If you use metal (steel) pick, then the magnetic pickup could hypothetically catch it. But I don't think it's a good idea to use a metal pick, especially on acoustic. It leaves really significant scratches and you can break a string with it if you use thin ones.
Best live acoustic sound I ever heard was an Electrovoice dynamic lavalier mic fastened to a pencil glued across the middle of the soundhole. Can't find those anymore though.
No acoustic guitar pickup sounds as good as an acoustic guitar played directly into a good mic. That out of the way, the only way I would consider using a pickup in an acoustic guitar is with an external equalizer pedal before the PA head. That way there are no holes for controls cut into the guitar body, and an external equalizer works better than a builtin equalizer in my opinion.
I’m the kind of person who would make a chassis to use an internal piezo preamp externally. Sure, might only be as good as a built-in preamp, but I have yet to see an external one I can afford.
Just buy a Maton guitar and save yourself a lot of trouble of messing around with these systems. Or just put a Journeyman system in at a fraction of the cost.
Of course it's impossible to mention all manifacturers and products but the FISHMAN RARE EARTH BLEND and the SEYMOUR DUNCAN SA-6 MAG MIC are very famous and respected products...why not mentioning them? 😕
Using different guitars to demonstrate pickups seems to be missing the point. He originally said and I perhaps paraphrase, was how pickups change the sound of the guitar. If head stayed with the Fender it would have made an opinion on what pickup sound you were going for.
i somewhat agree but these pickup technologies are so different that they almost sound like different types of instruments. you can spot a rubbery piezo in any blend any time, it just sounds like itself. so if this were a metrological demonstration with spectrograms you'd definitely want to minimize variables. like this, it's really no big deal in my opinion.
1:16 Darman magnetic soundhole pickup 2:22 LR Bags m80 magnetic soundhole pickup 3:27 Transducer Pickup 4:49 LR Bags Anthem Mic 5:02 LR Bags Anthem Piezo
There's no real way to do the demo on the exact same guitar every single time. You'd have to remove your strings and the wiring from the guitar every single time and when you're done you'll have changed what the guitar itself sounds like every single time too
@@WorldsOkayistGuitarPlayer No, when you change the strings you change the sound so it's effectively not the same guitar anymore, that's what I was getting at
If a song is written on piezo then it doens't sound right on anything but piezo. They tend to sound better with nylons though. They make steel sound like nylon. Write all your songs on piezo then it'll sound good.
The best sounding "pickup systems" are when you blend different types. I think more sound sources in an acoustic pick up more of the tonal characteristics of an acoustic guitar.
Based on what I've seen and heard on other TH-cam videos, plus more experienced guitarists, since a sound hole pickup is a magnetic pickup, just like on an electric guitar, electric guitar strings work better than acoustic strings. Also, most than a few high end, and some mid-level acoustics as well, have the endpin strap button installed in a pre-drilled hole that will accept a quarter inch jack. That means you can install the jack without drilling, just swapping a few parts.
This may be of interest regarding the K & K mini. I carefully installed one in my Ibanez lawsuit guitar (basically a Martin dreadnought clone they got sued for) , following instructions carefully, using super glue. Plugged in and played it, determined that the treble side transducer was too hot. So I decided to move it away a bit. Oops! K & K instructs that the installed transducers can be reset even when superglued if you are careful. Apparently I was not careful enough, I destroyed that transducer trying to unglue it. Here's the interesting part, it didn't matter! With the two remaining dots, middle and low, the guitar sounds fine! I got rid of the overly bright one completely but highs still come thru. The guitar has a ton of bass, of course, but can be easily controlled with normal eq, and is always there for nice roundness at lower volumes. Sounds great and natural.
I have tried many pickups... The LR Baggs Anthem is the best from my own personal experience. Being able to switch and blend the two really helps with feedback and tone.
What kind of pickup would you recommend for someone who plays fingerstyle stuff in multiple open tunings on a Guild P-240? I have a vintage Jax soundhole pickup but it’s basically a piezo pickup. It looks really cool but I’m not getting the tone I’d like but it could also be the mic. The Jax pickup is on a Recording King ROH-05. I need help with this.
As a rule if thumb I don’t like sound whole pickups but the LR BAGGS M80 is excellent so much better then the others it’s rich warm and natural sounding
Somedays I just don't feel like using any pickup for acoustics playing them in a Silent environment just gives more satisfaction and the pure pure sound.
If not performing live, then I definitely wouldn’t be using a pickup. For very small performances, where I’m barely amplifying my own voice, I will also go fully acoustic on the guitar. However, for a sizable performance, I wouldn’t recommend it
If I’m honest, I think the sound of any of these amplification systems is really disappointing compared to what an acoustic guitar should sound like. We can put a man on the moon but we can’t get a decent electric sound from an acoustic guitar? If anyone has any suggestions for a great sounding electro acoustic, I’m all ears! Aiming for around 1000 euros for a guitar that fits in a pop cover band.
I love my Seagull jumbo acoustic 🎸 - for the $$$ I think it's 👍. . It sounds much better than a more expensive Taylor. The only other 🎸was a Gibson acoustic but it cost $2000 compare to $600 for my Seagull. Can't justify that.
L.R. Baggs M80 and Anthem are the ones that I like the most. But I am still finding it hard to pick an acoustic pick up, since there are a lot of good ones, and I want one that can get as close as possible to the sound of my acoustic
Great video. Most folks just don’t hear that the true tone of an acoustic guitar is extremely bass-y and their brains focus on the highs when they try to consciously analyze the sound. Recording engineers often don’t get it. Listen to the intro of the huge hit low places by Garth Brooks as evidence of some of the worst tone ever recorded. I installed the L.R. Baggs Lyric into one of my guitars which is only the mic part of the Anthem with no piezo. It works like a regular mic on the outside because it rejects the reflections around it so it doesn’t pickup the sound of the inside of the guitar, just the bridge. Then I tried to match the cheap Fishman Isys onboard piezoelectric pickup in another guitar. I was able to achieve this pretty close with a wonderful tone by having the bass at half or a hair more and the mids and treble only barely on from fully off. That’s the key to authentic acoustic we tone. Mix the other instruments in around that sound instead of trying to fit an acoustic guitar into a mix that is for Rock’n’Roll. Tighten the bass and turn it down. Less upright bass sound and more like the left hand of a piano. A little goes along way. The acoustic will carry the song and vocals much better if it doesn’t sound like a tin can attached to a walkie-talkie. Good luck and enjoy your acoustic sounds!
I was lucky to get the last K&K Power-mix from Thomann Mic+Piezo+Pure mini THAT SOUNDS AWESOME I have L.R.Baggs M-1 also, but it sounds to plastic guitar with cold.. not for my taste.
@@karlcountry2363 idk, maybe i will put a Fishman Presys Mic Blend on my acoustic guitar, but I'll cut the piezo off then replace it with passive magnetic pickup. I'm not quite sure if this will work but, yeah i love experimenting 😅😅. The idea was, i love the tone of magnetic pickups (especially if it was a single coil) but i still want to keep the acoustic tone
I'm using a fishman 301 presys+ blend. I replaced the mic with a magnetic rail humbucker pickup. It blends well with the piezo and absolutely feedbackless.
They all sound artificial. A well-placed external condenser mic is the best way to go. If I ever need to plug in again, I’ll just go borrow an electric guitar.
That's a STUPID comment. EVERYONE knows that. But what makes it stupid is the fact that that condenser mic ONLY works at a studio environment. Out of it, it's totally useless, since it'd pick up every sound around it. Keep playing in your couch. Besides, even if it's "artificial," it won't ever sound like an electric guitar. EVER.
@@maraviyoso8473 I wouldn’t say it’s *useless,* but it’s definitely quite hard to set up. You also need to get it pretty close to not produce feedback, but if you have it that close, you can’t move around! So not usable for me. Definitely won’t sound exactly like an electric guitar, though-even a soundhole pickup.
This is great. Thanks. I want a pickup with less labor required on installation and a sound hole pickup is for me and i think i will deliver properly on the sound quality and feedback.
Seems like a good choice for many, but I still go by the K and K now mixed in with a Myers Grip pickup, mainly because my guitar does not have a soundhole in front but just a soundport on the upper side!!...Benoit Lavoie modern flatop!!...
Mains Blanches Thats a good shout, Ive heard some good things about the K&K stuff, but I havnt tried one unfortunately... I will say that I am now trying using a Sunrise (soundhole) instead of the mic... It still sounds amazing live!. ;)
Important to have at least two sound sources, so you can have different effects on one and the other or to have a clean sound and one with effects that you can mix in together!!...magnetic is great for octave pedals and sounds a bit more "electric" in nature!!...the Pure Mini will reproduce a "pure" acoustic guitar tone!!...the mic will give more "air" to the overall sound!!...so many systems out there now days!!...Anthem, Fishman Rare Earth Blend, K and K Trinity or PowerMix or Double Helix mixed in with the Pure Mini, etc...
Can I use a LR Baggs pickup directly into the mixer? Or use piezo-system jack + LR Baggs pickup into mixer (so 2 different jacks into the mixer)? Or I should buy a D.I. first?
The magnetic soundhole pickups sound too much like the neck pickup of a Strat. I'd rather play a Strat instead of this, it deletes the tone change that happens when you pick in different places. If I had to have one I'd rather install it backwards stick one at the part of the soundhole that's closer to the bridge because I pick right between the soundhole and the bridge. the Transducer sounds pretty accurate but pretty mid focused, doesn't capture the full range of the acoustic guitar. the LR Baggs Anthem sounds really good in both parts! I like the blend between both the true mic and piezo
Not until we can point a mic at a guitar, reject all the background noise without destroying sound quality, and have the mic floating in front of the guitar without it being attached (never going to happen)
@@xHadesStamps There is the Myers mic which attaches to the guitar from the outside, but it's both dynamic and omni which is exactly the kind of mic I don't like haha
@@Mr.Goldbar Yeah. Dynamics definitely aren’t what I’d use on an acoustic guitar, that’s for definite. I love them on my voice, though. Omnidirectional live, though? Hell, no. I also don’t want anything attached to my guitar and therefore (basically) me. Definitely not for either of us.
I have an LR Baggs that came with a new Guild D-55E. I can’t stand the look of it. It makes the guitar look like it has a hearing aid... (no offence to any hearing impaired people). Why LR Baggs can’t make it a dark colour is beyond me... I had a Fishman Matrix Infinity Mic blend installed into a Martin HD28V and the sound was incredible. And it was invisible ... I know this is all about sound, but the Anthem looks dreadful and detracts from the beauty of the guitar. I also agree with the comments - it would be great to hear them on the same guitar.
I absolutely hate soundhole pickups for anything except as a backup (if your main pickup fails) or to make a makeshift electric guitar (that sounds a bit different from an actual electric), and an external microphone (or two) is definitely best in the studio, however, they’re a pain to work with live, and if you’re like me and move around, are not workable. While undersaddle piezoelectric pickups on their own definitely don’t sound at all like an acoustic, what I’d prefer is a dual-piezo system; one combining an undersaddle pickup with a soundboard pickup (remember, both are piezoelectric). Being a singing guitarist also helps a little, as some of the tone is captured (albeit at the completely wrong angle) by my vocal mic.
Hello > > > Can i plug the pickup (Harley Benton TrueTone SH-30 Pro Active) directly into the mixer Dynacord (analog\digital etc) and that the guitar sound comes out to the speakers connected to the mixer? > Or do l need some accessories? (Guitar amps, Preamps)
Thanks! I´m working with a Schatten Design transducer und a ART Tube Preamp. In this way I can just have a little overdrive sound on my akkustik guitar. But a lot of times I use a shure SM 58 mike. And sometimes I mix. I think yousing a normal singers mike is still a verry simple and good sounding way.
Hello, I play an acoustic instrument. is there any wireless that can work just only with under saddle pieso pickup (Passive) with out any preamp or EQ Mounted over instrument? I had the same wireless problem with transducer mics as well. They both work only when a preamp system is between mic and wireless. I tested a lot and all wireless systems work with the help of pre amp or with magnetic electric guitar mics installed over the instrument and could not be able to find anything working and adaptable wireless system just with under saddle mic or sticking transducer mic over the acoustic instrument. Thanks in advance.
K&K sounded best by far, but with different guitars it's hard to tell. Magnetic soundhole pickups always sound... metallic. I wish the K&K Trinity (transducers + mic) was not so expensive.
Cheers for the useful video, would have been nice to have the one guitar fitted with each and to have the room mic turned off to allow direct comparison
Quit using reverb for clickbait practices of advertising ukuleles at very affordable prices and linking the ukulele listing to a set of strings instead of the ukulele advertised. It's false advertising. I won't shop there.
Zabardast cheers from Toronto. Where exactly to place this inside the guitar as the one in my Yamaha APTX2, 3/4 guitar dropped in. It is about 1 inches in diameter and has glue on one side? Not like the one you are using.
Why didn't you show my the acoustic guitars without the systems (magnetic pick up/transducer/internal microphone) as recorded by an external dynamic mic or condenser mic? As would be done for a person who has none of these systems, and therefore would be interested in getting one. And why did you change guitars constantly! that just destroys any ability to compare the various systems as the guitars will have different tones also. For instance the tonal difference between the two sound hole magnetic pickups is impossible to really know as you changed guitars.🤔😑
Hi Joe (and everyone else for that matter) I'm wondering if an internal mic gives the same sound texture as a DI? Is an internal mic worth it? Also If I already have an under-saddle pickup, would it make any difference to buy a piezo or soundhole pick-up? Cheers guys
My conclusion is if you need a good pickup you have to be ready to pay lotta money or have a bit of knowledges of electronics. And solder, solder, solder😁😁
this review did no good, because each time you showed an example of each pick up, you switched guitar, making it hard to tell the differeneces. thanks for nothing
That lr baggs anthem mic sound isn’t correct. There’s a wee volume setting for the mic you turn with a screw and it’s set too low here. That’s why the sound is woolly and has no top end.
Thanks a really useful overview and love this guy's playing. The blend on the Anthem sounds great... looks like it would work really well live if switching between ballads (think Annie's Song) primarily on the microphone setting and then bashing out some blues type stuff when perhaps a bit more of the piezo sound would help.
I love my Highlander pickup and frequently get glowing comments on the great sound of my guitar. For years I used the IP-1 model but recently I installed the IP-2 model which gives me dual pickup capabilities.
could any of these pickup the pick that i dropped in the soundhole thanks
dagny hahaha
🤣
If you use metal (steel) pick, then the magnetic pickup could hypothetically catch it. But I don't think it's a good idea to use a metal pick, especially on acoustic. It leaves really significant scratches and you can break a string with it if you use thin ones.
Yes. Just use a feedback blocker.
Bad joke
Best live acoustic sound I ever heard was an Electrovoice dynamic lavalier mic fastened to a pencil glued across the middle of the soundhole. Can't find those anymore though.
agreed, Except I found one a while back. Should start using it again
No acoustic guitar pickup sounds as good as an acoustic guitar played directly into a good mic. That out of the way, the only way I would consider using a pickup in an acoustic guitar is with an external equalizer pedal before the PA head. That way there are no holes for controls cut into the guitar body, and an external equalizer works better than a builtin equalizer in my opinion.
I’m the kind of person who would make a chassis to use an internal piezo preamp externally. Sure, might only be as good as a built-in preamp, but I have yet to see an external one I can afford.
Just buy a Maton guitar and save yourself a lot of trouble of messing around with these systems. Or just put a Journeyman system in at a fraction of the cost.
Of course it's impossible to mention all manifacturers and products but the FISHMAN RARE EARTH BLEND and the SEYMOUR DUNCAN SA-6 MAG MIC are very famous and respected products...why not mentioning them? 😕
Using different guitars to demonstrate pickups seems to be missing the point. He originally said and I perhaps paraphrase, was how pickups change the sound of the guitar. If head stayed with the Fender it would have made an opinion on what pickup sound you were going for.
Exactly what I was thinking.
That, and palm muting, using a capo... Really great idea but awful execution.
@@Bejaardenbus what was the purpose of palm muting? I thought that was really weird
i somewhat agree but these pickup technologies are so different that they almost sound like different types of instruments. you can spot a rubbery piezo in any blend any time, it just sounds like itself. so if this were a metrological demonstration with spectrograms you'd definitely want to minimize variables. like this, it's really no big deal in my opinion.
man his not gonna drill 400 holes in his guitar, he has to use différents guitars
"Really easy to use and swap out" yet uses a different guitar every time 🤔
He did that to make the examples easier to showcase
i do hate piezzo with passion, i understand it has its place in mix with rock band setup, but man, it sound same on the 50 guitar, as on a 28 martin.
I hate the sound of piezo acoustics so so much.
M P oh I like it
I hate the pasty sound of the anthem one. at 5:00
@@austin84617 lol
People always say that but I love it for some reason.
Wish it was that simple, it all depends on the guitar and the piezo in my opinion.
Should have stuck to one guitar.
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Exactly my thought
1:16 Darman magnetic soundhole pickup
2:22 LR Bags m80 magnetic soundhole pickup
3:27 Transducer Pickup
4:49 LR Bags Anthem Mic
5:02 LR Bags Anthem Piezo
Nice video, I liked the LR Baggs magnetic pickup the best far and away, but I'm sure everybody has their own opinions.
"Hey! You've got to hide your love away!.."
Was wondering if anyone else recognised that at the beginning :)
batyrlan bopbekoff I’ve already said it mate
Brooo😂😂😂
I thought it was One More Time.
Let's review the different sounds you get from pickups and, just to make it all confusing and pointless, we'll change guitars too.
😂
and play different styles and with different techinques on each setup to further muddy the water.
There's no real way to do the demo on the exact same guitar every single time. You'd have to remove your strings and the wiring from the guitar every single time and when you're done you'll have changed what the guitar itself sounds like every single time too
@@NearEDGE You just completely contradicted yourself; "there's no real way to do it" --> Proceeds to explain exactly how to do it
@@WorldsOkayistGuitarPlayer No, when you change the strings you change the sound so it's effectively not the same guitar anymore, that's what I was getting at
Does anyone else dislike the Piezo sound? It's like the guitar has a stuffy nose.
If a song is written on piezo then it doens't sound right on anything but piezo. They tend to sound better with nylons though. They make steel sound like nylon. Write all your songs on piezo then it'll sound good.
The best sounding "pickup systems" are when you blend different types. I think more sound sources in an acoustic pick up more of the tonal characteristics of an acoustic guitar.
the more of a nightmare it becomes.
That is true. But the tradeoff is it’s more complicated to actually install without creating problems
great vid, i wish the different pickups would have been used on the same guitar though especially since one of the guitars was of different body type
K&K sounded the best by far, followed by the Baggs soundhole pickup.
No.
@@maraviyoso8473 agreed
I've also never liked the nasally sound of even a good piezo pickup, and the transducer had some of that tone also. The LR Baggs sounded really good.
Lol nasally yes
K&K Pure Mini is what I've put in every guitar.
I liked the sound of the LR Baggs sound hole pickup the best.
I picked up a Neo D from Fishman for my '76 Martin D35 since I didn't think drilling a hole in it would be smart. Sounds great!
There are already 6 holes for the strings in the bridge ;-)
Based on what I've seen and heard on other TH-cam videos, plus more experienced guitarists, since a sound hole pickup is a magnetic pickup, just like on an electric guitar, electric guitar strings work better than acoustic strings. Also, most than a few high end, and some mid-level acoustics as well, have the endpin strap button installed in a pre-drilled hole that will accept a quarter inch jack. That means you can install the jack without drilling, just swapping a few parts.
This may be of interest regarding the K & K mini. I carefully installed one in my Ibanez lawsuit guitar (basically a Martin dreadnought clone they got sued for) , following instructions carefully, using super glue. Plugged in and played it, determined that the treble side transducer was too hot. So I decided to move it away a bit. Oops! K & K instructs that the installed transducers can be reset even when superglued if you are careful. Apparently I was not careful enough, I destroyed that transducer trying to unglue it. Here's the interesting part, it didn't matter! With the two remaining dots, middle and low, the guitar sounds fine! I got rid of the overly bright one completely but highs still come thru. The guitar has a ton of bass, of course, but can be easily controlled with normal eq, and is always there for nice roundness at lower volumes. Sounds great and natural.
I have tried many pickups... The LR Baggs Anthem is the best from my own personal experience. Being able to switch and blend the two really helps with feedback and tone.
Does Distortion works on that stuff?
Imagine installing all the with a strat style pickup selector
Does the quality of the piezo affect feedback? Or is that just a sensitivity/volume issue?
Mic all the way. The piezo sound is the hallmark ‘clunk’ of a cheap acoustic at open mics
Yeah. And then become a useless guitarist because of the feedback.
LR Baggs M80 sounded the most natural
What kind of pickup would you recommend for someone who plays fingerstyle stuff in multiple open tunings on a Guild P-240?
I have a vintage Jax soundhole pickup but it’s basically a piezo pickup. It looks really cool but I’m not getting the tone I’d like but it could also be the mic. The Jax pickup is on a Recording King ROH-05.
I need help with this.
As a rule if thumb I don’t like sound whole pickups but the LR BAGGS M80 is excellent so much better then the others it’s rich warm and natural sounding
Thank you for the informative breakdown of acoustic/electric options. That was a bizarre adventure Mojo Jojo!
I would imagine just putting a mic in the sound hole then plugging it in
That almost impossible
Why?
ive done this with a cheap lavalier mic and it's not perfect but on a really tight budget it works for me, better than the pickup i have in the guitar
Who taught you to write? And that’s after it’s edited
@@travis8947 in my defense i was stupid a year ago
Too bad you need to use these every now and then for live use. And they all sound pretty aweful to be honest...
Somedays I just don't feel like using any pickup for acoustics playing them in a Silent environment just gives more satisfaction and the pure pure sound.
If not performing live, then I definitely wouldn’t be using a pickup. For very small performances, where I’m barely amplifying my own voice, I will also go fully acoustic on the guitar. However, for a sizable performance, I wouldn’t recommend it
If I’m honest, I think the sound of any of these amplification systems is really disappointing compared to what an acoustic guitar should sound like. We can put a man on the moon but we can’t get a decent electric sound from an acoustic guitar? If anyone has any suggestions for a great sounding electro acoustic, I’m all ears! Aiming for around 1000 euros for a guitar that fits in a pop cover band.
Maton
I love my Seagull jumbo acoustic 🎸 - for the $$$ I think it's 👍. . It sounds much better than a more expensive Taylor.
The only other 🎸was a Gibson acoustic but it cost $2000 compare to $600 for my Seagull. Can't justify that.
L.R. Baggs M80 and Anthem are the ones that I like the most. But I am still finding it hard to pick an acoustic pick up, since there are a lot of good ones, and I want one that can get as close as possible to the sound of my acoustic
Great video. Most folks just don’t hear that the true tone of an acoustic guitar is extremely bass-y and their brains focus on the highs when they try to consciously analyze the sound. Recording engineers often don’t get it. Listen to the intro of the huge hit low places by Garth Brooks as evidence of some of the worst tone ever recorded. I installed the L.R. Baggs Lyric into one of my guitars which is only the mic part of the Anthem with no piezo. It works like a regular mic on the outside because it rejects the reflections around it so it doesn’t pickup the sound of the inside of the guitar, just the bridge. Then I tried to match the cheap Fishman Isys onboard piezoelectric pickup in another guitar. I was able to achieve this pretty close with a wonderful tone by having the bass at half or a hair more and the mids and treble only barely on from fully off. That’s the key to authentic acoustic we tone. Mix the other instruments in around that sound instead of trying to fit an acoustic guitar into a mix that is for Rock’n’Roll. Tighten the bass and turn it down. Less upright bass sound and more like the left hand of a piano. A little goes along way. The acoustic will carry the song and vocals much better if it doesn’t sound like a tin can attached to a walkie-talkie. Good luck and enjoy your acoustic sounds!
I was lucky to get the last K&K Power-mix from Thomann Mic+Piezo+Pure mini THAT SOUNDS AWESOME I have L.R.Baggs M-1 also, but it sounds to plastic guitar with cold.. not for my taste.
Way up there on top my friend!!...
I was thinking to mix magnetic and mic together...
How would you do that? I have an m80, what pickup would you match it with?
@@karlcountry2363 idk, maybe i will put a Fishman Presys Mic Blend on my acoustic guitar, but I'll cut the piezo off then replace it with passive magnetic pickup. I'm not quite sure if this will work but, yeah i love experimenting 😅😅.
The idea was, i love the tone of magnetic pickups (especially if it was a single coil) but i still want to keep the acoustic tone
Why would you blend 50/50 mic and pickup if its a pickup demo? Just mic the amp!
Might be because the mic is part of the pick up
I'm using a fishman 301 presys+ blend. I replaced the mic with a magnetic rail humbucker pickup. It blends well with the piezo and absolutely feedbackless.
Maybe this is a dumb question but does it do anything if the guitar is not plugged into an amp?
Yeah that was a dumb question
Yeah, as long as it’s plugged into a mixing board or an active loudspeaker. Plugged into nothing, though, no.
They all sound artificial. A well-placed external condenser mic is the best way to go. If I ever need to plug in again, I’ll just go borrow an electric guitar.
That's a STUPID comment. EVERYONE knows that. But what makes it stupid is the fact that that condenser mic ONLY works at a studio environment. Out of it, it's totally useless, since it'd pick up every sound around it. Keep playing in your couch. Besides, even if it's "artificial," it won't ever sound like an electric guitar. EVER.
Or a dynamic mic with low gain...
@@maraviyoso8473 you got a problem with playing on a couch?
Ear Trumpet Edwina tuned to about 18”. Bluegrass bands use condenser mics live all the time.
@@maraviyoso8473 I wouldn’t say it’s *useless,* but it’s definitely quite hard to set up. You also need to get it pretty close to not produce feedback, but if you have it that close, you can’t move around! So not usable for me. Definitely won’t sound exactly like an electric guitar, though-even a soundhole pickup.
L.R. Baggs Anthem: $200-$300, plus installation.
The SL version is cheaper and, IMO, better most of the time
This is great. Thanks.
I want a pickup with less labor required on installation and a sound hole pickup is for me and i think i will deliver properly on the sound quality and feedback.
Dude! Thanks for the effort but that was incredibly pointless, lol.
If you are comparing pickups then why would you change guitar each time?
The piezo sounds more natural but is less prone to feedback
Good vid...
I eventually found my way to the Anthem, i haven't looked back!.
Seems like a good choice for many, but I still go by the K and K now mixed in with a Myers Grip pickup, mainly because my guitar does not have a soundhole in front but just a soundport on the upper side!!...Benoit Lavoie modern flatop!!...
Mains Blanches Thats a good shout, Ive heard some good things about the K&K stuff, but I havnt tried one unfortunately...
I will say that I am now trying using a Sunrise (soundhole) instead of the mic... It still sounds amazing live!. ;)
Important to have at least two sound sources, so you can have different effects on one and the other or to have a clean sound and one with effects that you can mix in together!!...magnetic is great for octave pedals and sounds a bit more "electric" in nature!!...the Pure Mini will reproduce a "pure" acoustic guitar tone!!...the mic will give more "air" to the overall sound!!...so many systems out there now days!!...Anthem, Fishman Rare Earth Blend, K and K Trinity or PowerMix or Double Helix mixed in with the Pure Mini, etc...
Great explanation and demonstration of the different options. Thanks!
Can I use a LR Baggs pickup directly into the mixer? Or use piezo-system jack + LR Baggs pickup into mixer (so 2 different jacks into the mixer)? Or I should buy a D.I. first?
The magnetic soundhole pickups sound too much like the neck pickup of a Strat. I'd rather play a Strat instead of this, it deletes the tone change that happens when you pick in different places. If I had to have one I'd rather install it backwards stick one at the part of the soundhole that's closer to the bridge because I pick right between the soundhole and the bridge.
the Transducer sounds pretty accurate but pretty mid focused, doesn't capture the full range of the acoustic guitar.
the LR Baggs Anthem sounds really good in both parts! I like the blend between both the true mic and piezo
Not until we can point a mic at a guitar, reject all the background noise without destroying sound quality, and have the mic floating in front of the guitar without it being attached (never going to happen)
@@xHadesStamps There is the Myers mic which attaches to the guitar from the outside, but it's both dynamic and omni which is exactly the kind of mic I don't like haha
@@Mr.Goldbar Yeah. Dynamics definitely aren’t what I’d use on an acoustic guitar, that’s for definite. I love them on my voice, though. Omnidirectional live, though? Hell, no. I also don’t want anything attached to my guitar and therefore (basically) me. Definitely not for either of us.
I have an LR Baggs that came with a new Guild D-55E. I can’t stand the look of it. It makes the guitar look like it has a hearing aid... (no offence to any hearing impaired people). Why LR Baggs can’t make it a dark colour is beyond me... I had a Fishman Matrix Infinity Mic blend installed into a Martin HD28V and the sound was incredible. And it was invisible ... I know this is all about sound, but the Anthem looks dreadful and detracts from the beauty of the guitar. I also agree with the comments - it would be great to hear them on the same guitar.
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but different pickups om different guitars! thought maybe different pickups on same guitar?
I absolutely hate soundhole pickups for anything except as a backup (if your main pickup fails) or to make a makeshift electric guitar (that sounds a bit different from an actual electric), and an external microphone (or two) is definitely best in the studio, however, they’re a pain to work with live, and if you’re like me and move around, are not workable. While undersaddle piezoelectric pickups on their own definitely don’t sound at all like an acoustic, what I’d prefer is a dual-piezo system; one combining an undersaddle pickup with a soundboard pickup (remember, both are piezoelectric). Being a singing guitarist also helps a little, as some of the tone is captured (albeit at the completely wrong angle) by my vocal mic.
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Anthem was a disappointment...the M80 sounded best to me in this comparison. The Seymour Duncan MagMic in hole also sounds real nice.
Too sad while my Yamaha F-310 was more cheaper than some of these picksup :( still wathing vedios to find something worthy of my Baby
DIssapointed...you should be using exact same songs for the testing....
Thanks!
I´m working with a Schatten Design transducer und a ART Tube Preamp. In this way I can just have a little overdrive sound on my akkustik guitar. But a lot of times I use a shure SM 58 mike. And sometimes I mix.
I think yousing a normal singers mike is still a verry simple and good sounding way.
Hello, I play an acoustic instrument. is there any wireless that can work just only with under saddle pieso pickup (Passive) with out any preamp or EQ Mounted over instrument?
I had the same wireless problem with transducer mics as well.
They both work only when a preamp system is between mic and wireless.
I tested a lot and all wireless systems work with the help of pre amp or with magnetic electric guitar mics installed over the instrument and could not be able to find anything working and adaptable wireless system just with under saddle mic or sticking transducer mic over the acoustic instrument.
Thanks in advance.
K&K sounded best by far, but with different guitars it's hard to tell. Magnetic soundhole pickups always sound... metallic. I wish the K&K Trinity (transducers + mic) was not so expensive.
Cheers for the useful video, would have been nice to have the one guitar fitted with each and to have the room mic turned off to allow direct comparison
Quit using reverb for clickbait practices of advertising ukuleles at very affordable prices and linking the ukulele listing to a set of strings instead of the ukulele advertised. It's false advertising. I won't shop there.
Zabardast cheers from Toronto. Where exactly to place this inside the guitar as the one in my Yamaha APTX2, 3/4 guitar dropped in. It is about 1 inches in diameter and has glue on one side? Not like the one you are using.
Personally I like using all three at once
Why didn't you show my the acoustic guitars without the systems (magnetic pick up/transducer/internal microphone) as recorded by an external dynamic mic or condenser mic? As would be done for a person who has none of these systems, and therefore would be interested in getting one. And why did you change guitars constantly! that just destroys any ability to compare the various systems as the guitars will have different tones also. For instance the tonal difference between the two sound hole magnetic pickups is impossible to really know as you changed guitars.🤔😑
Hi Joe (and everyone else for that matter) I'm wondering if an internal mic gives the same sound texture as a DI? Is an internal mic worth it?
Also If I already have an under-saddle pickup, would it make any difference to buy a piezo or soundhole pick-up?
Cheers guys
If there's anything that this video proves, its that picked acoustic guitar sounds fucking awful.
My conclusion is if you need a good pickup you have to be ready to pay lotta money or have a bit of knowledges of electronics. And solder, solder, solder😁😁
Great video, super useful info! Which option would be the cheapest way of avoiding Feedback?
Thanks for trying, but use the same guitar for God's sake. How is anyone supposed to hear the difference?
this review did no good, because each time you showed an example of each pick up, you switched guitar, making it hard to tell the differeneces. thanks for nothing
That lr baggs anthem mic sound isn’t correct. There’s a wee volume setting for the mic you turn with a screw and it’s set too low here. That’s why the sound is woolly and has no top end.
Just use 3 Sigma or Hotone acoustic simulator pedal. They actually sound like an acoustic. No pickup alone is going to do a good job.
Not a guitarist, but the true mic has the best sound
It'd be nice to hear them compared to a studio mic setup, just to hear the difference for comparison against the gold standard.
Lr baggs Anthem tru mic blended with Element piezo sounds best
I literally just purchase electric guitar pickups and mount them in acoustics.
That’s nasty
If only you didn't played so close to saddle so everything isn't sounding so electric
You should really use the same guitar for all these pick up examples. Goddamn
Thanks a really useful overview and love this guy's playing. The blend on the Anthem sounds great... looks like it would work really well live if switching between ballads (think Annie's Song) primarily on the microphone setting and then bashing out some blues type stuff when perhaps a bit more of the piezo sound would help.
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Is there a good pickup for a 3/4 size guitar?
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I installed a K&K Pure Mini in my Yahama and it works great.
Why you people hate piezo!
Infact it sounds pretty good 😕
I tried a Fender y it doesn't sound at all, do I need an amplifier or just plug it in a main? Help please
Fishman Rare Earth Blend combines a mic with a humbucker pickup. Very versatile.
That mixed in with a K and K Pure Mini and youre in for a good ride!!...
I love my Highlander pickup and frequently get glowing comments on the great sound of my guitar.
For years I used the IP-1 model but recently I installed the IP-2 model which gives me dual pickup capabilities.
Not all passive. Takamine required battery
you guys make such great videos. Really refreshing to have good pro demo videos on youtube.
what string did you use on the LR Baggs M80?
The piezo is a kind of transducer pickup
Ahh that George Harrison song at 2:21
Absolutely love that song
Is it my sweet lord?
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When you said you could drill the body, I turned off.
The Dearmond requires nickel strings.
M80 and Anthem for me!
I have a set of flat wound Chromes (electric guitar strings) on my Taylor Big Baby. Could I attach a humbucker? Would it sound any good?
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