I Played Counter Strike 2 on the PS4. It's as bad as it Sounds.
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I tried some of your suggestions in the comments about kicking the bots and playing online, here's the follow up video with that: th-cam.com/video/rlGrvKxgYtY/w-d-xo.html
Try a ps4 pro with a ssd harddrive
You should oc and up the ram.
I guarantee you could get better performance on CS2 on a cell phone with termux-box/box64
play garry mods
wanna havee a og oculus.
Damn, I wonder how the PC version of CSGO would have worked given CSGO itself was present on the Xbox 360
He could still try, its up for downloads still on steam
@@erixccjc2143 Really? I thought they took it down when CS2 dropped
@@BloopTubeyou have to opt into the legacy version under the Betas tab in the game properties option. The full game of CSGO is there
@@mikevismyelement I imagine you can't play on official servers anymore, right?
@@DanielFerreira-ez8qdyou can't play on official servers, but community servers might still work not sure.
You can fix the console freezes by setting up a swap space. 16gbs for the swap size is best. It basically utilizes your HDD storage as "RAM" when the system RAM reaches 100%.
I used to do this with my potato PC
I installed an SSD and partitioned part of the drive to be used as virtual memory
Now I do the opposite, half of my RAM is dedicated to being a virtual boot drive for nearly instant startups
@@DustinJames-mk1glneed to keep your comment in memory cause got that problem with my computer and had no idea how to fix that
i don't know if swapping would help for gaming.
@@skymanclaw441It wouldn't help with performance, just fix the freezing. Modded Warfare's PS4 Linux video talks about it a bit.
@@ccb_HX Windows does this by default. I think Linux sets a swap partition but you may need to increase the size.
You have to delete the videos folder in the panorama folder for cs2, as its rendering a full 2.5d map in the background aside from what you already play.
I just tried this, and it doesn't really seem to make a meaningful difference on the PS4. Kicking all the bots helped a ton, but the game is still at like 60% speed
you can make game faster with the console comand ( host_timescale 2 )@@BringusStudios
to me on a pc and laptop showed improvements of 20% in fps nd stability.
@@BringusStudiosShould I try this on my jailbroken 9.00 ps4 pro cuz i think it's gonna perform much better than the fat
@@BringusStudios I would also like to point out that running your own server could've possibly taken out a chunk of fps
everything was running on cpu, i think thats why vram and GPU usage wasn't present. this is still a really cool video, thank you for this!
Likely no GPU driver installed so the game doesn't know it exists.
It doesn't really work like that, a graphic task cannot natively work on a cpu, that problem is present on laptops because usually they have both an iGPU and a dedicated one
To be more precise, yes, CPUs can elaborate graphic tasks, but i assure you it's not a 7fps thing, more like 7 minutes per frame
@@v.h.s.italia There is a version of Crisis that runs purely on CPU
This is exactly it, Its all running on CPU, I was trying to find the info on it. But as far as i know homebrew is not yet able to fully acess gpu, So its all software rending. this is why emulation outside of using sonys official emulators don't get any good performence past something like sega and SNES.
@@v.h.s.italiaMesas LLVM OpenGL and Vulkan CPU renderers aren't *that bad* on modernish CPUs, honestly somewhat in line with the performance from the video. I'd know since I've just run into amdgpu not loading properly and any games I tried (Minecraft on OpenGL and a few Proton games thru DXVK on Vulkan) using the LLVM renderer
1:17 "Gotta move the mouse for good luck" this def. unlocked an old memory when I had a slow PC
Man, I remember when the PS4 was coming out and it was so immensely powerful and had perfect graphics. "I know people have said it before, but graphics can't get better than this."
Every time one of Sonys studios releases a AAA game I think that, uncharted 2 on ps3, god of war 2016 on ps4 pro, horizon forbidden west on ps5.
I think we’re at the point where graphics won’t get crazy better. Diminishing returns. Aside from frame rate I don’t think the jump from ps4 pro to ps5 was that big, it’s better but not a ps2 - ps3 jump
Played a lot of modern warfare on PS3 and I thought they should of end it there because the graphics and variety of great games. It’s was perfect just perfect, then got a ps4 and was like yeah but i would agree that the PS2 jump to PS3 was massive difference, I haven’t gotten a ps5 I don’t think I will sadly.
amazing graphics because most games were locked to 30 lmao. ps4 was such a trash gen
@@swilleh_
Bette than te PS3, where 30 was a luxury
It was pretty funny because the PS4 was seriously under powered even compared to budget hardware at the time, everyone was just so used to the Xbox 360 and PS3 graphics
I love the suffering
Three basic CS things:
Don't think you run this in full screen instead of fullscreen windowed... so it will drop frames.
Loading a local game with bots is dropping frames with each bot. Playing online will probably get you 20-30 FPS .
CSGO and (by and large) CS2 is CPU based. So technically more RAM would be better.
Even on pc, console/launch commands like no_joy to improve performance. Killing unnecessary features
Was gonna mention the same thing about the bots, they absolutely TANK performance, super CPU intense for some reason and also the HRTF binural sound option destroys performance on the CPU as well.
@@CheekyChan if only you could disable the 3d audio in cs2, glad they fixed the underwater sounding bs doe
CS2 just runs bad on Linux now in general
@@craftnut still surprised how awful it runs on the deck with trading and then the joy to mouse that stops working.
@@PSP1S0 It's on by default now? Used to be able to disable it in CSGO.
I love all the TF2 sounds they make me really crack up. Especially the Engineer scream when the frame times were at 6 seconds a frame.
This is the gaming on the family PC experience
This was like every kids tablet after 1 week of internet access, slow but it works somehow
accurate
lol
Is that because they install viruses?
Great, trying play a PC game on a device that "not" meant to be for playing a pc games, but yea, gaming is gaming!
We need ps5 ver now
@@DirectLilywe cant yet. The ps5 jailbreaking thing is at a very early stage. But it will probably apear in the next 1 or 2 years
especially when the game is more gpu intensive than it is cpu
@@DirectLily ps4 pro pro*
What
If there's any low-end PC configs for CS2, it'd be cool to see you incorporate those, like we're talking the maps literally look like N64/PS1 texture levels of low.
yeah you can change the textures to be limited to super low resolutions i had that on for a while but it didnt help my frames at all and the skins looked.. stylized
Such a well put together video, I enjoyed it a lot!
Hi! I used to play cs2 on Linux, the audio problem might be because the game uses ALSA or some other lower level system directly by default instead of a higher level system like pipewire or pulseaudio, there is a command line argument to fix this, but I don't remember it right now
And about the game crashing when loading the map, you might need to increase vm.max_map_count, check the proposal Fedora made for the recommended value and how to change it
I fixed the audio crackling issue by changing to 24khz (it was on 21khz first and i had to search the config file and change it)
"used to" makes it sound like it's been years :D
@@utfigyii5987 I haven't played it in quite a while actually, but it kinda does sound like a longer time lol
Native Pipewire should do the trick. But knowing this is PS4 it might just need to be mixed with Pulseaudio
the tf2 sound effects and music you use are so perfectly timed, big fan :)
inb4 someone else says this, but deathmatch with bots uses waaaay more resources than deathmatch with humans.
I was gonna comment that
Yep bots use gpu resources
yea haha
nope. i have a horrible laptop. i can assure you 1000% that bots ran miles and miles better than with real players. like 50 fps with bots and 10-20 fps with real players
So cool that apparently you have gained more than 100k subs in the last 3 months, if the screenshot was correct in the end of the video!
You deserve it, these videos truly are absolute gold, 5/5! :D ❤
Knowing the ways of the almighty Linux, this might be because of gpu drivers being wrong. Also Linux version of CS2 works way worse than Windows one. Well, at least that was the case for me
Are there gpu driver for the ps4?
That's almost entirely nvidia's fault
@@M2rsh "almost"
The gpu in the ps4 is made by amd and sony
windows version too. apparently bots and even bullet impacts are buggy rn. Bots cripple my ryzen 7 5k to 50 fps, no wonder ps4 suffered
@@shadesoftime And that's the reason it doesn't work on PS4 because the drivers are shit just like Nvidias
But the drivers on PS4 are shit because it's so obscure it's not worth creating them and Nvidia is just incompetent
Thank you so much dringus. Your videos are the reason I believe in the open source movement because only with the movement will stuff like this exist
dringus studios. thats what glotega should have been named
should add on that running CS on linux will have a lot of shader compilation stuff. causes a lot of lag especially when doing new things in the game and in my experience will run every time you start the game.
also bots are killing ur cpu
Csgo ran on Linux fine but ever since CS2 came out it stutters a fuckton now
You are kiddng me? The PS4 runs CS2 in CPU mode and not with GPU. Mangohud does not show you the GPU. Btw Right Shift F9 to 12 are settings for mangohud. Also Gamescope -h720 -H1080 means upscaling from 720p to 1080p. Great vid lad. Also Linux stuff will always upscale the video to the monitor in infinite resolution. This means I would go (1920x1080)/2 = 960d540p
Increase the audio output buffer size againt the crackling. CPU load being around 50% usually means that only half the CPU cores are being used.
Practice games are significantly more demanding because it's running bots off your cpu, and counter strike bots are demanding as hell, maybe if you tried an online game it would've worked better
11:56
i feel like everyone has had that same redragon mouse at least once in their life. also, did you use fsr for the game?
vram, also watching you restart so many times forced me into a ptsd episode from my many years or tinkering with linux and testing distros or having totally broken installs period. Thankfully these days its not so bad but damn 2013 nvidia users be like AGHAGHAGHAGH!
also i like how after the live stream convo you decided to make an entire video of pain and suffering bwahahaha, i super enjoyed it, very entertaining
Now we just need it on the ps5
ps5 pls
Goddang thats runs worse than my nvidia 940 mx laptop. Shoulda tweak the cs2_video.txt files before...
There's something so nostalgic about running CS at less than 10 FPS.
Yup, that audio crackling has been my experience trying to get Linux gaming to work for me. I can get virtually every game in my library to work on Linux (outside of the infamous anti-cheat games...), but no matter what I do, my audio does that *exact* same crackle. Some versions of WINE are somewhat better than others, but it's always present. Tried multiple distros, tinkering with various WINE settings, PulseAudio settings, different versions of display drivers, etc.
So I guess Windows 11 will stick around on my system for a bit longer.
Also, yeah, the shader compilation is a nightmare on Linux. Pretty much every game will have awful FPS for a while when you start it until it finishes its compilation. Proton takes some steps to help with this, but it's more or less unavoidable. And some games will just have that "slow" feeling. Overwatch 2, for example, supposedly ran at 120fps on my system, but it definitely did *not* feel like it. But on Windows, it feels like a completely different game because it actually is running at 120fps.
I know this video is about the PS4, but it just reminded me of all the quirks I've also encountered on PC trying to get Linux gaming to work for me.
Fun fact: CS:GO was ported to the PS3 and Xbox 360 back in the day, the PS3 port even had Steam integration (like the old non big picture Shift-Tab menu but console) and Steam crossplay was promised but never came. Same thing for Portal 2, but Steam crossplay was added there.
Fun fact: The PS3 Steam integration no longer works, except the news tab! You can still access the game news for both CS2 and Portal 2.
A perfect example how differently the same code can be translated on similar, but different platforms. Or how much optimization work being made on console versions of games, how much raw performance power PC games need to render pretty much the same games.
Yeah ikr I was thinking it would run better because it runs decent on the steam deck and immediately after seeing 10fps I went oh yeah duh optimizations aren't here 8gb of ram and that horrible cpu that's even worse then the medicore CPU in the deck
No, it is not at all an example of PC needing more performance to run the same game. The reason that it works so badly is because it was not programmed to run on such slow CPU cores, the programmers expected a minimum core performance level and optimised the code accordingly (i.e kept things in a lower number of threads, which is faster if a computer has the required CPU performance).
@@thedausthed This isn't about CPU. Without extra details, try to run God of War or Uncharted with console settings and resolution on PC with similar specs and you will see how this is "not at all an example of PC needing more performance to run the same game". Spoiler alert: it does, much more performance needed because in addition to different platform, there is usually no f given to optimization in PC ports.
Given your tests, I think Radeon drivers are not working and it is using LLVM to run the 3D on the CPU. You can check with glxinfo and vulkaninfo. But given you don't have multiple resolutions, it is also likely the GPU drivers are not installed on that distro.
This runs Cyberpunk at 30ish, which on a PC that does not can run CS2 at 60 (i5-3470 + GTX660). Htop will say if it is a RAM problem.
CS2 also has the bad habit of turning on FSR on unsupported GPUs, so one usually wants to turn that off or resolution will be lower without the perf benefits.
I already tried CS2 on low end hardware on Linux and find these results strange. If anything, the CPU would be the main problem, as besides being slow, it is further hurt by higher latancy GDDR vs desktops.
Just guessing, but i assume a custom driver probably had to be developed, since the ps4 uses a custom APU so regular drivers probably dont work
@@humanbean6672 On the PS4 they're based on the regular drivers. PS4 Pro has extra hardware for checkerboard rendering, so that one would be extra work.
ive actaully searched cs2 ps4 like 10 times since it came out and i thing ur the first person to actually try it
Should've also tried the "Legacy CS:GO" build on Source 1, just for clarity of experiment and more suffering of this lovely jank.
If you use the internal HDD there could be some reading speed issues, the same for USB tbh
I remember in 2019 before I got a computer good enough to actually run csgo I wanted to put linux on my ps4. but then I looked up a video of the ps4 getting 16 fps on csgo. It doesn't even make sense how they make modern games run on that bad of hardware.
It's not bad hardware, it looks like it wasn't using the GPU at all, so it was doing all the rendering on the CPU
@@gez_4515 if it did that the game would be running like a powerpoint slideshow. its defiently using the GPU
Its because just running a pc game on hardware that was never meant for pc games with no regard for optimization is always going to run like shit. Duh.
It is OS fault
Ps4 hardware isn't bad it's just there's no drivers and pc games aren't optimized to run on ps4 hardware.
I appreciate that you show us the pain of tinkering with stuff. Makes me feel like less of a brainlet.
Honestly if PlayStation actually released it as an official game with optimization, then 60fps would be an easy target for them. Sure they might have to build the game around a new engine but it’s durable for sure.
the problem is that there are no drivers, there is no real support for linux for a ps4 because that's not really it's main purpose. the gpu is very capable of running this game in specific at 60 frames on 1080p low
This audio reminds me of me trying to run animal crossing gamecube on my intel iris laptop with a 2.4 ghz CPU and 4 GB of ram back in like 2015. Good times, and 99% of the reason I got into hardware hacking!
watching bringus probably the most interesting vid to watch right now because my fyp youtube is trash
Truly beatufiul, the brand new "conter-stirk 2" mod on Minecraft 2 looks incredible! Can't wait to try it out on my dusty retired PS4!
it could be interesting to try connecting to a local server hosted on ur pc on ur ps4. then you're not running client and server instances so it could increase framerate
wow my pc its ps4
Subbed after I heard that Sonic R tune during the overclock
with how low the ram is thats probably why performance got better when playing for longer periods ram loads in textures and when its done loading them it usually improves performance, this is the case for every game but if you have say 64gb of ram, don't even worry bout it
Imagine you're playing CS2 and the match is important to you, but your teammate says he's playing on PS4 💀
Now im curious about 1.6
9:44 This issue is because Lxqt (the destop enviroment that you used in the video) uses the openbox windows manager,and that windows manager has bugs with steam. A easy fix is to install Kwin,go to your menu then go to settings and click on session,then select kwin_x11 under the window manager tab. After selecting kwin you will need to restart or log out.
If it was possible for having the proper gpu drivers it would more than likely run better
If it can launch doom, it can launch anything
Almost 100% sure that dedicated gpu drivers were not loaded. If you checked neofetch or something it would show llvmpipe or no gpu.
never thought this video would happen, amazing work!!!
In order to get more FPS set the aspect ratio to 4:3 and not 16:9 or 16:10
Honestly CSGO when it first dropped for the PS3 wasn't THAT bad. I'm sure it wasn't "good" compared to the pc version but it was actually a pretty fun time to be around.
In retrospect, I find it charming as hell. Like, it’s so stupid you can’t help but love it. It’s a bad port, feels clunky and there’s no real reason to play it. But the fact that it exists is amazing to me, it’s a staple of a time when gaming was still fun and innovative.
Maybe using FSR on cs2 would have helped?
I was curious about this too. It’d be interesting to see how the PS4 handles FSR
The "OH WERE BANGING OFF THE REV LIMITER" fucking sent me
2:10 actually a really good segue, well played
I think it will end up on the ps5 but not the 4, considering csgo was playable on the xbox 360 and ps3 makes me guess valve will find a way to optimize it for ps5 and xbox Series
the 360 version was fairly optimised and probably doesn't have much memory leaks. modern source and source 2 games tho have a shit ton of memory leaks
@@MaxCE im not surprised 😂
valve is probably never gonna put cs2 on console lmao
the mere concept is asinine
good content dude keep it up!
Finally actually good sponsor segment
Like it or not this is what peak gaming looks like
the worst thing is that this runs better than my actual pc
my condolences
Your videos are great I can’t get enough keep it going
Amazingly cursed level of banging through launch 😂
Typical Russian CSGO gameplay.
Gamin dankpods????????
That dank pods inspired intro
your second doom toaster video can be about putting chimeraos on it , you would be surprised what a 50 dollar pi can do now a days
The ram usage is high due to vram overflow into system ram, had you played with 4gigs of vram you would have most likely had better performance. That said I dont know how much ram cs2 needs so it may still run like molasses. Edit, this is windows default behavior so it may not apply to Linux, however as its a mildly easy and intelligent optimization I expect its a similar process there.
Yea possibly, and cs2 has some issue either with the vulkan rendere or just the linux variant that doesn't occur with the dx11 windows variant that causes it to usee way more vram.
I loved when Bringus said “It’s bringus time” and bringused all over the place. Beautiful. Truly.
where funny
You should try running aperture desk job on this ps4 lol.
Off topic but nice choice of mouse Redragon Centrophorus mice are great for being cheap.
Should have tried kicking the bots lol. This is awesome tho 😂 the red dragon mouse man noooooo 😂
You should probably switch linux distro, preferably Arch with up to date kernel
Was that can you feel the sunshine from sonic r near the end?
5:18 You thought we wouldn't recognize the 'New Power!' jingle from the 2005 Madagascar video game.... but you were WRONG :)
Its been so long since i laughed this hard to a youtube video lmao, amazing video man
there exist drivers so you can use the gpu on linux ps4 you should really try installing those and seeing how playable you can get the game
banging off the rev limiter had me dying. i was crying
"Were banging off the rev limiter" Was the best LMAOOOOOOOOO
Bro!!! The android logo on the iphone😂😂😂
Perhaps you could try a PS4 Pro and see if you can get the latest mesa drivers installed.
well i guess the slow motion effect is caused due to the game having "Skiping frames" dissabled... meaning if you have low frame rate instead of skipping frames to stay synced it just plays all the frames it would usualy play
Any chance you'd know how to re-enable it for CS2?
4:19 you should voice act benson from regular show
I loved the feeling of a centipede crawling around in my ear while watching this.
Prob the ram limitations that hit the most
I've tried playing cs2 on a old hardware and it got similar fps in the menu and ingame
I recently got a new (very budget) PC but the GPU came in late, so I had to use a i5-7500 integrated GPU, I was still able to get over 60fps in CS2 720p low, I'm amazed that almost 7 year old iGPU preforms better than this.
Ps4 hardware is 10 years old tho😂
@@terskataneli6457 yea but still, the ps4 has a actual GPU, its a 3 year difference yea but still a q1 2017 iGPU is weaker than a q4 2013 console GPU.
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Bringus on
Was NOT ready for the madagascar jumpscare at 5:17
i wish you hosted a game on your local pc to take off some of the cpu load to see what multiplayer would be like?
"the next 29 seconds are unedited" *proceeds to zoom in*
bro these tf2 sound effects make me feel like its 2015 i love it
I feel like this is the setup that people are rocking when they complain about source games performing bad😂
the dankpods influence is so real
He could true to do it in 4:3 and then 800x400 in the in game setting it works for me on my old laptop hope it helps
i miss my modded ps4 sm my family member didnt know it was modded and updated it:( update protector didnt work
Bots tank performance by a lot especially on low performing CPUs. (been there done that)
You could try reduce the amount of bots or go online? But would online work if the game runs at that kinda speed hahaha
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