That Remo Ring

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  • How to get rid of the ring/ringiness in Remo's key-tuned djembes.
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  • @argenysgarcia5100
    @argenysgarcia5100 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Unbelievable. This is the only video on youtube showing how to assemble and reassemble a Jumbo djembe head. Although straightforward and pretty self explanatory I wanted to see it done before purchasing. I realized this video is almost a decade old, so I'm not sure if you'll see this comment, but Thanks a lot for the explanation!!

  • @stevieengbrock1674
    @stevieengbrock1674 6 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Thanks ! My drum sounds nice and solid now ! Not like a church bell !

  • @aldrinm90
    @aldrinm90 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I agree to this as foam absorbs those overtones leaving a more natural or close to a thin rawhide sound..nice one man! ❤

  • @philipseward8326
    @philipseward8326 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Brilliant. Thanks. Your directions are so thorough and thoughtful.

  • @JuanPyro
    @JuanPyro 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I followed your guide exactly and did some personal modifications to the underside of the drum skin and I'm happy to report that the ring has been greatly reduced. So thanks for the informative video :)

  • @huggyboy6974
    @huggyboy6974 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I changed my Skyndeep head on my 14" Remo Mondo to a Nuskyn, and there was a massive difference. But still some overtones existed. So I used your "vortex" technique to try and diminish the overtones even more. It's a really cheap way to improve the sound and my djembe definitely did come out sounding much more natural (like a traditional carved Djembe with a goatskin head) after using your method. Thanks for that. My Remo Mondo is now sounding nearly like a true West African djembe.

    • @DrumForChange
      @DrumForChange  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      So glad this worked well for you!

  • @donbaird3826
    @donbaird3826 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Moving the piece will change the sound ✨️

  • @bearmacmahon6731
    @bearmacmahon6731 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Solid instruction video overall.
    I simply ran some packing foam strips down & around the interior (years ago), on my 16" Remo 'BOOMER', which tamed the "ring" and haven't opened it up since. I should look in to see what's living in there! LoL.
    **NOTE: Same fix for a vintage Toca 12" & 14" mechanical fiberglass Djembe.... durable hand drums all, but the ring needed a similar fix.
    Keeping in mind that for gig use, volume and the ability to cut through the band sound level, some players leave the "ring" alone. My 10" Remo Djembe sounds fine, for the Doumbek like "accent" i use it for. Once you get the idea down, you can adjust most any synthetic hand drum to the specific sound you want.
    Thanks for the video..... many will enjoy the improved sound.

  • @genxjason
    @genxjason 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Boom!! Worked for me. Thanks for the video Greg!

  • @muzerhythm2242
    @muzerhythm2242 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you Greg making this video! I recently got 16" djembe and at first liked the ring but soon became annoying and couldn't get the distinct tones. A friend told me about this method, and I'm glad found your instructions! Keep making these informative videos! 😉

  • @user-bx6ig9ok8z
    @user-bx6ig9ok8z 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you very much! Now my djembe sounds great!

  • @myvenusharps
    @myvenusharps 12 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Hello Greg,
    I followed your instructions and I found that just placing (4) 2"inch strips of weatherstripping on the inside of the drum head did make a difference. Thanks!

  • @wyszardca
    @wyszardca 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Followed your instructions on an old used Remo djembe that I bought & it worked like a charm. Was a very pleased with how much warmer the tone was sounding. Thanks for the video.

    • @DrumForChange
      @DrumForChange  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's great! Thank you for letting me know!

  • @nirniro1
    @nirniro1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Amazing idea
    Thank you very much

  • @HeyJoeHaze
    @HeyJoeHaze 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for this.
    I will do this when my Remo djembe comes in the mail.

    • @DrumForChange
      @DrumForChange  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Great! Let us know how it goes....

  • @ralphbenites1312
    @ralphbenites1312 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just got a djemba lp aspire sunburst finish.I like the over tones sounds nice

  • @laurencecousins7226
    @laurencecousins7226 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for the tip.

  • @donbaird3826
    @donbaird3826 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You only need a small piece of door trim seal. It is self adhesive. I have a one inch piece on the underside of the head.

  • @truthseeker3907
    @truthseeker3907 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks!! : )Thumbs up Indiana USA.

  • @rommelrivera1186
    @rommelrivera1186 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The larger Remo djembes (> 14") appear to have this problem. I noticed a slight ring in my 12" and decided to try the Remo-provided sound control pads. They muffled the sound so well that now I wish it had more of a ring to it. My djembe has a tone that's closer to that of a conga now.
    I will leave my 12" as it is. I will see what my 14" djembe sounds like out of the box. I also may try a NuSkyn head on it to see if the ring persists once I replace the Fiberskyn head that it comes with.
    Thank you for the great instructional video!

    • @laurencecousins7226
      @laurencecousins7226 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I believe you'll notice a much improved difference with the NuSkyn

  • @DrumForChange
    @DrumForChange  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Several viewers have asked about the way the little strips are installed on the actual drum head. I didn't get a clear camera angle for this in the video. Here's what that looks like: ( II . Imagine the '(' is the rim of the drum.
    From the rim of the drum, come in an inch or so and lay the strips parallel to (rather than perpendicular from) the edge of the drum. I use roughly 2" strips and put them side-by-side with no space between them. I recommend you experiment with this part FIRST by adjusting the amount and placement of the strips. Start by doing this on top of the head; you just might get the sound you want without going any further. If you get something you like, you can then move the tape to the same position on the underside of the head by reaching up inside the drum from the bottom.
    I've also seen players make a 'T" shape with a piece of duct tape. They stick the tape to itself but leave little flaps at the top that make the cross bar on the T, then stick that to the underside of the drum head. That method hasn't worked as well for me.

  • @max.lewandowski
    @max.lewandowski 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Greg, I love the sound now. Thank you so much. I was so disappointed when I got the djembe out of the box and realized that there is this nasty ringy sound that is taking my focus away from the drum. I was wondering, there must be some trick as I've seen a woman on TED with exactly the same djembe who was drumming since she was 9 years old and she was doing some crazy stuff. The sound is 360° different. I was quite close from sending it back. Thanks, I'm in love with this drum ;)

  • @DrumForChange
    @DrumForChange  12 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Skyndeep is a new (and in my opinion) improved synthetic over the Fiberskyn on this older djembe. Yes, you can work on it the same way. A quick fix might be to simply test a couple of strips on the top of the head before disassembling the drum for the full monty. Tune the drum up first, then throw a couple of 2" pieces of weatherstripping on the top of the head. This may make a world of difference. If you like that, move the strips to the underside of the head, or go for the full treatment.

    • @SWH2012
      @SWH2012 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Get NuSkyn, this is by far the best synthetic handdrumming head Remo has ever produced, and as a professional percussionist, I have tried them all! You will not believe NuSkyn: ringy overtones are gone, they are warm and genuine sounding and will last a lifetime. It is expensive, but well worht the investment. Truely a great, great head, available in many different versions: as a Mondo head (for Remo Mondo djembes), as a tucked head (for Remo rope-tuned djembes and some traditional carved djembes from Africa, depending on the size, available in 13, 14 and 15 inch) and with an aluminium hoop (for Remo cable-tuned djembes, also available in 13, 14 and 15 inch).

  • @DarxusC
    @DarxusC 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I've seen people recommend that you apply the weather stripping *irregularly*, because you're trying to make it resonate less. (And that seems to work well for me.)

    • @DrumForChange
      @DrumForChange  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Likely there are lots of methods that work. This is simply one that was recommended by Paulo Mattioli; he helped design the drums for Remo.

  • @bohickity
    @bohickity 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have a fiberglass Pearl Djembe and just putting a one inch square piece if foam on the underside of the head got rid of it. Why doesn’t Remo just include the the foam tape with the drum. The ring really makes other drummers reluctant to sit next to a Remo. African rope tuned djembe drums also can develop a ring. That is a tough fix that maybe requiring a new head and/or rings. It doesn’t matter how much a drum costs, if it has a ring it’s annoying.

    • @DrumForChange
      @DrumForChange  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think Remo’s newer models use a different material for the djembe heads And they now have substantially less overtones. Lots of folks, particularly thunder drummers that I know, really love the ringy sound, though. To each their own. I guess it’s a good thing there’s room for everyone in the drum circle…

  • @wanparaph
    @wanparaph 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I've had this drum for years and oscillate on sound. If you tune it carefully the ring can be super cool, not all tinny. As far as dampening goes the weather stripping thing never satisfied. I just cut an old thin cotton blend t shirt so I can just cover the top of the rim edge then put the head over it. Fixes the edge sound leaves the bass alone. Also I tried tuning by measuring the lug spacing with a digital caliper and it works great!

    • @gregwhittmusic
      @gregwhittmusic 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Neat! I was down at Disney years ago and their outdoor Remo drums in the Animal Kingdom had the heads covered with a canvas-type fabric. It was a great look and likely kept the drum heads from quite so much UV exposure while also dampening the sound a bit.

  • @markwoodyard3993
    @markwoodyard3993 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for the video! The only thing I'm unclear on is the placement of the two 2" pieces of weatherstripping. Do they go on the drumskin itself (at the Remo symbol), or on the side of the drum adjacent to the Remo symbol?

    • @DrumForChange
      @DrumForChange  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Strips look like this: ( || where the paren mark is the rim of the drum and the equal sign goes on the Remo logo. You can try this FIRST on the top of the drum head to see if it's enough to get the result you like before disassembling the drum to do the vortex-type pattern.

  • @RanSalman
    @RanSalman 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for this video man, one question, how is that comparing to the Remo foam dot on the head ? (got one already underneath the head when bought my djembe)

    • @DrumForChange
      @DrumForChange  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I've never tried the dot, so I've no basis for comparison. Similar concept, I suppose, so I would guess there's a similar effect. The dot will change the quality of vibration at the head, but it won't do anything to affect the channel of sound waves exiting the foot of the drum. What does the dot cost? For a couple of dollars you can get a whole roll of foam tape and do several drums.

  • @myvenusharps
    @myvenusharps 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Re: previous post from me, I should have mentioned that the head is the Skyndeep, does that make a difference?
    Thanks.

  • @EarlyMist
    @EarlyMist 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    i kinda like that Remo Ring.

  • @ChristopherLopezDrums
    @ChristopherLopezDrums 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow, I love this video, very well done!
    I have a Toca Lightweight djembe (it's not the best, I know) and since the drumhead can't be removed, I have to accept the ringy sound of the drum.
    Can you give me any recomendations on how to get a better, more "real" sound out of this drum?
    Thanks!

    • @DrumForChange
      @DrumForChange  8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +Christopher Lopez: I have a bunch of Toca Freestyle II djembes that I use in my drum circle work. When they're tuned up tight (mine are the rope-tuned models) a lot of that ringing is eliminated without extra effort. Beyond that, try these same techniques by reaching inside the drum from the bottom.

  • @nutdip
    @nutdip 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you for this! Can you please tell me which way the 2, 2 inch strips are oriented under the Remo logo? Are they perpendicular to the sides? How far apart? How close to the edge? I couldn't tell in the video.

    • @gregorywhitt6300
      @gregorywhitt6300 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Parallel, as if you were underlining the Remo logo.

    • @nutdip
      @nutdip 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Gregory Whitt next to each other (touching) like rabbit teeth? Or with a small space between them like gap teeth. Lol (sorry, your drum just sounds so good that I want to replicate your mod perfectly.). :-)

    • @gregorywhitt6300
      @gregorywhitt6300 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Try it on top first to see which configuration works best for your drum. Mine are touching, shoulder-to-shoulder, but experiment with it to get the best sound for your drum. Look at the logo on the top of the drum and simply underline the logo; that will put you an inch or 1.5 from the bearing edge of the drum.

    • @gregorywhitt6300
      @gregorywhitt6300 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mine are touching, but you'll want to experiment with placement on top of the drum to get the great sound, THEN move them to the underside of the head.

  • @myvenusharps
    @myvenusharps 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    i recently bought the Remo eco friendly djembe. I am not sure I have that ring sound but someone did comment that it almost sounded like a snare drum. I personally feel like it is too pitchy (not sure if that makes sense). Anyway I wonder if I went ahead and placed foam (as demonstrated) how would the sound change or would it? Can the faon tape be easily removed? Thanks.

    • @SWH2012
      @SWH2012 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Get NuSkyn, this is by far the best synthetic handdrumming head Remo has ever produced, and as a professional percussionist, I have tried them all! You will not believe NuSkyn: ringy overtones are gone, they are warm and genuine sounding and will last a lifetime. It is expensive, but well worht the investment. Truely a great, great head, available in many different versions: as a Mondo head (for Remo Mondo djembes), as a tucked head (for Remo rope-tuned djembes and some traditional carved djembes from Africa, depending on the size, available in 13, 14 and 15 inch) and with an aluminium hoop (for Remo cable-tuned djembes, also available in 13, 14 and 15 inch).

  • @charlesdrums
    @charlesdrums 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi! I just bought a 16 inch and now they come with a ring and a dot that you can stick to the back of the skin but should I do the inside like you did? The ring is suppose to take care of that but I want a more dry and natural sound

    • @DrumForChange
      @DrumForChange  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The weatherstripping comes off easily when it's fresh. If you have some around the house, you could try a bit on the back of the head first to see if it gives you the desired effect. If that's not enough dampening, you could opt for the dot/ring OR try the spiral treatment OR some combination of them all. It's really subjective. Enjoy experimenting to get the sound you like.

  • @donbaird3826
    @donbaird3826 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That is ALL you need.

    • @DrumForChange
      @DrumForChange  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That may be true. I'm simply demonstrating the method the designer of the drum recommended.

  • @UltrafiAV
    @UltrafiAV 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I wonder if anyone has ever tried installing a real skin (cow/calf/horse/steer/buffalo) on a Remo Acousticon shell. I wonder how it would sound...

    • @gregwhittmusic
      @gregwhittmusic 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I haven't personally seen that, though I have seen a number of traditional shells fitted with synthetic heads.

  • @shashankmongrel
    @shashankmongrel 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    brave man

  • @TamiePryor
    @TamiePryor 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Mine is ringing like a bell! I can't stand it! I just want to clarify -- you are sticking 2 strips below the logo on the underside of the "skin" -- sticking in ON the skin, not on the rim?

    • @DrumForChange
      @DrumForChange  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      On the skin, not on the rim. Looks like an equal sign set parallel to the rim of the drum. Put one strip behind the word REMO and one parallel to that closer to the rim. Experiment with placement to get a level of overtones you like.

    • @TamiePryor
      @TamiePryor 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      DrumForChange Thank you! I really appreciate your help.
      I just don’t understand why Remo doesn’t do something to correct this before we buy. Certainly no one likes this sound.

    • @DrumForChange
      @DrumForChange  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Drum tuning on any kind of drum is subjective. Lots of people do, in fact, like the overtones as a way to cut through the overwhelming sounds of some drum circles. Remo does make other head films -- NuSkyn, Comfort Sound Technology, and Bahia Bass for example -- that have much drier and warmer pitches. If you're looking for softer soothing sounds, you might check out some of those options.

  • @fredericinduni
    @fredericinduni 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Anyone knows if that would work on a natural conga too ?

    • @gregwhittmusic
      @gregwhittmusic 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You can probably forego the inside of the shell and go straight for the underside of the drum head to add a bit of dampening.

  • @CatherineDemski
    @CatherineDemski 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    can I do this without taking the head off?(:

    • @gregorywhitt6300
      @gregorywhitt6300 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I think that would be really difficult to do. I've done the two little pieces on the underside of the head by simply reaching into the drum; that takes really long arms. I think doing the spiral part that way would be very frustrating. You'd be working one handed with sticky stuff in an awkward position that you can't see.

  • @jarredwebb801
    @jarredwebb801 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ok what I wanna know is why people choose to reduce the overtones anyway? Truly asking.

    • @gregorywhitt6300
      @gregorywhitt6300 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      It’s certainly an aesthetic. A well-tuned traditional djembe has a dry, crisp sound without all that ping. I kind of liken it to buying a new trumpet without adjusting the valves. Sure, you can make a sound, but it wasn’t the one the instrument was actually intended to make….

    • @jarredwebb801
      @jarredwebb801 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@gregorywhitt6300 thank you for responding dude! So I just started playing and after this question I tried to listen harder to see if I like the sound of the overtones. I am concerned that if I dampen it, the bass will ring less and the slap will sound less bouncy and bell like. But yeah the tone notes will sound better I'm sure. What do you think it does to the different notes?

    • @gregorywhitt6300
      @gregorywhitt6300 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jarredwebb801 Start small: simply add a couple of inches of weatherstripping to the inside of the head and see if you like that effect. There is trade-off when you tune the drum up. Higher pitches get clear, but the bass also rises.

  • @vladimirnikolic2780
    @vladimirnikolic2780 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    good solution..however , nothing eco friendly about it.

    • @gregorywhitt6300
      @gregorywhitt6300 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Remo received many awards for their products because their drum shells are made from recycled wood fibers. Humane rights folks like their stuff because synthetic drum heads don't use animal products of any kind. Certainly petroleum products aren't ideal, yet many people like that no trees or critters died just to create this product.

    • @vladimirnikolic2780
      @vladimirnikolic2780 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      my apologies. I thought it was plastic. Thank you.

  • @frontmanPB
    @frontmanPB 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    you need to specify what kind of pounds you're talking about and how you measured it

    • @gregorywhitt6300
      @gregorywhitt6300 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm not sure what kind of "pounds" a drum dial tuning device measures. You can find more information on their website at www.drumdial.com

  • @zefabzefabien7261
    @zefabzefabien7261 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    intéressant cette vidéo, mais je pense que vous vous prenez la tête pour rien. moi aussi j'ai un Rémo et j'ai constaté un "sustain", c'est à dire une note qui se poursuit et dure trop longtemps, surtout dans les aigus en frappant des claquées.
    il suffit de déposer un carré de "moongel" ou autre marque sur le bord de la peau et le problème est instantanément réglé, il vibre alors beaucoup moins longtemps sans changer le son de la frappe.
    c'est un peu ce qui est dit dans cette vidéo, qu'on peut ajouter de l'adhésif isolant sous le logo Rémo, mais à mon sens il faut commencer par cela avec un produit adapté et peu cher, et ça suffira.
    il existe aussi des modèles encore plus collants qu'il est possible de cacher sous la peau en les collant de manière définitive

    • @DrumForChange
      @DrumForChange  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      For certain there are multiple ways to go about this. This just happens to be the method recommended by the late Paulo Mattioli, who helped design this model for Remo. I never had any luck with Moongel; it didn't adhere well and always wound up on the floor covered in dust.

    • @zefabzefabien7261
      @zefabzefabien7261 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ok.
      Je voulais parler d'une alternative que je trouvais plus simple car d'après moi le problème se situe uniquement dans la peau, mais peut-être que le fut est responsable lui aussi, d'où l'utilité de votre tuto pour certains cas.
      Enjoy !

    • @zefabzefabien7261
      @zefabzefabien7261 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      J'ajoute que on trouve sur le site internet de Remo des petites pastilles rondes autocollantes à coller sous la peau, mais je n'ai pas testé

  • @markpaycer6908
    @markpaycer6908 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Buy a real djembe and you wont have that sound. A duh,

    • @DrumForChange
      @DrumForChange  4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Not exactly true: we've all heard lots of hand-carved wooden djembes with tremendous overtone ringing. Tuning one of those isn't the subject of this video, however. We're not making recommendations here on what kind of drum to play, but rather how to improve the sound of these particular models.

    • @markpaycer6908
      @markpaycer6908 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      It wasn't a real carved djembe. I have 7 high quality djembes and none of them ring. However, they all are pieces of art with beautiful craftmanship that are 500 and over price wise. I don't see the point of putting Velcro and muffling on a drum when you can just go out and get an authentic one. Hey, I don't mean to sound snobbish but have a nice day. Kudos to you, everyone has there own way of doing things.

    • @vesuvius2444
      @vesuvius2444 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@markpaycer6908 Someone recently gave me one of these drums and I don't have 500 dollars laying around. So I'm thankful for this video. Some tweaks and it sounds much better than when I got it. I'll make the best of what I do have.

    • @zenguitar65
      @zenguitar65 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @markpaycer6908 My djembe only has two tones. Firstly, "Prima", Secondly, "Donna"... I'm guessing you relate?