Hello , Jad . What is the difference between 4th Suit forcing and XYZ after the sequence 1 C - 1 D-1 H or 1 C-1 D- 1 S ? When the rebid of the opener is 1 NT, its clear , what about if it s a new suit? How can we diferentiate 4thSF to an XYZ in this case ? A presentation of this 2 conventions in the mirror would be very useful . Regards
Hi Bogdan. I will be making an episode on XYZ in the future, but here is the quick answer to your question. With XYZ, the 2C and 2D bids are artificial and very specific, even if those suits have been bid previously. If you are playing XYZ, there is no need to play 4th suit forcing over a 1-1-1 sequence of bids. You just use 2D as the forcing bid. You still use 4th suit forcing if one of the first three bids is a suit at the 2 level. Of course you can’t use XYZ because that requires three bids at the one level. I hope this helps you. Cheers.
Good day M Delokk, in the first board, if I had a stopper in club, I should bid 3NT. I'm I correct? Or should I have more than 1 stopper? Also, still with board 1, if my 4 hearts had no stoppers, how would partner know? Partner could bid 3NT thinking I have a stopper in the Heart suit if it's the only suit that he doesn't have a stopper. Thank you very much!!
Hi JD. The sort answer to your first question is YES, bid 3 NT. But, there is a more advanced possibility available if you play XYZ, which I explain in Extensions Topic 17.
Hey JD. In answer to your second question, any 4 cards in a suit is considered a stopper. If you don’t have a high card stopper, you must have high cards in other suits. It also increases the likelihood that Partner has a stopper in Hearts. You should still bid as shown in the video.
@@jadbridge Great! I will look at XYZ when I have mastered the 4th suit forcing so to not get confused. Thank you M Delokk. You are the best teacher!!!
Hi JD. It’s quite the opposite. I consider 4th suit forcing essential with 2/1. You will see this in the first 2/1 episode. Good luck with 2/1, which is a good step forward.
Good day M Delokk, in the situation of 1c, 1d, 1h, 1s, or in the situation of 1c, 1d, 1s, 1nt, if the player has 5 hearts, he/she should rebid hearts? I always wondered about that, even if it's not 4th suit forcing. For exemple, my partner bid 1c and I bid 1h, do I rebid hearts if I have 5 hearts (in the case where partner rebid with 1nt)? If yes, do I need more than 13 points? In a competitive auction it's simple, I would double with 4 hearts and bid 1 heart with 5. I would love some clarifications. Thank you very much!
Hi JD. This is a good question which I see often. This is the way I approach it. In order to rebid my suit at the 2 level when Partner has not supported it, I need two things: at least one extra card for the rebid in the suit and at least 10 points to bid at the 2 level. In your example, Partner is showing 13-14 points so you need to be careful to stop below game if you have 10-11 points. I hope this helps. Cheers.
Thank you very much M Delokk! I just subscribed to BBO+ which allows to set deals with exact types of hand. This is extraordinary because I can practice 4th suit forcing on every deals for as long as I want. I just have to ask BBO to deal any of those shape 4333-4432-5332 for North and south with 14 points in both hands so not to open with 1NT. It’s a little difficult to set up but I’m getting the hang of it. With all your teaching and help I feel I’m progressing very well. I couldn’t have done it without your videos!! Thank you for being so generous with your time and knowledge.
Hello, Jad Can we apply bidding conventions after the 2nd bid of the opener ? For example in open 1 H, partner bids 1 S and I bid 1 NT ( or 2 NT) . Can we plat Stayman after partner answers 2 C ( or 3 C) ?
Hi Bogdan, good question. Because you and Partner have already bid some suits, the answer to your question is no. Stayman and transfers don’t apply unless the 1NT is an opening bid. There is one exception but it is at the 2 level. If Partner opens 2C and you reply 2D and Partner bids 2NT you can use Stayman and Transfers. This situation is different because the only bids before the NT bid are artificial, so they don’t show a suit. Basically this sequence is a NT opening that is stronger than 2NT but weaker than 3NT.
Thanks for a very clear explanation . I have loved your Learn To Play series !
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Hello , Jad . What is the difference between 4th Suit forcing and XYZ after the sequence 1 C - 1 D-1 H or 1 C-1 D- 1 S ? When the rebid of the opener is 1 NT, its clear , what about if it s a new suit? How can we diferentiate 4thSF to an XYZ in this case ? A presentation of this 2 conventions in the mirror would be very useful .
Regards
Hi Bogdan. I will be making an episode on XYZ in the future, but here is the quick answer to your question. With XYZ, the 2C and 2D bids are artificial and very specific, even if those suits have been bid previously. If you are playing XYZ, there is no need to play 4th suit forcing over a 1-1-1 sequence of bids. You just use 2D as the forcing bid. You still use 4th suit forcing if one of the first three bids is a suit at the 2 level. Of course you can’t use XYZ because that requires three bids at the one level. I hope this helps you. Cheers.
Good day M Delokk, in the first board, if I had a stopper in club, I should bid 3NT. I'm I correct? Or should I have more than 1 stopper? Also, still with board 1, if my 4 hearts had no stoppers, how would partner know? Partner could bid 3NT thinking I have a stopper in the Heart suit if it's the only suit that he doesn't have a stopper. Thank you very much!!
Hi JD. The sort answer to your first question is YES, bid 3 NT. But, there is a more advanced possibility available if you play XYZ, which I explain in Extensions Topic 17.
Hey JD. In answer to your second question, any 4 cards in a suit is considered a stopper. If you don’t have a high card stopper, you must have high cards in other suits. It also increases the likelihood that Partner has a stopper in Hearts. You should still bid as shown in the video.
@@jadbridge Great! I will look at XYZ when I have mastered the 4th suit forcing so to not get confused. Thank you M Delokk. You are the best teacher!!!
Hello again, I'm planning to start playing with the 2/1 convention. Is the 4th suit forcing obsolete with that system? Thank you
Hi JD. It’s quite the opposite. I consider 4th suit forcing essential with 2/1. You will see this in the first 2/1 episode. Good luck with 2/1, which is a good step forward.
@@jadbridge Fantastic!!!
Good day M Delokk, in the situation of 1c, 1d, 1h, 1s, or in the situation of 1c, 1d, 1s, 1nt, if the player has 5 hearts, he/she should rebid hearts? I always wondered about that, even if it's not 4th suit forcing. For exemple, my partner bid 1c and I bid 1h, do I rebid hearts if I have 5 hearts (in the case where partner rebid with 1nt)? If yes, do I need more than 13 points? In a competitive auction it's simple, I would double with 4 hearts and bid 1 heart with 5. I would love some clarifications. Thank you very much!
Hi JD. This is a good question which I see often. This is the way I approach it. In order to rebid my suit at the 2 level when Partner has not supported it, I need two things: at least one extra card for the rebid in the suit and at least 10 points to bid at the 2 level. In your example, Partner is showing 13-14 points so you need to be careful to stop below game if you have 10-11 points. I hope this helps. Cheers.
Thank you very much M Delokk! I just subscribed to BBO+ which allows to set deals with exact types of hand. This is extraordinary because I can practice 4th suit forcing on every deals for as long as I want. I just have to ask BBO to deal any of those shape 4333-4432-5332 for North and south with 14 points in both hands so not to open with 1NT. It’s a little difficult to set up but I’m getting the hang of it. With all your teaching and help I feel I’m progressing very well. I couldn’t have done it without your videos!! Thank you for being so generous with your time and knowledge.
Hi JD. That’s fantastic. Thanks for keeping me updated.
Hello, Jad
Can we apply bidding conventions after the 2nd bid of the opener ? For example in open 1 H, partner bids 1 S and I bid 1 NT ( or 2 NT) . Can we plat Stayman after partner answers 2 C ( or 3 C) ?
Hi Bogdan, good question. Because you and Partner have already bid some suits, the answer to your question is no. Stayman and transfers don’t apply unless the 1NT is an opening bid. There is one exception but it is at the 2 level. If Partner opens 2C and you reply 2D and Partner bids 2NT you can use Stayman and Transfers. This situation is different because the only bids before the NT bid are artificial, so they don’t show a suit. Basically this sequence is a NT opening that is stronger than 2NT but weaker than 3NT.