A first class demonstration of steel conduit installation at its very best... ( been a long time since I did some).... maybe 25 years. That young man must do that day in,..day out to be that perfect,... My hat is off... Great work. .. Ultimately skillfull.
Gary, a bit of history. I was an adult trainee at Tresham College in Wellingborough when you were just starting out in education as storeman in the practical section. I was 30 ish at the time, changing career in the right way and now 57 and still remember you as a great and helpful guy. Fantastic videos you do mate 😁
Hi Neil, sadly I need to correct you as I was only ever employed by Tresham as a member of the teaching staff 👍🏻. Great memories from along time ago the building has now been pulled down (sad moment). Thanks for the support Gaz 🦾
Back in the day I added an inch and 3/4 to the back of the bend mark and put that on the back of the former .bend it ,job done .Also you can add two and a 1/4 for bending 25mm conduit .works every time
I like how he keeps looking at the camera everytime he says something to the other guy somehow reminds me of those cheesy shows from the 90s love it, adds a lot of unique character nowadays
Great process and work. I'd always use a pencil so marks can be wiped off after bends are done. Having worked I north America for 6 years I did miss the proper benders we used in the UK. Took a while to get used to their hand/foot benders. I did like their fast fittings and thinner gauge steel conduit though. The likes of this conduit run could be done I under 30 minutes with the north American style of conduit and fittings.
Good job there Gary, got to keep the young lad on his toes. The food doesn't eat it's self someone has to make sure it doesn't spoil and what was that bristley thing you had at the end ? I have seen someone with one before, they said it was for cleaning !
Super video thanks. Really enjoyed it. Not sure proper electricians ware gloves though.. Trouble is these days I fined most metal conduit is crap especially the spacer bar saddle clips and brass bushes .
What you were calling a "pop rivet" wasn't! It was a Nutsert or blind threaded insert. Similar but not identical device and process. Could have used a long reach pop rivet through the saddle though. 🤔😁
Good Video… Love Gaz’s Banter 🤣 👍🏽 …. Great teacher 😉 But did anyone notice that the Unistrut at the back of the board was the wrong way round ? 🤣 The give away was the Zebedee springs were hanging out 👍🏽 Might be a reason for the strut to be reversed … But thats not how you mount a Zebedee 😉 I don’t miss threading 25 mil conduit 🤣👍🏽
You should have tried 2 inch conduit in the 60’s and with hand dies not ratchet,I was once made to thread a full length and cut it up into nipples for giving lip
@@anthonyschofield7807 Absolutely been there done that haha 🤣👍🏽 I did my apprenticeship in the early 80’s … Working with a contractor at well known car factory’s doing all the indoor and outdoor lighting ….. Miles and miles of 25mm galv conduit …. i was a bit lippy too and found myself threading full lengths of nipples 🤣👍🏽…. The bad old good days 👍🏽 …. Still got my pipe vice and bender and stocks and dies 👍🏽…. They should use them to punish young offenders haha 🤣
A good video but I have always been brought up where conduit boxes are not drilled / fixed back they are supported by saddles this then helps prevent water ingress
Brilliant video Gaz! I'm mostly into domestic work but would love to break into commercial and industrial installs. Can you show some vids on swa terminations?
Try using a bending block like we did in the 60’s ,you could bend tighter angles easily,every one kept their own block jealousy guarded because once it was worn in it was perfect
How do you make? Or where do you buy a bending block? The amount of times I have had to buy elbows or sweeping bends because I couldn't get a tight enough bend.....
@@andyglass3882 we had to make our own blocks,usually out of a 3 foot piece of 3x3 hardwood with a 3/4 hole at one end and an inch hole at the other.The holes were carefully drilled from both sides and angled to aid the bending but they took a bit of working in until a smooth bend could be made.Some guys used to burn the hole through to harden the wood around the hole to make it last longer.There are or used to be tighter formers for bending machines that made really tight right angles.Bending blocks took a lot of practice but could achieve really impressive sets and bends
Hi when you threaded the conduit to make a extra long nipple to go through the wall surely a coupling could have been cut cut down to cover the extra thread therefore giving a more solid Finnish. The long nipple yes was sprayed with a protective coating but I feel a coupling would be of an extra advantage D Warner
What's the socket attachment you use at the end to tighten that bush? (None of the cheap-jack brass bushes I get from wholesalers have a nice metric A/F dimension that a standard spanner fits!)
Nice work Jake, although id have whipped that biscuit out of Gaz's hands when he waved it in your face :) Like the use of rivnuts , watch all the youtube sparks adopt it like they did ferrules and fitting them on solid conductors hahahaha .. no bundy jokes... poor old Nick gets a hammering
Not entirely sure when the nomenclature changed, but you hear live, line, and phase (less commonly) thrown around by various people when referring to a line conductor. the thinking behind it is, as the neutral generally carries current in normal circuit operation, it is a "Live" conductor, that also carries shock potential in certain circumstances.
@@efixx Yeah I can imagine. I suggested using pop rivets for joining trunking the other day. I mean pop rivets not riv nuts and that kind of opened a can of worms. Actually push in conduit might well be more water proof aswell if that was a part of the objective of the designer. What about using a countersink in a drill to deburr the inside edges of the conduit?
A few people have commented on here about the fact that you called rivnuts or nutserts, pop rivets. However, you must have known that there is a major difference between them and pop rivets yet you gave no explanation as to the difference and the fact that the tool is different from a pop rivet tool. Your videos are usually very informative but this must have left a lot of people who are familiar with pop rivets confused as to how you would use a screw with them.
Good install bit didn't see a weatherproof seal at the wall or the back of the external box. In a heavy rain water could get in. Obviously I have presupposed the box is on the outside of the building.
I once saw an electrician having to use a 4 way box,he knew he would need three runners so he thought he would do those first and ended up having to do a fourth at the end,you could undo all four and take the box out 😁
Never seen the lead washer on the inside under male bush before only ever seen or put on face of the flange coupler if it needed a washer inside ide put a normal metal one
Gary, stop being just a flapjack to the staff! I'd rate that work an easy 9/10 jelly babies..... no, sorry let me "generic correction fluid" that out and upgrade it to a 10/10. Sterling work there Jake!
All that messing with levels and squares to get your bend position?why not use the ole add/subtract 50mm (best to double check your former) from the measurement to get were the pipe sits at the start of the former.Also get yerself some footprints,not only the best grips for conduit,but the handle doubles up as a reamer for cleaning up the burrs
A few more instructional video's Jake and Gary will be good enough for you to let him have a go - keep an eye on him mind, or he'll be skiving off for a doughnut.
UK conduit, you should see how they do conduit in USA, it’s faster with pre connectors. I don’t understand why you guys use threaded conduit ends and boxes, it seems so hard to work with.
at first: thx for all the effort u put in this clip, but i doubt this way of an electrical installation is allowed anymore (at least in germany )- single wires in steelpipes?! wtf? this was meant to do 50 years ago. this is way too time consuming and too expensive compared to an installation with ether flexible plastic pipes or just NYM-J in those drywalls, eventhough h05-vk or h07-vk is more expensive than NYM-j etc. otherwise, they just do things different in the kingdom, they just dont give a f!?k about norms- not the first time for me to see an electrical installation, out of the kingdom, which i wish i would've never seen. i mean all of the existing wires u see, already installed, where just nailed to the wall. so whats the reason u choose to install single h05-vk/h07-vk wires inside steel pipes randomly instead of use a proper insulated cable nailing to the walls without steelpipes? i dont get it🤷♀ if i would do that i would loose my job immediately
This is absolute nonsense for regular households :D This "protection level" might be required inside a CNC machine or sandblaster. Not in my basement. And definitely not for anything below 63A in any building. I would fight with my dear life to not let these kind of regulations apply here. Wasting money on sham-safety. Aka "I buy Volvo because it is safe for my kids".
This was painful to watch, come to the us and learn how to properly bend rigid conduit. Running threads are a code violation over here as well. The contraption you use to bend pipe is so much overkill, just use a hand bender and the proper take up. Any IBEW JW would be fired if he took that long to bend an offset and a 90 😂😂😂😂
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A first class demonstration of steel conduit installation at its very best... ( been a long time since I did some).... maybe 25 years.
That young man must do that day in,..day out to be that perfect,...
My hat is off... Great work. .. Ultimately skillfull.
Thanks for the kind words 👍🏻
Gary, a bit of history. I was an adult trainee at Tresham College in Wellingborough when you were just starting out in education as storeman in the practical section.
I was 30 ish at the time, changing career in the right way and now 57 and still remember you as a great and helpful guy.
Fantastic videos you do mate 😁
Hi Neil, sadly I need to correct you as I was only ever employed by Tresham as a member of the teaching staff 👍🏻.
Great memories from along time ago the building has now been pulled down (sad moment). Thanks for the support Gaz 🦾
@@efixxmy apologies very long time ago. I think you had just started.
Always remember you being a cracking lecturer whenever you taught our class 😁
I take my hat off to you mate! I wish I was that good at conduit 👌👏
Back in the day I added an inch and 3/4 to the back of the bend mark and put that on the back of the former .bend it ,job done .Also you can add two and a 1/4 for bending 25mm conduit .works every time
As with many things in life the Supervisor needs to keep well nourished with regular snacks but a real top quality install done really well!
I like how he keeps looking at the camera everytime he says something to the other guy somehow reminds me of those cheesy shows from the 90s love it, adds a lot of unique character nowadays
Would love to see some cable tray bends and offsets on the channel. Tray can be a great install.
Stay tuned 👍
Great process and work. I'd always use a pencil so marks can be wiped off after bends are done. Having worked I north America for 6 years I did miss the proper benders we used in the UK. Took a while to get used to their hand/foot benders. I did like their fast fittings and thinner gauge steel conduit though. The likes of this conduit run could be done I under 30 minutes with the north American style of conduit and fittings.
Outstanding video!
Enjoyed this video 👍
Great video, many thanks.
Good job there Gary, got to keep the young lad on his toes. The food doesn't eat it's self someone has to make sure it doesn't spoil and what was that bristley thing you had at the end ? I have seen someone with one before, they said it was for cleaning !
Excellent demo you make it look so easy
Super video thanks. Really enjoyed it. Not sure proper electricians ware gloves though..
Trouble is these days I fined most metal conduit is crap especially the spacer bar saddle clips and brass bushes .
Never used spacer bar saddles always stand off and bush heads got so small that sometimes they were smaller than the knockout
Never seen that method of measuring an offset. Why not (x2) 120mm for your 30° offset. Love the pop rivot on the conduit support.
Really good vid informative and enjoyable. Thanks
You forgot to get him to make the toast and to point your finger 😆 🤣
Excelente 👍👌 gracias por compartir 😊👌
The way he threw the grips at 4:15 🙉 😆🤣
😂😂😂😂
…oops 🤣 sometimes you don’t have time to put things down 🤣
What you were calling a "pop rivet" wasn't! It was a Nutsert or blind threaded insert. Similar but not identical device and process. Could have used a long reach pop rivet through the saddle though. 🤔😁
If your riv nut goes pop you got problems. Broke the threaded stud on my tool.
Great video! I definitely learnt something. Thanks
excellent guys, thank you
Thanks for commenting and watching
We call them rivnuts rather than pop rivets. Great video as usual thanks chaps.
We call them rivnuts or nutserts in Australia.
that is an excellent video! congratulations!
Thanks
Brilliant video he is sh-t hot at the conduit work 👌very impressive, very well executed.
Brilliant video Gaz as always 👍👍👍👍👍👍❤️❤️❤️⚡️
Great video again lads
Do you have a link or name where you can get them pop rivits from
I’ll dig out the info when I’m back in the unit on Monday - I purchased a kit from RS £££ which included the tool - Cheers Gordon
They are rivet nuts , not pop rivets as said . E bay sell them
Good Video… Love Gaz’s Banter 🤣 👍🏽 …. Great teacher 😉
But did anyone notice that the Unistrut at the back of the board was the wrong way round ? 🤣 The give away was the Zebedee springs were hanging out 👍🏽
Might be a reason for the strut to be reversed … But thats not how you mount a Zebedee 😉
I don’t miss threading 25 mil conduit 🤣👍🏽
You should have tried 2 inch conduit in the 60’s and with hand dies not ratchet,I was once made to thread a full length and cut it up into nipples for giving lip
@@anthonyschofield7807
Absolutely been there done that haha 🤣👍🏽 I did my apprenticeship in the early 80’s … Working with a contractor at well known car factory’s doing all the indoor and outdoor lighting ….. Miles and miles of 25mm galv conduit …. i was a bit lippy too and found myself threading full lengths of nipples 🤣👍🏽…. The bad old good days 👍🏽 …. Still got my pipe vice and bender and stocks and dies 👍🏽…. They should use them to punish young offenders haha 🤣
@@dizshiz happy days when an apprentice knew his place
A good video but I have always been brought up where conduit boxes are not drilled / fixed back they are supported by saddles this then helps prevent water ingress
Brilliant video Gaz!
I'm mostly into domestic work but would love to break into commercial and industrial installs.
Can you show some vids on swa terminations?
What’s the socket being used @ 19:48 ?
very helpful
Very helpful thank you
A nice opportunity there for a video on some trunking work - I'd like to see those incoming tails protected.
"Flexicon the conduit of choice for people who can't bend steel conduit"
What did Bundy do to upset eFIXX 😂😂😂
😂😂😂
Mr Bundy has done loads for me and my family and is a fantastic man 👍🏻. *Gaz
I came to make that exact comment haha
Try using a bending block like we did in the 60’s ,you could bend tighter angles easily,every one kept their own block jealousy guarded because once it was worn in it was perfect
How do you make? Or where do you buy a bending block? The amount of times I have had to buy elbows or sweeping bends because I couldn't get a tight enough bend.....
@@andyglass3882 we had to make our own blocks,usually out of a 3 foot piece of 3x3 hardwood with a 3/4 hole at one end and an inch hole at the other.The holes were carefully drilled from both sides and angled to aid the bending but they took a bit of working in until a smooth bend could be made.Some guys used to burn the hole through to harden the wood around the hole to make it last longer.There are or used to be tighter formers for bending machines that made really tight right angles.Bending blocks took a lot of practice but could achieve really impressive sets and bends
I was going to say exactly the same, bending block was the way, bending machine luxury !
Lol, Gary taking shithousery to a new level in this video 🤣
Hi when you threaded the conduit to make a extra long nipple to go through the wall surely a coupling could have been cut cut down to cover the extra thread therefore giving a more solid Finnish.
The long nipple yes was sprayed with a protective coating but I feel a coupling would be of an extra advantage
D Warner
What's the socket attachment you use at the end to tighten that bush? (None of the cheap-jack brass bushes I get from wholesalers have a nice metric A/F dimension that a standard spanner fits!)
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Nice x
Nice work Jake, although id have whipped that biscuit out of Gaz's hands when he waved it in your face :) Like the use of rivnuts , watch all the youtube sparks adopt it like they did ferrules and fitting them on solid conductors hahahaha .. no bundy jokes... poor old Nick gets a hammering
I love NB *Gaz
Never met the bloke, but has a great channel and a bloody good apprentice
Good job interesting tips
This reminds me of the time a few of us got ahead of the year and the college used us as free labour to get a few odd jobs done 😂😂
👍🏻😂
6:28 isn't that spring nut backwards?
Why no Lock rings or serrated washers? Aren’t all the boxes loose resulting in the earth through the conduit not being good??
How can i thread conduit without getting scratches all over the pipe or crushing the pipe?!
Wow... Amazing video... Where can i find pipe tread tool like that?
Always fun to watch electricians do piping! BTW I paid for my degree in Electrical engineering by plumbing.
Wise move 👍
Lovely and neat ...eFIXX guys.
Is that a rivet gun
Hi Guys, will there be a series on cable tray also please?
Good stuff. However a craftsperson talking in cm and not mm sounds wrong.
I take it you haven't met an old boy, who measures in inch fractions, as of yet then 😬
@@h8ryj Iv never heard my electricians use anything but inches lmaoo
Doesn't really matter if the job gets done, and done well 👌🏻
I wouldn’t let it worry you… Karl knows the score 👍🏼
Tbh comments make me laugh as anything we measure is in mm’s - ex - next spot light is 500mm away
You tested the R1+R2 to the socket, but should you not have also tested that the conduit was properly earthed?
Lovely job guys. QQ: when did the live become known as “LINE” and what’s the thinking behind the change?? 🤔
I don't know the exact date Samuel but I did my apprenticeship in 2010 and it was called the "line" conductor then as well.
Not entirely sure when the nomenclature changed, but you hear live, line, and phase (less commonly) thrown around by various people when referring to a line conductor.
the thinking behind it is, as the neutral generally carries current in normal circuit operation, it is a "Live" conductor, that also carries shock potential in certain circumstances.
Hope that commando socket is on an RCD!
It’s on an RCBO fed from the Schneider board
What about push in fittings for the conduit? Seems that would save alot of time.
A few videos on the conlok system coming soon - watch for the comments for the traditional Uk electricians!
@@efixx Yeah I can imagine. I suggested using pop rivets for joining trunking the other day. I mean pop rivets not riv nuts and that kind of opened a can of worms. Actually push in conduit might well be more water proof aswell if that was a part of the objective of the designer. What about using a countersink in a drill to deburr the inside edges of the conduit?
A few people have commented on here about the fact that you called rivnuts or nutserts, pop rivets. However, you must have known that there is a major difference between them and pop rivets yet you gave no explanation as to the difference and the fact that the tool is different from a pop rivet tool. Your videos are usually very informative but this must have left a lot of people who are familiar with pop rivets confused as to how you would use a screw with them.
Good install bit didn't see a weatherproof seal at the wall or the back of the external box. In a heavy rain water could get in. Obviously I have presupposed the box is on the outside of the building.
We used a flanged coupling with lead washer.
Those blind nuts may also need waterproofing
Can you do a video on running couplers?
Conduit Running Coupler th-cam.com/video/lmYYLUuBBKk/w-d-xo.html
I once saw an electrician having to use a 4 way box,he knew he would need three runners so he thought he would do those first and ended up having to do a fourth at the end,you could undo all four and take the box out 😁
Can they be buried in a wall ?
Good job Jake lad 👍🏻
Like how he's says he'll " tek it on"
Is he a Yorkshire lad?
👍🏻
Cheers karl! Yep Leeds to be exact! 👍🏼
@@ja_adam_ nobody's perfect pal 😂😂
Excellent job Jake, you should get a job as a College Leacher, sorry Lecturer.
Whats with the Batman sock?
That was good thanks for that
Thanks
Never seen the lead washer on the inside under male bush before only ever seen or put on face of the flange coupler if it needed a washer inside ide put a normal metal one
I was always taught lock ring before a box or coupling to tighten against, also deburr before you remove the dia.
I'm guessing your from Scotland. I worked with some lads from there years ago and that is the way they do it. I did mine as the above video.
And a stand of saddle 9 inches from every bend,box or accessory and 4 feet between saddles
All Commercial Electricians sin up to the Secret Pledge that what happens in the bending process stays in the bending process
I thought that the device that you fitted on the wall was either a blind rivet nut or rivnut - not just a pop rivet....
Loved doing this…. Like this comment if you think i should give Gary a challenge next so I can stuff my face while he works away 😆
Great idea 💡- pick a challenge which involves some sort of App - he loves them!
Gary you are lucky that you haven't been given a Glaswegian handshake.lol How can you torture that young man like in all good conscience.
😂😂
Gary, stop being just a flapjack to the staff!
I'd rate that work an easy 9/10 jelly babies..... no, sorry let me "generic correction fluid" that out and upgrade it to a 10/10. Sterling work there Jake!
Any chance of sending some of those inline wago to me please? 😉
They are out in the new year 👍🏻
@@efixx 🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺
Great work. Still should have locked out the breakers or the board
All that messing with levels and squares to get your bend position?why not use the ole add/subtract 50mm (best to double check your former) from the measurement to get were the pipe sits at the start of the former.Also get yerself some footprints,not only the best grips for conduit,but the handle doubles up as a reamer for cleaning up the burrs
Just plug something into the socket and see if it turns on to test it.
You are using rivet nuts not pop rivets
We’ll spotted 👍
A few more instructional video's Jake and Gary will be good enough for you to let him have a go - keep an eye on him mind, or he'll be skiving off for a doughnut.
I hope Nick Bundy is watching lol
Why don’t you buy a Chicago style bender greenlee? It has degrees and multiple shoes to bend up to 1” rigid
Spot the new kid on the bloke... by only looking at the efixx top... hmm ones been washed a fair bit
😂👍🏻
Going to need to replace him Gary, who knows who taught him! Only thing Jake knows is how to eat and avoid hard work! 😂
I think Gary should be reported as a bad boss. 😂😂😂😂
Poor kids parched not even a cup of tea.
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Nice work, although you have ruined the ip rating of the commando, why not feed the bottom, then no chance of water ingress.
Pop rivets look suspiciously like riv nuts 🤔😉
Terminology trips these new starters up all the time.
I do like a nice clean bender! Sorry conduit bender .
🤦🏻♂️😂
Pop rivet ? I know them as 'nutserts'
What an impressive young lad - I would even let him do MY electrical work…………
CUT LONGER bend it then cut the length this. makes it easy
UK conduit, you should see how they do conduit in USA, it’s faster with pre connectors.
I don’t understand why you guys use threaded conduit ends and boxes, it seems so hard to work with.
I thought the apprentice was supposed to supply the sweets and treats????
Basically how it's done in the States, even dometic.
The only good thing about this video was the strap and the rivets, damn residential sparkys
They are riv-nuts not pop rivets
I think this video is worse than a cooking show I am hungry now.
at first: thx for all the effort u put in this clip, but i doubt this way of an electrical installation is allowed anymore (at least in germany )- single wires in steelpipes?! wtf? this was meant to do 50 years ago. this is way too time consuming and too expensive compared to an installation with ether flexible plastic pipes or just NYM-J in those drywalls, eventhough h05-vk or h07-vk is more expensive than NYM-j etc. otherwise, they just do things different in the kingdom, they just dont give a f!?k about norms- not the first time for me to see an electrical installation, out of the kingdom, which i wish i would've never seen. i mean all of the existing wires u see, already installed, where just nailed to the wall. so whats the reason u choose to install single h05-vk/h07-vk wires inside steel pipes randomly instead of use a proper insulated cable nailing to the walls without steelpipes? i dont get it🤷♀ if i would do that i would loose my job immediately
This is absolute nonsense for regular households :D
This "protection level" might be required inside a CNC machine or sandblaster. Not in my basement. And definitely not for anything below 63A in any building. I would fight with my dear life to not let these kind of regulations apply here. Wasting money on sham-safety. Aka "I buy Volvo because it is safe for my kids".
This was painful to watch, come to the us and learn how to properly bend rigid conduit. Running threads are a code violation over here as well. The contraption you use to bend pipe is so much overkill, just use a hand bender and the proper take up. Any IBEW JW would be fired if he took that long to bend an offset and a 90 😂😂😂😂
If you think you can bend British standard conduit with a hand bender we’d love to see the video!