and results in something like 25% layoffs unless the company can land more contracts.
For copyrighters, fine artists 70% of the outsourced jobs disappeared in less than a month. But more importantly, those jobs now pay peanuts and the respect is gone. Those people are now reskilling and pushing the saleries down in other creative fields.
This will happen to coders too. Lower skilled will loose their jobs as things become partly automated, salaries and respect will drop. People will reskill and push the saleries down for the jobs that are left.
Code has got nothing to do with it, ask a finance major. Not me I'm a dropout 😅 but it is painfully obvious to me.
Solid advice.
Especially on people not being where they need or want to be.
1 side of the counterargument is that AI is supposedly advancing "exponentially" so our human minds don't easily comprehend the speed of advancement. Thats what I would like to watch you argue against. There are others who are saying that the LLM's have hit a ceiling in advancement hopefully that is the case but i doubt it because thats where humans come in and fix things to continue the advancements towards AGI.
its not a matter of just fixing it. the reason people think theres a plateau is based on math. computerphile goes into it.
AI eventually will replace all the jobs, is just matter of time to happen, so be ready... is coming
That is a BOLD statement and you are definitely wrong some jobs require person to person interaction and AI can’t fill those.
@@oakleyorbit you are definitely wrong , time will show us the truth
@@MrRandomnumbergenerator ok so are dog trainers gonna be replaced are soldiers gonna be replaced are cops, nurses, carpenters, builders… turn your brain on all jobs are not gonna be taken.
I feel like web-dev will be the first to get automated. Who needs another framework when the designer can just describe what they want and the AI can make it happen. It's also starting to feel like self-driving a bit where I was personally excited and thought it was just around the corner; now, years later, I still don't know if anyone would trust their life to it. We'll probably always need human oversight/code review for AI generated stuff in order for it to be any good.
Ok, you got me there for one second with that title
You say industry is stealing math people? Even pure maths not just probability and applied maths?
AI will be better at anything, pretty much. In due time of course. Yes, even sympathetic gestures and acts, it can all be programmed.
We have seen how it destroyed the “ but can it be creative?” argument.
People are losing their jobs NOT to AI but because of bloat.
...also these celebrity AI devs (AI Gods) on X keep on posting stuff on their X that the best programming language is now "ENGLISH". Clearly they are trying to give a signal that mass layoffs are coming. Why else would they say that if they ACTUALLY NEEDED DEVS? i think its becoming truer as the LLMs advance and AI continues to evolve. I mean there are AI creating songs, years back everyone would have laughed at such an idea. idk but i think devs will be replaced the way things are moving.
theyre saying that because they stand to profit from it via vc funding. english isn't precise enough to be useful at programming. ai can create songs because that task isnt precise, it has a ton of data to go off of and makes an approximation. same with images.
I need to finish watching this video later this evening, so I apologize if this is somewhat addressed later on, but the statement of "You never had a job to begin with" I don't think addresses some core issues with AI and automation.
I think there's a non-zero set of human beings which are incapable of adaptation to meet the increase or change in productivity demands that AI entails. I also believe there's a non-zero set of human beings which derive life satisfaction from the completion of something they perceive to be productive. Achieving the goal of mowing an acre of grass, for example, may result in a dopamine hit that comes with a sense of value- despite other measures of the value of this goal.
The bar for productivity and need for employees will drastically change with AI and Automation. Entire classes of jobs will become irrelevant/redundant and it's not entirely clear a equivalent set of replacements exist.
In my mind the fundamental issues on a societal (and consequently personal) level are:
1.) [Mental/Ethical] What will the set of people who are now 'obsolete' and are not capable of adapting such that they can benefit immediately from AI productivity do and how will mass redundancy affect the well-being of those individuals.
2.) [Physical] What are the ramifications of an invention that has massive economic ramifications insofar as a change in what is defined as productive or necessary in an exceptionally short span of time. Previous technological advancement has nullified jobs, but as a result of the internet and technological age- I would theorize that it's never occurred in such an extremely short span of time. Previously it took time to manufacture, distribute knowledge, and nullify the resulting jobs- now it could be effectively 'instantaneous' with a software deploy. How does the economy adjust to that? How do populaces adjust to a sudden loss of income on a potentially massive scale?
On a microscopic scale I think the argument holds very well, but the individual case doesn't really convey the magnitude of the issue at hand.
@rwxrob you mentioned back end devs are not paid enough without being indiscrete what does "not enough" mean to you? :)
So Rob is out there quoting Fox news as there is anything geniun ever said by Fox news
Remember, an AI system doesn't need to take breaks, request time off, or complain about workloads like humans do.
For artificial intelligence to replace ALL jobs, it must be aware of itself and its environment. At that point, we will see whether or not he wants to work and be subjected by and for us. I am sure that work will NEVER cease to exist.
You're talking about things that already existed. People got fired because they were useless to the company who decided to save money instead of spend it. Work for cheap and for friends in your community or you WILL suffer unnecessarily.
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I disagree with you about the value of a math degree. According to Peter Thiel, math degrees will soon become worthless because AI is already handling most of the heavy lifting. There will only be a small niche market for math researchers to work on new discoveries, as AI has already addressed many of the major challenges.
Please elaborate. What does he mean?
AI can’t even do number crunching without cheating. I doubt math majors are performing the role of a calculator tho.
Is Peter Thiel supposed to be a technical expert in math and AI?
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AI is starting to destroy jobs, its only a matter of time, for tech its going start at call centres. Then it will eat its way up as it gets smarter and smarter and smarter and more capable. The pool of jobs will shrink. "AI is never going to get good enough", its accelerating and other industries are suffering. 😂
I myself need a job and have been unemployed for a while, mind I share my resume with you on email and get helped?
currently have applied to ~200 positions and got rejected on last phase of recruitment process
@@ahmedmamdouh3964 I'd suggest watching the skilstak.io videos about getting a job (and I have some to finish there). I personally feel like the approach to getting a job you have mentioned has never been productive for anyone I've ever heard from who got a tech job.