@@Mabswer That's a bad take. Sony isn't really harmed by this. We know some of their internal deliberations regarding future decisions but that's it. Wolverine and Venom and Spider-Man 3 are gonna release and they are probably gonna make loads of money, and that's all that Sony cares about. It's Insomniac developers who are the victims. Firstly, having their personal details leaked, and secondly, having their work leaked before they are ready to show it.
Generally, they don't operate that way. It's safer and more profitable to move on to another target. Also, they said the data will go to one owner, it will be deleted after being sold. So if they kept the data, not only would it piss off the gang they sold the data to. It would hurt their ability to sell stolen data in the future. I mean, you aren't going to go back to a guy who sells you oregano when he promised it was Mary Jane.
@@zaidabraham7310I think there's a little more to that point too. They've delivered and performed financially, and despite growth are now potentially subject to having their head count cut. It's a shame in my view
Do the comics ever explain how Logan retains wrist mobility despite there being 3 rigid,metallic blades that are supposed to lock that point of articulation in one place?
it isnt blade, but bones that growth out of his back fist. Early in the Wolverine before he received adamantium coating. its just a mere bones growth out of his back fist, sometimes its easily cut off during fight
Really happy with that last statement by Lawrence. Y’all deserve all you get and I’m really happy things are looking great for the future. Happy Holidays
I realize that a ton of goodwill was gained by both Microsoft & Sony during the console wars. If you view the other side as evil or bad, you’re inherently gonna think of your side as good. I think that both companies benefited greatly from that era
I'm surprised you didn't mention the biggest revelation from the leak - that it takes $7 million to port a AAA licensed game to the PC. I think it was around $7 they were given to port Spider-Man 2 to PC. It might have been $6 million or $8 million. Still, that's incredible to me that they get $300 million to make the entire game, then $7 million for a port. I mean, it's probably enough money to do it right (especially since it's in house for them) but it seems remarkably little money to me?
I get Spider flash, but I still feel that the Spiderman games are pretty high quality. Hate to see the leaks though, the devs deserve much better. Keep up the good work IG.
Business PII info leaks is dangerous, not only because it puts your employees in harm’s way. It puts the business in danger because now employees can be more easily targeted for system access information.
The only reason I would want to look at the footage is to see the difference between the build now and at release. I'll just wait till it comes out and look at the leaks then. It is fascinating to see the transformation though. If more people saw that happen, I think they would be more patient.
I feel like Sony doesn’t get that Spider-Man 2 is also a back door ad for venom which will probably sell about as much and be way cheaper to make which sorta accounts for the overall extra cost
Heartbreaking to hear that Sunset Overdrive and Ratchet & Clank weren't profitable. It sucks that higher quality games don't have the ubiquitous appeal that Marvel does. When everyone has a console, not just gaming hobbyists, it makes companies like Sony want to sell every game to every console owner. In reality, I'm sure a ton of those people only play 1 game a year (usually CoD or Sports Titles).
20:23. I worked at Unity for about 4 months as a temp in accounting around 2018. Everyday at lunch I would sit, eat my lunch, looking out this window about 20 floors up and I watched the construction of what would be become a condo everyday. So I would see the slow process of this condo being built wall by wall, floor by floor. It was fascinating so I get what Bruce is saying.
Doesn't matter if the hackers are in a country that doesn't have an extradition treaty with the US. Like Russia, for example. If the hackers are Russian, they can get away with it.
Hackers "get away" with it all the time. Which is why the hacks are constantly happening. You're only hearing about this one because you like video games.
It’s truly heartbreaking to see all your work being judged while the painting no even done let alone dry and while love seeing stuff from in development games with the way Sony seem to not be happy with insomniac profitability for some reason I can’t comprehend ( like my guy just made you more money then you gave them) I’m sure someone at Sony is gonna hang this over insomniacs head and there just gonna have to take it
The Sunset Overdrive news is a bit misleading. Insomniac wasn't footing the bill for that game, Microsoft was, so any profits would go to Microsoft, minus the little bit that went to Insomniac. Sounds like Microsoft didn't want to foot enough money compared to Sony, to pay for SO 2 instead of Spiderman
Im surprised you guys didnt cover that spiderman 3 might be in 2 parts for $50 each, one year apart from each other. That was the biggest shock to me. I hope they dont do that. Splitting a game in two parts just so people that really want to play them when they come out to pay $100 + tax? Thats outrageous. But sadly, that might be normalized in a couple of years
Ratchet and Clank is a kids game, the PS4 game was 40$, and going from that to 70$ is what hurt it. No fucking way I'm paying that much for a kids game. (Also don't argue that it was cheaper because it was a remake, Demon's Souls remake was 70$. There's no standard to sell remakes cheaper.)
That’s disappointing that we’ll never see another ratchet and clank game. I remember there being multiple titles being released during the ps2 and ps3 days
I 100% trust the insomniac leaks more than that slimey sweet baby inc slave company , hope the modders make it into a great game!!!! PC EXCLUSIVES BOYS WE UP
im so annoyed that as an xbox player i cant play a huge chunk of marvel games like i was fine with spiderman since sony owns him but they dont own xmen this sucks
Maybe I sound callous but I don’t care that the game got spoiled. One day after the game comes out it would’ve been spoiled anyway, it makes no difference. I don’t care if Sony feels bad.I feel bad for the employees that information got leaked, but Sony going to be just fine. We do not need to weep for them.
Man I bought the sunset overdrive version of the Xbox one just because I wanted a white Xbox one, when I actually played sunset overdrive I realized just how good that game was. Shame it was such a financial failure
the story leaks rub me so wrong with the romance and a certain sinister villain. feels like those DC animated movies where they gave entire plots and arcs belonging to other characters to the ones featured, and not achieving anything worthwhile and damaging public perception of the characters not featured
PS5 sales still more-or-less kept pace with PS4 sales during PS4's first couple of years. PS5 sold more during its launch year, than PS4 did during its launch year. And PS5 sold about a 2.5 million units less during its first 2 years, than PS4 did during its first 2 years (22.5 million PS5's vs 25 million PS4's). So sales were still very healthy. It's just that demand exceeded supply which meant the consoles were selling out very fast. Also, when Ratchet and Clank Rift Apart launched (June 2021), we were in the pandemic-induced digital entertainment boom. People were spending loads of money on games. It was only after Russia invaded Ukraine around March 2022 that inflation and recession hit.
@@zaidabraham7310 you wrote all that to prove a point in an argument no one has having. No one was doubting if the console sold well or not. The point of the comment was bunch of ppl didn't purchase many games when a vast portion of the consoles being bought were thanks to bots buying in bulk to sit in a reseller's closet for markup later instead of by a human who would then buy games on the console. The point wasn't the consoles weren't selling, it's they were most in boxes untouched. Plus the library launch was barren, everyone who got a console year 1 were still playing the PS4 backlog/releases just on better hardware unless you were a real fan of that IP.
@oc3891 The reason I'm arguing that PS5 sales were healthy, is to prove that there was enough of an install-base when R&C Rift Apart launched. Specifically to counter your point that the game sold poorly because nobody could buy a PS5. "Most consoles were in boxes untouched". Proof? We have no idea how many PS5's were scalped, and even if it was a very large percentage, I imagine scalpers managed to sell them to end-users quite quickly (because demand was so high). Scalpers wouldn't have been sitting on the consoles for months on end.
After the leaks on plans for what is gonna happen to the xmen as a whole I'm really far from giving a shit for this game. Maybe when it's closer to release it'll look like something. But like spiderman it's going no where.
“Sony’s good guy image” lol 😂 They haven’t had that in a long time. Next you’re gonna tell me Xbox has an image of quality. Or Nintendo reciprocates their fans’s loyalty and passion. lol 😂
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I read that as Nebraska: Bladepoint, so I've either got dyslexia or I've been preparing for the holiday season too early
Just a props to you guys for being so consistently good at what you do
I feel like if you paid the ransom they would still keep a copy of the data for blackmail
Then again, its sony, they deserve every bit of it. Even more now since now we know what BS they gona try next.. another game price hike, yikes.
@@Mabswer That's a bad take. Sony isn't really harmed by this. We know some of their internal deliberations regarding future decisions but that's it. Wolverine and Venom and Spider-Man 3 are gonna release and they are probably gonna make loads of money, and that's all that Sony cares about.
It's Insomniac developers who are the victims. Firstly, having their personal details leaked, and secondly, having their work leaked before they are ready to show it.
Generally, they don't operate that way. It's safer and more profitable to move on to another target.
Also, they said the data will go to one owner, it will be deleted after being sold. So if they kept the data, not only would it piss off the gang they sold the data to. It would hurt their ability to sell stolen data in the future. I mean, you aren't going to go back to a guy who sells you oregano when he promised it was Mary Jane.
@@zaidabraham7310I think there's a little more to that point too. They've delivered and performed financially, and despite growth are now potentially subject to having their head count cut. It's a shame in my view
Been watching you guys since Machinima, Love that you're still bringing the news.
I'm so glad to hear that you're doing well so far independently, here's to a 2024 full of more inside games, familiar faces, and any new ones!
Bruce: don't jump to conclusions
Twitter users: I'm gonna pretend I didn't hear that.
Merry Christmas, Lawrence and Bruce!
There is only one thing I require of this game, wolverine does the hat trick routine from civil war in a cutscene
Also Mr. sinister is awesome but only the OG one, NOT THE ULTIMATE VERSION, that dude looks like a mechanic
Love you guys. Merry Christmas.
Wolverine doesn’t really lend himself well, for a single player game.
His powers are very simple. No evolution for a skill tree …
I'm honestly bummed about Sunset Overdrive
It was such a fun game
Always appreciate Inside Games and their updates
Sunset Overdrive info hurts me. I loved the humor, had a lot of fun and was continually impressed with it. It felt so unique to me… 😢
Do the comics ever explain how Logan retains wrist mobility despite there being 3 rigid,metallic blades that are supposed to lock that point of articulation in one place?
it isnt blade, but bones that growth out of his back fist. Early in the Wolverine before he received adamantium coating. its just a mere bones growth out of his back fist, sometimes its easily cut off during fight
Really happy with that last statement by Lawrence. Y’all deserve all you get and I’m really happy things are looking great for the future. Happy Holidays
Instead of laying off up to 75 people...why not just cut executive salaries to help people keep their jobs?
I mean I know why. But I stand hy it.
Whoooo, could hardly wait to finish the bytt video to head over here. Thanks for the entertainment and information!
Thanks for daily/weekly gaming news guys...My favorite channel to catch all my info on!
I think it’s cool what they’re doing with the skate video game and showing us updates on it’s progress
Merry Christmas to Inside Games staff 🎄
Reminds me of back in 2008 when the Wolverine movie leaked, also with some parts unfinished and still in progress.
The amount of times Sony/PS has been hacked is truly concerning. There's no reason Sony should of been hacked that many times
3:34 indeed Lawrence
I feel bad for insomniac games and the people affected. I'm most likely gonna forget about these leaks.
You covered this with respect and integrity. I appreciate you approaching it this way instead of avoiding it.
Thank you.
I realize that a ton of goodwill was gained by both Microsoft & Sony during the console wars. If you view the other side as evil or bad, you’re inherently gonna think of your side as good.
I think that both companies benefited greatly from that era
I'm surprised you didn't mention the biggest revelation from the leak - that it takes $7 million to port a AAA licensed game to the PC. I think it was around $7 they were given to port Spider-Man 2 to PC. It might have been $6 million or $8 million. Still, that's incredible to me that they get $300 million to make the entire game, then $7 million for a port. I mean, it's probably enough money to do it right (especially since it's in house for them) but it seems remarkably little money to me?
I get Spider flash, but I still feel that the Spiderman games are pretty high quality. Hate to see the leaks though, the devs deserve much better. Keep up the good work IG.
Sunset overdrive was so good, they should release it on Playstation to make the profit it deserved.
good lord hearing those dates of the later game releases makes my old bones hurt even more
That ad read was *strange* 😂 like, not in a bad way? I don’t think? But I couldn’t have in a million years told you where that ad would go
Business PII info leaks is dangerous, not only because it puts your employees in harm’s way. It puts the business in danger because now employees can be more easily targeted for system access information.
Also a full build of the Wolverine is now out in the wild
The only reason I would want to look at the footage is to see the difference between the build now and at release.
I'll just wait till it comes out and look at the leaks then. It is fascinating to see the transformation though. If more people saw that happen, I think they would be more patient.
I love Law dog talking about the constant victory laps😂
That current Wolverine voice in the build ain’t it tho!
SIX YEARS??? SIX YEARS UNTIL A NEW RATCHET GAME?!?!?!???? WAAHHHT?!?!?
What do you mean by a targeted game link?
I feel like Sony doesn’t get that Spider-Man 2 is also a back door ad for venom which will probably sell about as much and be way cheaper to make which sorta accounts for the overall extra cost
Heartbreaking to hear that Sunset Overdrive and Ratchet & Clank weren't profitable. It sucks that higher quality games don't have the ubiquitous appeal that Marvel does. When everyone has a console, not just gaming hobbyists, it makes companies like Sony want to sell every game to every console owner. In reality, I'm sure a ton of those people only play 1 game a year (usually CoD or Sports Titles).
I was really hoping Wolverine wouldn’t have the investigation stuff in it, it always feels like padding
Amazing video as always guys! Thank you for noticing my long winded comment and discussing it. lol
All I really hope for the wolverine game is the healing factor looks good
would love to see Brian again, Happy Xmas
It's like buying or receiving stolen merchandise if you download and play.
It would be meta if Brian gets included with this channel...but only through a laptop in either Bruce or Lawrence corner in their room lol
Brian's actually cowriting the show with Lawrence, but yeah he definitely should get some screentime.
20:23. I worked at Unity for about 4 months as a temp in accounting around 2018. Everyday at lunch I would sit, eat my lunch, looking out this window about 20 floors up and I watched the construction of what would be become a condo everyday. So I would see the slow process of this condo being built wall by wall, floor by floor. It was fascinating so I get what Bruce is saying.
Like they realize whoever does the leaks eventually gets caught. They usually find the person who leaks.
Doesn't matter if the hackers are in a country that doesn't have an extradition treaty with the US. Like Russia, for example. If the hackers are Russian, they can get away with it.
Hackers "get away" with it all the time. Which is why the hacks are constantly happening.
You're only hearing about this one because you like video games.
I wanted this game to be metal gear solid meets wolverine.. weapon x missions full of mayhem.
Hard to believe 6 million units sold in half a year or whatever could lead to staff cuts. Sounds like poor management on Sony's part.
The only gaming news I watch not for any other reason than bein a fan of them since before funhaus
People also bought miles thinking it was a full game. If people knew it was just barley bigger than a DLC the sales may not have been that high
It’s truly heartbreaking to see all your work being judged while the painting no even done let alone dry and while love seeing stuff from in development games with the way Sony seem to not be happy with insomniac profitability for some reason I can’t comprehend ( like my guy just made you more money then you gave them) I’m sure someone at Sony is gonna hang this over insomniacs head and there just gonna have to take it
will logan be able to do a split in hallways
Can’t wait for this game !
Yeah, I'd gladly buy Sunset Overdrive 2 over any of the new the Spider-Man games. I just don't care about Spider-Man that much.
I would love to hear how they went from the first FUSE trailer to the trash that was release.
Is there a IG group Discord available? This is really my favorite gaming news feed! If not please consider creating one.
When all of the games you are creating are 15 hours long, I guess you can have 5 games in the works.
@jeffsroyalbodyguard7642 you can definitely beat the story within 15 hours. Most people won't 100% the game.
@jeffsroyalbodyguard7642 Speed runners would like a word with you.
The Sunset Overdrive news is a bit misleading. Insomniac wasn't footing the bill for that game, Microsoft was, so any profits would go to Microsoft, minus the little bit that went to Insomniac. Sounds like Microsoft didn't want to foot enough money compared to Sony, to pay for SO 2 instead of Spiderman
Im surprised you guys didnt cover that spiderman 3 might be in 2 parts for $50 each, one year apart from each other. That was the biggest shock to me. I hope they dont do that. Splitting a game in two parts just so people that really want to play them when they come out to pay $100 + tax? Thats outrageous. But sadly, that might be normalized in a couple of years
The only thing that won't change is that sunset overdrive sold 500 dollars profit.
Maybe Miles Morales got more sales cause it was cheaper? 🤔
And it was cross-gen at a time when a lot of people couldn't get a Ps5. Good game though.
Ratchet and Clank is a kids game, the PS4 game was 40$, and going from that to 70$ is what hurt it. No fucking way I'm paying that much for a kids game.
(Also don't argue that it was cheaper because it was a remake, Demon's Souls remake was 70$. There's no standard to sell remakes cheaper.)
Omega Red?
Fuck yeah
That’s disappointing that we’ll never see another ratchet and clank game. I remember there being multiple titles being released during the ps2 and ps3 days
I don't know guys... Considering the state games are released all too often - we sometimes do get to see games in development.
I 100% trust the insomniac leaks more than that slimey sweet baby inc slave company , hope the modders make it into a great game!!!! PC EXCLUSIVES BOYS WE UP
There's no way Sony can do lay-offs on their best studio! It's insane that they are even considering it.
i saw all the files including blue prints , mocap and beta testing and its all real.
I completely unfollowed certain outlets after they bungled reporting on this.
I believe that sunset overdrive sales was galvanized by xbox game pass, hence why they only earn 567 dollars.
Sunset overdrive was a great game almost everyone shits on
it's a good thing Sony now (eventually) releases a lot of their games on PC to really profit off of them
well im still doing an embargo on leaked wolverine stuff. see yah next ep.
Happy Holidays Everyone! Except kassem...tell that mofo happy Kwanzaa
i wouldnt mind studios giving roadmaps like marvel or starwars.
im so annoyed that as an xbox player i cant play a huge chunk of marvel games like i was fine with spiderman since sony owns him but they dont own xmen this sucks
And the kid that leaked the gta trailer got life in a hospital prison
Let's hack people's personal info right around the holiday season. How many employees are going to get their identity stolen because of this?
So is it all fake or what? And do we know
InsidegamesHeads rise up
Did sony forget the majority if the playerbase doesn't have 5s? Of course the game isn't selling like crazy
Naraka is a great game
Maybe I sound callous but I don’t care that the game got spoiled. One day after the game comes out it would’ve been spoiled anyway, it makes no difference. I don’t care if Sony feels bad.I feel bad for the employees that information got leaked, but Sony going to be just fine. We do not need to weep for them.
Screw Sony they deserve this if there to cheap to protect there employees there inviting this kind of stuff
Man I bought the sunset overdrive version of the Xbox one just because I wanted a white Xbox one, when I actually played sunset overdrive I realized just how good that game was.
Shame it was such a financial failure
wild idea for sony instead of laying off people to make ends meat why not cut a deal with microsoft and release your games on xbox
I would have LOVED to play Sunset Overdrive, but budget really limits me to one console and that was Playstation.
ALGO ALGO ALGO
the story leaks rub me so wrong with the romance and a certain sinister villain. feels like those DC animated movies where they gave entire plots and arcs belonging to other characters to the ones featured, and not achieving anything worthwhile and damaging public perception of the characters not featured
Ugh don't care I'll be dead in ten years. Laurence have my baby.
Ratchet and Clank came out when no one could find a PS5 without bots and were already worried about the price of eggs and gas instead sooo
PS5 sales still more-or-less kept pace with PS4 sales during PS4's first couple of years. PS5 sold more during its launch year, than PS4 did during its launch year. And PS5 sold about a 2.5 million units less during its first 2 years, than PS4 did during its first 2 years (22.5 million PS5's vs 25 million PS4's).
So sales were still very healthy. It's just that demand exceeded supply which meant the consoles were selling out very fast.
Also, when Ratchet and Clank Rift Apart launched (June 2021), we were in the pandemic-induced digital entertainment boom. People were spending loads of money on games. It was only after Russia invaded Ukraine around March 2022 that inflation and recession hit.
@@zaidabraham7310 you wrote all that to prove a point in an argument no one has having. No one was doubting if the console sold well or not. The point of the comment was bunch of ppl didn't purchase many games when a vast portion of the consoles being bought were thanks to bots buying in bulk to sit in a reseller's closet for markup later instead of by a human who would then buy games on the console. The point wasn't the consoles weren't selling, it's they were most in boxes untouched. Plus the library launch was barren, everyone who got a console year 1 were still playing the PS4 backlog/releases just on better hardware unless you were a real fan of that IP.
@oc3891 The reason I'm arguing that PS5 sales were healthy, is to prove that there was enough of an install-base when R&C Rift Apart launched. Specifically to counter your point that the game sold poorly because nobody could buy a PS5.
"Most consoles were in boxes untouched". Proof? We have no idea how many PS5's were scalped, and even if it was a very large percentage, I imagine scalpers managed to sell them to end-users quite quickly (because demand was so high). Scalpers wouldn't have been sitting on the consoles for months on end.
Why attack insomniac, it's such a great developer
rhysida deserves to rot in jail
After the leaks on plans for what is gonna happen to the xmen as a whole I'm really far from giving a shit for this game.
Maybe when it's closer to release it'll look like something. But like spiderman it's going no where.
Im not gonna watch the leaks. Which unfortunately feels like the only recource available rn.
“Sony’s good guy image” lol 😂 They haven’t had that in a long time.
Next you’re gonna tell me Xbox has an image of quality. Or Nintendo reciprocates their fans’s loyalty and passion. lol 😂
It would be funny if or when they get caught.
Respect for people that make games? I mean, clearly the studios don't respect them.