Look up Romet. Polish brand, they sell in UK as well apparently. I picked up Huragan 1, aluminum frame with beautiful smooth welds, carbon fork, Claris (HT2 cranks), rim brakes. Takes 28mm tires, prefectly capable bike. Paid €480 for it.
Note that the Giant Contend has Claris gear, not 105, as can be seen in both your video and Giant's web site. The bike is still a great value but you had me amazed for a moment.
This year I switched from Cannondale CAAD 13 105 (mechanical 2x11) to Cannondale SuperSix EVO 3 105 (electronic 2x12). I'll be honest. I don't feel as good on the new better carbon bike as I did on the previous aluminum bike.
Still featuring mostly the big brands that offer poor value for money (looking at you, Trek, Cannondale, and Specialized). Cube, on the other hand, offers a 105 12-speed aluminum bike for just EUR 1,399, which would be the best deal for any beginner. Things get ridiculous when you consider that Cube offers a full carbon road bike (even with carbon wheels!) with Ultegra Di2 for EUR 3,000 - basically the same price as the mechanical aluminum Allez Sprint.
Emonda ALR is the king and competes with carbon. If only Specialized would bring back the rim brake Allez with proper rack mounts. Giant Contend is the best rim brake one with internally routes cables.
@@Millicente @MiataBRG I'd go for a top 10 rim brake bikes of all time, new or second-hand. And if I had to buy a new road bike today, I would buy a second hand rim brake mechanical groupset one 100% of the time for any price point under 6.000€. Anything over that would make me perhaps consider the disc brake / electronic groupset offerings of nowadays, but nothing under those price tags.
@@11robotics I got a used Wilier Cento frame from eBay, put 11sp mechanical rim brake Ultegra on it with Shimano RS wheels. $1,500 all in (I had parts from other bikes). It's a smoking hot sub 18 lb. race bike.
I bought the Rose reveal AL: 28 mm tires, Shimano 105 ( Ultegra and Di2 group was possible as well) and integrated cables. Bike weigh is 8.8 Kgr. The Rose is amazing and a very good looking bike, I recommend it a lot. Great value for money.
Why would any amateur rider need anything more than an aluminum frame, rim brakes and a 105 group set with 28mm tires? I’d like to try 30 mm but they wont fit
Carbon is more comfortable, that's why. Although, with 30mm tires at low pressure, and good seatpost and saddle, these modern aluminum frames can be just fine, too.
I have been enjoying my road bike since this june and my choice was very close to edr af, a-105 set carraro 62 race, and it cost me a second hand for 700 euros. weight is 9.5 kgs with bottle cages.
You guys do the same video every year with the same brands same aluminium bikes. Maybe check out what other oppurtinites you got with other brands. Cube Attain SLX aluminium road bike with shimano 105 mechanical 2x12 and hydro brakes for 1400€. Crazy that speci and trek can only offer a claris with mech disc brakes at this price point.
None of these get close to the Allez S-Works still. One of my favourite bikes in my collection. With Dura Ace 9000, Carbon finishing kit and Fulcrum Racing Quattro carbon wheels, weights in around 7kg (maybe less) and plenty of space for 28mm Corsa tyres. I think 2014 was peak aluminium. But all of these ones here would make a great choice in today’s market.
Nice! I'm now considering getting that one with SRAM XPLR 13 speed. I wish they would smooth out the weldings though, like they did 15 years ago. My old Trek 2.1 has much smoother weldings.
the last on allez sprint , £3k for an aluminium racing bike how many people who buy that are going to be able to utilise the extra 41 seconds speed ( the measuremet is subjective to say the least . and by the time i got here i felt you were out of touch with the puplic , after all last years "are bikes too expensive " videos aside from that ill take the canyon or the kinesis (lovely paint job , nice equipment )
Only dropped in out of curiosity but felt compelled to give a heads up………… to put all the utter hype here into perspective……… grossly over priced, sub equipped and ridiculous weights 9kg -10kg and that’s all that’s on offer here. Go second hand, do your homework, if you don’t already know find out ………get a nice 7.5 kg alloy ride at a fraction of this stuff.
the treck for 2k is a scam tbh same goes for the cannondale, both are a scam PS for people who isn't aware, most carbon fiber bikes with 105 group set and alloy bars, set post etc which is the usual thing for those prices, weight 9-10kg so no, alloy bikes aren'theavier than plastic ones unless u spend +5k with full plastic components and lighter group sets which is never worth. Another reference, there are steel bikes that weight 6.8kg at high end specs so.... f*ck plastic bikes.
I’m sorry but this video is not for 2025! Alloy bikes are not great these days… so if you want comfort then steel is better or ti. Saying comfort on an alloy bike better than carbon is a lie! Not maybe the endurance ones are slightly more than carbon race bikes but any carbon endurance bike will be more comfy. It’s still alloy at the end of the day and alloy has never been the most comfy. All the other ‘performance’ bikes are 2/3 years old and not up to spec for 2025. Alloy is heavy and less responsive than carbon. You can’t change that no matter how much marketing bs they say. If you want to value then get a Chinese bike. Similar prices and better specs and performance. If you crash then you can get carbon repaired as there’s plenty of places these days to do it. Having a aero bike for £3k is not hard these days. I’d even say unless you are willing to spend £12/15k on a bike you are better off get a Chinese bike built up, you will be able to get it speced to your needs and it’s probably better than any mid tier big western brand alternative! And far cheaper
Man you are so far off its comical 😂 but hey good thing opinions are not facts. First off a high-end alloy race frame can be lighter and more responsive than a mid tier carbon frame. Geometry dictates how harsh or comfy a frame will feel more so than material, carbon does absorb vibration better. You also must have skipped the last 15 years of legendary alloy race bikes.. Cannondale caad10/12, Trek emonda alr, Allez sprint 2015-2020. That was just a few I listed that have been carbon killers for value and weight difference. All my alloy race bikes 16lb or less and ride damn near as good as my top tier carbon bikes at a less than half the price. A quick google search would tell you the same thing i said on the bikes mentioned try it out ✌🏾
@@kyungi1 so I’ve got a cannondale CAAD 10 and a mid tier giant tcr pro disc 1. Absolutely no comparison for speed and comfort. Don’t get me wrong I love my caad 10 for simplicity and robustness and I would never sell it but it’s more nostalgia. The caad 12 was good too but after that I don’t rate the CAAD 13 as it’s heavy and sluggish. I have a winspace bike I’ve built up for less than £4K and it will blow any of these alloy bikes out the water whilst not sacrificing anything apart from robustness and even then if I cracked the frame I could get it fixed. So I don’t know what I’m missing??
Aluminum A pure metal that's malleable, a good conductor of heat and electricity, and nonmagnetic. However, it's too soft for many industrial uses. Aluminum alloy A combination of aluminum with other metals to create a material with different properties, such as increased strength and durability. 👍
Look up Romet. Polish brand, they sell in UK as well apparently. I picked up Huragan 1, aluminum frame with beautiful smooth welds, carbon fork, Claris (HT2 cranks), rim brakes. Takes 28mm tires, prefectly capable bike. Paid €480 for it.
Why ignore CUBE? They have a gorgeous Attain SLX that would fit right in this series.
They ignored many good bikes. You will never see all good bikes promoted in one place at once.
Pay to play?
Note that the Giant Contend has Claris gear, not 105, as can be seen in both your video and Giant's web site. The bike is still a great value but you had me amazed for a moment.
This year I switched from Cannondale CAAD 13 105 (mechanical 2x11) to Cannondale SuperSix EVO 3 105 (electronic 2x12).
I'll be honest. I don't feel as good on the new better carbon bike as I did on the previous aluminum bike.
Carbon is all about marketing. Steel frames are top, aluminium often also better than carbon.
@@tongotongo3143rubbish
Still featuring mostly the big brands that offer poor value for money (looking at you, Trek, Cannondale, and Specialized). Cube, on the other hand, offers a 105 12-speed aluminum bike for just EUR 1,399, which would be the best deal for any beginner. Things get ridiculous when you consider that Cube offers a full carbon road bike (even with carbon wheels!) with Ultegra Di2 for EUR 3,000 - basically the same price as the mechanical aluminum Allez Sprint.
yep but cube weights 10kg which is far from Emonda ALR stock 8,9 that can be further lightened with just tires and tubes...
Emonda ALR is the king and competes with carbon. If only Specialized would bring back the rim brake Allez with proper rack mounts. Giant Contend is the best rim brake one with internally routes cables.
Let's see a top ten rim brake bikes
I doubt it'd even reach 10 bikes. Definitely not if you limit it to anything past lowest end groupsets
There are 10?
@@Millicente @MiataBRG I'd go for a top 10 rim brake bikes of all time, new or second-hand. And if I had to buy a new road bike today, I would buy a second hand rim brake mechanical groupset one 100% of the time for any price point under 6.000€. Anything over that would make me perhaps consider the disc brake / electronic groupset offerings of nowadays, but nothing under those price tags.
@@11robotics I got a used Wilier Cento frame from eBay, put 11sp mechanical rim brake Ultegra on it with Shimano RS wheels. $1,500 all in (I had parts from other bikes). It's a smoking hot sub 18 lb. race bike.
Then next do top ten drum brake cars
I bought the Rose reveal AL: 28 mm tires, Shimano 105 ( Ultegra and Di2 group was possible as well) and integrated cables. Bike weigh is 8.8 Kgr.
The Rose is amazing and a very good looking bike, I recommend it a lot. Great value for money.
Why would any amateur rider need anything more than an aluminum frame, rim brakes and a 105 group set with 28mm tires? I’d like to try 30 mm but they wont fit
Because some of us ride on rough roads - and wider tyres are better. Not many rim brakes can allow bigger than 30mm.......
I have a carbon Emonda (SL5) on 105 mechanical/rim and 28 mm tires. Sometimes I wish I could fit bigger tires.
Carbon is more comfortable, that's why. Although, with 30mm tires at low pressure, and good seatpost and saddle, these modern aluminum frames can be just fine, too.
For just road riding I tend to agree.
My bike fit perfectly with your description, but i wish i have disc brake instead
The welds on the 'Allez' are a real eye catcher, ugly but looking strong. I hope rim brakes are coming back more often.
I have been enjoying my road bike since this june and my choice was very close to edr af, a-105 set carraro 62 race, and it cost me a second hand for 700 euros. weight is 9.5 kgs with bottle cages.
The Emonda its awesome
You guys do the same video every year with the same brands same aluminium bikes. Maybe check out what other oppurtinites you got with other brands. Cube Attain SLX aluminium road bike with shimano 105 mechanical 2x12 and hydro brakes for 1400€. Crazy that speci and trek can only offer a claris with mech disc brakes at this price point.
Not only claris, there are lots of with tiagra, 105, and even with ultegra.
3:18 and dt swiss wheels thats a bloody good price
None of these get close to the Allez S-Works still. One of my favourite bikes in my collection. With Dura Ace 9000, Carbon finishing kit and Fulcrum Racing Quattro carbon wheels, weights in around 7kg (maybe less) and plenty of space for 28mm Corsa tyres. I think 2014 was peak aluminium. But all of these ones here would make a great choice in today’s market.
and what price was that ?? all the biles on here over 2k are piss poor value , do they expect people to pay in installments like a car ffs
That Kinesis must be the company that made famous Titus Motolite, Santa Cruz Blur, and many established brands
No standert?
whats the difference between 2024 and 2025 inside the title ... with the content inside the video ... simple nothing
Polygon S5?
Shimano 105 12 speed rim brake not yet available in the market. meaning that Van Rysel are a 11 speed 105 groupset?🤔
There won't be a rim brake version of the 105 R7100 and yes, that Van Rysel is on 105 R7000.
9:07 a racing profile ,not endurance over £2200 ... a little bit too expensive (tbh not my style either)
Забыли про Orbea avant, он тоже заслуживает особого внимания, очень красивый байк.
Они очень много «забыли». Где ты видел чтоб в одном месте в одно время были пропиарены все хорошие велосипеды?:)
Is there any with UDH?
The fourth-generation Trek Domane AL now uses SRAM UDH.
Nice! I'm now considering getting that one with SRAM XPLR 13 speed. I wish they would smooth out the weldings though, like they did 15 years ago. My old Trek 2.1 has much smoother weldings.
the last on allez sprint , £3k for an aluminium racing bike how many people who buy that are going to be able to utilise the extra 41 seconds speed ( the measuremet is subjective to say the least .
and by the time i got here i felt you were out of touch with the puplic , after all last years "are bikes too expensive " videos
aside from that ill take the canyon or the kinesis (lovely paint job , nice equipment )
Waiting for my Caad 14. 13 is way too long in the tooth
The best aluminum road bike for 2024 is buying a used Cannondale and saving big $$$.
i bought a 2023 alu connondale new
Try camp sr5pro
Aluminum alloy is forever reliable. More durable than carbon fiber!! Can last for Decades.💪😉
The KINESIS looks like a hybrid
Id trade a car for one of those bikes that's how good they are
Only dropped in out of curiosity but felt compelled to give a heads up………… to put all the utter hype here into perspective……… grossly over priced, sub equipped and ridiculous weights 9kg -10kg and that’s all that’s on offer here. Go second hand, do your homework, if you don’t already know find out ………get a nice 7.5 kg alloy ride at a fraction of this stuff.
the treck for 2k is a scam tbh
same goes for the cannondale, both are a scam
PS for people who isn't aware, most carbon fiber bikes with 105 group set and alloy bars, set post etc which is the usual thing for those prices, weight 9-10kg so no, alloy bikes aren'theavier than plastic ones unless u spend +5k with full plastic components and lighter group sets which is never worth.
Another reference, there are steel bikes that weight 6.8kg at high end specs so.... f*ck plastic bikes.
I’m sorry but this video is not for 2025! Alloy bikes are not great these days… so if you want comfort then steel is better or ti. Saying comfort on an alloy bike better than carbon is a lie! Not maybe the endurance ones are slightly more than carbon race bikes but any carbon endurance bike will be more comfy. It’s still alloy at the end of the day and alloy has never been the most comfy. All the other ‘performance’ bikes are 2/3 years old and not up to spec for 2025. Alloy is heavy and less responsive than carbon. You can’t change that no matter how much marketing bs they say. If you want to value then get a Chinese bike. Similar prices and better specs and performance. If you crash then you can get carbon repaired as there’s plenty of places these days to do it. Having a aero bike for £3k is not hard these days. I’d even say unless you are willing to spend £12/15k on a bike you are better off get a Chinese bike built up, you will be able to get it speced to your needs and it’s probably better than any mid tier big western brand alternative! And far cheaper
You are writing complete nonsense.
@ that’s cool we all have our own opinion but I’d like to know why you feel that way? I’m open to respectful dialogue
Man you are so far off its comical 😂 but hey good thing opinions are not facts. First off a high-end alloy race frame can be lighter and more responsive than a mid tier carbon frame. Geometry dictates how harsh or comfy a frame will feel more so than material, carbon does absorb vibration better. You also must have skipped the last 15 years of legendary alloy race bikes.. Cannondale caad10/12, Trek emonda alr, Allez sprint 2015-2020. That was just a few I listed that have been carbon killers for value and weight difference. All my alloy race bikes 16lb or less and ride damn near as good as my top tier carbon bikes at a less than half the price. A quick google search would tell you the same thing i said on the bikes mentioned try it out ✌🏾
@@kyungi1 so I’ve got a cannondale CAAD 10 and a mid tier giant tcr pro disc 1. Absolutely no comparison for speed and comfort. Don’t get me wrong I love my caad 10 for simplicity and robustness and I would never sell it but it’s more nostalgia. The caad 12 was good too but after that I don’t rate the CAAD 13 as it’s heavy and sluggish. I have a winspace bike I’ve built up for less than £4K and it will blow any of these alloy bikes out the water whilst not sacrificing anything apart from robustness and even then if I cracked the frame I could get it fixed. So I don’t know what I’m missing??
Alloy is not the same as aluminium.
Aluminum
A pure metal that's malleable, a good conductor of heat and electricity, and nonmagnetic. However, it's too soft for many industrial uses.
Aluminum alloy
A combination of aluminum with other metals to create a material with different properties, such as increased strength and durability. 👍
Just to finish the definitions…
Alloy
A mixture of metals
So steel and titanium bikes are also made of alloys.