The Most Faithful Recreation of Peter Green's Sound?! - NEW Pickups from Monty's Guitars!

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  • Peter Green is known as the founder of Fleetwood Mac, but he is also known for the signature 'out of phase' tone that he had on his Gibson Les Paul. So Monty, from Monty's Guitars, built a new set of pickups to recreate Peter Green's iconic Sound! | tinyurl.com/y84sptdr
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    In today's video The Captain sits down with Monty from Monty's Guitars to talk about his new set of pickups, the Bethnal Green. The Bethnal Green faithfully recreates Peter Green's signature 'out of phase' tone. How did they manage do this you may ask? Well Monty was able to play Peter Green's Guitar and took copious measurements and readings of its pickups!
    In this video we compare the new Monty's Guitars Bethnal Green PAF humbucker pickup set with a stock 50's Les Paul, an Epiphone Les Paul, Lee's Les Paul and Pete's Les Paul!
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    » 0:00 Intro Jam
    » 0:31 What are We Doing Today?
    » 3:25 How did Peter Green Get his Signature Tone?
    » 7:20 What are the Differences Between a Stock 50's Les Paul and the Bethnal Green Les Paul?
    » 9:50 Let's Get Some Tones from the Stock Les Paul
    » 10:24 Tones from the Bethnal Green Les Paul
    » 14:18 How was Monty Able to Recreate the Peter Green Sound?
    » 18:03 Let's Get Some Tones from All the Les Pauls
    » 27:00 Is Flipping the Neck Pickup enough to Get the Peter Green Sound?
    » 28:30 More Tones from the Bethnal Green Les Paul
    » 30:20 Final Comparison with the Stock 50's Les Paul
    » 31:12 Final Overview & Thoughts
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  • @iamtorrego
    @iamtorrego 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    “There isn’t one better than the other”
    My ears ABSOLUTELY goes for the Montys all the time. What a great sound!!

  • @petercullen3862
    @petercullen3862 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Listen to the live albums recorded at the Boston tea party with fantastic call and response between Danny (God blessed him) Kirwan and Peter Green. These two guys were mind blowing....

  • @stimpsonjcat67
    @stimpsonjcat67 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I just got my 'Danish Pete' DP51Ts installed in my recent partscaster tele.
    Very happy with them.

  • @Bfaxi1
    @Bfaxi1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love this type of video! Thanks Lee and Monty!

  • @RayKit
    @RayKit 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Montys pickups are phenomenal!! I have a 1962 set in my 1962 fender strat. Beautiful and perfect replicas.

  • @Yoni168
    @Yoni168 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Don’t ask me what I think of these,
    I might not give the answer that you want me to

    • @pharmerdavid1432
      @pharmerdavid1432 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Don't ask me what I think of you...

  • @malcolmbenn1051
    @malcolmbenn1051 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Good video and great to see that Peter Green's playing and guitar mod is still of interest to players. I did this mod 20+ years ago to my 92 Les Paul Studio. Back then it was still a bit of a mystery as to how that "quack" tone was achieved so I to the lazy way out and made contact with Seymour Duncan and he built me on using and Antiquity pickup as the starting point and then I replaced the bridge pickup with a stock Antiquity pickup. I also use flat wound strings to get as close to the late 60's British blues sound. And you're spot on with the effect of rolling off the bridge pickup volume to modify the tone ... my actually gets slightly louder as I roll down the volume to 8 and the tone changes slightly. Again great video.

  • @SouthpawSatch
    @SouthpawSatch 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is such a fantastic video to get Matt's input on pickup building and those Bethnal Greens sound great. I already own a set of Monty's PAFs with phase reversal switching in a Les Paul Tribute, Monty's also made a new loom for and I love them. They get me in the Greeny ballpark. Absolutely fantastic pickups that nail the original PAF tone. Highly recommended Montys, some of the best repros on the market imo.

  • @davidpask4232
    @davidpask4232 2 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    I played Albatross with Peter Green in 1980s on his Birthday at a social club at Collierswood. We both played on Fender Stratocasters. He was a very humble man, and he showed me Albatross using open chords, ( B) A, Emaj13th, and I still play it the way he taught me. What I like to know what school he attended, as we had a Peter Green in my class in the sixties, i doubt if it were the same guy.

    • @bigtguitars7312
      @bigtguitars7312 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I had a Peter Green in my class at primary school in Stevenage in the 80s he was a white dude with a Afro but I don’t think he was the same Peter Green either

    • @enlightenedchristian3183
      @enlightenedchristian3183 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Too cool.

    • @enlightenedchristian3183
      @enlightenedchristian3183 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      His name was Greenbaum like "Spirit in the sky" Norman Greenbaum.

    • @davidpask4232
      @davidpask4232 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@enlightenedchristian3183 Your so right, I read some where he dropped the Baum as it were a Jewish name. Not sure about the Norman though.

    • @plasticpaddy5278
      @plasticpaddy5278 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      the captains dad was in a band with him at school, check captain meets his dad vid

  • @mortonwilson795
    @mortonwilson795 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great conversation - really informative! I'm up for some Monty's soon - the Underspuns for sure, maybe the Bethnal Greens for another of my guitars . . . thanks for such an enjoyable overview!

  • @dangerpowers123
    @dangerpowers123 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Interesting stuff. Loving the Andertons channel. Picked up a Jazzmaster from you last year and love it. ❤️

  • @thecaveofthedead
    @thecaveofthedead 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    These pickups do the job. But around sounding like Peter Green - a _lot_ of his tone was the bridge pickup, and sometimes the neck pickup (especially in his last FM days). And that woody, unpotted PAF sound you hear on the TV version of Oh Well that sounds like a Telecaster before he swings up the volume and it roars... unpotted PAF clone and '50s wiring.
    It's not all about the out-of-phase sound. Though, like I say, these pickups are doing a great job in all positions.

  • @jaspersquire5931
    @jaspersquire5931 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well done Matt! You fixed my guitars twice!! 💪

  • @MAAACIxD
    @MAAACIxD 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I did the Pickup Mod on my 59' Les Paul Reissue and it sounds amazing! Sustain all day long!

  • @jirafavilla
    @jirafavilla 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I own several Monty's humbuckers and telecaster pickups, they are all Fantastic....!!! 🤟🤟👏👏👏

  • @jefftucker201
    @jefftucker201 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great to see Matt from Monty's on the show again, his products are legen...wait for it....dary!

  • @Bobby_Digital37
    @Bobby_Digital37 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great pickups from a great manufacturer!!!

  • @matthewdeem4611
    @matthewdeem4611 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I learned a lot from this.....thank you so much

  • @thornwivans
    @thornwivans 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The burst on the new Gibson and Epiphones both look awesome.

  • @johnmundt7834
    @johnmundt7834 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    They sound great, nice work

  • @ashleyjackson8538
    @ashleyjackson8538 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video !!

  • @Lukemcefc
    @Lukemcefc 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    you can do this to any set of humbuckers quite easy. I done it to the stock ones in my R8 and sounds great.

    • @JaimeCerrada
      @JaimeCerrada 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's it. By rotating the magnet 180º (And it is not necessary to rotate the pickup).

    • @canadianintheukbrian
      @canadianintheukbrian 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I like my PAF's on my guitar , cost less too lol , if I said the brand of guitar and pickups, oh shit the missile's would be unleashed lol , and its not Harley Benton, it's a UK brand guitar lol, where the designer actually worked with Seth Lover,

  • @Paul-D
    @Paul-D 2 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    ive tried quite a few Montys pickups, they sound great. There clearly always well made, great quality components etc, nice branding and makes you feel special opening them up. But..... i really think new pickups can only be SO expensive before its just crossing the line. A pair of brand new humbuckers for £450... is ALOT

    • @TheJamison76
      @TheJamison76 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Alegree based in England makes custom PAF's for £70 a set. They're my go to company for pickup upgrades.

    • @jmabs5096
      @jmabs5096 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Ps3GamerVideos not sure if your talking used, inspired by are going for $649 the cheapest - $949 most sit around $849 new. That's 625 pounds for folks over the pond.

    • @Nikoo033
      @Nikoo033 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Ps3GamerVideos I used to say that too, especially for single coils. But I have to say, Lollar Imperial humbuckers are…something else 🥰

    • @enlightenedchristian3183
      @enlightenedchristian3183 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Nikoo033 I don't like to sprout off about similar brands on a forum promoting a particular brand its raining on the makers parade ,it's nice to be nice ,imagine meeting Gary Moore and crapping off about bloody John Norum being a great player AND can sing like Phil Lynott at the same time, BUT mentioning Lollar Imperials is the exception, Nashville session players 1st choice and reasonably priced all things considered, Godly heavenly glorious tones non derivative of the proverbial sonic holy grail '59's .Fair play..
      I totally rate these Montys ,the full Monty I'll stick them in one of my Paul's 100% it's great to alternate between the best of the best for the sonic pallette.

    • @Nikoo033
      @Nikoo033 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@enlightenedchristian3183 I am not particularly knowledgeable with respect to pickups, I am just sharing my experience of having these Lollar Imperial in my Eastman SB57, and they just sound immense. I didn’t know they are appreciated in Nashville. Thanks for the info. ☺️

  • @I_like_turtles_67
    @I_like_turtles_67 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great looking and sounding LP.

  • @JaimeCerrada
    @JaimeCerrada 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The "out of phase" mod is an instant Freddie King to me, more than Peter Green thing.
    Thank you for the video!

  • @markroylance1584
    @markroylance1584 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm tempted by Matt's paf replicas..... My son has a daphne blue jazz master built by him when he was but a lad at Chandler Guitars in Kew.... It's a fabulous guitar... And he's a lovely guy!

  • @joem1256
    @joem1256 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I had an R7 with the WCF version of the Green pickups. The way that you "adjust" the tone in that middle position is by plying with the volume of each pickup. If you have both at the same level, that is when you get the most scooped sound. Listen to the last solo on the cut "Watch Out" from the Chicago album for a good example.

    • @vayabroder729
      @vayabroder729 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The great Mr. Greenbaum was constantly manipulating his Les Paul’s controls to coax an infinite number of tones out of it; not mentioning his magic delicate touch. Yes, with the ‘50’s wiring and those pickups the controls become very interactive and even confusing; sometimes you expect the tone to be a certain way and they react in the exact opposite 😉.

  • @josephgrant757
    @josephgrant757 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This tone actually goes way back to the days when T-Bone walker had this sound on his ES-5(which had 3 P90’s) don’t know the story of the T-Bone Walker tone but I know it had existed way before Peter Green’s Out of Phase tone had came. Even Earl Hooker had some out of phase tones on some of his recordings! Peter Green for sure had given this tone more spotlight and giving the time people were wondering how he had gotten that tone compared to the days of T-Bone Walker and Earl Hooker were when the tone was starting to come it really wasn’t given the spotlight! Albert King supposely had Lucy wired out of phase but even I heard somewhere BB King played out of phase at somepoint! Peter shown light on an forgotten tone and got people wanting to play like him and have humbuckers and P90’s wired out of phase. Next to blues I think it could be a good country tone! Best videos I’ve loved watching this month next to ya’ll developing the Silver Sky SE! Thanks for showing some love on an underrated tone fellas! Btw I think the bass on the out of phase pickups is alot more warmer and the trebele is the right amount of bright but warm as well!

    • @ksharpe10
      @ksharpe10 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Peter Frampton is well known for the out of Phase. Listen to early recordings or the last recordings of Humble pie, but mainly his solo career.

  • @pharmerdavid1432
    @pharmerdavid1432 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I just wanted to add that Gibson didn't release their "Greeny" pickups until August 2023, so Monty did it first. I have a used Epiphone Greeny model I got this year used (2024) which uses Gibson Greeny pickups, and I LOVE it (Greeny fan from 1972). I also have an Epiphone 1959 reissue with "custom buckers", and slightly prefer the Greeny pickups, which are hotter so the bridge pickup is fuller sounding (like comparing a broadcaster pickup to a later telecaster pickup). Monty is becoming legendary, and for good reason too, thanks Cap'n!

  • @danduntz9112
    @danduntz9112 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love my Monty’s pickups! I will no longer buy mine from anywhere else. The customer service and assistance in spec’ing out the ones that will work best in my guitars has been very helpful.

  • @jamesmarciniec4787
    @jamesmarciniec4787 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sounds great.
    My 2020 Gibson Les Paul Classic has an out of phase option that sounds quite good. Not sure how close it's to the Peter Green sound but sounds good to my ears.

  • @Notpetedoherty
    @Notpetedoherty 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Montys rewound my pickups on my ‘79 schecter strat. They still sound amazing. The guys are sonic geniuses🤣

  • @antreb15
    @antreb15 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have a set of 'Greenies' by Seymour Duncan, custom shop and they are great pickups. That middle position on those 'Bethnal Greens' is superb.

  • @dennisflock3958
    @dennisflock3958 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've bought quite a few pickups, wiring harnesses(looms) from Monty's. Never been disappointed. Time to upgrade my favorite Les Paul.

  • @bigtguitars7312
    @bigtguitars7312 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    My favourite ever guitarist with Peter honorè slightly behind. I loved hearing the connection with Lee’s Dad. When I first got into Peter Green in the early 90s before the splinter group I was told that he went mad and set himself on fire. Then he reappeared with the splinter group I really regret not going to a gig while the chance was there. But fast forward another 20 or so year get the TH-cam Andertons guitar bug and then look for Peter Green videos and found his comeback gig in at the Guildford Blues festival sponsored by Andertons with Clapton venturing out of his mansion and stood in a tent like us mortals to see Peter. And this was mid 90s at least a decade before TH-cam was a thing everything is connected my favourite two guitarists, favourite guitar shop and Favourite pickup builder or as I call Matt Hendrix with a soldering iron

  • @MarcJBeard
    @MarcJBeard 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Matt’s passion for creating authentic pickups is amazing ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️

  • @bigskymon
    @bigskymon 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I watch your Videos for a long Time. This was the Best.

  • @CraigFlowersMusic
    @CraigFlowersMusic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    As for whether it was on purpose or a matter of experimentation: It's a simple matter of Ohm's Law. A pickup is an inductor, and the frequency response of inductance is easy to calculate. Same goes for the caps on your pots. It was the Fifties, not the Fifteen-hundreds.

    • @SytRep
      @SytRep 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Faraday's Laws of inductance and Henry's work too, not Ohms Law. Then there's the whole RLC resonance calculations too. Picky I know, but not as simple as you have stated.

    • @CraigFlowersMusic
      @CraigFlowersMusic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@SytRep You're changing the subject. RLC calculations are part of basic AC theory; anyone who learns Ohm's Law subsequently learns how to calculate tank circuits, RLC resonance and such. Keyword: "basic." I didn't mean to imply I was giving credit to anyone, rather simply that Seth Lover had these equations available at the time.

    • @SytRep
      @SytRep 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Just pointing out that every inductor (coil) has resistance, capacitance and inductance, but not too complex as you say

    • @CraigFlowersMusic
      @CraigFlowersMusic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@SytRep Okay, except that my comment was meant to be an answer to a question Lee asked in the video. The question was whether they found those classic tones by calculation or experimentation. I answered by saying that AC theory was not only contemporaneous to the invention of those tones, indeed not only predated them but that the electric guitar is a FUNCTION of AC theory. Therefore it was likelier calculations than experimentation, but I'm nevertheless speculating. Does that help make sense of what I meant by "changing the subject?"

    • @donnareedfan
      @donnareedfan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Love the flutey tone. Ignore the tone deaf weasels, doctors of electrics, and home guitar wankers who have been there and done that. The last 10% is the hardest to achieve.

  • @brocluno01
    @brocluno01 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    As an early Fleetwood fan, I can hear the distinctive tone. But, as stated, it is touch sensitive ...
    However, that aside, I think they are really good sounding pick-ups on position 1 & 3. I hope you'all sell a bunch. And I'd like Andertons to install a set in an Epiphone and let Pete play it in a video ...
    If I were to buy another LP, it would get a set ASAP.

  • @adrianhjordan1981
    @adrianhjordan1981 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Have a set of Montys PAF's in one of my guitars, are easily the best sounding PAF style pickup I've ever had!!

  • @the-j-caster
    @the-j-caster 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    At 28:00 this function can be done with coil splits also, I did it with a Bill Lawrence L500XL. Saves you having to make modifications.

    • @jmabs5096
      @jmabs5096 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      How so? My epiphone les paul standard pro has dual humbuggers as Peter H. Would say😂 with both coil splits on each. Split one and put it in middle postuon?

  • @RaxFx
    @RaxFx 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    love his 5 way Tele looms - my second is on the way.

  • @brooksroman2918
    @brooksroman2918 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The note Lee hit at 28:51 specifically was just butter

  • @alexwoolridge94aw
    @alexwoolridge94aw 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I have a set of Seymour duncan antiquities in my gibson les paul traditional and I flipped the neck pups magnet and it sounds pretty killer in the middle position

    • @southboundguitar
      @southboundguitar 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I flipped mine once. I hated it. If I want to make strat sounds, I'll just pick up one of my strats. Not that I'm knocking it. It just wasn't for me. I don't even like splitting the coils. Sounds terrible, especially compared to a real strat tone.

    • @alexwoolridge94aw
      @alexwoolridge94aw 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @southboundguitar the out of phase isn't for everyone. I ended up sending the neck pup in to Seymour duncan recently for a rewind and asked if they could put a little more of a treble bite in it and they certainly did something right. Not near as bassy now and it's like a fat tele in the neck position. No out of phase this time

  • @Paul_Lenard_Ewing
    @Paul_Lenard_Ewing 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    There is significant and noticeable different. The cool thing is if you set your amp and OD pedals up to be killer fat on the bridge PU then switching to neck PU will not be muddy. With a standard PAF in both positions you have compromise both PU's potential to make them work together.

  • @alfiehenshall688
    @alfiehenshall688 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Did my neck magnet revesal myself and i get the out of phase sound . Sounds just like Peter's 👍🎸😎

  • @WoodesosGuitarMods
    @WoodesosGuitarMods 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I appreciate the irony of Lee having this conversation. 😂 Very interesting video.

  • @gbhgbh001
    @gbhgbh001 ปีที่แล้ว

    standing on the shoulders of Giants.. that's technical evolution... Bring it on... what great vid.

  • @JBNewman85
    @JBNewman85 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Already nailed the Peter Green sound by sticking a set of OX4 "Rollin' Man" PAFs in my R9. Les Pauls should come with the middle position out of phase by default, in my opinion 😜

    • @h20s56
      @h20s56 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It looks like Seymour Duncan has some Greenies as well for $360, Throbak has some for $600+

    • @glennevans5824
      @glennevans5824 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I agree …I have an 07 R9 I’m thinking of finding a great Peter green set…🤙🏻

    • @vayabroder729
      @vayabroder729 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Not sure if still available but the Manalishi pickups from Corsa Guitars were specifically tailored for the Green God sound.

    • @leonthompson8988
      @leonthompson8988 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The insanity of trying to replicate the sound of a PAF that was unpotted with wax with a pickup with wax potting which muffles/darkens the tone.

    • @greenmanalishi6963
      @greenmanalishi6963 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@leonthompson8988 which brand does that?

  • @primarycircle
    @primarycircle 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Should have added a Chapman ML-2 Classic into the mix. Green mod standard ;) Glad I still have mine.

  • @simonfreese3329
    @simonfreese3329 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    You need some Dave Simpson on that guitar!

  • @mrmanch204
    @mrmanch204 ปีที่แล้ว

    'Uranus' - The Brunning Sunflower Bues Band. (1969) From the album 'Trackside Blues". Interesting story.
    In this song Peter Green (sounds to me like he), starts with the middle then the neck then the bridge and back to the middle...
    Peter has a clean to breakup sound is singing and his performance is perfect and very open and clear. I found it helpful.

  • @samueljames580
    @samueljames580 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Alright but that lick from the Captain at 13:00 was s m o o t h, also, those pickups sound incredible! Aside from Pete’s GOAT though, I reckon the 50’s standard held the best. The custom buckers actually sounded more muddy to me - definitely better than the Epi but not as clear as the standard. But hey, just my 2 cents ay

  • @jakedavis4442
    @jakedavis4442 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Matt seriously needs to make a set of pickups from Peat's guitar. I'm pretty sure that's what sets Peat's guitar apart from other LPs, and I would totally buy a set. I have Monty's Greeny's in a Heritage and they are just incredible.

  • @Freakaboogie
    @Freakaboogie 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    those pick ups sound awesome

  • @joerouse6205
    @joerouse6205 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have bare knuckle PG blues on my Gibson les Paul , sound genuine to my ear .

  • @autodidacticprofessor869
    @autodidacticprofessor869 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    8:00 The Les Paul Standard 50’s has Burstbuckers which are NOT wax potted.

  • @michaelgarcia2050
    @michaelgarcia2050 ปีที่แล้ว

    I flipped the magnet in my neck position Guitar Madness 57 Alnico II humbucker, turned the pickup around, and the middle position now sounds just like that.

  • @pkflash2004
    @pkflash2004 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The Monty's sounded great. Real clarity and well balanced. Pete's Les Paul also sounded excellent. I've got Monty's PAFs in both my SG and Les Paul. If I play the SG close to the bridge It sounds just like the Oh Well guitar sound. The price of £450 for a set of Bethnal Greens may seem expensive but if it's the sound you are after then it saves you a lot of searching for 'that tone'.

    • @greenmanalishi6963
      @greenmanalishi6963 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Have u played OX4 rolling man pickups? They’re a fair bit cheaper but solid reviews..

    • @pkflash2004
      @pkflash2004 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@greenmanalishi6963 Hi. I've not tried the ox4's but seen them compared in videos and they also appear to be excellent. Another one to add to the mix is the Throbak (spelling?) pickups, they also sound great. Some good choices out there but I'm happy with my Monty's.

  • @fossilmatic
    @fossilmatic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The more I listen to the original recording of Albatross, I more I believe the rumour that it was recorded with the Strat that Green and Kirwan had in 68. Love his LP tone, including the out of phase sound, but that track sounds like a Strat neck pickup when I just use my ears. As for the stories around how that out of phase sound resulted… plenty of those out there. The only sure truth is what wonderful music the man made.

    • @publicartgroup2
      @publicartgroup2 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I tend to agree with u. I have the phase mod in my Les Paul, u can get some out of phase straty tones but it's a strat to my ear.

    • @alfiehenshall688
      @alfiehenshall688 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Peter said in a interview some years ago that he used a strat to record Albatross. 🎸

  • @cengizucar1
    @cengizucar1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow, your Gibson custom sounds amazing

    • @cengizucar1
      @cengizucar1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Especially the neck pickup

  • @400_billion_suns
    @400_billion_suns 2 ปีที่แล้ว +72

    If they *are*, the man to put them through their paces is Dave Simpson. Time for another appearance!

    • @jmabs5096
      @jmabs5096 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      This comment needs more traction, Dave has the "flavor" nobody else has on this cast! Love all them but Dave is something special

    • @5150show
      @5150show 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@jmabs5096 absolutely

    • @gerrygreen1
      @gerrygreen1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Definitely ❤️

    • @dodgedandle8311
      @dodgedandle8311 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      YES ILL SECOND THAT 🙏 Dave is the Man, Get him back on 👍🏻⭐️🌞❤️👍🏻

    • @guitarprism
      @guitarprism ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Dave Simpson for the Peter Green win.

  • @rien2080
    @rien2080 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really love those Gibson 50s standard in tobacco burst

  • @adalbertoschuckjr.1509
    @adalbertoschuckjr.1509 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    But the Monty' pickups are really AMAZING. Kudos....

  • @hotblackdesiato3451
    @hotblackdesiato3451 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Monty states the pickups in the 50s Standard are wax potted. The guitar uses Burstbucker 1 and 2 pickups, both of which aren't potted according to Gibson.

    • @jerrypinner1671
      @jerrypinner1671 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you buy them as replacements they're unpotted. When fitted at the factory , they're potted.

  • @JtotheP68
    @JtotheP68 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Strange video, they talk about the Peter Green set, but after that Lee sits and blues riffs on a few Les Paul guitars without really asking the person in the room who is very experienced in tone and what pickups sound like actually thinks.

  • @OgamiItto70
    @OgamiItto70 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm glad you've done this video because that Peter Green/Gary Moore pickup sound is something I'm aspiring to attain. The "like" that I bestowed, however, is mostly for my fellow commenters. Not that there's anything wrong with the video, but props to the commenters, know what I'm saying?

  • @jeffmakor7135
    @jeffmakor7135 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I've had a couple of sets made with the formvar wire by other winders and made to historically correct specs and i get THAT sound.
    However, as much as I respect Matt and his excellent work, the cost he's asking for these puppies is huge.
    Get the usual pafs he does, ensure the neck magnet is A2 and reversed, and work with your amp to suit that guitar.
    You'll get in the same ballpark and sound wonderful.

    • @macgrory
      @macgrory ปีที่แล้ว

      I did exactly that and it sounds bang on PG.

  • @PatatoKeftes
    @PatatoKeftes 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The only LP that had the same spank and openess as Pete's Lp was the one you featured in the video comparing the most expensive Lp vs the cheapest Lp in the store a long time ago.

  • @davepark1827
    @davepark1827 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    monty's PAF's are sweet, best pickups I'v ever heard beyond real PAF's.

  • @dubster82
    @dubster82 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Apparently Bare Knuckle PG Blues are the way to go. From what I've seen they're the most authentic and Gary Moore himself used them after selling the original guitar. That's really all the endorsement I need tbh

    • @notmaze
      @notmaze 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@enlightenedchristian3183 "Gary was playing his Gibson Guitar Company Collector's Choice #1 in 2010, the guitar that he had retro-fitted with our PG Blues humbuckers." That's on BK website, interesting fact, didn't know that either.

    • @enlightenedchristian3183
      @enlightenedchristian3183 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@notmaze Cheers for that mate.

    • @dubster82
      @dubster82 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You could of simply Googled that and got your answer in the same time it took to try and imply I was wrong Terry.

    • @jmabs5096
      @jmabs5096 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@dubster82 that would be too easy....

    • @peterverschage8347
      @peterverschage8347 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have the Bareknuckle PG blues pickups for years now and they are the bomb!I have some clips on my YT channel.Check them out and let me know what you think

  • @texmex697
    @texmex697 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    DiMarzio 36th anniversary set, flip the neck magnet, volume - bridge on 9 neck on 8. Close enough 👍

  • @bigdaddystinkeye
    @bigdaddystinkeye 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Long live Peter Green! Long story short, those pickups sound great. Hope I can find a set here in the States. Whoa! $600! I don’t think so.

    • @danduntz9112
      @danduntz9112 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Monty’s does ship to the US…when you’re ready to buy.

    • @bigdaddystinkeye
      @bigdaddystinkeye 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@danduntz9112 Bank refused my home refinance loan.

  • @ashleyjackson8538
    @ashleyjackson8538 ปีที่แล้ว

    I imagine it’s an amazing upgrade if you got a custom shop , you fancy a little change is needed

  • @EricW6800
    @EricW6800 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That's a Dave S setup for sure... he'd extract the most out of it.

  • @francescobarbaro7114
    @francescobarbaro7114 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This guy also makes Bill Steer's signature pickups... 😍

  • @geoboggs3897
    @geoboggs3897 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    If using a term like "most", then should probably compare to more than a single item. Bare Knuckle (also UK) and Jonesy Blues (US) offer hand-wound PG pups. Would be interesting to hear their takes on what makes a PG sound and to invlude them in the mix. Having said this I am a big fan of this show. Great musicians critically comparing instruments. It has aided my shopping. Thanks

  • @peterverschage8347
    @peterverschage8347 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It takes a lot of tweaking(the right pickup height) to get the best out of it.Both volume knobs needed to be used for interaction to get out of phase tones.At my 1992 Les Paul Classic Plus it works best with the bridge volume at 8 and at the neck pickup you have a range between 7 and 10.There's where all the magic is happening.If you watch Gary Moore playing the Green stuff,you see him also use the volume knobs a lot in the out of phase position,during solos.
    I use Bareknuckle PG blues pickups and a '50's wired Luxe '59 harness with bumblebees and Switchcraft toggle switch and input.I have now my ultimate Green guitar!
    I have seen a lot of videos about out of phase pickups and unfortunately almost all demonstrated only with all knobs on 10.So only one sound instead of all the possibilities when different volume stages are used.

  • @ricklodewell6012
    @ricklodewell6012 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    They also make Gibson Firebird pickups!!!

  • @harriheinsoo
    @harriheinsoo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    35:03 Lol! 😂

  • @stinkywizzleteats420
    @stinkywizzleteats420 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The best sounding PG style pickups that I’ve heard are wound by Sigil pickups out of Canada.

  • @madade27
    @madade27 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was wondering WHEN the volume controls would come into play (Lee).....very nice ...all of them...but The Befnul Gween set are top of the heap here....I wonder what a 57/08 PRS set would sound like given the same treatment?...P.S I love the Monty's pickups anyway...I have some.

  • @mitcharney1
    @mitcharney1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Whatever is right or wrong or different about a guitars' sound, it took a GREAT PLAYER to bring IT/THAT into prominence. No matter what the guitar, amp or effects
    are available a player is only as good as his/her ability is as a player. A Stratocaster didn't make Hendrix. A Les Paul didn't make Jimmy Page. It was their skill and the
    years of dedication and practice. When they played any other guitar they were still great. It's the player that makes all the "stuff" sound great. The "stuff doesn't make
    a player great.

  • @ShawnPGMaloy
    @ShawnPGMaloy 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I dont understand how Montys gets on your show and not Crimson guitars.
    I'm in the US and enjoy watching each companies you tube channels.

  • @I.M.Guitar-Nerd
    @I.M.Guitar-Nerd 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Unreal. Just yesterday I was looking for magnetically out of phase pickups to mod a LP to get that Peter Green sound.
    It must be serendipity.
    Yoinks! I just followed the link, not serendipity.

    • @Quentin687
      @Quentin687 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lol! We have an expensive hobby, mate

    • @terryenglish7132
      @terryenglish7132 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm assuming its the Hot inner wire w grounded shield ? Its pretty easy to take the cover off and flip the magnet, but there's a 10% screw up chance, so don't do it if its a collectable. But usually the magnet can be worried loose and will slide out sideways w out having to remove the coils etc.

  • @adalbertoschuckjr.1509
    @adalbertoschuckjr.1509 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why Epiphone Les Paul's pickups use to be so honky and mid focused? In mine I had to change them for 59 Seymour Duncan's and the change was dramatic. Cleaner and with more treble and bass than the usual we heard around there...And in the middle position, they are really VERY good...

  • @samiam5557
    @samiam5557 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yeah, THE PETER GREEN sound!!! 👍

  • @petarsimcic9173
    @petarsimcic9173 ปีที่แล้ว

    The best pickups I've ever tried were Wizz Pickups 🔝

  • @SagaMediaNet
    @SagaMediaNet 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have House of Tone VERDI Variants made by Matthew, these pickups are worth the money and waiting list (3 months)
    The Monties are made the same so if anything they show their worth the investment

  • @stanislavmigra
    @stanislavmigra 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Damn video, now I gas for Lee's alike Les Paul :D

  • @WarriorOfGhengisKhan
    @WarriorOfGhengisKhan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The person who rewound the neck pickup for Peter Green was called Ted Lee and he passed away at the end of last year. He was best known as "Ted the Sprayer" as he known for his paint work, most famously he sprayed The Beatles guitars black. Many people think it was 'Sam Lee' who did the repair but it was actually done by Ted.

    • @baabaabaa2293
      @baabaabaa2293 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Was he the bloke spraying Strats red for all the Hank fans?
      I rekn l read an interview with him in Guitarist mag, now lm not sure this is factual, but from memory he gave George his Gretsch back & the nitro hadn't dried/cured properly? Don't quote me ffs..
      Sad to hear he's gone.

    • @WarriorOfGhengisKhan
      @WarriorOfGhengisKhan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@baabaabaa2293 Yep. He did a fair few red strats, but there were others doing it too. I think I recall something about the paint chipping off the Gretsch - but that's nitro for ya.

  • @terryenglish7132
    @terryenglish7132 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I hooked up 4 wire HBs so I could reverse the phase of one. The effect is so much different than single coil p-ups where its thin and obvious. W HBs its just different sounding. I noticed some folks are flipping magnets. Just exchange the hot and ground on the Neck to achieve the same thing, assuming a modern HB. It changes the alone sound slightly, but few can hear it and few of those who can will care. W the Bridge it is noticeably less trebly, tho again not in your face so.

    • @MisterTee
      @MisterTee 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Magnetically out of phase and electronically out of phase sounds different

    • @jayjayripoff
      @jayjayripoff 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I don't think, at all, that his pickup was rewound or the magnet flipped.... I doubt anybody who had a Les Paul in the sixties, or any shop, or any tech, or even Gibson themselves would ever have thought 'pickup doesn't work, I'll dismantle the thing unwind it all and rewind it from scratch....'
      They would have taken the knackered pickup out, thrown it in the bin and fitted a new pickup.
      Maybe the new pickup was wound different from the factory, a mistake.... But Peter didn't do it and Selmer's didn't do it.
      It didn't sound like that when he got it, it was only after he took the pickup out and put it back in.... I think he wired it wrong, as in electronically wired out of whatever.
      It does the same thing.
      Gary Moore's tech muddied the waters on this, only because people jumped to conclusions about his findings, without any evidence.

    • @jayjayripoff
      @jayjayripoff 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MisterTee if they sound different,then his sound electrically out.

  • @wallyh24
    @wallyh24 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Those are some sweet sounding pickups...English made pickups would certainly justify the shipping cost of ordering from Anderton’s...🤔....then I could get a t shirt too 😏...I love when I can logically justify an impulsive frivolous purchase 🙃

  • @Garkimyer
    @Garkimyer 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Technically any distance between the peak of the sine waves means that the pickups are out of phase. They can be out of phase by different amounts, that are measured in degrees or radians. ‘Fully out of phase’ just means that the wave of the second pickup would be 180degrees out of phase from the first, or just a cosine wave. At least if I understood the material in my Physics 467 class, which was on different types of waves and their behaviour, focusing on electrical waves and spring forces. Fully explaining it needs imaginary numbers and Euler’s equation which would take forever

  • @kennethholbrecht6103
    @kennethholbrecht6103 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    To be 100% honest , i bought the bare knuckle pg blues pick ups . And there great

  • @christopherguzzi1316
    @christopherguzzi1316 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great nod to a guitar legend.

  • @radio5051
    @radio5051 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’d love to hear those pickups in Pete’s expensive Les Paul.

  • @AtariForeva
    @AtariForeva 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What about Vintage V100 Lemon drop with out of phase pickups, how does this compare to these pickups?

    • @adge74
      @adge74 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Check this out then.
      th-cam.com/video/-8QGyOFQYBs/w-d-xo.html

  • @jeffreymonroe153
    @jeffreymonroe153 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Burstbucker 1 & 2 pickups found in the new Standard like the one in this video are both non potted pickups aren't they?

    • @geofflee6295
      @geofflee6295 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes.

    • @jeffreymonroe153
      @jeffreymonroe153 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@geofflee6295 I thought so but Lee states that they are potted. No biggie. :)

  • @LPCustom3
    @LPCustom3 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Peter himself said he played a Strat on "Albatross". Has anyone here read the book about Sam Li called "The Guitar Man". Sam rewound Peter's pickup in his Les Paul..