what can never be excused is the way Luttrelle has treated Guhlab… that man risked his life, the lives of his family and his entire village protecting Luttrel. thats alone explains EVERYTHING anyone needs to know.
He looked much older than 22. In a good and impressive way, not in a bad way. May he rest in peace. I’ve heard great things about him from an interview with I think one of his brothers.
I think you are mistaking the humility that is beaten into us at a young age for maturity. That really shows up on the battlefield. Ask the maintenance folks who repair the barracks, the frat boys at nearby universities, and the MPs in the towns where the 3 battalions are and I think they will have a different idea about a Rangers maturity. But yes they are humble, competent and ruthless warriors.
@@dline6634 Yeah, I get that. Really just calling out how they present themselves to the public when recounting their actions. They're not brazen self-promoters. BTW, I have a son who's currently in RASP.
@@Mike___Kilo That is awesome that your son is there now. I meant no disrespect to the young men who go through it everyday. As a matter of fact I believe that the NCOs that are currently at the top of that organization are well equipped to reign in the testosterone fueled antics of the current generation and I would be much more worried if I never heard of a single instance of normal 18-25 year old male behavior. As long as they don’t become hoodlums and brigands 😉 I hope your son makes it through, and even if he doesn’t I want to thank him and your entire family for the commitment that it takes to try.
@@toynazi What lies about Jocko? I was a Corpsman and part of the Marine battalion when Jocko's team was there. We didn't know who Jocko and Chris were. They were just the SEALs. Chris is dead. Maybe you should have served if you have all this anger with something you weren't part of (assuming you're a desk jock). I think I saw an interview where guys were blaming the SEALs for deaths. They did have different rules of engagement while they were standing watch in the house we took. They would do things like shoot people we wouldn't have been able to engage while they were in the house. When they left we were attacked. Is that what you were referring to? Were you one of the Marines I served with?
@@txnhb First off. If you were a Corpsman, I salute you man. No I wasn't a Marine. I was in the 82nd for a number of years. Most of the lies I was referring to was on Chris Kyle's side. They did alot of stupid shit that ended up getting guys shot that came in after they rolled out of multiple areas. I have a childhood friend who was in a unit that worked alongside TUB. I have heard it from more guys than just him also. I think part of the issue they have is he roams around now doing talking tours about leadership and making loads of money doing it. While his past leadership roles were shit shows at best.
When is the seal community going to own up to this being not only a very poorly planned mission but also a massive loss of skilled lives that didn’t need to die the ways they did. Who signed off on this mission?
Read code over country . Seals are the sources, good ones , trying to save the soul of the brand. John champmens cover up and denial for his M.O.S. started a cancer of cover ups and lies started on ROBERTS RIDGE
With what is coming out, along with what will come out with operators from all branches start retiring. There is a common theme and that is toxic leadership. You never heard of SEALs from the 60's, 70's and the 80's writing books. Getting movie deals basically acting like a bunch of peacocks saying "look at me, I'm so great". No, they were still quiet and professional. If you ran into one in a store or a bar. You would not know they were ever a SEAL. It seems everything changed around 1990. You have to start at the top leadership, and work your way down. They are the one's who have to set the example. If the leadership is toxic. That example works it's way down the ranks. It's time they go back to being quiet professionals.
It will never happen. The navy’s numbers SKYROCKETED after these seal documentaries and movies all came out. They lure dumb people who want to be “hero’s” into jointing the navy thinking they have what it takes to be seals 99% of them fail miserably and end up chipping paint or scrubbing toilets on a ship in the middle of the ocean for 4 years instead. They knew they could turn a huge failure into a giant publicity stunt by having that “one survivor” who is a coward by the way. The funniest part is the Navy Seals aren’t even tier 1 operators sure Seal Team 6 is whoever the rest of the teams are tier 2. However because of all these movies and documentaries and books everyone thinks that they are the top of the line when it comes to our military when they are not.
I was in a PTSD recovery clinic with a great CID officer, who had to search through all the bodies from the helicopter that was shot down, to look for a piece of paper that might have had Marcus location.. heard the story in group therapy before any books or movies were written
Should have called the movie "The Running Man". Hilarious how the US government acts like Vought International and goes "let's make a Hollywood version where he doesn't run off and leave his buddies to die. We can spin it against the 'liberal' media and turn this into a recruitment opportunity".
@@Doggo-frenctonI don’t think he was being political at all but if he was then that’s the only wrong thing he said but everything else is facts Marcus ran and hid while hearing his friends cry out for his help since he was the medic of the unit he’s not the hero they made it out like
There was never “50-100” taliban fighters it was only 8-14 and it was the cattle herders that gave them up , the fast rope was dropped and they heard the bird in the area that night and they found the fast rope and tracked them
There was never “50-100” taliban fighters it was only 8-14 and it was the cattle herders that gave them up , the fast rope was dropped and they heard the bird in the area that night and they found the fast rope and tracked them
@@paullevins5448you dudes that want Marcus to be this Rambo style hero. He lied, the mission was a complete failure they got ambushed by no more than 12 dudes and that’s me giving them the high end. They all died fighting except for the only guy who survived. IT WAS not only a huge mistake by the navy to do this mission but they also failed miserably and lost half of a damn team to this one mission. It sucks it’s horrible but it also is what it is… Stop sticking up for a liar and a betrayer to this country and his fucking friends who he swore to protect at any cost. He’s a coward and a fraud
@@samuelgustavsson1483 You imagine that ? With the terrain as steep as it is in that area. You think that someone could sprint in that area. He dropped his weapon ? You saw him drop his weapon ? I guess you imagined all of that. You know if you were not there and making assumptions . You ought to keep that opinion to yourself. You were not there. Who did you serve with, what branch and organization? You were not there! Don’t tarnish what this man survived!…
It’s sad the REAL story of “LoNE sUrViVor” rarely gets told and called out all of the rescue team knows what Marcus told them initially didn’t add up with the evidence at hand smh left with 11 mags and came back with all 11 he ran and hid abandoning his brothers at arms the 3 seals are the real hero’s
@@610610billy610610 he was only next to one of the guys who got killed , axel survived and didn’t die until 8 days later they found him dead on the 10th day sitting by a tree next to the rally point also if he did take mags from a guy it’s just coincidentally that he still had the same exact amount he left with ? Not off one or two either extra or less? Stop the cap and look into it more
If not mistaken, I'm only a few min into video. But the 1st Ranger was on both the Redwings and Extortion 17 recovery missions. He's seen some shit. True Patriot.🇺🇲💪🇺🇲💪
I watch every red wings pod I can,I'll take bites,of different soldiers, at the event telling the story,then switch to different soldier,to hear what he was dealing with at the same time,but up on the hill ,then hear from a pilot that was circles up high,etc,it would be a great idea,so if yall do it first,your welcome
awesome job and i can tell ya when he said it was a lot of fighting over who had command.. I personally never knew the rrc/rrd was out there . I do hate the 82nd secured the site helped with recovery never get a mention hell then got left out there
They even send kids to pick up the cases after firefights, to reuse them. The only thing they leave behind is ied:s. But you really think they leave their dead and you really think they would stay there when they knew a bunch of american soldiers, with all kinds of backup would come there? 🙄 They knew hitting that heli would make a whole lot of american soldiers really pissed.
I feeel bad for that pilot. He read a book that wasn’t written by Marcus. In fact,it was a budget version of Tom Clancy that wrote that book because they didn’t even spell the name of the operation correctly on the front. Its operation red wings while the book says operation redwing which is a whole different operation.
According to many the Navy gave him two choices. Face a court martial, or go with the story the navy came up with and live the rest of his life as a millionaire. After recent revelations I lost respect in the Navy Spec Ops community and leadership.
@@AirborneAntHell, Luttrell said he broke and curled up into a ball on gd “Larry King Live” during his first interview. NSW didn’t like that *at all*, so the story changed. But he admitted to it…we all just somehow forgot 😵💫.
@wimwak really then why was Luttrell aloud to redeploy to Iraq AFTER Redwings if he ran away and this is supposed common knowledge Eric Denning started all this bs cause wanted the lime light
The Rangers were also the first guys to reach Extortion 17 when it happened too.They supposedly got there within 41 seconds after the crash.They done the body recovery on it too,just like on Redwings.
I really don't think anyone should put Marcus down. Most people wouldn't have even been there in the first place. Let alone with only 4 people. This, in my opinion, is all the higher-ups fault. This route of mission made no sense. And considering it was all for a "lower tiered" terrorist.
Rrc also was on mj hegars pave hawk recovery, I gave them a ride and some tools 🇺🇸😘 “shoot like a girl” similar to lone survivor! I was there 😎, still have her patch from the helicopter
I love all the weekend operators in the comments that have never saw combat clowning Luttrell, he said he dropped his rifle he said he was a coward what else do you want
@@K.Miller5150 Serious response. I was with 3/3 and we left that AO a month before everything went down. I did my research and everything comes back to Lettrell lying. First they got ambused by 100 fighters in Luttrells book, then 50 in Lt Murpheys MOH reading. I will post a link to the video of the 8 fighters that took out Lettrells team.
People trash Latrell, but just listen to how many people got hurt or had to be trucked out just looking for him. Nobody says he didnt have any bullet wounds or injuries. So just the fact that he stayed alive is impressive in my book. Take all the lone survivor stuff out of it.
The difference between luttrell and those rangers that got injured/exhausted in that incident, is that the rangers are honest. If you asked any of those rangers referenced they wouldn't lie about about happened while they were looking for luttrell. Luttrell is lying about what happened that time. Im not saying luttrells not tough, im saying he's a liar and is shitting on his teammates memories by not telling the truth.
Wow,this is the first time I am hearing about an A10 shooting white phosphorus at the crash site… could that have destroyed the bird? Seems pretty risky to shoot around the bird after a crash with jet fuel!!!
Hey Jack and Dave, great episode. I'm catching up on your posts and saw one a while ago asking for suggestions for future guests. I don't know if you guys are still looking but if you are I'd like to suggest someone from Cobra Commandos from CRPF India, a few of their officers have come online to talk about their experiences. It is part of the Central Armed Police Forces (paramilitary) specialising in Jungle warfare mostly against communist insurgents. Some of them also went on to join NSG, the counter-terror unit. I think you guys will ask the pertinent questions. There are other interesting units as well. But these guys are pretty cool.
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This sounds a lot like the cluster fuck that things always become when shit goes south. It’s always a bonus when it goes smooth and nobody gets hurt/killed, usually doesn’t happen though.
As a soldier myself the entire lone survivor story has me very conflicted. On one hand I understand that we’re human beings, i don’t care who you are when shit genuinely hits the fan you don’t know how you’ll do or what your mind will force you to do. On the other hand i absolutely can’t picture any scenario where I hear my guys screaming my name for help and I hear it just to run……..why even sign up and put on the damn uniform……..
@@BoxheadHakx most likely a shoulder launched SAM - search up and listen to some of the accounts and analysis of this “Lone Survivor” mission and ORR that arent being told from the SEAL branded narrative side - analysis from people who know stuff about stuff - for example why would the A10 launch flares and 2 other helos burst out so fast they almost collide with the gunships? This guy is a pilot yes and he was there - that being said his recount of that part of the story doesnt match what would happen if it had been an RPG - A10s and blackhawks with apache escorts arent afraid of RPGs - they just frag the area - the downed Chinook wasnt an issue for friendly fire bc it had already rolled down the mountain - dont take my word for it though - search out the other accounts and stories yourself and you will find that these narratives dont hold water - you could start with the AntiHero podcast - they have a great episode there that will start you down the path of truth when it comes to this narrative and what really happened
@gordo3697 I don't see your point . Seal team six is a tier one right next to delta who are the best of the best. So you're comment has not substance to it
Marcus said he got knocked out about 5 times during the ordeal.. then how does he remember shit so clearly. I was knocked out in a boxing match and till this day I can’t remember after except for the fighter introductions.
On the video cam it cuts off at 11:00 most likely that was them coming by. And if they stayed a little longer maybe axe couldve been saved. At 10:30 axe was fighting alone cause there wasnt alot of gun fire and before that you could hear the rpg fired at them.
Here’s my take. Luttrell seems quite a tortured man. IF he did fabricate elements of the story - I believe he was told to do it by higher ups, to damage control to protect the Seal branding. I think they persuaded him of the importance of retaining peoples positive view of the Seals, retaining the respect. I do not believe that he fabricated parts of the story for any other reason. Certainly not for money. I think if you listen to the guy interviews, is this man someone who gives a shit about money? I don’t believe that. I suspect that he’s eventually going to commit suicide. That’s my sense of the guy. So I don’t think he’s interested in the money at all. I think he bought into trying to protect the memory of his dead teammates, and protecting the image that the seals have. As a say, I think they prepped him, to believe what he was doing , ultimately would be the best thing for everyone involved…. IF he did fabricate elements of the story
I agree.. A lot of the interviews I’ve seen him in he looks high as a kite, and if asked a direct question he dances around answering it. He gets jittery and stumbles over his words.
He certainly fabricated the story. As team members, the brotherhood, how could you throw Danny under the bus when he was THE only one with experience in that region. I read the book, watch the movie and after ready the AAR, none of it made sense. 200 combatants with around 38 killed, Marines said there wasn’t that many taliban even in the region. Returning with all his mags is a complete tell. I’m embarrassed I fell for it. But it was well choreographed. He chose to lie about what happened. And to protect the SEALS brand? So they can continue to fck up missions?
Marcus is a bitch to flee under fire, leaving his friends for dead, then makes millions of off being a fake hero. That is stolen valor in my opinion. But, I am not in the military so I might not have all the information. Any veterans care to chime in? Much appreciated….cheers mates!
There was an interview video released by the group of militants that were involved in Red Wings. The interview was recorded on 28th June if I recall correctly, according to the timestamp on the video. I saw it on LiveLeak years ago. Anyways, it was recorded shortly after the whole thing. In the interview the militant was speaking a dialect of Pashto. I am a Pashto speaker too and even though the dialect was different to ours, I understood most of it. It was a quite detailed recall of the engagement but the main points were these. He said they were alerted at night to helicopter engine sounds. There were a dozen of them in the small village. He said they left before the sun came out for the hills and one of their guys found the fastrope the SEALs had left behind on insertion, that information was relayed to the rest of the group through radio. As Luttrell wrote in his book, when they set up the observation post, he found the small village vacant (unlike how the movie showed it). Anyways he further said that we spotted the SEALs when they were holding the group of goat herders. When the SEALs let go of the herders, they were followed up the mountain. The militants then split up and set up a 3 way ambush, they opened up on the SEALs with PKMs, AKs and RPGs. The only way left for the SEALs was to go down. SEAL or no SEAL, the kind of ambush they were in was very dangerous, and they were constantly being pinned down by belt fed PKMs. Outgunned, outmanevoured, and outnumbered, the SEALs were in big trouble. The whole thing lasted 20-25 minutes. One more thing I would like to add is that, in the combat video made by the militants, at one point you can hear one of them shout in Pashto "That one is running away, after him, don't let him get away". This was said while you could clearly hear 5.56 suppressed shots being fired by the SEALs. This leads me to believe that out of the 4 SEALs that fought that day, Luttrell was the only one who had a mental breakdown after the sudden ambush and just quit and made a run for it.
@@faqirmohammadabdullah2906it’s be interesting if those guys got interviewed again if there still alive, must be some taliban guys with some crazy stories from the war
I just saw the movie. I was angry of Murphy and Marcus, because they did not take enough responsible to their teammates making a deadly decision , as in the war you should never have mercy for the enemy.
It never really hit me til I started watching these podcasts, why didn’t Marcus end up on that mountain with his teammates? How possibly do you make it out alive and your integrity be in tact. You should’ve been there for your brothers and let them die
Anderson Cooper : So Marcus can you tell us and the American people what happened and what did you do. Marcus Luttrel : well I just started running (Forrest gump voice)
I dont belive it happened at all like marcus says book worse , the movie complete fiction . The seal brand was the only thing that mattered . I think roberts ridge was still effecting them circling the wagons . Seals are the largest draw for navy enlistment .
@@WCC-ps8jtlol it’s well known and basically irrefutable at this point that Luttrell’s account of what happened during ORW is mostly nonsense. But if you really believe the DOD would send 4 Navy SEALs to take on 200 Taliban, 100 Taliban, or even 50 Taliban armed with RPGs, PKM machine guns, AKs. As if the Taliban in pajamas and sandals could move 50 dead bodies off that steep mountain top in sweltering heat, without special equipment and without being spotted by the other Chinook flying overhead. The firefight was so easy for the 7 to 8 enemy fighters that they took time record two videos of the ambush. So you really believe Luttrell fell 90 feet on top of another mountain without even breaking any bones and his rifle still being intact and in his possession??? Right sure. If you believe Luttrell’s account in the book you might as well believe SEALs can walk on the moon with no spacesuit.
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Wasnt 2/3 suppose to conduct this mission? They knew the risks, the area, the issue with comms and they were going to hump in from a much longer distance than the LZ.
I spent 10 years with the Rangers and had some good and challenging times but loved every moment of it. I wouldn't want to be with any other group of men. On this mission, the seals dropped the ball. Poor planning and Marcus left his brothers. Should be tried and convicted. Never leave a man behind. Rangers Lead The Way
You can’t just ‘poof’ and disappear off of a mountain.. it’s a bit of a logistical nightmare. And they had already aborted the mission before comms were lost, they were retreating as they were finding out they didn’t have good comms
You obviously didn't think your comment through did you? So they can just transport off the mountain after they realize comms are bad? Like they don't have people hunting them down. This isn't Star Trek.
Should have just stayed out of the whole thing and let the Marines execute their plan. The SEALs "planning" was so terrible that the mission should have been aborted in the planning room.
Rangers really are the best the US Army has. They are disciplined, extremely well trained, incredibly motivated, lead by exceptional leaders, and only know one thing; how to win in combat. Awesome unit. They remind me of Marines with more money, better training, and higher standards. Rangers Lead The Way!!! Semper Fi!
Sounds like a night mare. forgive the detail but the fast roping seems to have been an issue ..why nylon ropes ? Thought they were all cotton made, less burn...all of these guys seem very dedicated may they all rest in peace...excellent vid...
Ive read the book a few times,and of course watched the movie. Im from a military family, but didnt never join so my knowledge about things aren't very knowledgeable. What was the thing with using the SAT phone,and why is that a no no as portrayed in the movie and book?
I feel people are often too quick to criticize Marcus, bordering on character assassination. Before people hurl insults and truly vile ad hominems, just remind yourself that Marcus lost three friends that day, and nearly lost his life a number of times that day and in the days the followed. And many of the planning and execution decisions were not his to make, so he shouldn't be shouldered with the weight of the tragic results. Did he make any bad calls during the fire fight? Possibly, but i wasnt there getting shot at from above by a numerically superior force, watching all three of my teammates lose their lives, while an entire QRF that was there to save our lives were blown out of the sky. I thought Ed Darack did an excellent job of analyzing the operation and the numerous questionable decisions made by leadership from the very start of planning, all the way to the QRF, and arguably even beyond that into the rescue and recovery efforts. I just think there's just far too much mean-spirited criticism and empty finger-pointing when it comes to people expressing their uninformed opinions on the internet.. but i guess that goes for virtually any polarizing or sensitive subject discussed publicly on the internet.
People looked at the facts of the situation…the interviews given by the people who were involved and Marcus’s own words…that’s where the character assassination came from…it came from AFTER all of that…not BEFORE…
@@BigStrick02I’m sure he thought they were.. what would he have to gain by lying about that? He shouldn’t have said it so matter of fact’ly, but I’m sure there was no ill intent.
Awesome compilation. Exactly what I wanted. I hope more people can see or listen to this. Eric deming said that because of Marcus the retrieval/rescue of dietz,Murphy and axelson was delayed. He said based on the shitty info Marcus gave them they delayed it by many many days and were only found on the 10th day after operation red wings. I called bullshit on that right away because I I knew Marcus wasn’t found till much much later… 7 days according to these guys and the info he gave them may have been shitty but like the last guy said,who would listen to Marcus? He just went through some shit, he’s wounded he’s in shock so yeah they are going to listen to him and delay. Looks like they didn’t delay nor listen to Marcus and found their guys. Axelson might of been alive but it has nothing to do with Marcus delaying his rescue
@@lewismorgan839 He’s part of the cover up of what a disaster the mission was from the get go. Go listen to Deming on The Antihero Podcast EP 66 Marcus Luttrell the Truth. The cover of Chapman’s death, Tillman cover up, reasons for invading Iraq, Bush sheltering the Saudi’s, your government military industrial complex is a corrupt lying machine and will use any means to advance their agenda. Also, let’s all stop worship people in the military like they’re infallible gods. As a veteran I can assure you that we’re just normal flawed people and there are just as many 💩bags in the military as there are outside of it.
In the combat footage you can hear Marcus Luttrell yelling to Michael, as he was making the sat phone call. "Michael, come back, Michael." "Michael, come back." And nearing the end of the footage, you can hear Axelson talking back to Luttrell, after an initial RPG blast. "What happened?" "Michael?" "Where at?" "We gotta get back" "where's michael?" In numerous interviews given, Marcus stated how he was standing up waiving his hands. How all he wanted was for Michael to come back down to him. Marcus also said Axe was still talking to him, before being separated by yet another RPG. Also, Marcus accurately described the wounds on his teammates. He said Dietz got shot through the head, as he was carrying him. In the combat footage, you can see the exit wound on Dietz's left cheek. He also said Murphy suffered a wound to the stomach, a busted face, and was coated in dust. All accurately described by Marcus. Also, Axelson was found by the locals and was buried. The GBs had to bribe them by building generators, paving roads, and bringing livestock so they would reveal the position of Axe. One of the GBs, Travis Osborn said on the team never quit podcast "he had 1 mag in his kit, and 11 rounds in the mag in his gun." There's also a portion in the combat footage where you can hear a deep Texan tone yell "I'm hit" before a suppressed gunshot.
Holy shit the amount of cope in your comment, deep Texas tone 😂. That's clearly Murphy yelling at Marcus, I made a similar comment on the original video sounds like you took my comment and added copium to it.
@@OperationRedWingsarchive yea I know it's truly impossible to talk to you, cause it's Murphy calling Marcus the full vid is on Reddit. At some point one of the Taliban says "look at the one running" then you hear Murphy yell "Marcus comeback"
@@JackDiamond21 I believe you need to get your ears checked. Murphy is from NY so his tone would be theoretically higher than a country man like Marcus. You can decipher who is who. Marcus said in his 60 minutes interview how all he wanted was for Murphy to make his way back down to him. How he was raising his hands, yelling for him to come back down. Murphy ignored him and continued fighting, after making his sat phone call. He was presumably shot incapacitated and yelled for Marcus. However, he couldn't reach Murphy due to the terrain and incoming fire. And no Muja said that now you're just lying bro.
Why is a patrol being lead by a SEAL officer ? Name any Western LRRP or Special Operations force that would have a Officer with Zero experience lead a patrol behind enemy lines?
@@GATOR_MCLUSKY So no NCO small unit leaders that have enough experiance to make sure they have Commo that works...sorry but no one else has those problems
@LongFatJohnston Thanks. I am former unit alum and have worked all over the GWOT and just can't understand the failed commo plan unless they just went full retard
All i got out of this is our military even with all the money in the world got our ass handed to us by dudes with no training wearing pajamas with AKs. Im definitely judging our military.
I wasn’t there and neither were any of you, what we know is that the story we got in the book and the movie are totally bogus. Maybe one day Marcus will have a change of conscience and tell the truth. But because I’ve heard 10 different people tell 10 different stories, I can’t trust anything.
The seals I know are all bad ass people, yes every unit has bad eggs clearly but the people in the spotlight make up like 1% of actual seals, most of them legit won’t ever bring up they were seals or what they did especially during the GWOT
Most seals actually aren’t that great. There’s more and more coming out about the community as a whole and go figure it’s a combination of bad leadership and training, arrogance, and immaturity
what can never be excused is the way Luttrelle has treated Guhlab… that man risked his life, the lives of his family and his entire village protecting Luttrel. thats alone explains EVERYTHING anyone needs to know.
All the guys interviewed on this podcast deserves the millions that Marcus Luttrell received from the movie and his media appearances.
I agree and its a pity he's a liar. I have all the real footage on my channel that tells a much different story then what he claims.
@@ww2historian38 I watch those all the time shame some of them have to be censored though
@@ww2historian38 I am definitely checking out your channel! Cheers my friend! I hope you have a blessed day!
@@ww2historian38 do u have the drone footage?
Amazing compilation of first hand information on the rescue/recovery operation. Thank you
My friend Navy SEAL Shane Patton was killed trying to rescue his teammates.
much respect sorry for your loss dude
The most handsome of the bunch. Sorry for your loss man.
He looked much older than 22. In a good and impressive way, not in a bad way.
May he rest in peace. I’ve heard great things about him from an interview with I think one of his brothers.
Sorry for your loss
Shane was a really talented person. His father was a retired SEAL of 20 years.
I love Rangers. They're so matter of fact. No braggadocio. They join young but just seem to have a maturity about them.
I think you are mistaking the humility that is beaten into us at a young age for maturity. That really shows up on the battlefield. Ask the maintenance folks who repair the barracks, the frat boys at nearby universities, and the MPs in the towns where the 3 battalions are and I think they will have a different idea about a Rangers maturity. But yes they are humble, competent and ruthless warriors.
@@dline6634 Yeah, I get that. Really just calling out how they present themselves to the public when recounting their actions. They're not brazen self-promoters. BTW, I have a son who's currently in RASP.
Rangers lead the way!!!
@@Mike___Kilo That is awesome that your son is there now. I meant no disrespect to the young men who go through it everyday. As a matter of fact I believe that the NCOs that are currently at the top of that organization are well equipped to reign in the testosterone fueled antics of the current generation and I would be much more worried if I never heard of a single instance of normal 18-25 year old male behavior. As long as they don’t become hoodlums and brigands 😉
I hope your son makes it through, and even if he doesn’t I want to thank him and your entire family for the commitment that it takes to try.
😂 The intraservice dick measuring is hilarious. Rangers mature? Humility?
The truth is coming out about…..
Lone Survivor.
Anti hero shout out!!!!
Which is a good thing. Along with all the lies and bullshit from Jocko and Chris liar.
Antihero has been killing it lately.
@@MOBMann Brent Tucker is a real bad ass and very humble as well. Great guy!
@@toynazi What lies about Jocko? I was a Corpsman and part of the Marine battalion when Jocko's team was there. We didn't know who Jocko and Chris were. They were just the SEALs. Chris is dead. Maybe you should have served if you have all this anger with something you weren't part of (assuming you're a desk jock). I think I saw an interview where guys were blaming the SEALs for deaths. They did have different rules of engagement while they were standing watch in the house we took. They would do things like shoot people we wouldn't have been able to engage while they were in the house. When they left we were attacked. Is that what you were referring to? Were you one of the Marines I served with?
@@txnhb First off. If you were a Corpsman, I salute you man.
No I wasn't a Marine. I was in the 82nd for a number of years.
Most of the lies I was referring to was on Chris Kyle's side. They did alot of stupid shit that ended up getting guys shot that came in after they rolled out of multiple areas.
I have a childhood friend who was in a unit that worked alongside TUB.
I have heard it from more guys than just him also. I think part of the issue they have is he roams around now doing talking tours about leadership and making loads of money doing it. While his past leadership roles were shit shows at best.
The more I hear this story the more I realize Marcus hid while the rest of his team fought to the death.
He ran away and hid. My question is how can you leave your brother's behind while they are engaging?
Why is he heard calling for Murphy to come back when he went out on the boulder to make the call?
This mission should’ve never happened the way that it did but hopefully the full 100% truth will actually come out one day
SEALS shouldn't even have been ones chosen for this op -
@@enriquearvayo5441 RRC would have been my top pick for that mission.
There is no way to know, so we stick with Marcus' version, or at least interview some of the Tali who were on that mountain that day.
@@enriquearvayo5441 It was supposed to be a Marine unit. They were already operating in the area before and were familiar with the terrain.
When is the seal community going to own up to this being not only a very poorly planned mission but also a massive loss of skilled lives that didn’t need to die the ways they did. Who signed off on this mission?
M. Cole’s “Code Over Country” details some of the lapses in mission planning
Read code over country . Seals are the sources, good ones , trying to save the soul of the brand. John champmens cover up and denial for his M.O.S. started a cancer of cover ups and lies started on ROBERTS RIDGE
With what is coming out, along with what will come out with operators from all branches start retiring. There is a common theme and that is toxic leadership. You never heard of SEALs from the 60's, 70's and the 80's writing books. Getting movie deals basically acting like a bunch of peacocks saying "look at me, I'm so great". No, they were still quiet and professional. If you ran into one in a store or a bar. You would not know they were ever a SEAL. It seems everything changed around 1990. You have to start at the top leadership, and work your way down. They are the one's who have to set the example. If the leadership is toxic. That example works it's way down the ranks. It's time they go back to being quiet professionals.
@wimwak it all started at roberts Ridge operationally
It will never happen.
The navy’s numbers SKYROCKETED after these seal documentaries and movies all came out.
They lure dumb people who want to be “hero’s” into jointing the navy thinking they have what it takes to be seals 99% of them fail miserably and end up chipping paint or scrubbing toilets on a ship in the middle of the ocean for 4 years instead.
They knew they could turn a huge failure into a giant publicity stunt by having that “one survivor” who is a coward by the way.
The funniest part is the Navy Seals aren’t even tier 1 operators sure Seal Team 6 is whoever the rest of the teams are tier 2.
However because of all these movies and documentaries and books everyone thinks that they are the top of the line when it comes to our military when they are not.
I was in a PTSD recovery clinic with a great CID officer, who had to search through all the bodies from the helicopter that was shot down, to look for a piece of paper that might have had Marcus location.. heard the story in group therapy before any books or movies were written
Finally, we get to hear from the brain behind the operation. No jack or dave to pull his strings either.
The brain that got them killed, dont seem like much of a brain to me!!
The rope started at 60ft then was 90ft by the time the guy who wrote book was interviewed it was a 110 foot rope lol Legends
Should have called the movie "The Running Man". Hilarious how the US government acts like Vought International and goes "let's make a Hollywood version where he doesn't run off and leave his buddies to die. We can spin it against the 'liberal' media and turn this into a recruitment opportunity".
If you think US military brass is right-wing, you need your head checked.
FINALLY SOMEONE FUQQING SAYS IT
@@Doggo-frenctonI don’t think he was being political at all but if he was then that’s the only wrong thing he said but everything else is facts Marcus ran and hid while hearing his friends cry out for his help since he was the medic of the unit he’s not the hero they made it out like
There was never “50-100” taliban fighters it was only 8-14 and it was the cattle herders that gave them up , the fast rope was dropped and they heard the bird in the area that night and they found the fast rope and tracked them
There was never “50-100” taliban fighters it was only 8-14 and it was the cattle herders that gave them up , the fast rope was dropped and they heard the bird in the area that night and they found the fast rope and tracked them
I imagine he ran like Forrest Gump during that ambush
Nice Profile pic
@@Abn-ru6gr Forrest Gump was an excellent soldier. Please Don’t disrespect Mr. Gump like that again lol
bro thats funny but gumps character was a hero tho lmao he ran BACK to save guys not away like the cowardice Marcus displayed
Here you are having accomplished nothing in life Monday morning qbing. You are a waste of life 😂
@@THIS---GUYDid you do anything during OEF? If not then shut the F up
”I imagine he ran like forrest gump”, ”the truth is coming out”, ”marcus dropped his weapon”…..Shah really succeded his mission.
@@samuelgustavsson1483 Taboo subject. You were not there …
@@paullevins5448 With that statement, you revealed some important things about yourself. The most vital one of them is that you are a liar.
@@paullevins5448you dudes that want Marcus to be this Rambo style hero.
He lied, the mission was a complete failure they got ambushed by no more than 12 dudes and that’s me giving them the high end.
They all died fighting except for the only guy who survived.
IT WAS not only a huge mistake by the navy to do this mission but they also failed miserably and lost half of a damn team to this one mission.
It sucks it’s horrible but it also is what it is…
Stop sticking up for a liar and a betrayer to this country and his fucking friends who he swore to protect at any cost.
He’s a coward and a fraud
@@paullevins5448 no but the drone was...
@@samuelgustavsson1483 You imagine that ? With the terrain as steep as it is in that area. You think that someone could sprint in that area. He dropped his weapon ? You saw him drop his weapon ? I guess you imagined all of that. You know if you were not there and making assumptions . You ought to keep that opinion to yourself. You were not there. Who did you serve with, what branch and organization? You were not there! Don’t tarnish what this man survived!…
It’s sad the REAL story of “LoNE sUrViVor” rarely gets told and called out all of the rescue team knows what Marcus told them initially didn’t add up with the evidence at hand smh left with 11 mags and came back with all 11 he ran and hid abandoning his brothers at arms the 3 seals are the real hero’s
He said he grabbed mags off his guys (because they didn't need it anymore).
@@610610billy610610 he was only next to one of the guys who got killed , axel survived and didn’t die until 8 days later they found him dead on the 10th day sitting by a tree next to the rally point also if he did take mags from a guy it’s just coincidentally that he still had the same exact amount he left with ? Not off one or two either extra or less? Stop the cap and look into it more
Marcus himself called himself a coward so idk what else to say to that.
If not mistaken, I'm only a few min into video. But the 1st Ranger was on both the Redwings and Extortion 17 recovery missions. He's seen some shit. True Patriot.🇺🇲💪🇺🇲💪
Truth coming about trackstar and jacko ect keep it up.
My man definitely put that hat brim in a glass of water until the water evaporated and maybe left it for a month. Let’s go.
I watch every red wings pod I can,I'll take bites,of different soldiers, at the event telling the story,then switch to different soldier,to hear what he was dealing with at the same time,but up on the hill ,then hear from a pilot that was circles up high,etc,it would be a great idea,so if yall do it first,your welcome
Loved this show! Well done, Team!
Sadly how the movie is just bullshit. Marcus admitted he freaked out and left his guys on his first interview
Yeah, it's sad for everyone.
Which interview?
As usual, RANGERS LEAD THE WAY!!!!! 👍👍❤️🇺🇸
I love the humility of this young Ranger. No false bravado or exaggeration, just pure professionalism.
awesome job and i can tell ya when he said it was a lot of fighting over who had command.. I personally never knew the rrc/rrd was out there . I do hate the 82nd secured the site helped with recovery never get a mention hell then got left out there
Marcus said they fought against hundreds of Taliban. How come the QRF didn't see any dead Taliban or have any contact with Taliban fighters?
@@seanbw75 He lied.
There is a video on youtube showing maybe 8 guys attacking the team.
@@nedflanders5649yep I watched it wish I wouldnt have
I was reported only 8 talis guy an kid shot the rescue heli down
They even send kids to pick up the cases after firefights, to reuse them. The only thing they leave behind is ied:s.
But you really think they leave their dead and you really think they would stay there when they knew a bunch of american soldiers, with all kinds of backup would come there? 🙄 They knew hitting that heli would make a whole lot of american soldiers really pissed.
I feeel bad for that pilot. He read a book that wasn’t written by Marcus. In fact,it was a budget version of Tom Clancy that wrote that book because they didn’t even spell the name of the operation correctly on the front. Its operation red wings while the book says operation redwing which is a whole different operation.
Because Marcus dropped his weapon and left his team to die. That’s why he answered the questions that way that the rangers were asking.
According to many the Navy gave him two choices. Face a court martial, or go with the story the navy came up with and live the rest of his life as a millionaire. After recent revelations I lost respect in the Navy Spec Ops community and leadership.
Yup I heard the same thing…he panicked and book’d it…
@@AirborneAntHell, Luttrell said he broke and curled up into a ball on gd “Larry King Live” during his first interview. NSW didn’t like that *at all*, so the story changed. But he admitted to it…we all just somehow forgot 😵💫.
@wimwak really then why was Luttrell aloud to redeploy to Iraq AFTER Redwings if he ran away and this is supposed common knowledge Eric Denning started all this bs cause wanted the lime light
@@BigStrick02Anderson Cooper
Great start to my weekend. New TH episode, Thanks for this guys!
James E. Suh and his fellow SEALs were killed along with several Night Stalkers trying to rescue Luttrell
Actually they were sent in as a QRF for all four seals and they were shot down
@@billsherman8755 I know that. Murph, Axe, and Danny
The Rangers were also the first guys to reach Extortion 17 when it happened too.They supposedly got there within 41 seconds after the crash.They done the body recovery on it too,just like on Redwings.
Lol bs
60ft rope, 90ft rope,110ft rope. It keeps getting bigger lol
I really don't think anyone should put Marcus down. Most people wouldn't have even been there in the first place. Let alone with only 4 people. This, in my opinion, is all the higher-ups fault. This route of mission made no sense. And considering it was all for a "lower tiered" terrorist.
They’re dead!
Where ?
On the mountain!!
Really!!???? Great details to find your guys.
Imagine bei g the guy fast roping 80ft with a dog strapped to you
I saw Red Wings and had to check it out.
We need chapter markers for your videos like Combat Stories
Marcus is a piece of work. Wow..
Wow!!! Indeed he is😮😅😅
"Our estimation is about 12 guys."
Jesus Christ. That is a huge argument of, no matter your training, positioning is key.
90 foot ropes Jesus Pete thats alot of Rope
Hot hands for sure lol
@@Scott_BuchananI wonder where they hid that long ass heavy rope maybe they made a tree swing for the Taliban with it 😂😂😂😂
That intro was wild for a new viewer.
Nice compilation. 💪🏼🇺🇸
Rrc also was on mj hegars pave hawk recovery, I gave them a ride and some tools 🇺🇸😘 “shoot like a girl” similar to lone survivor! I was there 😎, still have her patch from the helicopter
This should be interesting…
YES HIS DAD IS AMAZING!!!
I love all the weekend operators in the comments that have never saw combat clowning Luttrell, he said he dropped his rifle he said he was a coward what else do you want
I want his Navy Cross taken away and his money gone under fraud. I want Lettrell to tell the truth about the entire firefight.
@@nedflanders5649 are you military? Serious question and if you did a ounce of research youd find the real story brother
@@K.Miller5150 Serious response. I was with 3/3 and we left that AO a month before everything went down. I did my research and everything comes back to Lettrell lying. First they got ambused by 100 fighters in Luttrells book, then 50 in Lt Murpheys MOH reading. I will post a link to the video of the 8 fighters that took out Lettrells team.
@@K.Miller5150 th-cam.com/video/gYN2E8OME7s/w-d-xo.htmlsi=AbrZ6u7JPxzZ2-pd
@@K.Miller5150 th-cam.com/video/qTA60-vd62I/w-d-xo.htmlsi=fz0Xi9rxLKB6wWqM
People trash Latrell, but just listen to how many people got hurt or had to be trucked out just looking for him. Nobody says he didnt have any bullet wounds or injuries. So just the fact that he stayed alive is impressive in my book. Take all the lone survivor stuff out of it.
The difference between luttrell and those rangers that got injured/exhausted in that incident, is that the rangers are honest. If you asked any of those rangers referenced they wouldn't lie about about happened while they were looking for luttrell. Luttrell is lying about what happened that time. Im not saying luttrells not tough, im saying he's a liar and is shitting on his teammates memories by not telling the truth.
@@Getvagazzledwell said man ..sad that he profits from his lies
How many full magazines did he have on him when he was found?
Is there a master list of which episodes this compilation is made from so I can go back and listen to the original full episodes?
Wow,this is the first time I am hearing about an A10 shooting white phosphorus at the crash site… could that have destroyed the bird? Seems pretty risky to shoot around the bird after a crash with jet fuel!!!
Hey Jack and Dave, great episode. I'm catching up on your posts and saw one a while ago asking for suggestions for future guests. I don't know if you guys are still looking but if you are I'd like to suggest someone from Cobra Commandos from CRPF India, a few of their officers have come online to talk about their experiences. It is part of the Central Armed Police Forces (paramilitary) specialising in Jungle warfare mostly against communist insurgents. Some of them also went on to join NSG, the counter-terror unit. I think you guys will ask the pertinent questions. There are other interesting units as well. But these guys are pretty cool.
The guys on the border are ruthless
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This sounds a lot like the cluster fuck that things always become when shit goes south. It’s always a bonus when it goes smooth and nobody gets hurt/killed, usually doesn’t happen though.
This is a cool way to do this story!
As a soldier myself the entire lone survivor story has me very conflicted. On one hand I understand that we’re human beings, i don’t care who you are when shit genuinely hits the fan you don’t know how you’ll do or what your mind will force you to do. On the other hand i absolutely can’t picture any scenario where I hear my guys screaming my name for help and I hear it just to run……..why even sign up and put on the damn uniform……..
We all know it wasnt an rpg…. We also know why Latrell wasnt forthcoming on the location of his team….
What shot it down if it wasn't an RPG?
@@BoxheadHakx It was a man portable SAM.
@@BoxheadHakx most likely a shoulder launched SAM - search up and listen to some of the accounts and analysis of this “Lone Survivor” mission and ORR that arent being told from the SEAL branded narrative side - analysis from people who know stuff about stuff - for example why would the A10 launch flares and 2 other helos burst out so fast they almost collide with the gunships? This guy is a pilot yes and he was there - that being said his recount of that part of the story doesnt match what would happen if it had been an RPG - A10s and blackhawks with apache escorts arent afraid of RPGs - they just frag the area - the downed Chinook wasnt an issue for friendly fire bc it had already rolled down the mountain - dont take my word for it though - search out the other accounts and stories yourself and you will find that these narratives dont hold water - you could start with the AntiHero podcast - they have a great episode there that will start you down the path of truth when it comes to this narrative and what really happened
@@mikesmith7497 correct - this the A10s flares and the blackhawks gtfo the way they did - and rpg would not have caused that reaction
@xu6dt
Gee I wonder how in the world Stingers ended up way over in Afghanistan.😢
If Army or USMC were in charge of SEALs, everyone would be much better served- because NAVY leadership is pitiful.
Why?
@@mikesmith7497NSW has a leadership problem
I hope this is sarcasm
@@austinbilbro770imagine doing advanced infantry stuff when all you know is the water for hundreds of years?
@gordo3697 I don't see your point . Seal team six is a tier one right next to delta who are the best of the best. So you're comment has not substance to it
Lutrell got his twin brother Morgan to stand in for a few days of buds because he couldn't handle it
He had a broken pelvis in buds, and cracked femur. And it was 1 day of buds.
Try again
Marcus said he got knocked out about 5 times during the ordeal.. then how does he remember shit so clearly. I was knocked out in a boxing match and till this day I can’t remember after except for the fighter introductions.
If you were a liar, youd know. Unfortunately, you are too truthful
These stories corroborate a lot of Eric Demings little details he talked about.
On the video cam it cuts off at 11:00 most likely that was them coming by. And if they stayed a little longer maybe axe couldve been saved. At 10:30 axe was fighting alone cause there wasnt alot of gun fire and before that you could hear the rpg fired at them.
Here’s my take. Luttrell seems quite a tortured man. IF he did fabricate elements of the story - I believe he was told to do it by higher ups, to damage control to protect the Seal branding. I think they persuaded him of the importance of retaining peoples positive view of the Seals, retaining the respect.
I do not believe that he fabricated parts of the story for any other reason. Certainly not for money. I think if you listen to the guy interviews, is this man someone who gives a shit about money? I don’t believe that.
I suspect that he’s eventually going to commit suicide. That’s my sense of the guy.
So I don’t think he’s interested in the money at all. I think he bought into trying to protect the memory of his dead teammates, and protecting the image that the seals have. As a say, I think they prepped him, to believe what he was doing , ultimately would be the best thing for everyone involved….
IF he did fabricate elements of the story
Completely agree. It’s well documented he was very traumatized from it all. Makes sense
I agree.. A lot of the interviews I’ve seen him in he looks high as a kite, and if asked a direct question he dances around answering it. He gets jittery and stumbles over his words.
He certainly fabricated the story. As team members, the brotherhood, how could you throw Danny under the bus when he was THE only one with experience in that region. I read the book, watch the movie and after ready the AAR, none of it made sense. 200 combatants with around 38 killed, Marines said there wasn’t that many taliban even in the region. Returning with all his mags is a complete tell. I’m embarrassed I fell for it. But it was well choreographed. He chose to lie about what happened. And to protect the SEALS brand? So they can continue to fck up missions?
God, I was so naive.
We were all misled, brother.
Marcus is a bitch to flee under fire, leaving his friends for dead, then makes millions of off being a fake hero. That is stolen valor in my opinion. But, I am not in the military so I might not have all the information. Any veterans care to chime in? Much appreciated….cheers mates!
There was an interview video released by the group of militants that were involved in Red Wings. The interview was recorded on 28th June if I recall correctly, according to the timestamp on the video. I saw it on LiveLeak years ago. Anyways, it was recorded shortly after the whole thing. In the interview the militant was speaking a dialect of Pashto. I am a Pashto speaker too and even though the dialect was different to ours, I understood most of it. It was a quite detailed recall of the engagement but the main points were these. He said they were alerted at night to helicopter engine sounds. There were a dozen of them in the small village. He said they left before the sun came out for the hills and one of their guys found the fastrope the SEALs had left behind on insertion, that information was relayed to the rest of the group through radio. As Luttrell wrote in his book, when they set up the observation post, he found the small village vacant (unlike how the movie showed it). Anyways he further said that we spotted the SEALs when they were holding the group of goat herders. When the SEALs let go of the herders, they were followed up the mountain. The militants then split up and set up a 3 way ambush, they opened up on the SEALs with PKMs, AKs and RPGs. The only way left for the SEALs was to go down. SEAL or no SEAL, the kind of ambush they were in was very dangerous, and they were constantly being pinned down by belt fed PKMs. Outgunned, outmanevoured, and outnumbered, the SEALs were in big trouble. The whole thing lasted 20-25 minutes. One more thing I would like to add is that, in the combat video made by the militants, at one point you can hear one of them shout in Pashto "That one is running away, after him, don't let him get away". This was said while you could clearly hear 5.56 suppressed shots being fired by the SEALs. This leads me to believe that out of the 4 SEALs that fought that day, Luttrell was the only one who had a mental breakdown after the sudden ambush and just quit and made a run for it.
@@faqirmohammadabdullah2906it’s be interesting if those guys got interviewed again if there still alive, must be some taliban guys with some crazy stories from the war
Right on, brother!
@@faqirmohammadabdullah2906 hey buddy, thanks for that information. We don’t get info like this everyday. Damn, this is much appreciated, my brother!
@PA1NK1LLER you're welcome bro!
Travis Osborn who was the medic who treated Marcus in the village and rescued him he corroborates Marcus story
He probably has to, I would imagine there's some perks to being in Marcus' circle now that he's had a movie made about him.
i don’t believe there is a lot of discrepancy after he was located… there is NO WAY ANYONE can coverage what happened prior.
When are we gonna get the "Dee on the Streets" episode?
I just saw the movie. I was angry of Murphy and Marcus, because they did not take enough responsible to their teammates making a deadly decision , as in the war you should never have mercy for the enemy.
They was already tracked from the helicopter landing them also they goat guys was apart of the rag heads.
It never really hit me til I started watching these podcasts, why didn’t Marcus end up on that mountain with his teammates? How possibly do you make it out alive and your integrity be in tact. You should’ve been there for your brothers and let them die
RPG huh. That’s not what another people said
Anderson Cooper : So Marcus can you tell us and the American people what happened and what did you do.
Marcus Luttrel : well I just started running (Forrest gump voice)
I dont belive it happened at all like marcus says book worse , the movie complete fiction .
The seal brand was the only thing that mattered .
I think roberts ridge was still effecting them circling the wagons .
Seals are the largest draw for navy enlistment .
Thank you General Armchair 🫡
@@WCC-ps8jt I prefer couch L.T. something original
@@WCC-ps8jtlol it’s well known and basically irrefutable at this point that Luttrell’s account of what happened during ORW is mostly nonsense.
But if you really believe the DOD would send 4 Navy SEALs to take on 200 Taliban, 100 Taliban, or even 50 Taliban armed with RPGs, PKM machine guns, AKs. As if the Taliban in pajamas and sandals could move 50 dead bodies off that steep mountain top in sweltering heat, without special equipment and without being spotted by the other Chinook flying overhead.
The firefight was so easy for the 7 to 8 enemy fighters that they took time record two videos of the ambush.
So you really believe Luttrell fell 90 feet on top of another mountain without even breaking any bones and his rifle still being intact and in his possession??? Right sure.
If you believe Luttrell’s account in the book you might as well believe SEALs can walk on the moon with no spacesuit.
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Wasnt 2/3 suppose to conduct this mission? They knew the risks, the area, the issue with comms and they were going to hump in from a much longer distance than the LZ.
Took 10 days for marcus to say anything on his teams whereabouts and probably cost Axelson his life.
Marcus Latrrel "the lone runner"?
I spent 10 years with the Rangers and had some good and challenging times but loved every moment of it. I wouldn't want to be with any other group of men. On this mission, the seals dropped the ball. Poor planning and Marcus left his brothers. Should be tried and convicted. Never leave a man behind. Rangers Lead The Way
Most are saying a missile hit the Chinook, not an RPG.
Nah. It was a pigeon
What are you suggesting by “a missile”?
He was on Warfighters.
Marcus lied. Axelson died.
My favorite part about the lone survivor book is when marcus luttrell blames the liberal media for the whole thing lol
As soon as comms were lost the mission should have been aborted. Great Story, brave men all of them. God Bless Them All.
You can’t just ‘poof’ and disappear off of a mountain.. it’s a bit of a logistical nightmare. And they had already aborted the mission before comms were lost, they were retreating as they were finding out they didn’t have good comms
You obviously didn't think your comment through did you? So they can just transport off the mountain after they realize comms are bad? Like they don't have people hunting them down. This isn't Star Trek.
Should have just stayed out of the whole thing and let the Marines execute their plan. The SEALs "planning" was so terrible that the mission should have been aborted in the planning room.
6 hours incommunicado, if only they had given the rescue order at the end of Murf's satellite call, everything would have been different now
It wasn't an rpg, we already know that it was an surface to air missile that took down̈ the Chinook full of seals.
Rangers really are the best the US Army has. They are disciplined, extremely well trained, incredibly motivated, lead by exceptional leaders, and only know one thing; how to win in combat. Awesome unit. They remind me of Marines with more money, better training, and higher standards. Rangers Lead The Way!!! Semper Fi!
So special forces and Delta are worse than the rangers?
Semper Fi? Really dude?
Sounds like a night mare. forgive the detail but the fast roping seems to have been an issue ..why nylon ropes ? Thought they were all cotton made, less burn...all of these guys seem very dedicated may they all rest in peace...excellent vid...
RLTW
Ive read the book a few times,and of course watched the movie. Im from a military family, but didnt never join so my knowledge about things aren't very knowledgeable. What was the thing with using the SAT phone,and why is that a no no as portrayed in the movie and book?
I feel people are often too quick to criticize Marcus, bordering on character assassination. Before people hurl insults and truly vile ad hominems, just remind yourself that Marcus lost three friends that day, and nearly lost his life a number of times that day and in the days the followed. And many of the planning and execution decisions were not his to make, so he shouldn't be shouldered with the weight of the tragic results. Did he make any bad calls during the fire fight? Possibly, but i wasnt there getting shot at from above by a numerically superior force, watching all three of my teammates lose their lives, while an entire QRF that was there to save our lives were blown out of the sky. I thought Ed Darack did an excellent job of analyzing the operation and the numerous questionable decisions made by leadership from the very start of planning, all the way to the QRF, and arguably even beyond that into the rescue and recovery efforts. I just think there's just far too much mean-spirited criticism and empty finger-pointing when it comes to people expressing their uninformed opinions on the internet.. but i guess that goes for virtually any polarizing or sensitive subject discussed publicly on the internet.
People looked at the facts of the situation…the interviews given by the people who were involved and Marcus’s own words…that’s where the character assassination came from…it came from AFTER all of that…not BEFORE…
Except the part where he lied about those same three buddies all being dead…and they weren’t.
Well put
@@AirborneAntby people who weren’t there..
@@BigStrick02I’m sure he thought they were.. what would he have to gain by lying about that? He shouldn’t have said it so matter of fact’ly, but I’m sure there was no ill intent.
20:43 so you all didn’t show
Up at the nick of time while the village was fighting the taliban
and now he's a congressmannn
Awesome compilation. Exactly what I wanted. I hope more people can see or listen to this. Eric deming said that because of Marcus the retrieval/rescue of dietz,Murphy and axelson was delayed. He said based on the shitty info Marcus gave them they delayed it by many many days and were only found on the 10th day after operation red wings. I called bullshit on that right away because I I knew Marcus wasn’t found till much much later… 7 days according to these guys and the info he gave them may have been shitty but like the last guy said,who would listen to Marcus? He just went through some shit, he’s wounded he’s in shock so yeah they are going to listen to him and delay. Looks like they didn’t delay nor listen to Marcus and found their guys. Axelson might of been alive but it has nothing to do with Marcus delaying his rescue
Lone survivor movie kinda sucked any an Marcus lied about almost everything
If Marcus dropped his weapon and ran..... How would he be able to redeploy to iraq??? It would not happen!!
@@lewismorgan839 He’s part of the cover up of what a disaster the mission was from the get go. Go listen to Deming on The Antihero Podcast EP 66 Marcus Luttrell the Truth. The cover of Chapman’s death, Tillman cover up, reasons for invading Iraq, Bush sheltering the Saudi’s, your government military industrial complex is a corrupt lying machine and will use any means to advance their agenda.
Also, let’s all stop worship people in the military like they’re infallible gods. As a veteran I can assure you that we’re just normal flawed people and there are just as many 💩bags in the military as there are outside of it.
The military deploys people all the time who should not be there. It's nothing out of the ordinary.
In the combat footage you can hear Marcus Luttrell yelling to Michael, as he was making the sat phone call. "Michael, come back, Michael." "Michael, come back." And nearing the end of the footage, you can hear Axelson talking back to Luttrell, after an initial RPG blast. "What happened?" "Michael?" "Where at?" "We gotta get back" "where's michael?" In numerous interviews given, Marcus stated how he was standing up waiving his hands. How all he wanted was for Michael to come back down to him. Marcus also said Axe was still talking to him, before being separated by yet another RPG. Also, Marcus accurately described the wounds on his teammates. He said Dietz got shot through the head, as he was carrying him. In the combat footage, you can see the exit wound on Dietz's left cheek. He also said Murphy suffered a wound to the stomach, a busted face, and was coated in dust. All accurately described by Marcus. Also, Axelson was found by the locals and was buried. The GBs had to bribe them by building generators, paving roads, and bringing livestock so they would reveal the position of Axe. One of the GBs, Travis Osborn said on the team never quit podcast "he had 1 mag in his kit, and 11 rounds in the mag in his gun." There's also a portion in the combat footage where you can hear a deep Texan tone yell "I'm hit" before a suppressed gunshot.
Holy shit the amount of cope in your comment, deep Texas tone 😂.
That's clearly Murphy yelling at Marcus, I made a similar comment on the original video sounds like you took my comment and added copium to it.
@@JackDiamond21 I already argued multiple times with you on separate different accounts. It's truly impossible to argue against an idiot
@@OperationRedWingsarchive yea I know it's truly impossible to talk to you, cause it's Murphy calling Marcus the full vid is on Reddit.
At some point one of the Taliban says "look at the one running" then you hear Murphy yell "Marcus comeback"
@@JackDiamond21 I believe you need to get your ears checked. Murphy is from NY so his tone would be theoretically higher than a country man like Marcus. You can decipher who is who. Marcus said in his 60 minutes interview how all he wanted was for Murphy to make his way back down to him. How he was raising his hands, yelling for him to come back down. Murphy ignored him and continued fighting, after making his sat phone call. He was presumably shot incapacitated and yelled for Marcus. However, he couldn't reach Murphy due to the terrain and incoming fire. And no Muja said that now you're just lying bro.
@@JackDiamond21 and on top of that you can literally hear Axe talking to Marcus, before an RPG separates them. Which is also backed up by Marcus
Why is a patrol being lead by a SEAL officer ? Name any Western LRRP or Special Operations force that would have a Officer with Zero experience lead a patrol behind enemy lines?
hes the team leader and none of em really have much experience but people just cant fathhom the terrain , your not fightin anyone up hill period
@@GATOR_MCLUSKY So no NCO small unit leaders that have enough experiance to make sure they have Commo that works...sorry but no one else has those problems
@LongFatJohnston Thanks. I am former unit alum and have worked all over the GWOT and just can't understand the failed commo plan unless they just went full retard
@LongFatJohnston u dont throw people out of sof in this era they was rectuiting hard as possible. whats the incident repot say on the shooting ?
@@BryanWiedeman what was the issue with commo? i know why they had issues cuz i learned it 2 years prior
Get some.
All i got out of this is our military even with all the money in the world got our ass handed to us by dudes with no training wearing pajamas with AKs. Im definitely judging our military.
I wasn’t there and neither were any of you, what we know is that the story we got in the book and the movie are totally bogus. Maybe one day Marcus will have a change of conscience and tell the truth. But because I’ve heard 10 different people tell 10 different stories, I can’t trust anything.
This guy is one of the twins
The seals I know are all bad ass people, yes every unit has bad eggs clearly but the people in the spotlight make up like 1% of actual seals, most of them legit won’t ever bring up they were seals or what they did especially during the GWOT
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Most seals actually aren’t that great. There’s more and more coming out about the community as a whole and go figure it’s a combination of bad leadership and training, arrogance, and immaturity
Whoever wrote the book was very liberal with the facts, and the movie was worse ? That whole mission was fubur start to finish
Extortion bird going down and the Chinook from redwing are 2 diff incidents....
@@drholiday7139 ya I mixes it up with the qrf they lost at redwings