As an FPV Drone pilot who uses A radiomaster Radio and ExpressLRS on all my drones I am beyond excited to be able to move my surface RC over to the ecosystem, I hope the RC community takes to this radio and it becomes as popular there as it is in the FPV community. I would say 85% of FPV pilot use a Radiomaster Radio.
@@spartang.1388 Well, I don't know about futaba and sanwa but elr is faster than most links out there with a latency of 6.5ms (at 200hz). At 250hz 100mW 2.4GHz it is capable of ranges 30km+
If they would put in a VTX with head motion with walksnail it would be a real go out and buy one. And yes besides my Dji gear I love my Radiomaster TX16s and other RC aircraft, and drones. Love the gamble upgrades. It not a toy it’s perfection not like DJI
Thanks Ray!! This is all you need for ground control. I’m no longer into frsky and stuff so I got the elrs version which is the best but I can still use all of my old receivers too with the nano module. 🍺🍺🍺
the whole radio is programable. you can make it do whatever you want. dont cut off nubs on cover or anything of the sort. look into programming the radio
But what I just don't understand is the difference between the ELRS receivers and this 4in1 module... because the ELRS are good for speedruns and bashers, because over 1km range with low latency, but what you should use 4in1 for, I don't get it... can you explain?
I want to know if this (with the 4-in-1 module) will work with the Losi Promoto mx 1/4-scale motorcycle and, if so, how you would need to program it for that RC motorcycle. It would also be interesting to see if this motor cycle will work as well with a ELRS receiver but I doubt it as the receiver provides some stabilization functionality.
I can’t really tell you. I don’t have one of them bikes 🏍️ myself to try. But if it already has a pwm receiver and it is controlled with a hand wheel remote, I don’t see why not.
@@RCEscape I do not know. I currently do not have a way of reverse engineering it and hoping a channel reviewing this radio would have the bike and create a video where they make it work.
Unfortuantely no, ELRS is not compatible and the Multiprotocol module doesn't supprot Flysky's AFHDS3 protocol which is what the Noble uses. It does support the older AFHDS2 protocol though. The good news is ELRS receivers are 15 bucks. I think the ELRS variant is the one to get. Unless you have a bunch of Traxxas stuff you could bind the MPM too, it looks like Traxxas is supported it's mentioned on the mpm website.
So Im in the same boat as you, I just found the FRM-303 Module is used for AFHDS3. The only issue Im seeing is that the module doesn't have a nano connector .. yet. My guess is once this drops if they want to convert all of us AFHDS3 users they will have to have a nano adapter of some sort. Unless it already exists. Also I am seeing that the module cant use ibus2. However, I did pre-order a 4-in-1 as I have a bunch of other cars Id love to grab up into 1 receiver I can't grab with my NB4 and as soon as a module adapter comes out should knock it all out at once. Or as they were saying the Receivers are in fact cheap. But I want telemetry like temperature and voltage not sure how those will work with the new receivers (voltage looks like out of the box) but adding temp sensors etc. so gonna wait and see.
@@KrystmX Yeah tough call on the temp sensors. I do think adapters exist to convert a nano sized module bay to a jull JR bay to fit your FRM-303 but it's probably quite bulky. I think 4in1 mt12 and adding the 40 dollar 1000mw ranger nano elrs module are the best way to equip this radio. Cheaper than adding 4in1 after the fact if you got the elrs version and you get 1000mw output on the ranger micro instead of 250mw output with internal elrs
@@rcvg69420yeah I’m still debating. Def know the elrs add on is more power and further. Planning to do some fpv so that will be helpful. Would just love not to replace 6x recievers. But if I can diy the sensor telemetry I’d be down for sure. Temp and voltage are my big ones but gps for speed would be great too. Currently in my Nb4 I have to choose gps or temp since I didn’t realize I couldn’t mix and match ibus 1/2. Temp is more important so I usually watch that and turn on gps for speed checks.
@@KrystmX at the moment you would need to use inav on a flight controller to get the telemetry you want. Not totally sure it has temperature. You can do gps and speed though. With elrs or crossfire as the radio protocol.
Am I crazy for thinking the 4in1 is just far superior due to being able to use so many receivers? I'd never need to buy the module, just keep buying other receivers...
No, that's what I think, too. Especially the cheap Flysky receivers are an ideal match. But it doesn't stop there, since I should be able to control my Radiolink receivers and my WLToys stuff, too. Only thing is, that EdgeTX needs maybe a few additions or changes, since it is optimized for fixed and rotating wings vehicles.
Yeah you are 100% crazy. ELRS is the main reason to buy this. Why would you care if it works with your existing protocols? The Rx for this are only $15....
@@keldonator so, the whole reason this radio is great is *because* of expressLRS (ELRS). ExpressLRS is a low latency long range radio link, currently most used for FPV drones. Getting 10-30km out is easily attainable (not on a car, you won't get that far that close to the ground). If you just zip around in front of your house, meh. But if you are a racer that cares about latency, expressLRS is on par with (if not, better than) the fastest links currently available from Sanwa and Futaba for 1/6th the price. If you want to put FPV on a truck and go explore the woods, this has the range to go super far out. Orders of magnitude further than anything in a surface radio today. If you want to have a drag car that you don't have to worry about being out of range as soon as it's up to speed, this has more range than you could ever need. The 4in1 is .... Fine I guess. EdgeTX is super powerful and can do great stuff. But knowing what settings to change in the radio and learning to use edgeTX may not be what the average RTR customer is willing to jump through for it to be worth trying to consolidate everything into a single radio (I imagine that is the reason you would be interested in using the 4in1). It would be way easier to just fork out the extra $15-$20 per car to move them to ELRS and use the ELRS version than have to fumble with all that. I have a 4in1 module in my dual stick radio, and it doesn't even have an antenna plugged into it because im always running a ghost or ELRS module in it 🤷
@@keldonator to add, I guess It just boils down to what you want. you 100% thought the 4in1 looked like the obvious buy. Whereas for me, the only reason this radio is even on my radar is its the first ELRS radio for surface, something a select few have really been holding out hope would some day exist, and here it is. I guess thats why they make both haha.
Here is a list of what the 4in1 mpm supports. Traxxas is number43 It does not support mobile apps connection. www.multi-module.org/basics/supported-protocols
Surely it would make more sense to get the 4 in 1 version then just use either an Elrs or crossfire module? That pretty much cover you for everything under the sun.
@@RCEscape ah, 250mw. That's pretty good fair play. To be honest, for a land vehicle you would never ever even get close to the full range capabilities of 250mw elrs
That’s what I was thinking because I don’t need the long range but they are recommending the EDGE. I’m thinking I’m going to hold up on ordering one to I’m sure I can use it with my DSMR and my other one’s
@@TommyMartinMSRRC EDGE TX is the OS, like windows, its pretty much the same as the radiomaster zorro in capabilities. ELRS is the OpenSource Protocol used if you like to go long distance, choose the 4in1 if you want a controller to rule them all as for DSMR, im not sure.
00:00 musical unbox
01:38 intro mt12 surface radio
04:48 er3c-i
05:39 closer look
13:06 binding to er5c
17:49 binding to er3c-i
23:55 rc boat bind er4
29:53 bind to frsky x4r
33:23 binding to flysky fsia6
36:49 final words
Other TX RX systems is in the stone age now. Happy i found this one. I need the long range this one do.
Get a radiolink rc8x
I think the general RC hobby needed this very much. :D
For sure! The marriage of EdgeTX and pistol grip plus external module bay. You could now theoretically fly anything with the MT12 as well.
As an FPV Drone pilot who uses A radiomaster Radio and ExpressLRS on all my drones I am beyond excited to be able to move my surface RC over to the ecosystem, I hope the RC community takes to this radio and it becomes as popular there as it is in the FPV community. I would say 85% of FPV pilot use a Radiomaster Radio.
Yep! You don't need anything else :)
Is it faster and better than a Futaba or Sanwa?
@@spartang.1388
Well, I don't know about futaba and sanwa but elr is faster than most links out there with a latency of 6.5ms (at 200hz). At 250hz 100mW 2.4GHz it is capable of ranges 30km+
If they would put in a VTX with head motion with walksnail it would be a real go out and buy one. And yes besides my Dji gear I love my Radiomaster TX16s and other RC aircraft, and drones. Love the gamble upgrades. It not a toy it’s perfection not like DJI
Yep got one on pre order for speed running. No more strapping on wifi boosters.
Dude you are a great teacher. It's very easy to learn from you. Saving this video for future reference. Very much appreciate this video. Subbed
Thanks so much!!
Radiomaster makes good stuff. I'm excited to see them get a ground radio out there. They are going to sell so many of these!
Finally radiomaster m12 review for showing how it works with other brand recievers. Thanks!
Thanks for tuning in and watching it that far into the video :) 👍
holllllyyy my prayers have been answered!
Epic review Pete. This is one amazing controller. This is taking the RC cars to a different level 👍🙏👍🙏
Thanks Ray!! This is all you need for ground control. I’m no longer into frsky and stuff so I got the elrs version which is the best but I can still use all of my old receivers too with the nano module. 🍺🍺🍺
I love my Radiomaster MT12,
Comprehensive review thanks. That's one for my Christmas list.
It is a good one Keith! With this, you can get the REAL Hobby Grade surface models and don't have to worry about losing control.
Really good video on this tx Pete, I may have to get this one.
Thanks Greg! Either one is just as good as the other. It is one amazing controller. One surface remote to control them all!
sweet radio brother pete!
im sure it has variable steering/throttle rates as well...
this would be nice in the rc dragracing world as well!
It’s just like a RadioMaster TX but in a hand wheel form factor. It even has Hall effect sensors forgot to mention :)
You can also Modify this to Left hand drive. But idk what to do with the thumb switches
the whole radio is programable. you can make it do whatever you want. dont cut off nubs on cover or anything of the sort. look into programming the radio
But what I just don't understand is the difference between the ELRS receivers and this 4in1 module... because the ELRS are good for speedruns and bashers, because over 1km range with low latency, but what you should use 4in1 for, I don't get it... can you explain?
4in1 is for binding other companies receivers to your remote, instead of ELRS.
This is so you can use your new remote with your old receivers.
That’s what I’m try to find out too. I used spectrum DSMR receiver and I have not gotten a straight answer yet
Does the radio still fit in the case with the module attached Great video thank you
Unfortunately, it does not. Sorry. I wish that it did fit too :)
There are a few people who managed to install the second module inside the regular transmitter case.
after listening to your voice for so long you kinda started sounding like tom hanks lol
"Wilson!!!" lol
Not really.
I want to know if this (with the 4-in-1 module) will work with the Losi Promoto mx 1/4-scale motorcycle and, if so, how you would need to program it for that RC motorcycle. It would also be interesting to see if this motor cycle will work as well with a ELRS receiver but I doubt it as the receiver provides some stabilization functionality.
I can’t really tell you. I don’t have one of them bikes 🏍️ myself to try. But if it already has a pwm receiver and it is controlled with a hand wheel remote, I don’t see why not.
@@RCEscapeAs far as I can tell, it is a Spektrum Gyro Stabilized Receiver so it is the "Gyro Stabilizer" functionality that I am concerned about.
@@bitogre
Is the gyro stabilizer on a channel? If it is then you can assign it to one of the rotary dials to control the sensitivity.
@@RCEscape I do not know. I currently do not have a way of reverse engineering it and hoping a channel reviewing this radio would have the bike and create a video where they make it work.
no gyro use with the compatible receivers like flysky or traxxas? I couldn't find it
nope. I couldn't find anything either.
Hi can I use that exact radio on my fms trucks with the external antenna
here are the supported protocols
www.multi-module.org/basics/supported-protocols
All my surface stuff is setup with a flysky noble. Would the module here be compatible with those receivers?
Unfortuantely no, ELRS is not compatible and the Multiprotocol module doesn't supprot Flysky's AFHDS3 protocol which is what the Noble uses. It does support the older AFHDS2 protocol though.
The good news is ELRS receivers are 15 bucks. I think the ELRS variant is the one to get. Unless you have a bunch of Traxxas stuff you could bind the MPM too, it looks like Traxxas is supported it's mentioned on the mpm website.
So Im in the same boat as you, I just found the FRM-303 Module is used for AFHDS3. The only issue Im seeing is that the module doesn't have a nano connector .. yet. My guess is once this drops if they want to convert all of us AFHDS3 users they will have to have a nano adapter of some sort. Unless it already exists. Also I am seeing that the module cant use ibus2. However, I did pre-order a 4-in-1 as I have a bunch of other cars Id love to grab up into 1 receiver I can't grab with my NB4 and as soon as a module adapter comes out should knock it all out at once. Or as they were saying the Receivers are in fact cheap. But I want telemetry like temperature and voltage not sure how those will work with the new receivers (voltage looks like out of the box) but adding temp sensors etc. so gonna wait and see.
@@KrystmX Yeah tough call on the temp sensors. I do think adapters exist to convert a nano sized module bay to a jull JR bay to fit your FRM-303 but it's probably quite bulky.
I think 4in1 mt12 and adding the 40 dollar 1000mw ranger nano elrs module are the best way to equip this radio. Cheaper than adding 4in1 after the fact if you got the elrs version and you get 1000mw output on the ranger micro instead of 250mw output with internal elrs
@@rcvg69420yeah I’m still debating. Def know the elrs add on is more power and further. Planning to do some fpv so that will be helpful. Would just love not to replace 6x recievers. But if I can diy the sensor telemetry I’d be down for sure. Temp and voltage are my big ones but gps for speed would be great too. Currently in my Nb4 I have to choose gps or temp since I didn’t realize I couldn’t mix and match ibus 1/2. Temp is more important so I usually watch that and turn on gps for speed checks.
@@KrystmX at the moment you would need to use inav on a flight controller to get the telemetry you want. Not totally sure it has temperature. You can do gps and speed though. With elrs or crossfire as the radio protocol.
Hello, its possible to conect some gps sensor to this radio? it's very important for using with rc boats.
I'm not sure how you would do that to your rc boat. The receiver has to be gps module ready or have some type of a control board to add gps module.
You could use one of the smaller non-PWM receivers combined with the Matek CRSF-PWM-6 which can connect to a GPS.
Am I crazy for thinking the 4in1 is just far superior due to being able to use so many receivers? I'd never need to buy the module, just keep buying other receivers...
No, that's what I think, too. Especially the cheap Flysky receivers are an ideal match. But it doesn't stop there, since I should be able to control my Radiolink receivers and my WLToys stuff, too. Only thing is, that EdgeTX needs maybe a few additions or changes, since it is optimized for fixed and rotating wings vehicles.
Yeah you are 100% crazy. ELRS is the main reason to buy this. Why would you care if it works with your existing protocols? The Rx for this are only $15....
@@mouseFPV Why is it better? Why does it matter what receiver you use... I already have a bunch of receivers lol.
@@keldonator so, the whole reason this radio is great is *because* of expressLRS (ELRS).
ExpressLRS is a low latency long range radio link, currently most used for FPV drones. Getting 10-30km out is easily attainable (not on a car, you won't get that far that close to the ground).
If you just zip around in front of your house, meh. But if you are a racer that cares about latency, expressLRS is on par with (if not, better than) the fastest links currently available from Sanwa and Futaba for 1/6th the price.
If you want to put FPV on a truck and go explore the woods, this has the range to go super far out. Orders of magnitude further than anything in a surface radio today.
If you want to have a drag car that you don't have to worry about being out of range as soon as it's up to speed, this has more range than you could ever need.
The 4in1 is .... Fine I guess. EdgeTX is super powerful and can do great stuff. But knowing what settings to change in the radio and learning to use edgeTX may not be what the average RTR customer is willing to jump through for it to be worth trying to consolidate everything into a single radio (I imagine that is the reason you would be interested in using the 4in1). It would be way easier to just fork out the extra $15-$20 per car to move them to ELRS and use the ELRS version than have to fumble with all that.
I have a 4in1 module in my dual stick radio, and it doesn't even have an antenna plugged into it because im always running a ghost or ELRS module in it 🤷
@@keldonator to add, I guess It just boils down to what you want. you 100% thought the 4in1 looked like the obvious buy. Whereas for me, the only reason this radio is even on my radar is its the first ELRS radio for surface, something a select few have really been holding out hope would some day exist, and here it is.
I guess thats why they make both haha.
I really want this Radio. But Do you guys know if it will work witch traxxas link. Like the mobile app you can see how fast your car is going?
Here is a list of what the 4in1 mpm supports.
Traxxas is number43
It does not support mobile apps connection.
www.multi-module.org/basics/supported-protocols
Surely it would make more sense to get the 4 in 1 version then just use either an Elrs or crossfire module? That pretty much cover you for everything under the sun.
Either way is good brother. Just a note. The elrs supports up to 250mW.
@@RCEscape ah, 250mw. That's pretty good fair play. To be honest, for a land vehicle you would never ever even get close to the full range capabilities of 250mw elrs
@@k1ortia
It may well come into play if you like to fpv your surface rc models. However, the elrs external modules do support higher mW outputs.
@@k1ortia
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Will it work with spectrum sr receiver???
You can check it out here.
www.multi-module.org/basics/supported-protocols
They said it will not bind with Spektrum DSMR receiver
@@TommyMartinMSRRCget the 4 in 1 version
That’s what I was thinking because I don’t need the long range but they are recommending the EDGE. I’m thinking I’m going to hold up on ordering one to I’m sure I can use it with my DSMR and my other one’s
@@TommyMartinMSRRC EDGE TX is the OS, like windows, its pretty much the same as the radiomaster zorro in capabilities.
ELRS is the OpenSource Protocol used if you like to go long distance, choose the 4in1 if you want a controller to rule them all
as for DSMR, im not sure.
33:22 your using the radio wrong 😂😂😂😂😢
"1: the best natural number with a value less than 2" ... well, there's no arguing with your title's claim at least. 😇
There are absolutely no logic in the menu on that radio, i dont understand why they used such an old menu system, it suck.